Hi!

Yea, there are several inconsistencies in the show with regard to names. As pointed out:

Gilbert's last name is first called Gates, than Bates, then for two episodes it's Harrison, than back to Bates again. All LITB references credit Gilbert's last name as "Bates" so this was obviously an inconsistency in writing

Eddie's dad's name is George Haskell (although Mr. Haskell is played by at least 3 different actors in the series) in "Eddie Spends the Night" it's Frank Haskell. In "Wally Joins the Boy Scouts, Eddie says HIS name is Edward Haskell Jr.! in "Eddie's credit card, it says Eddie's middle initial is "W", but in another Episode (can't remember which one) Eddie says he is Edward Clark Haskell!

Mrs. Rutherford's first name is Geraldine in the 1st-2nd seasons, than later it becomes "Gwendolen".

Lumpy is a Junior in high school when we first meet him, but in the next season, he is a sophomore along with Wally and Eddie. (It is said he was held back a year, but in this case, he would just repeat his junior year, not go back to sophomore.)

The actor who played Mr. Blair (Wendell Holmes) also played Mr. Willett, who was Beaver's music teacher and Beaver's principle. (He has light hair than) Mr. Blair also played Andy the alcoholic.

In the first season....Wally is either 12 or 13 years old depending on the episodes when his age is discussed.

If you think of others....add to the list!!!

Jack

The same guy played Captain Jack and Uncle Billy...

In the first seasons, they always say that the ocean is far away, but in the last seasons, the ocean is said to be 20 miles away...

In the 4th season, there is an episode that Wally says something about being in the class of '62, but he graduates in '63. I don't remember him being held back...

It's kind of fun spotting all of these litttle inconsistencies!

I really don't think the same actor playing different roles is an inconsistency; not in the progress of the show itself, anyway. Uncle Billy was not a 'split personality' who sometimes thought he ran an alligator farm {even though not much about Uncle Billy should be shocking}. But [within the show, only characters should be considered, and the actors whol played them are out of scope.

The most obvious incosistency, IMO, is the time distortion in how Wally is at first 6 grades ahead of Beaver in school, and by the end this is down to 4 grades. Wally was definitely too smart to have failed a year of high school-- and even if he did, Eddie, Mary Ellen, Julie, and the rest of his classmates we meet all failed the same year. And Beaver apparently skipped the 7th grade, because in season #5 it is clearly stated he is in the 6th grade, and the final season, #6, it is just as clearly said that he is in the 8th grade; and his classmates, Gilbert, Richard, and Whitey, all stay in the same class/grade. So Wally really should have been a college freshman the final season, but that would have altered the domestic premise of the show-- unless they just forgot about "State" for a while and had him and his familiar friends go to a local junior college, perhaps.

In the ep earlier this week in which the guys from Mayfield draw names of the girls from 'Riverside' for the dance [something that surely would not be arranged these days], that is an inconsistency about the town, Riverside. Most of the time when Aunt Martha's home is mentioned it is in Riverside, and is a long drive from Mayfield. But in this ep it seems to be within a few miles. But another town mentioned more than once is 'Bellport,' and I think at least once that town is said to be where Aunt Martha lives. I don't remember which one, if any, is said to be her home the time she takes an airplane to come visiting. Sure, Aunt Martha might have relocated, but Riverside surely didn't get closer to Mayfield to where the high schools could have a joint dance and Wally could meet his date when she happened to be shopping with her mother.

I did just think what may be an exception to my first paragraph. In "Weekend Invitation," David Kent plays 'Scott,' who invites the guys to the lake cabin for a weekend with no adult supervision. He later plays another character, 'Bill Scott'-- or is this another character? 'Bill,' who only appears in a few eps, is quite different from 'Scott' in "Weekend Invitation;" he is a docile, steady guy, whereas 'Scott' was rather feisty and devious. But I don't recall a last name stated for Scott... so this seems to mean he might or he might not be the same character... or an idea where it can 'work either way.'

Eddie's dad was called George in very late episodes. I'm not sure if it was true that in every case where he was called George, the actor who played him was George Petrie (if so, maybe not a coincidence). Remember that George Petrie was Jackie Gleason's do-it-all man on The Honeymooners; he could be a psychiatrist on one episode and a cottage salesman on another. I thought it was hilarious when he showed up as Eddie's dad.

If Wally was 12 in the 8th grade, he should have graduated when he was 16. I always wondered why they didn't start him out as a 6th grader instead of making him younger as the years passed.

