These shows below I consider spioffs because there was always a link to it's parent show. Shows like Laverne and Shirley, The Jeffersons, A Different World and Mork and Mindy

1. Laverne &Shirley had the Fonzie character as a guest star about 4 times and L&S made guest appearances on Happy Days 2 times.

2.Archie or Edith from All in the Family never guest starred on the Jeffersons but they were mentioned in Jeffersons episodes and George and weezie returned to visit the Bunkers

3. The Huxtables visited Denise at College on a Different World about 5 times.

4. Fonzie also guest starred on Mork and Mindy and Mork returned to Happy Days as a guest star.

These shows I don't consider spinoffs

Good Times, Family Matters

Good Times is not a spinoff of Maude because Florida Evans never mentioned Maude on her show and Maude never appeared on Good Times. Plus on Maude, Florida was living in the state of New York and then on Good Times she is living in Chicago. Doesn't make much sense.

Family Matters is not a spinoff of Perfect Strangers to me because Harriet Winslow never mentions Larry or Balki on Family Matters or did Larry and Balki appeared on Family Matters. So there was no Link between the two shows at all

Who says there had to be a link? The character or idea originated from a parent. That's like saying child did not come from the womb of a mother. Most kids don't live with their parent after growing up. They get their own place. Does that mean they have to stop saying so and so is my mother. Empty Nest is a Golden Girls spinoff but the pilot was totally revamped. The character Oliver became Charley Dietz. The Weston house was used but the characters were redone for the spinoff. If Harriette played the same part on "Strangers" as on "Matters" she/idea/or whatever was spun from "Strangers" to "Matters" would make it a spinoff. The creation of these characters did not just pop up nowhere when it was time for them to get their own show did it. Do you check the E Hollywoodstory and how one crew member of Good Times said the the show was a Maude spinoff. Florida did not need to mention Maude nor Harriette with Larry and Balki. Also note that one episode of Fam Matters that Harriette went back to the chronicle to get another job. Plus she also mentions that she was an eleveator operator the Fam Matters ep at the chronicle which is true if you look back at Perfect Stranger. It's too bad that she did get the job at the chronicle and it's funny how She Larry and Balki did not cross paths. LOL.

Originally posted by ThomasE
Who says there had to be a link? The character or idea originated from a parent. That's like saying child did not come from the womb of a mother. Most kids don't live with their parent after growing up. They get their own place. Does that mean they have to stop saying so and so is my mother. Empty Nest is a Golden Girls spinoff but the pilot was totally revamped. The character Oliver became Charley Dietz. The Weston house was used but the characters were redone for the spinoff. If Harriette played the same part on "Strangers" as on "Matters" she/idea/or whatever was spun from "Strangers" to "Matters" would make it a spinoff. The creation of these characters did not just pop up nowhere when it was time for them to get their own show did it. Do you check the E Hollywoodstory and how one crew member of Good Times said the the show was a Maude spinoff. Florida did not need to mention Maude nor Harriette with Larry and Balki. Also note that one episode of Fam Matters that Harriette went back to the chronicle to get another job. Plus she also mentions that she was an eleveator operator the Fam Matters ep at the chronicle which is true if you look back at Perfect Stranger. It's too bad that she did get the job at the chronicle and it's funny how She Larry and Balki did not cross paths. LOL.


It took me years to find out that Family Matters was a spinoff from Perfect Strangers because there was no sign of the show coming from PS So Good Times and Family Matters never made any type of reference to the show the main character played on before the spinoff started.

SOLOMON don't you ever wonder why they don't even make mention of Larry and Balki. the flaw in PS was that Carl and Harriette told Larry and Balki that they were moving into Larry and Balki's building one episode of PS, then months later, she is on Fam Matters.

Originally posted by ThomasE
SOLOMON don't you ever wonder why they don't even make mention of Larry and Balki. the flaw in PS was that Carl and Harriette told Larry and Balki that they were moving into Larry and Balki's building one episode of PS, then months later, she is on Fam Matters.

I'm not sure i understand what you mean. The episode that Harriet and Carl said that was it near the end of the season before the following TV season whem FM started?

I'm not sure if I understood you too. One 1989 ep of PS had Carl and Harriette telling Larry and Balki that they were moving into the building. It was just a flaw that I saw with the crossover from PS to Fam Matters, that all.

