Great quality, too.

I hadn't seen these since they originally aired.

The scam artists who claimed to pull "tumors" out of sick people when in fact it was just concealed chicken parts.

The first episode of "The Investigators" with lost heir investigator Gene Kiley.

While I recalled the first segment from childhood, the second one was completely forgotten after nearly 40 years.

This YT channel has another clip featuring the Chevy Chase Bandit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6iFHWeusHI

That account has a real "flipping through cable channels in 1997" vibe to it.

Anyone have in their Unsolved Mysteries collection the segments of Nyleen Marshall,Bill Rundle,Kari Lynn Nixon,Kristi Krebs,Dale Kerstetter,Patricia Carlton, Trenchcoat Robbers,segments(or any other I didn't mention) with the Lifetime update at the end(blue background,update typed out,creepy theme music playing)?

Or record Lifetime reruns from 1997-2006?

I think I have the Dale Kerstetter classic segment on a DVD that was copied from VHS. It has the blue print ending. I'm checking now. but not sure how I can show it to you. Maybe record it from my cell phone? then upload cell video to my YT?

update = sorry my picture is so huge! Its not that size on my computer, but whenever I load a pic to this site it expands greatly.

Anyone have in their Unsolved Mysteries collection the segments of Nyleen Marshall,Bill Rundle,Kari Lynn Nixon,Kristi Krebs,Dale Kerstetter,Patricia Carlton, Trenchcoat Robbers,segments(or any other I didn't mention) with the Lifetime update at the end(blue background,update typed out,creepy theme music playing)?

Or record Lifetime reruns from 1997-2006?

Great quality, too.

I hadn't seen these since they originally aired.

The scam artists who claimed to pull "tumors" out of sick people when in fact it was just concealed chicken parts.

The first episode of "The Investigators" with lost heir investigator Gene Kiley.

While I recalled the first segment from childhood, the second one was completely forgotten after nearly 40 years.

This YT channel has another clip featuring the Chevy Chase Bandit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6iFHWeusHI


-- Thanks for the YT link! Here is one I found that has a few old rare gems (segments):
https://www.youtube.com/@photogirl1653

Thank you so much for that link! There are a few posted which I have no memory of ever seeing. It's so wonderful to view UM segments that are new to me since it feels like I've watched each one thousands of times.

I think I have the Dale Kerstetter classic segment on a DVD that was copied from VHS. It has the blue print ending. I'm checking now. but not sure how I can show it to you. Maybe record it from my cell phone? then upload cell video to my YT?

update = sorry my picture is so huge! Its not that size on my computer, but whenever I load a pic to this site it expands greatly.

Exactly what I was looking for! Are you familiar with converting DVD to MP4 file so you can send it to me or upload on online platform?

email me at girlhere11@gmail.com so further discuss this

I have managed to collect every lost or missing segment that is not a special alert except for David Shipenburg from 8/27/2001. I also have over 250 complete original episodes, some better quality than others. I am really looking to add episodes, especially Lifetime repeats after 2002, and am more than willing to trade what I have collected.

Also really trying to find these Final Appeals episodes
Steve Shores 10/2/1992
Tony Miller 10/9/1992
Thomas Drake 10/23/1992

Any help would be awesome.

Thanks!!

There used to be a channel called "Miss Teri" that had a ton of rare segments, including many of the Special Alerts (there was always something deeply unsettling about those).

I miss that channel, but for the most part I understand why the segments were removed from the FilmRise episodes (long-captured fugitives, segments that were later exposed as frauds e.g. Sandra Anderson and her cadaver dog, dated cyber crimes, etc.).

There used to be a channel called "Miss Teri" that had a ton of rare segments, including many of the Special Alerts (there was always something deeply unsettling about those).

I miss that channel, but for the most part I understand why the segments were removed from the FilmRise episodes (long-captured fugitives, segments that were later exposed as frauds e.g. Sandra Anderson and her cadaver dog, dated cyber crimes, etc.).