Eighth graders are typically 13 and 14:

Eighth: 13, 14
Ninth (Freshmen): 14, 15
Tenth (Sophomores): 15, 16
Eleventh (Juniors): 16, 17
Twelfth (Seniors): 17, 18

If Wally was in the 8th grade at age 12, he could turn 13 that year. He would then graduate at age 17 -- while most people grad at 18.

If Wally was 12 in the 8th grade, he should have graduated when he was 16. I always wondered why they didn't start him out as a 6th grader instead of making him younger as the years passed.

Usually you turn 14 in the 8th grade. In season 1, Wally was definitely in grade school, but what happened? I have seen examples of writers "taking a leap" to move a storyline forward. Characters age, there are gaps in continuity and we shouldn't notice (because we are stupid)?

As mentioned before, Lumpy was at first a bully, much older than Wally, then all of a sudden he is in Wally's grade and a chum.
I submitted a thread on the "Little House on the Prairie" site stating that continuity is an issue. I listed a dozen people that appeared as several different characters, as if the viewers are idiots and can't catch on.

Writers and producers need to get the message that beyond their six figure salaries, there are fans out there that are supporting them and we don't appreciate being made fools of.

Of course, these shows are in the past, but I think even less concern is being applied nowadays.

:soapbox: Sorry!

Anyway, I'm still watching and loving the classics!

Why was she the principal and than later Beaver's teacher. I know a lot of principals start out as teachers and than move onto the principal, but that seems like a demotion.

In the episode Beaver on TV, the premise does make any sense. Beaver is to appear on a tenn forum panel show, and is let out of school to appear, and than he isn't on the show becuase it's taped, not live. Why oh why, would they air a show that appeals to teens in the middle of the day, when the ultimate viewers would be in school or taken out of school to appear. The show should of been on a Saturday morning or late weekday afternoon, It just didn't make sense.

In Mother's Helper it's okay that June would want a little help around the house, but I doubt she would wait around until Margie could come over after school to start her housework. For Margie to stick around until after dinner so she could help wash dishes was wierd. Were the Clevers in the dinning room having dinner, and Margie scouring out the sink waiting for them to finish. If June was that tired why couldn't her 2 sons help out with the dishes. I know it's only a story, but I like premises that make sense.

If Wally was in the 8th grade at age 12, he could turn 13 that year.
In the episode where Wally joins the scouts, Tooey tells the man he just turned 12. That means he entered the 8th grade when he was 11. So Wally probably would have graduated at 16 if they hadn't changed things later.

From an old thread: http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=6656&highlight=school

I did not see that particular ep this past weekend, but I recall Beaver saying he is "SEVEN and three-quarters." Anyway, I
thought most states were quite standard in that a student starts first grade based on Sept. 1 following his sixth birtday. (Though some exceptions have been allowed, including my sister, who was permitted to start early because her b-day is in early Sept.; also, students who switch from private school with early admission, to public.)

If that is the case, then Beaver being in the second grade at 7 3/4 is correct; but the older boys being in the eighth grade at 12 appears a year early. Were there, perhaps, differing rules about such things, considering the nation's birthrate should have slowed down quite a bit during WW2 (Wally's and Eddie's age indicates they were born in '45, and Ward was supposed to have been in the South Pacific during the war [don't read too much into this : )] ). My dad was also in the S.Pacific, and he was gone from '41 to '45 continuously. The point is, was the minimum age for starting school a year less around '50-'51 to help make room for all the original 'baby boomers' born in '46?

One other point. In season #1, Wally is in grade 8 and Beaver in grade 2. In the final season, #6, Wally is a h.s. senior and Beaver is in grade 8. Wally was not held back 2 grades in school. It seems Wally 'lost' a year and Beaver 'gained' a year. So I really don't see why they had to start the series run with the boys farther apart in age than was necessary-- and true, considering that TD is just 3 years older than JM.

How about Gilbert too, I do remember in the episode where Gilbert moves in across the street, Beaver and Gilbert get into a fight, and Mr Cleaver and Gilbert's dad are talking, and Gilbert's dad says something like it's hard for the boy, and he (The Dad) is a musician, and they are always moving. Then later in the series, Gilbert says his dad is an electrical engineer. (I thought he was a musician?) Then in the episode where Beaver plays the lead in a play, and has to kiss the girl, the teachers are talking, and one says Gilbert did not make the drama club, because he was giggling, and the other teacher says " I had his Dad as a boy" and he was always giggling too. (What so He grew up in Mayfield and just happened to move back there.)