Originally posted by ThomasE
I'm not sure if I understood you too. One 1989 ep of PS had Carl and Harriette telling Larry and Balki that they were moving into the building. It was just a flaw that I saw with the crossover from PS to Fam Matters, that all.

OKay i understand now-So i wonder what would be the why Maude was never mentioned on Good Times. Florida did mention she was a maid on Good Times but didn't say anyhing about Maude.

Originally posted by SOLOMON


OKay i understand now-So i wonder what would be the why Maude was never mentioned on Good Times. Florida did mention she was a maid on Good Times but didn't say anyhing about Maude.

Ok now that is good. At least she mentioned that. I never knew that she mentioned that she was a maid.

Originally posted by ThomasE


Ok now that is good. At least she mentioned that. I never knew that she mentioned that she was a maid.

She mentioned in the episode The Check Up when James was laid off and Florida wanted to work in someone's kitchen. Actually Good Times and Family Matters have a lot in common. Both Shows spinned off a husband and wife who were overshadowed by two goofballs-Urkel and J.J

I agree that Good Times is not a spinoff of Maude because although Florida had the same name, Henry became James and the Evans family suddenly lived in Chicago.

Originally posted by jon123
I agree that Good Times is not a spinoff of Maude because although Florida had the same name, Henry became James and the Evans family suddenly lived in Chicago.

My point exactly-Different names, different city-what a horrible transition.

As ThomasE said, someone from the crew of Good Times said it was a Maude spinoff. Are you saying you know better then this person who was working on the show? Yes, the name change was a mistake, and the city change was done on purpose for whatever reason (probably to set the tone of the series, ie the Evans family living in a particular area of a particular town.

Spinoffs do not have to have guest appearences - usually they're done to get the show off to a good start.

I'm pretty sure the creators of Family Matters knew it was a spinoff of Perfect Strangers . . . I'd trust them more. Why would they take the same character, and a person who had guest starred on the parent show as a character, and put them on a show that is unrelated to the parent show? If they did that, they would probably have to change the names of the characters.

There is no rule saying that a spinoff has to have a guest appearence by a person from the parent show or a reference to someone from the parent show, is there?

Originally posted by Sean Snow
As ThomasE said, someone from the crew of Good Times said it was a Maude spinoff. Are you saying you know better then this person who was working on the show? Yes, the name change was a mistake, and the city change was done on purpose for whatever reason (probably to set the tone of the series, ie the Evans family living in a particular area of a particular town.

Spinoffs do not have to have guest appearences - usually they're done to get the show off to a good start.

I'm pretty sure the creators of Family Matters knew it was a spinoff of Perfect Strangers . . . I'd trust them more. Why would they take the same character, and a person who had guest starred on the parent show as a character, and put them on a show that is unrelated to the parent show? If they did that, they would probably have to change the names of the characters.

There is no rule saying that a spinoff has to have a guest appearence by a person from the parent show or a reference to someone from the parent show, is there?



Well explain how someone will know Family matters is related to PS if they never watched PS? I knew that the jeffersons was related to All in the Family beore I watched the parent show. Also how would someone know Good Times is related to Maude if they never watched Maude?

Originally posted by SOLOMON


Well explain how someone will know Family matters is related to PS if they never watched PS? I knew that the jeffersons was related to All in the Family beore I watched the parent show. Also how would someone know Good Times is related to Maude if they never watched Maude?

They wouldn't. But I probably wouldn't be able to tell that The Ropers and TC are related even though they had the stars guest star. If I hadn't seen TC, I'd probably be like "Who are these people? Who is Jack? and Janet? and Chrissy?". While I'd figure out that they were the Ropers former tenants, I might not figure out they were from TC. So that theory doesn't exactly work, SOLOMON.

. . . and what if they saw the episode of L&S that DIDN'T have anybody from HD in it? They wouldn't be able to tell it was a spinoff of HD since they're watching episodes from later in the series.

SOLOMON, I think the people behind Good Times and Family Matters knew what they were doing. ;)

Originally posted by Sean Snow
As ThomasE said, someone from the crew of Good Times said it was a Maude spinoff. Are you saying you know better then this person who was working on the show? Yes, the name change was a mistake, and the city change was done on purpose for whatever reason (probably to set the tone of the series, ie the Evans family living in a particular area of a particular town.

Spinoffs do not have to have guest appearences - usually they're done to get the show off to a good start.

