..., thanks to MeTV

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/the-wizard-of-oz-air-broadcast-television-metv-october-1236496052/

The 1939 musical fantasy classic film, which has experienced a resurgence thanks to Wicked films, will air multiple times in primetime and throughout October as part of MeTV’s Halloween BOO-Nanza, a monthlong celebration of classic horror, sci-fi and family-friendly favorite films. The Wizard of Oz was once a staple of broadcast TV (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wizard_of_Oz_on_television), airing annually from 1956, when TV was only in black and white, through 1998. Its last broadcast on free TV was on May 8, 1998 (https://www.tvtango.com/listings?filters%5Bdate%5D%5Bmonth%5D=5&filters%5Bdate%5D%5Bday%5D=8&filters%5Bdate%5D%5Byear%5D=1998&commit.x=11&commit.y=9) on CBS (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJC3JqSdaA8). Afterwards, Ted Turner’s Turner Networks snapped up the rights (https://www.facebook.com/TheJudyRoom/posts/may-8-1998-the-end-of-an-era-the-last-network-broadcast-of-the-wizard-of-oz-on-c/980207980329367/) to show The Wizard of Oz exclusively on cable. “The Wizard of Oz is more than a movie, it is a shared American experience that was defined by the annual tradition of gathering around the television set,” said Neal Sabin, vice chairman of Weigel Broadcasting, owner of MeTV. “We are thrilled to bring the film back to broadcast television this October on MeTV. It will be presented without any edits and will be surrounded by surprises we will announce later, making the film the centerpiece of our expanded annual MeTV Halloween BOO-Nanza programming event, which has become hugely popular with our audience. We know they are going to love this incredible addition to the schedule.”

Yes but it wasnt analogue so to me its trash!!

I have the eariiest release of this movie I have ever found on VHS and its goregous!

Its a 1980 release :)

Yes but it wasnt analogue so to me its trash!!

I have the eariiest release of this movie I have ever found on VHS and its goregous!

Its a 1980 release :)

A 240-line VHS dupe of The Wizard of Oz with 46 years of tape degradation vs. a presentation of The Wizard of Oz sourced from an 8K scan of the film’s original 35mm elements in HD or 4K. Tough call.

I’ll never understand your “analog is always better because reasons” position, but different strokes.

I just wish he'd explain sometime, why every mention of a song, movie, or TV show prompts a reply from him about an analog copy.

but different strokes.

“Whatchu’ talking about Willis” sounds better in analog.

“Whatchu’ talking about Willis” sounds better in analog.

I've always thought so. If Arnold asked, "1 2 1 2 1 2 1 1 2 2 2 1, 1 2 2 1 2 1?" I wouldn't get it.

Im sorry guys...... I just am very sad............

Nobody wants you to be sad; I just genuinely can’t figure out what this nonstop anti-digital crusade is actually based on. Older isn’t inherently better, especially with video technology. Consumer videotape was flawed and cumbersome to begin with, and VHS wasn’t even the best of that lot — Betamax had it beat on picture quality.

I hadnt ever seen Beta Dream,you say it looked even nicer??

Beta had better video quality than VHS, but being the better videocassette format is like being the world’s tallest midget.

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I hear ya buddy!

I have a Videodisc (CED) and I would love getting a mono player!!

Have you ever seen a movie on those?? (Hopefully the record was clean)

I cant believe how much they fit on there at such fast speeds!!

I mean you know how fast a 78rpm record is right? -- Thats not even 1/2 of whats on 1 side of a CED record.. Arent they the same size???

My uncle had a CED player, but I only vaguely remember it because I was super little and it was 40+ years ago. He brought it to our house once. All I remember is that it skipped a lot and he had to flip it halfway through the movie he showed us — and I don’t remember what the movie was.

From what I’ve read over the years, it was a garbage format.

But seriously, why the aversion to digital?

I dunno buddy,it just doesnt look as good to me as natural colours,etc........

I dont wanna make ya mad again buddy,It just has always been important to me....

But seriously, why the aversion to digital?

There is an old expression "Can't see the forest for the trees" that might explain Dude's dilemma regarding analog vs digital. There is no denying that analog audio (reel tapes) and video (24 frame film) recordings are superior than its digital counterpart. And Dude probably base his argument on that fact.

But I think what he don't realize or see is the shortcomings of analog formats (such as cassette or VHS) and what is delivered via those formats are shell of the original content that have been chopped down dynamically (limited audio frequency) and visually (low video resolution). So unless he see or acknowledge those format shortcomings, we are only going to see trees in the forest :)

I dunno buddy,it just doesnt look as good to me as natural colours,etc........

The “natural colors” on a CRT aren’t actually natural; they’re an artifact of the scan line technology itself. What you’re perceiving as warmth is technically distortion. A properly calibrated modern display is actually a more accurate representation of the original image than a CRT ever was. You’ve grown accustomed to the imperfection and mistaken it for authenticity.

There is an old expression "Can't see the forest for the trees" that might explain Dude's dilemma regarding analog vs digital. There is no denying that analog audio (reel tapes) and video (24 frame film) recordings are superior than its digital counterpart. And Dude probably base his argument on that fact.

But I think what he don't realize or see is the shortcomings of analog formats (such as cassette or VHS) and what is delivered via those formats are shell of the original content that have been chopped down dynamically (limited audio frequency) and visually (low video resolution). So unless he see or acknowledge those format shortcomings, we are only going to see trees in the forest :)

I get that. I like the warmth of a good pressing of a vinyl record, and there’s something charming about movie theaters that still use 35 and 16mm film as opposed to digital formats, but as you said, the formats Dude champions (cassettes, 8-tracks and VHS) were flawed out of the gate; they were created as formats of convenience, not fidelity. I can’t get into anyone’s head, but it seems to me like our friend prefers vintage simply for the sake of preferring vintage. It’s nothing but a contrarian, ultracrepidarian take.

What people like Dude don’t understand is that this isn’t a zero-sum game. Home formats like HD, 4K and high-res, lossless digital audio — when mastered correctly — get us to a much closer representation of what’s on those film negatives and master tapes than analog formats can (including, in my opinion, vinyl).

I just wish he'd explain sometime, why every mention of a song, movie, or TV show prompts a reply from him about an analog copy.

Probably because nobodys listening or out to get you if you go analog.

I get that. I like the warmth of a good pressing of a vinyl record, and there’s something charming about movie theaters that still use 35 and 16mm film as opposed to digital formats, but as you said, the formats Dude champions (cassettes, 8-tracks and VHS) were flawed out of the gate; they were created as formats of convenience, not fidelity. I can’t get into anyone’s head, but it seems to me like our friend prefers vintage simply for the sake of preferring vintage. It’s nothing but a contrarian, ultracrepidarian take.

What people like Dude don’t understand is that this isn’t a zero-sum game. Home formats like HD, 4K and high-res, lossless digital audio — when mastered correctly — get us to a much closer representation of what’s on those film negatives and master tapes than analog formats can (including, in my opinion, vinyl).

Definitely agree and very well said, especially the part where you said those analog formats (cassettes, 8-tracks and VHS) were created as matter of convenience, not fidelity. And may I add disposability to that mix also since every time those formats are played, the audio and video quality will degrade a bit due to wear and tear (friction between the tape and the machine's tape head). So age will also becomes a liability for those formats too.

Same thing can also be said about the vinyl record. The friction between the needle and the record groves will degrade its sound quality over time, thus delicate higher frequency harmonics will be the first victim of friction to disappear :)