iluvfonzie
11-05-2002, 07:14 AM
I don't know if the writers of that episode were smoking grass when they wrote it, but I wouldn't doubt it. The Fonz allowing someone to disrespect him and then hit him? Pulleeze!!! I usually love the eps about Fonzie, but to see him degraded in this manner was just too much. I quickly rewound my tape to where I could record over that ep tonight. :mad: :mad:
DarleneIllyria
11-05-2002, 04:14 PM
Are we talking about the episode where Richie returns? It would've looked crappy for Fonz to hit one of his closest friends. Richie had been drinking a few beers, so I guess Fonz knew that it was the beers action and not Richie's action. Just my guess.
Moonlight Lady
11-05-2002, 04:32 PM
I think Iluvfonzie's talking about the episode where Tom Hanks' character comes back for revenge because Fonzie pushed him off a swing or whatever when they were kids.
Fonzie made a promise to Ashley, Heather and I think Howard, that he would not hit the guy. We all know The Fonz does NOT break a promise. That is why he took the hit. I thought Fonzie was gonna hit em when he got back up. Instead he used Psychology on Tom Hanks' character after grabbing his collar.
iluvfonzie
11-05-2002, 05:47 PM
I know he doesn't break his word, but he still could've picked the guy up by his shirt collar and just toss him out of Arnold's. That wouldn't amount to hitting. I just don't get why the writers wussified him in that episode.
DarleneIllyria
11-05-2002, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by Lil Kelso
I think Iluvfonzie's talking about the episode where Tom Hanks' character comes back for revenge because Fonzie pushed him off a swing or whatever when they were kids.
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Oh okay, thanks for clearing that one up for me
¤I Love Clay Aiken¤
11-05-2002, 11:09 PM
Ive never seen the episode, but remember the episode where Fonzie keeps getting into fights and makes bird cages?? He didnt hit then- but he did toughen up in the end. Thats what he shouldve done!
Cactus Jack
11-05-2002, 11:10 PM
I agree! Hey, why arent oyu on AIM yet? im on!!!:wave:
CollegeGirl
11-09-2002, 11:27 AM
I felt the same way when Fonz let Tom Hank's character take a punch at him. I was like, "Oh my gosh! This SO can't be happening!" You could tell the other characters were just as scared that Fonz's character had been weakened. But, I think the writers allowed him to be hit because it brought it a new era. Everyone knows Fonz as the motorcycle riding roughneck who will fight anyone who even looks at him wrong. Though this worked for him, everyone was worried that Fonz's pupils would follow his example and just fight out their problems. Fonz also noticed that this guy was so crazy because he had insulted him in the 3rd grade and he wouldn't let him live it down. Fonz was trying to model that we need to stand up and admit to our faults, even when it is something so trivial. By standing up and letting the guy take his hit, Fonz was being brave and proving his manhood.
I especially liked the reference to the movie, "Shane" about a cowboy who fought in the same manner Fonzie did in his youth, but decided to hang up his guns. Fonzie had decided to hang up his metaphorical guns, also to be a positive example to teens. By comparing Fonzie to Shane in this light was signifying his inner courage. Shane was no coward!
The ending clip of the trophy was so symbolic! Fonzie, like the men in the trophy, had solved his problems through words. I also think that this episode showed how domisticated Fonzie had become-- which was so bizarre. He was in the phase of becomming a Mr. Cunningham.
And the final conversation between Hank's character and Fonzie is a message to the public. Hanks had been holding a grudge all those years, and yet he was a psychiatrist! He should have known better! Fonzie was the one who shed the light, "This may come as a surprise to you, but I haven't given you any thought at all!" (When Hanks asked Fonzie if he had been thinking he was a coward all those years)
iluvfonzie
11-09-2002, 11:34 AM
I appreciate the gist of what you're saying and I do agree. But I still think they could'vehandled it better than by showing that guy hitting Fonzie thru a window. I would've had Fonzie apologize, the guy explode at him in anger and then Fonzie could just stare him down and scare him off. That ws how Fonzie usually accomplished things, not by fighting, but by intimidation.
CollegeGirl
11-09-2002, 12:21 PM
True. No matter how many resons I can come up to validate why the writers may have designed this episode in this manner, I still don't like how he let Hanks' character kick him through the window. The expression on his face as he was being hurled backwards was horrible to watch.
iluvfonzie
11-09-2002, 12:24 PM
I jsut assume that the writers of that particular epsidoe don't understand the true nature of Fonzie. It's not that he goes around beating people up for kicks, he just doesn't allow people to disrespect him or the those he's close to.
CollegeGirl
11-09-2002, 12:52 PM
Iluvfonzie, you make a very strong argument. Your last post was right on the money. Fonzie was definitely no man to be disrespected. He was likewise respectful toward others. I wish we could ask the writers why they designed this episode like this.