I'm pretty sure the creators of Family Matters knew it was a spinoff of Perfect Strangers . . . I'd trust them more. Why would they take the same character, and a person who had guest starred on the parent show as a character, and put them on a show that is unrelated to the parent show? If they did that, they would probably have to change the names of the characters.

There is no rule saying that a spinoff has to have a guest appearence by a person from the parent show or a reference to someone from the parent show, is there?

Thank You! I think some people are just set in their ways as to what a spinoff is. Ponit blank, Fam Matters and Good Times are spinoffs but the transitions were not smooth. I used to think that a spinoff is when a character is moved to their own show(which it is) but ideas are can be counted for as a spinoff too, ie the Golden Girls and Empty Nest. Empty Nest was a pilot but all the charcters changed when it came to making the first episode then crossovers were done between both shows. Good Times, the characters were the same except for the location and some other things:

Henry's name was changed to James
the setting was Chicago
James went from fireman to forman
James mellowed a little bit

The consistencies were:

On Maude, Florida has three children
She is still the same person


If you talk to these creators and producers of the shows you'll have a better understanding. SOLOMON as you know I don't necessarily agree with your opinion but respect it and it makes great conversation on this particular subject.

Originally posted by SOLOMON




Well explain how someone will know Family matters is related to PS if they never watched PS? I knew that the jeffersons was related to All in the Family beore I watched the parent show. Also how would someone know Good Times is related to Maude if they never watched Maude?

They wouln't necessarily need to know. It's not mandatory. At first I didn't know that FM was a PS spinoff untill I saw PS during TGIF in 1989 and saw Harriette on it and then saw Florida on Maude and got all curious when Maude called her Florida.

Good Times IS A SPINOFF OF MAUDE!!!

THE END!

Originally posted by briandamage
Good Times IS A SPINOFF OF MAUDE!!!

THE END! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :wave:

Originally posted by ThomasE
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :wave:

;)

Originally posted by briandamage
Good Times IS A SPINOFF OF MAUDE!!!

THE END!

Without a doubt!!

I'm not going to get into this much, because it's really pointless.

But a show should be able to stand on it's own and not rely on things from it's parent show. That's why it was not needed for Archie and Edith to guest star on The Jeffersons and Maude and why on Maude and The Jeffersons they rarely if ever mention Archie. Good Times is a spin-off of Maude. If they had changed Florida's name, then it wouldn't be.

Originally posted by boechsner


Without a doubt!!

I'm not going to get into this much, because it's really pointless.

But a show should be able to stand on it's own and not rely on things from it's parent show. That's why it was not needed for Archie and Edith to guest star on The Jeffersons and Maude and why on Maude and The Jeffersons they rarely if ever mention Archie. Good Times is a spin-off of Maude. If they had changed Florida's name, then it wouldn't be.

Techincally, it still would be. It would be just very very veeery fragmented. You know what I mean? Golden Girls/Empty Nest is a good example. The names were definitely changed. David Leisure is the only character that made over to the spinoff and his name was changed from Oliver to Charlie and the Weston house was used in the Pilot.

Originally posted by ThomasE


Techincally, it still would be. It would be just very very veeery fragmented. You know what I mean? Golden Girls/Empty Nest is a good example. The names were definitely changed. David Leisure is the only character that made over to the spinoff and his name was changed from Oliver to Charlie and the Weston house was used in the Pilot.

I found out that Norman Lear did not want to have Archie and Edith from All in the family guest star on the Jeffersons and Maude-does anyone know why?

I don't know this as a fact, but maybe he just wanted his shows to stand on their own merit. If a show is gonna fail, let it fail on its own. Which obviously, they did not.

Originally posted by briandamage
I don't know this as a fact, but maybe he just wanted his shows to stand on their own merit. If a show is gonna fail, let it fail on its own. Which obviously, they did not.

I just don't why George and louise returned to All In The Family as a guest but Archie and Edith could not guest star on the Jeffersons. I don't think Maude appeared on AITF again once her show started.

A mystery indeed!

Wasn't Buffy and Angel a spin off? What happened to them?

Buffy was originally a movie that was turned into a TV show.

Angel is a spinoff of Buffy.

They are still on TV.

With all the hot tempers flaring over "what's a spin-off/what isn't a spin-off", you folks are REALLY gonna hate this post:

What two things do "The Andy Griffith Show" and "Happy Days" have in common (besides Ron Howard, that is)?