Her channel was one of the better ones over the years. At some point, someone on here posted a link to her FB page where she continued to post segments after being booted from YT. Does anyone have that link? I bookmarked it at the time, but it has disappeared.

Her channel was one of the better ones over the years. At some point, someone on here posted a link to her FB page where she continued to post segments after being booted from YT. Does anyone have that link? I bookmarked it at the time, but it has disappeared.

I remember Miss~Teri too because my handle was "Unsolved Mr. E" and her's was Miss Terry (as in Mystery). Yea one week I went to watch her UM videos again and she was gone. So YT or Unsolved took her down. Yet at that same time when she was still up on YT she/he had all of the same UM videos on Facebook or TikTok, one of those. But, under a different name which was very smart.

There used to be a channel called "Miss Teri" that had a ton of rare segments, including many of the Special Alerts (there was always something deeply unsettling about those).

I miss that channel, but for the most part I understand why the segments were removed from the FilmRise episodes (long-captured fugitives, segments that were later exposed as frauds e.g. Sandra Anderson and her cadaver dog, dated cyber crimes, etc.).

I actually find the removal of the segments both hard to understand and impossible to justify.

The issue is no consistent criteria were used for the most part. Long captured fugitives? A significant portion of what was left in falls in that category. There were also plenty of frauds left in (and I don't see why a fraud shouldn't be left in really).

Worse, many unsolved mysteries were left out which as a result have been forgotten and gotten less attention. And whatever explanations were given for the removal always seemed contrived or nonsensical.

The original episodes should have been released in their entirety with inserted updates and no edits, rather than hacked up mess that we ended up with.

The original episodes should have been released in their entirety with inserted updates and no edits, rather than hacked up mess that we ended up with.

This would have been ideal.

Considering the people responsible have consistently and infuriatingly opted to to the wrong thing whenever any part of UM is released, the Filmrise material is as best as we could have hoped for, given how much ineptitude we've had to tolerate.

I think I have the Dale Kerstetter classic segment on a DVD that was copied from VHS. It has the blue print ending. I'm checking now. but not sure how I can show it to you. Maybe record it from my cell phone? then upload cell video to my YT?

update = sorry my picture is so huge! Its not that size on my computer, but whenever I load a pic to this site it expands greatly.

Exactly what I was looking for! Are you familiar with converting DVD to MP4 file so you can send it to me or upload on online platform?

email me at girlhere11@gmail.com so further discuss this
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I actually find the removal of the segments both hard to understand and impossible to justify.

The issue is no consistent criteria were used for the most part. Long captured fugitives? A significant portion of what was left in falls in that category. There were also plenty of frauds left in (and I don't see why a fraud shouldn't be left in really).

Worse, many unsolved mysteries were left out which as a result have been forgotten and gotten less attention. And whatever explanations were given for the removal always seemed contrived or nonsensical.

The original episodes should have been released in their entirety with inserted updates and no edits, rather than hacked up mess that we ended up with.

I agree that it often seems like there's little rhyme or reason to which segments were taken out and which stayed in. I'm guessing that at least some of them were taken out for legal reasons (ongoing litigation, statutes of limitation, etc.).

Another category of UM story I forgot to mention in my earlier post is those concerning parental abductions. I'm definitely fine with those getting the axe, since they were almost always solved quickly, and the kids involved were usually traumatized (and incapable of consent to filming) and deserved to move on with their lives without added publicity.

One of the biggest problems is that the original-run episodes were being chopped up and repackaged long before the FilmRise era. It was always something of a "living, breathing" show.

Another category of UM story I forgot to mention in my earlier post is those concerning parental abductions. I'm definitely fine with those getting the axe, since they were almost always solved quickly, and the kids involved were usually traumatized (and incapable of consent to filming) and deserved to move on with their lives without added publicity.



Yes, and to a much lesser degree of importance, I was never particularly fond of those segments to begin with. No desire to see them again. I always skip over the ones that remain. They rank just above any of the garbage UFO/haunting/unexplained, all of which share the bottom position on my scale.

