View Full Version : Well It Looks Like She Married Leo....
Sitcomwriter 11-21-2002, 11:34 PM I'm a cross between happy,sad,surprised and angry right now.Grace and Leo got married andit actually surprised me that they went through with it and it looks like Leo is going to become a regular (ick) because I saw an ad online for the show (the show itself NOT the wedding episode) and it was Jack,Grace,Will,Karen AND Leo! I don't know.Where's Ted McGinley when we need him?
lovinbecker023 11-22-2002, 12:12 AM I don't know. I kink of like Leo; there is so much comic talent on the show, they really need a straight man. I think he does a good job in this role.
In reality, despite her claims otherwise, Will and Grace would drift apart. I expect on the show they won't.
Quite frankly, I grew tired of the tension in their (W&G's) relationship. They need a new focus.
And what was with the scene with Karen and Jack? Have they made out before, and I have just never noticed it?
Janice 11-22-2002, 12:36 AM I can't believe Grace married Leo. I think it's a bad idea. It changes the format of the show. Harry Conick Jr. is talented enough, but I liked the cast the way it was.
What now? Grace living with Leo of course, and how does Will fit in? I hope I'm wrong, but I see a shark getting ready to jump on the horizon.
I loved the retrospective show that followed. It was set to really good music too.
Sitcomwriter 11-22-2002, 12:43 AM According to TVtome.com Karen moves in with Will.
thatbirdmartha 11-22-2002, 01:14 AM I'll check out TV Tome but I remember reading something about Harry Connick only appearing on something like 12 or 14 episodes this year. Also, didn't they say something about Will getting a boyfriend or something? That would be an interesting storyline although Karen moving in would be better. She and Jack are the most hilarious ones on the show.
callmetootie 11-22-2002, 09:32 AM Ok....so are they going to change he show to "Will & Karen"???? Personally, I actually like Will and Karen together more than Karen and Jack. K&J together seem a bit too forced at times.
BUT....my brother had an interesting idea last night....
He felt that Leo was actually gay also!!! I thought that he may just be right. They can't have Grace married to him the whole way through....that'd ruin the series. And a man moving in with Will is just pushing it way too far. If Grace moves out, then it's not W&G anymore.
callmetootie 11-22-2002, 05:06 PM Originally posted by Sitcomwriter
According to TVtome.com Karen moves in with Will.
Looks like your right Sitcomwriter....here's next times episode:
"The Honeymoon's Over"
After a displaced Karen is booted from her Palace Hotel digs, a sympathetic Will agrees to let her move in with him -- at least until she turns his apartment into a federal disaster zone with her exorbitant lifestyle, forcing Will to try and unload her onto Grace's shoulders. Meanwhile, Jack loses style points when he poses incognito out of fear that the "Gay Mafia" has it out for him.
thatbirdmartha 11-22-2002, 05:56 PM Here's a thought -- remember last night when they said that Leo worked as a doctor in Africa for awhile -- called ______ w/o Doors. Maybe he'll go back over there and Grace will decide to move back in with Will -- after all, she has her business.
Kind of like they how they handled Shirley's marriage on Laverne & Shirley. Her husband was in the military and was overseas so it made sense for her to stay w/ Laverne (supposedly). I think the show went downhill from there though.
fozzie 11-22-2002, 07:20 PM Does anyone know the name of the song that played during the closing of the W&G wedding show. It's a 60s song and we are racking our brains trying to figure it out. Thanks for your help
Montana Ponine 11-23-2002, 12:07 AM I don't know what I think about Grace marrying Leo, but it's definitely going to change some things around...dunno if I'll like it yet. But...erm...I still don't get it...Leo's name is Marvin?!?
callmetootie 11-23-2002, 10:30 AM Leo's not really a jewish name, but Marvin I think is the #1 name of jewish males.
Will and Grace Fanatic 11-23-2002, 02:31 PM I was surprised on Thursday to find myself rooting for Grace and Leo to get married. I love the Leo character. And someone mentied Karen and Will living together that will be absolutley hilarious. I just can't wait to see those episodes.
callmetootie 11-23-2002, 02:45 PM Remember in the episode "A Chorus Lie", when Karen had to pretend that Will was her boyfriend, and starting humping the wall to make noise!!!! My all-time favorite episode of the series!
I'm hoping that Karen moves in with Will, Grace gets a spin-off with Leo, and Liza Minelli moves in with Jack! That'd be great!
Here's what the spin-off with Grace and Leo should be:
"Funny Honey"
Plot: Grace and Leo decide to move out of the city, to a mansion in Vermont, where they own a bed-and-breakfast called "Bagels and Lox". They hire a group of Nutty maids: the 75-year old Mary, and 60-year old Freida...and a zany gay butler, Sherrie. The token black guy of the series, Otis comes back for frequent visits to say a few 5th rate comedy one-liners. And to complete the zany group of misfits is the cute dog, Ronnie. You're invited for a bite to eat every week, now on NBC: Tuesdays at 8:30 after Just Shoot Me!