For one, they both spawned spin-offs("The Andy Griffith Show"="Gomer Pyle, USMC"; "Happy Days"="Laverne & Shirley", "Mork and Mindy", and "Joanie Loves Chachi")...

But the other thing these two shows have in common is...THEY'RE BOTH SPIN-OFFS THEMSELVES!!!

Andy Taylor, his son Opie, and Deputy Barney Fife made their first appearance, not on the "Andy Griffith" show, but on "Make Room for Daddy/The Danny Thomas Show". Evidently, reaction to these characters was so strong that they got their own show in 1960.

And although many people think "Happy Days" was inspired by George Lucas's "American Graffiti" (also starring Ron Howard), the converse is true...the pilot for Happy Days, "Love and the Happy Day", was originally broadcast during the winter of 1972 on the comedy anthology series "Love, American Style", which in turn inspired Lucas's film, which in turn goosed the executives at ABC to do a sitcom along similar lines, someone remembered "Love and the Happy Day"...and the rest is history.

(And if that weren't confusing enough, "Love, American Style" also spawned yet ANOTHER spin-off, though this one was inspired by "All In The Family"...Hanna/Barbera's syndicated sitcom "Wait 'Til Your Father Gets Home"...which featured the voices of Tom Bosley, Mr. C. on "Happy Days", and Jack Burns, who played Deputy Warren on "The Andy Griffith Show"!!)

Oy, my head hurts...:crazy:

I use to love Wait Till your Father Gets Home.

Me, too, Brian...(or should that be "Mr. Damage"?)

You know, funny thing about "Wait Til Your Father Gets Home"...at the same time that this show was on the air in first-run syndication, there was a similar show (also based on "All In The Family") that ran on Saturday Mornings called "The Barkleys", about this bigoted dog busdriver and his family, and the strange thing is that the family dynamic was absolutely the same as "Wait Til Your Father Gets Home": gruff father, passive mother, hippie son, rebellious daughter, and enterprising younger son.

The series was produced by Depatie-Freeleng ("Pink Panther", "The Houndcats", "Bailey's Comets") and only ran one season on NBC, 1972-73.

Weird, huh?:eek:

On a sidenote, I thought I would mention that in a later season episode of "Maude," maybe around 1977 or so, when Maude is looking for a new maid, she mentions Florida and how great she was. She ends up getting another black maid in the form of Victoria Butterfield, btw.

Originally posted by Flash72
On a sidenote, I thought I would mention that in a later season episode of "Maude," maybe around 1977 or so, when Maude is looking for a new maid, she mentions Florida and how great she was. She ends up getting another black maid in the form of Victoria Butterfield, btw.


Maude mentioned Florida because she was her former maid. Florida never ever mentioned Maude on Good Times. But These to shows are not connected in no way. Read my post on the spinoff board _THe end of the Maude/Good Times discussion.

I have read your many posts on the subject, ad nauseam, and despite what your opinion may be, I still think of "Good Times" as a spinoff of "Maude." It might be what I deem a "semi" spinoff, but nonetheless (in my eyes), I see it as spinning off from its parent show. We can agree to disagree and leave it at that. We can respect one another's viewpoints, or we can both think each other so far from wrong we are almost right. Either way I think the chances of either of us converting one another to their side are negligible at best.

Originally posted by Flash72
I have read your many posts on the subject, ad nauseam, and despite what your opinion may be, I still think of "Good Times" as a spinoff of "Maude." It might be what I deem a "semi" spinoff, but nonetheless (in my eyes), I see it as spinning off from its parent show. We can agree to disagree and leave it at that. We can respect one another's viewpoints, or we can both think each other so far from wrong we are almost right. Either way I think the chances of either of us converting one another to their side are negligible at best.


Good Times first aired on February 1, 1974, and her last appearance on Maude was aired on February 5, 1974. Spinoffs don't air before the character leaves the parent show. End of discussion.

Originally posted by SOLOMON



Good Times first aired on February 1, 1974, and her last appearance on Maude was aired on February 5, 1974. Spinoffs don't air before the character leaves the parent show. End of discussion.

Nick was spun from Family Ties before they ever gave him a farewell episode(which they never did) and so was Jackee from 227. Geez Solomon, for a so called sitcom analyzer I thought you would know that.