I agree that it often seems like there's little rhyme or reason to which segments were taken out and which stayed in. I'm guessing that at least some of them were taken out for legal reasons (ongoing litigation, statutes of limitation, etc.).

Another category of UM story I forgot to mention in my earlier post is those concerning parental abductions. I'm definitely fine with those getting the axe, since they were almost always solved quickly, and the kids involved were usually traumatized (and incapable of consent to filming) and deserved to move on with their lives without added publicity.

One of the biggest problems is that the original-run episodes were being chopped up and repackaged long before the FilmRise era. It was always something of a "living, breathing" show.

Like the 1997-2002 reformatted for Lifetime syndication reruns that had the text updates added, intro disclaimer replaced with female voice. Linked below are ending credits from 0:00-0:47 for such syndication reruns. What I would do to for someone to upload such rerun episodes!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFWmK9qXGdI&list=PLgawGTOCsIZLr7oAy78u6zTljN-o1NUve&index=61

I agree that it often seems like there's little rhyme or reason to which segments were taken out and which stayed in. I'm guessing that at least some of them were taken out for legal reasons (ongoing litigation, statutes of limitation, etc.).

Another category of UM story I forgot to mention in my earlier post is those concerning parental abductions. I'm definitely fine with those getting the axe, since they were almost always solved quickly, and the kids involved were usually traumatized (and incapable of consent to filming) and deserved to move on with their lives without added publicity.

One of the biggest problems is that the original-run episodes were being chopped up and repackaged long before the FilmRise era. It was always something of a "living, breathing" show.

I don't buy the legal reasons answer. Outside of one or two cases I am not aware of UM having any litigation concerning their show, and even that was resolved a long time ago. Ongoing litigation between other parties has nothing to do with cutting a segment. Likewise with the statute of limitations, it is a restriction on when the state or a plaintiff may bring criminal or civil action. It has nothing to do with the ability to show a segment of a television show which has already been broadcast to a national audience.

As to the parental abductions, the fact that they were solved isn't very meaningful, since a significant portion of the remaining segments are also solved. Airing the segments 30 years after the fact is not impeding anyone from moving on with their life, but removing them does make it difficult for those interested in media and criminology to study the series as it originally aired.

I definitely agree that the ongoing repackaging of the series makes the "original series" in its most literal interpretation a rather odd mix of repeats and new segments, but a properly done release as far as I'm concerned would have included all segments packaged with updates and no material missing.

I don't buy the legal reasons answer. Outside of one or two cases I am not aware of UM having any litigation concerning their show, and even that was resolved a long time ago. Ongoing litigation between other parties has nothing to do with cutting a segment. Likewise with the statute of limitations, it is a restriction on when the state or a plaintiff may bring criminal or civil action. It has nothing to do with the ability to show a segment of a television show which has already been broadcast to a national audience.

As to the parental abductions, the fact that they were solved isn't very meaningful, since a significant portion of the remaining segments are also solved. Airing the segments 30 years after the fact is not impeding anyone from moving on with their life, but removing them does make it difficult for those interested in media and criminology to study the series as it originally aired.

I definitely agree that the ongoing repackaging of the series makes the "original series" in its most literal interpretation a rather odd mix of repeats and new segments, but a properly done release as far as I'm concerned would have included all segments packaged with updates and no material missing.

I'm sure that Unsolved Mysteries' legal team had received many lawsuit-threats over the years especially during its first run from 1987 - 1997+. I assume many fraudsters & murder-suspects (the real killers that is) threatened UM to take down their segment because 1) "they did it", 2) its embarrassing for them & their families, 3) now it will be harder for them to keep or get a job due to national shame!

I bet there were many complaints from the real killers and real fraudsters - but it didn't prevent UM from airing (and re-airing) their segments during the initial run. However, I think all of this 'helped' "persuade" UM to not re-air some segments later on during the Farina era, UM's 5 disk DVD set release, and its return to YouTube.