Cast:
Debra Messing....Grace Alder
Harry Connick JR....Leo
Maggie Smith.....Mary Littleflowers, maid
Betty White....Frieda Crandall, maid
Robin Williams.....Sherrie Tomata, butler
James Brown.....Otis Knight
and
Bob....Ronnie, dog
Janice 11-23-2002, 03:02 PM Originally posted by callmetootie
Leo's not really a jewish name, but Marvin I think is the #1 name of jewish males.
Yes, I'd say that Marvin is #1 male Jewish name. Leo is usually dervived from Leonard which is another popular Jewish name. Leo can also be short for Leonardo which is Italian as in Leonardo DiCaprio.
I don't know for certain, but I think Harry Conick Jr. is Jewish. On IMDB, it lists both his parents as lawyers and his father's name as Harold. Whatever he is, he's very talented. :)
Jordan 11-23-2002, 04:41 PM I think W&G will not be affected by the marriage -- the creators will find a way that it will work and I think it'll be very intriguing to see what comes next. I was happy Grace finally got married! :happyface :happyface :happyface
callmetootie 11-23-2002, 08:41 PM Originally posted by JanLady617
Yes, I'd say that Marvin is #1 male Jewish name. Leo is usually dervived from Leonard which is another popular Jewish name. Leo can also be short for Leonardo which is Italian as in Leonardo DiCaprio.
I don't know for certain, but I think Harry Conick Jr. is Jewish. On IMDB, it lists both his parents as lawyers and his father's name as Harold. Whatever he is, he's very talented. :)
I doubt he's jewish...he has released about 4 or 5 Christmas albums in his career...
Janice 11-24-2002, 04:07 AM Originally posted by callmetootie
I doubt he's jewish...he has released about 4 or 5 Christmas albums in his career...
He's half Jewish, on his mother's side.
http://www.connick.com/hcjr/pages/articles/publications/vogue0498.shtml
Also, many Jewish singers compose Christmas albums including Eddie Fisher, Barbara Streisand, Neil Sedaka, Barry Manilow, and Neil Diamond to name a few.
flagler 11-24-2002, 11:10 PM I would have to say I am not surprised they got married.
It would be silly to have them just date forever, just like Sex and the City, and just like SATC Charlotte got married but it didn't last and I doubt this will either.
How many times has Ross been divorced in Friends, it actually has become a recurring joke instead of a reason for the shows demise.
One thing I hope is that Will has a boyfriend this season, I swear he has kissed Grace more times than any man.
Frasier W. Crane 11-24-2002, 11:47 PM Hey guys-
Leo won't be around for long. He only signed on to do15 eps to be in and its almost 12 already....so somethings gonna happen...divorce or death i'm guess.
Janice 11-24-2002, 11:58 PM Originally posted by Frasier W. Crane
Hey guys-
Leo won't be around for long. He only signed on to do15 eps to be in and its almost 12 already....so somethings gonna happen...divorce or death i'm guess.
It will be interesting to see how they write him off the show. I don't think he'll be killed off. That seems too serious for a sitcom. I'll be surprised if Grace becomes a divorcee, but I don't see any other way out.
flagler 11-25-2002, 12:13 AM Remember actors have been recurring before and then signed on for good later.
However if Harry does leave, they could kill the character off, they did it in Seinfeld.
Janice 11-25-2002, 12:20 AM Originally posted by flagler
Remember actors have been recurring before and then signed on for good later.
However if Harry does leave, they could kill the character off, they did it in Seinfeld.
Good points. I didn't look at it that way. This storyline has to be good for ratings. I know I won't miss any upcoming episodes, and I was only a casual viewer before.
AnaheimPMWitch 11-25-2002, 01:55 AM :lol: I know it would never happen but I'd love to see Will say hes straight and really be Straight and him and Grace hook up
but Yeah and I DIDNT know that Harry only signed up for 15 eps it will be interesting to see how they write him off
Will and Grace Fanatic 11-25-2002, 03:20 PM Originally posted by CaitlinMoore2002
:lol: I know it would never happen but I'd love to see Will say hes straight and really be Straight and him and Grace hook up
That would be just wrong. People don't turn straight. Do you know how many viewers they would lose?
AnaheimPMWitch 11-25-2002, 10:21 PM :lol: thats why I said it would Never Happen I just want him to be cause DANGGGGGGG he's hot and him and Grace would have been cute I THINK that thought stems from the fact that when I first started watching the show It was halfway through the season (and I had already been watching Dharma and Greg) so I THOUGHT that he and Grace were married or something I thought it was another Dharma and Greg type show Let me tell you I was VERY confused when he started talking about liking MEN until I FIGURED it out anywho thats where the whole thought stems from
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