Originally posted by Brian Damage


Nick was spun from Family Ties before they ever gave him a farewell episode(which they never did) and so was Jackee from 227. Geez Solomon, for a so called sitcom analyzer I thought you would know that.


I need the airdates for those spinoffs you listed. I doubt if they aired before the final appearance of Nick and Jackee

Originally posted by Brian Damage


Nick was spun from Family Ties before they ever gave him a farewell episode(which they never did) and so was Jackee from 227. Geez Solomon, for a so called sitcom analyzer I thought you would know that.

I seen no record of a spinoff with Jackee and the spinoff with Nick from Family Ties aired before Family Ties started the 86-87 season. It aired in August of 86 which was the only episode. So hs last appearance would have been at the end of the 85-86 season and then his spinoff started in August.

All of these sites list Good Times as a spinoff of Maude, and I got them from Sitcomsonline. What will it take to convince you Solomon?

http://www.tvtome.com/GoodTimes/

http://timstvshowcase.com/goodtime.html

http://www.valdefierro.com/times02.html

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00007KK5I/ref=nosim/happydaysonline3-20/002-6227501-4540841

Originally posted by Janice
All of these sites list Good Times as a spinoff of Maude, and I got them from Sitcomsonline. What will it take to convince you Solomon?

http://www.tvtome.com/GoodTimes/

http://timstvshowcase.com/goodtime.html

http://www.valdefierro.com/times02.html

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00007KK5I/ref=nosim/happydaysonline3-20/002-6227501-4540841


All of those sites are wrong because I have the 1975 article that has Alan Manings, Executive Producer, saying that Good Times is not a spinoff.

Originally posted by SOLOMON



All of those sites are wrong because I have the 1975 article that has Alan Manings, Executive Producer, saying that Good Times is not a spinoff.

What about the books and TV specials that list it as a spinoff? And why would one article be the only place where it is stated as not being a spinoff...surely if it wasn't a spinoff there wouldn't be so many sources stating that it is one.

Originally posted by Sean Snow


What about the books and TV specials that list it as a spinoff? And why would one article be the only place where it is stated as not being a spinoff...surely if it wasn't a spinoff there wouldn't be so many sources stating that it is one.


Sean the people who developed those sites saying that Good Times was a spinoff probably was not even born in 1974. So who are you going to believe, the executive producer or authors of a book? I would think the producer's statement since he was the one who created Good Times

Originally posted by Sean Snow
What about the books and TV specials that list it as a spinoff? And why would one article be the only place where it is stated as not being a spinoff...surely if it wasn't a spinoff there wouldn't be so many sources stating that it is one.
Exactly. Also, why would Columbia House or whoever is selling it on DVD, list it as a spinoff? It seems to me that they would make sure all the details were accurate.
Why don't you scan the article and post it Solomon?
He may have been misquoted in the article too. It happens all the time.
Too many sources list it as a spinoff for you to be hanging your hat on an article that's close to 30 years old.

Originally posted by SOLOMON

I would think the producer's statement since he was the one who created Good Times


He was an executive producer. He was not the show's creator.

Originally posted by Janice

Exactly. Also, why would Columbia House or whoever is selling it on DVD, list it as a spinoff? It seems to me that they would make sure all the details were accurate.
Why don't you scan the article and post it Solomon?
He may have been misquoted in the article too. It happens all the time.
Too many sources list it as a spinoff for you to be hanging your hat on an article that's close to 30 years old.

I'm not using a PC so i can't scan it but i have copies of it.

Originally posted by BJL



He was an executive producer. He was not the show's creator.


I meant to say he helped developed the show. He was the one who worked on the scripts from 71-74

Solomon, you're fighting a losing battle. Give it up.

Originally posted by *~PinkLady59~*
Solomon, you're fighting a losing battle. Give it up.


Yeah it looks like a losing battle which is why I'm shocked that so many people connect Good times to Maude. Maude-New York, Good Times-Chicago. LOL-I give up!

Originally posted by SOLOMON



Yeah it looks like a losing battle which is why I'm shocked that so many people connect Good times to Maude. Maude-New York, Good Times-Chicago. LOL-I give up!

Actually, it is easy to connect Good Times to Maude. Florida Evans was on Maude (she played Maude's housekeeper) and she got her own series. It's as simple as that.

Originally posted by BJL


Actually, it is easy to connect Good Times to Maude. Florida Evans was on Maude (she played Maude's housekeeper) and she got her own series. It's as simple as that.