Yes, the thing about Lumpy (the age thing) always killed me. Like was said, first he was way older, and a bully, and wally was real young, then they were all in the same year school.

It's not a big deal, but if your a die hard LITB fan, it just kind of kills me.

I am sure there are others, can't think of anything right now.

OH, and the one l saw tonight where Beaver and Ward go to the school awards dinner, and beaver don't want to wear a suite.
Anyways, Gilberts Dad is a different guy than the one where Gilbert first moved there,and his dad said he was a musician.........LOL

I don't know if it's unusual but I graduated from 8th grade at age 13 and turned 14 in Aug '65.

I always took it that Mrs Rayburn was just filling in. Although they never did say the regular teacher was sick or anything.
In that same show, Beaver on TV Beaver did say "I'll even mention what a neat principal we got."
So I took it as she was just filling in .


Why was she the principal and than later Beaver's teacher. I know a lot of principals start out as teachers and than move onto the principal, but that seems like a demotion.

In the episode Beaver on TV, the premise does make any sense. Beaver is to appear on a tenn forum panel show, and is let out of school to appear, and than he isn't on the show becuase it's taped, not live. Why oh why, would they air a show that appeals to teens in the middle of the day, when the ultimate viewers would be in school or taken out of school to appear. The show should of been on a Saturday morning or late weekday afternoon, It just didn't make sense.

How about the 1st time Uncle Billy came to town. Ward was ready to call the hotel and tell Uncle Billy off for promising the boys things, and not coming through with them. Toward the end,Beaver sees Uncle Billy getting a hair cut, and the barber and the manicurist are looking at each other and rolling there eyes, and Uncle Billy was made out to be a big blow hard, story teller, beaver was even making fun of him in the end, doing an impression of him.
Then in season 6 Uncle Billy visits again, Uncle Billy is shown to be the greatest thing in the world. The one where Beaver and Gilbert get caught sneaking Gilbert into the movie, They are in the managers office, and Beaver says Uncle Billy is a swell guy. Not really a Inconsistency, but then the theater manager was the same guy that was the police chief in the one where Richard gave beavers name for breaking windows at that vacant house.

Season 1 ep. 11 Beavers Short Pants, When there sitting at the breakfast table, Aunt martha says Ward already left for work.
Wally says he has "An Early Class" he better get going too. (Like he was in college or something)
As far as l know, 7th graders all start at the same time.

Yea,

We know about actor Edgar Buchanan playing both "Captain Jack" the alligator farm owner and Uncle Billy. But what is funny, despite that inconsistency, is that if anyone WOULD have an alligator farm, it would be Uncle Billy! They should have just called him "Captain Billy!" I love that line, something like:

"If you fell in the alligator pit there, that alligator wouldn't bit your arm off. He would SAW IT OFF!"

Jack

Yeah, or at least he would have claimed to own a alligator farm.
How about how Mayfield had everything.
Of course, the alligator farm, they had a zoo, a adoption agency, milk ice cream company, probably others, can't think of right now.

Yea,

We know about actor Edgar Buchanan playing both "Captain Jack" the alligator farm owner and Uncle Billy. But what is funny, despite that inconsistency, is that if anyone WOULD have an alligator farm, it would be Uncle Billy! They should have just called him "Captain Billy!" I love that line, something like:

"If you fell in the alligator pit there, that alligator wouldn't bit your arm off. He would SAW IT OFF!"

Jack

and everything was within walking distance

So Wally really should have been a college freshman the final season, but that would have altered the domestic premise of the show-- unless they just forgot about "State" for a while and had him and his familiar friends go to a local junior college, perhaps.

Unless "State" was located in Mayfield (a few blocks down the road naturally) :lol:

In the ep earlier this week in which the guys from Mayfield draw names of the girls from 'Riverside' for the dance [something that surely would not be arranged these days]'

That's what we did for my Grad Dance in '82, mind you the girls went to the same school, (and I still think the lottery was rigged). :rolleyes:

How about the episode, "Beaver's Old Buddy"? The premise of this episode is that Beaver hasn't seen his old friend, Jackie, because since the Cleavers moved to their second house, he no longer lives near Jackie. But weren't the Cleavers within walking distance of Larry, Gilbert and Eddie's homes from both their first and second houses? If Beaver could still walk to Larry and Gilbert's houses, why couldn't he just as easily walk to Jackie's house?

