Hey,
just wondering if this episode is going around??I always heard about one pilot with a different Mike and Gloria,is this one out there in the trading world,or was it never seen??
thanks:D :D

The Justice For All pilot aired on TV Land a couple of years ago. I watched it but I didn't tape it.

Wait a minute,are you sure your not talking about "those were the days" on the tvland special??:confused: :confused:

TV land aired "Those were the days", the second pilot. The very first pilot was "Justice for all", which has never aired and I believe it is lost.

Originally posted by jon123
TV land aired "Those were the days", the second pilot. The very first pilot was "Justice for all", which has never aired and I believe it is lost.

I may be dumb when it comes to this whole losing business. I thought everything that is ever shown and done goes down into a vault or something. I know they've said the 1919 movie of Anne of Green Gables is lost too. Can somebody explain the whole losing business to me? Thank you.

Originally posted by Jenny
I may be dumb when it comes to this whole losing business. I thought everything that is ever shown and done goes down into a vault or something. I know they've said the 1919 movie of Anne of Green Gables is lost too. Can somebody explain the whole losing business to me? Thank you.

The master vault of which you have been informed does not exist. It is the job of the network and the producers to store tapes and film of things which they create. Unfortunately, some of this stuff becomes destroyed or lost. (In the case of shows like The Tonight Show from the sixties, they were destroyed (burned, I believe) in an attempt to make more room to store other shows, shows which they believed had possibilities in syndicated reruns, which The Tonight Show did not have.)

Originally posted by PPatters


The master vault of which you have been informed does not exist. It is the job of the network and the producers to store tapes and film of things which they create. Unfortunately, some of this stuff becomes destroyed or lost. (In the case of shows like The Tonight Show from the sixties, they were destroyed (burned, I believe) in an attempt to make more room to store other shows, shows which they believed had possibilities in syndicated reruns, which The Tonight Show did not have.)

Oh okay, thanks for explaining. :)

I clearly remember TV Land playing the pilot with a different Mike and Gloria. This was either in 1999 or 2000.

Speaking of "lost" shows. ABC knowingly erased all of their NY soaps, with few exceptions, from before 1978. Almost all pre-1978 eps of "All My Children" and "One Life to Live" are gone, along with some "Ryan's Hope" and the ABC run of "The Edge of Night" (the CBS run was better anyway). Guess they didn't have the foresight for cable, videos, DVDs and satellite TV. Also, destroyed alot of free product for their Soap Net that many people would like to see again.

According to a TV Guide article published a few years ago, the most sought after "lost" tv moments are:
1.Justice For All - the first All In The Family pilot
2. the debut of The Johnny Carson Show
3. the first Super Bowl (NBC/CBS both scrapped the footage)
I heard that the early Johnny Carson shows were recorded over.