When I mail the article to you this month, you can tell everyone else that i was right about the statement. I will make sure i highlight the statement by Allan Manings for you.

Originally posted by SOLOMON



Good Times first aired on February 1, 1974, and her last appearance on Maude was aired on February 5, 1974. Spinoffs don't air before the character leaves the parent show. End of discussion.

Nope. That's wrong!!!! The episode of Maude called Florida's Goodbye aired on February 5th 1974 and then three days later Good Times debuted on February 8th, 1974. I have tons of sources to back that up, including TV Guide and numerous other magazines and periodicals and newspaper listings as well.

Originally posted by boechsner


Nope. That's wrong!!!! The episode of Maude called Florida's Goodbye aired on February 5th 1974 and then three days later Good Times debuted on February 8th, 1974. I have tons of sources to back that up, including TV Guide and numerous other magazines and periodicals and newspaper listings as well.


Do you have the TV guide issue-Jan 25 to Feb 1-1974? And why is True Hollywood Story saying it startd on Feb 1?

Originally posted by boechsner


Nope. That's wrong!!!! The episode of Maude called Florida's Goodbye aired on February 5th 1974 and then three days later Good Times debuted on February 8th, 1974. I have tons of sources to back that up, including TV Guide and numerous other magazines and periodicals and newspaper listings as well.


Me and you will never know when it really started because we were not around in feb of 74. But my argument that Good Times is not a spinoff is still strong and I have the 1975 Ebony Magazine to back that up.

Originally posted by SOLOMON
But my argument that Good Times is not a spinoff is still strong and I have the 1975 Ebony Magazine to back that up.


That's just one article against many and many books, newspapers, magazines, tv guides, etc., not to mention all the web sites about the show. And as I mentioned previously, TV Guide can be wrong. For example, TV Land's web site strongly encourages people to check their site for scheduling information. This is because tv guides and magazines print them 2 to 4 weeks in advance. Maybe the premiere of Good Times was originally slated for February 1st and then moved to the 8th after all the TV Guide magazines were printed and distributed. It happens a lot. And that statement that Alan Manings said about it not really being a spinoff because they changed the Florida character does not wash. Florida was on Maude and later got her own series. If the producers came up with the idea for the show in 1971 as you say, then that would just be an announced title and they didn't cast anyone. Then they must have changed the plot and everything until they saw Florida on Maude and then they decided to put Florida on this project. If that issue of Ebony Magazine is the only one that says that Good Times was not a spinoff, then it is a losing battle you are fighting. And if you say that you are getting a TV Guide saying that, then read the above statement I made. Schedule changes can happen enexpectedly and at the last minute.

Originally posted by BJL



That's just one article against many and many books, newspapers, magazines, tv guides, etc., not to mention all the web sites about the show. And as I mentioned previously, TV Guide can be wrong. For example, TV Land's web site strongly encourages people to check their site for scheduling information. This is because tv guides and magazines print them 2 to 4 weeks in advance. Maybe the premiere of Good Times was originally slated for February 1st and then moved to the 8th after all the TV Guide magazines were printed and distributed. It happens a lot. And that statement that Alan Manings said about it not really being a spinoff because they changed the Florida character does not wash. Florida was on Maude and later got her own series. If the producers came up with the idea for the show in 1971 as you say, then that would just be an announced title and they didn't cast anyone. Then they must have changed the plot and everything until they saw Florida on Maude and then they decided to put Florida on this project. If that issue of Ebony Magazine is the only one that says that Good Times was not a spinoff, then it is a losing battle you are fighting. And if you say that you are getting a TV Guide saying that, then read the above statement I made. Schedule changes can happen enexpectedly and at the last minute.


I realized we can't get into a debate about when Good Times started because neither one of us was not born yet. But the fact that Good Times was in Chicago should make yu believe that it's not spinoff. Let me see if you can give me a STRONG reason why Good Times wasbased in Chicago if she was Maude's maid in NY?

Originally posted by SOLOMON



I realized we can't get into a debate about when Good Times started because neither one of us was not born yet. But the fact that Good Times was in Chicago should make yu believe that it's not spinoff. Let me see if you can give me a STRONG reason why Good Times wasbased in Chicago if she was Maude's maid in NY?