Yes, and to a much lesser degree of importance, I was never particularly fond of those segments to begin with. No desire to see them again. I always skip over the ones that remain. They rank just above any of the garbage UFO/haunting/unexplained, all of which share the bottom position on my scale.

I liked the UFO/aliens & the ghosts & the Bigfoot/LochNess sightings during the initial run. Even today I watch some of the bizarre segments. Yet its funny for some long ago UFO segments such as the "Allagash Abductions"! If your "real life" experience of seeing a UFO, getting abducted by the aliens, and getting a bodily exam was such a BIG DEAL - how come they never came back to abduct the 4 of you for 'further research' or on other people?

How come the 4 of you ironically "forgot" about the abduction??!! In real life, you would not have forgotten it period (missing time) and would have told & bragged to everyone what went on, especially if you were scared! **But, I never knew that in UM's early years there were no "UFOs, bigfoots, ghosts" just murder cases, missing people cases, and amnesia. Just look at the pre-Stack year with the first 2 hosts = all of the segments were serious, not silly.

I'm sure that Unsolved Mysteries' legal team had received many lawsuit-threats over the years especially during its first run from 1987 - 1997+. I assume many fraudsters & murder-suspects (the real killers that is) threatened UM to take down their segment because 1) "they did it", 2) its embarrassing for them & their families, 3) now it will be harder for them to keep or get a job due to national shame!

I bet there were many complaints from the real killers and real fraudsters - but it didn't prevent UM from airing (and re-airing) their segments during the initial run. However, I think all of this 'helped' "persuade" UM to not re-air some segments later on during the Farina era, UM's 5 disk DVD set release, and its return to YouTube.

I very much doubt all of that. For starters, the way that this is actually handled is with an ounce of prevention, not a lb of cure. UM certainly (like any show on network television at the time) had to pass standards and practices of the network. Beyond that, I'm sure UM had additional council that was involved due to the subject matter. By the time the show was ready to air it would have been reviewed by legal and given the green light, meaning that the material, as presented, was not a significant legal risk.

Simply because material is embarrassing or shameful does not make it actionable. There are specific legal thresholds which in the US are relatively high due to the nature of common law and the 1st amendment. Just because material upsets someone does not mean they would win anything in court. Moreover, while none of that prevents someone from filling a suit, most people who are running these kind of fraud scams or are suspected of murdering someone are not out spending five plus figures trying to save the good family name. Other than the handful of cases involving wealthy individuals (Martha Moxley comes to mind, although that was left in) its pretty hard to picture anyone bothering UM over these segments.

I liked the UFO/aliens & the ghosts & the Bigfoot/LochNess sightings during the initial run. Even today I watch some of the bizarre segments. Yet its funny for some long ago UFO segments such as the "Allagash Abductions"! If your "real life" experience of seeing a UFO, getting abducted by the aliens, and getting a bodily exam was such a BIG DEAL - how come they never came back to abduct the 4 of you for 'further research' or on other people?

How come the 4 of you ironically "forgot" about the abduction??!! In real life, you would not have forgotten it period (missing time) and would have told & bragged to everyone what went on, especially if you were scared! **But, I never knew that in UM's early years there were no "UFOs, bigfoots, ghosts" just murder cases, missing people cases, and amnesia. Just look at the pre-Stack year with the first 2 hosts = all of the segments were serious, not silly.

For the purposes of Advocatus diaboli. I see no reason that a repeat abduction would be required if the point was just to garner information about the species. Humans have done countless similar investigations of animals without a follow up on the same members.
Missing time is not generally regarded as a choice to forget, but rather as some form of memory erasure, clouding, or repression. There isn't really a basis for saying what someone would do "in real life" here, but many people would not choose to tell or brag to anyone about an abduction, as amongst other reasons, few people would believe them and the social consequences would be severe. We can also infer from how other crime victims react that telling everyone is not always a default response.

The pre-Stack era is very early UM and really takes on more the form of a one off television special. I can understand the inclusion of mysteries with a less ontological angle for such a one off. Once an entire season is going to be produced the shift to include some mysteries of a different nature seems reasonable to me.