Location has nothing to do with it. Mork & Mindy was a spinoff of Happy Days and the character transitioning moved to Boulder, Colorado instead of staying at Milwaukee. Rhoda was a spinoff of The Mary Tyler Moore Show but instead of it being set in Minnesota (like the latter show), it was set in New York City. Lou Grant spun off from The Mary Tyler Moore Show and instead of it remaining in Minnesota it was relocated to Los Angeles. The Tortellis was a short-lived spinoff of Boston-based Cheers that was set in Las Vegas. Growing Pains was set in Long Island, NY but it's spinoff "Just the Ten of Us" was located in California. These are all spinoffs. Also, I would like to know what your definition of a spinoff is because I have a feeling you don't understand the concept of it. And I find it interesting that you say that we can't get into a debate about this because neither of us were alive at the time. I have a very good memory. I can remember things that happened years ago very well but even if I were alive back then, it would be very difficult for me or anybody for that matter to remember exactly what date Good Times premiered. That was about 29 years ago.

Originally posted by BJL


Location has nothing to do with it. Mork & Mindy was a spinoff of Happy Days and the character transitioning moved to Boulder, Colorado instead of staying at Milwaukee. Rhoda was a spinoff of The Mary Tyler Moore Show but instead of it being set in Minnesota (like the latter show), it was set in New York City. Lou Grant spun off from The Mary Tyler Moore Show and instead of it remaining in Minnesota it was relocated to Los Angeles. The Tortellis was a short-lived spinoff of Boston-based Cheers that was set in Las Vegas. Growing Pains was set in Long Island, NY but it's spinoff "Just the Ten of Us" was located in California. These are all spinoffs. Also, I would like to know what your definition of a spinoff is because I have a feeling you don't understand the concept of it. And I find it interesting that you say that we can't get into a debate about this because neither of us were alive at the time. I have a very good memory. I can remember things that happened years ago very well but even if I were alive back then, it would be very difficult for me or anybody for that matter to remember exactly what date Good Times premiered. That was about 29 years ago.


What i'm saying is, me or you were not born in 74 so how could we know exactly when Good Times started. And if you remember, it was said that Florida was no longer working for Maude because her husband got a good job. So if that was the case, why were the Evans about to get EVICTED in the first episode of Good Times-Getting Up The Rent?

Originally posted by SOLOMON



Florida was no longer working for Maude because her husband got a good job. So if that was the case, why were the Evans about to get EVICTED in the first episode of Good Times-Getting Up The Rent?

You can have a job and STILL be threatened with eviction. Just because you work doesn't mean you can always pay your rent.

Originally posted by Nanny Fine


You can have a job and STILL be threatened with eviction. Just because you work doesn't mean you can always pay your rent.

I thought i said i didn't want you responding to my topics. Anyway, they were moving up on Maude, and living in the projects on the 1st episode of Good Times. Plus they were not the same characters, On Maude, Florida was a working woman and she had a husband named Henry who was a fireman and lived in NY, On GoodTimes, Florida was a Housewife in Chicago married to James who worked at a carwash which means GOOD TIMES IS NOT A SPINOFF

Originally posted by SOLOMON


I thought i said i didn't want you responding to my topics.

Look you egocentric jack, I can respond to whatever thread I want on this entire site. You are NOT the Sitcoms Online police, you are not a moderator and you cannot tell me what posts I can and cannot respond to.

If I have something to say and want to respond I will.

Hmm

I think I'm gonna go watch Maude now. I *think* I'll start with the very first episode.

:wave:

Originally posted by Nanny Fine


Look you egocentric jack, I can respond to whatever thread I want on this entire site. You are NOT the Sitcoms Online police, you are not a moderator and you cannot tell me what posts I can and cannot respond to.

If I have something to say and want to respond I will.

Hmm

I think I'm gonna go watch Maude now. I *think* I'll start with the very first episode.

:wave:


Now you are just being cruel. You are so wrong

Originally posted by SOLOMON
Now you are just being cruel. You are so wrong

WTF? Cruel? It's the truth!

Originally posted by *~PinkLady59~*


WTF? Cruel? It's the truth!

I'm not sure I know what you mean

Originally posted by SOLOMON
I'm not sure I know what you mean

What did you think was cruel? Tell me and I'll tell you what I mean.

Originally posted by *~PinkLady59~*


What did you think was cruel? Tell me and I'll tell you what I mean.

The cruel part was her refusing to copy Maude episodes for me and then saying she is about to watch the show.

Originally posted by SOLOMON
The cruel part was her refusing to copy Maude episodes for me and then saying she is about to watch the show.

Oh, sorry about that. I thought you meant the part where she said you were an egocentric jack.

Originally posted by *~PinkLady59~*


Oh, sorry about that. I thought you meant the part where she said you were an egocentric jack.

But you said i have become a nice guy.

I edited this. Never mind.

SOLOMON, I have exceptions to the two rules you are using: You said that "GOOD TIMES" premiered before Florida left "MAUDE." You said that a spin-off couldn't be made if the character is still on the parent show. WRONG! "Fish" premiered in spring 1977, and Abe Vigoda still appeared on "Barney Miller" for the rest of that season. Also you said that GT was not a MDE spin-off because GT and was in Chicago and MDE was in Tuckahoe, NY, therefore it couldn't be a spin-off. WRONG! "Dallas" is Dallas, TX, and "Knots Landing" is Knots Landing, CA. "Dynasty" is in Denver, CO, and "The Colbys" is in California. SOLOMON, you are so egotistical! You're so vain! You probably think this post is about you! You're so vain! You probably think this post is about you, don't ya don't ya don't ya?! Now excuse me, I will go watch "Maude," the episode where John Wayne comes, which is a very HILARIOUS episode. I'm sure I'll fun laughing at that show, a comedic gem that shouldn't be missed...

Originally posted by JT
SOLOMON, I have exceptions to the two rules you are using: You said that "GOOD TIMES" premiered before Florida left "MAUDE." You said that a spin-off couldn't be made if the character is still on the parent show. WRONG! "Fish" premiered in spring 1977, and Abe Vigoda still appeared on "Barney Miller" for the rest of that season. Also you said that GT was not a MDE spin-off because GT and was in Chicago and MDE was in Tuckahoe, NY, therefore it couldn't be a spin-off. WRONG! "Dallas" is Dallas, TX, and "Knots Landing" is Knots Landing, CA. "Dynasty" is in Denver, CO, and "The Colbys" is in California. SOLOMON, you are so egotistical! You're so vain! You probably think this post is about you! You're so vain! You probably think this post is about you, don't ya don't ya don't ya?! Now excuse me, I will go watch "Maude," the episode where John Wayne comes, which is a very HILARIOUS episode. I'm sure I'll fun laughing at that show, a comedic gem that shouldn't be missed...



I wasn't interested in the Maude episode with John Wayne which is why I refused to tape it. Also those shows u mentioned about being in different Cities from The parent show is something I can't comment on because I never watched Dallas or Fish. I do know that Florida Evans had a Different husband on Maude than she did on Good Times, I do know that James Evans told his wife in one Good Times episode that his wife is not working in nobody's kitchen. But Henry Evans didn't Mind his wife being a maid. So there were two different cities and two different husbands THE END and Goodnight

Originally posted by JT
Now excuse me, I will go watch "Maude," the episode where John Wayne comes, which is a very HILARIOUS episode. I'm sure I'll fun laughing at that show, a comedic gem that shouldn't be missed...


Oh I have that one!

Last night I watched Maude Meets Florida, Grass Story and Maude's Dilemma.

I have to go to bed (LOOONG day tomorrow) or I'd be watching more tonight.

Bea Arthur rocks!

Originally posted by Nanny Fine



Oh I have that one!

Last night I watched Maude Meets Florida, Grass Story and Maude's Dilemma.

I have to go to bed (LOOONG day tomorrow) or I'd be watching more tonight.

Bea Arthur rocks!


Who cares.

Originally posted by SOLOMON



Who cares.

You. :wave:

Apparently, you care, considering you called her cruel for mentioning that she was going to watch it...

Originally posted by Nanny Fine


You. :wave:


IN your ear with Rosie Grier

Originally posted by SOLOMON



IN your ear with Rosie Grier

Oh OH OH OH!

To quote the sweathogs...

Up your nose with a rubber hose!

I swear I left this high school crap behind me when I graduated 16 years ago.

:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Nanny Fine


Oh OH OH OH!

To quote the sweathogs...

Up your nose with a rubber hose!

I swear I left this high school crap behind me when I graduated 16 years ago.

:rolleyes:



If you would be so kind to put those Maude Tapes where the sun don't shine.

Originally posted by SOLOMON



IN your ear with Rosie Grier

IN your mouth with a bottle of Oust!