How about the episode, "Beaver's Old Buddy"? The premise of this episode is that Beaver hasn't seen his old friend, Jackie, because since the Cleavers moved to their second house, he no longer lives near Jackie. But weren't the Cleavers within walking distance of Larry, Gilbert and Eddie's homes from both their first and second houses? If Beaver could still walk to Larry and Gilbert's houses, why couldn't he just as easily walk to Jackie's house?
Yeah, thats true, then in "Beavers old friend" the one where he finds the old teddy bear, Wally finds Beaver talking to the Bear, and they are talking, Wally asks Beaver why he likes the bear so much, Beaver says, Remember at the "Other House" when I had the measles, But it's not entill Season 2 episode 29, Beaver says good buy, that they even talk about moving.
Now I guess they could have moved again.
In The Grass is always greener, The trash man is "Mr Fletcher" They act like they knew him all there lives, and it look like the trash business belonged to Mr Fletcher. but in this one, when he talked to the trash man, it was "Hey Mister" I am pretty sure it was the same trash man.
And Ward Mentions "The City"

This isn't really an inconsistency, but actress Cheryl Holdridge played two different girls in the series. In her first two appearances, she was "Gloria Cusick", then, in six later episodes, she played "Julie Foster". To me and I'm sure many others, with her attractive looks and that husky-like voice, you always knew it was Cheryl.

what episodes was she Gloria Cusick?

what episodes was she Gloria Cusick?

"Wally's Pug Nose" - originally aired February 5, 1959

"Wally The Businessman" - originally aired May 28, 1960

"Wally's Pug Nose" - originally aired February 5, 1959

"Wally The Businessman" - originally aired May 28, 1960
Oh, OK, I'll look for it when it come up.

Yeah, thats true, then in "Beavers old friend" the one where he finds the old teddy bear, Wally finds Beaver talking to the Bear, and they are talking, Wally asks Beaver why he likes the bear so much, Beaver says, Remember at the "Other House" when I had the measles, But it's not entill Season 2 episode 29, Beaver says good buy, that they even talk about moving.
Now I guess they could have moved again.
In The Grass is always greener, The trash man is "Mr Fletcher" They act like they knew him all there lives, and it look like the trash business belonged to Mr Fletcher. but in this one, when he talked to the trash man, it was "Hey Mister" I am pretty sure it was the same trash man.
And Ward Mentions "The City"
Yeah, I just watched the grass is always greener, and the side of the truck it says "Henry's Refuse"
And Ward Mentions "The City" referring to the trash men in the one about the Teddy Bear.

This isn't really an inconsistency, but actress Cheryl Holdridge played two different girls in the series. In her first two appearances, she was "Gloria Cusick", then, in six later episodes, she played "Julie Foster". To me and I'm sure many others, with her attractive looks and that husky-like voice, you always knew it was Cheryl.

Looks like they did it again with "Pamela Baird" best known for her role as "Mary Ellen Rogers" Was said To be in about 7 episodes, as Mary Ellen Rogers.
Well in Season 3 "Wally's orchid" She played this "Myra" girl. Never gave a last name. But I thought it was the same girl, so I looked at the credits.
It was her.

Then in the same episode, Eddie says His dad watches the paper for divorce's, and buys up houses cheap. Making it sound like he is a realtor.
But when he is acting all polite to mrs. Cleaver, he said one time, "You know my dad has such and such garage"..............LOL.

Season 1 esp. 20, "Lonesome Beaver" june is all worried about the boys all riding in the back of the truck to go to friends lake. Ward says, "It can't be over 50 or 60 miles", then is season 3 ,esp 26, "Beavers Bike" When the older kid steals Beavers bike, Larry says he hopes they find Beavers bike, cause He and Whitey are riding up to Friends Lake Saturday.
Don't you think 50 or 60 miles is a little far for kids on regular bikes?

Now, season 4 esp. 3. "Beaver Becomes A Hero" They were at friends lake, June finds Beavers pants tucked way under the sink, soaking wet.
She says how can he have walked all the way home from the lake with jeans that are soaking wet.

Now they walked 50 or 60 miles...............LOL.

ln "Captain Jack." When they take Captain Jack, to the alligator farm, and when they come back home, there's a dog waiting for Wally and Beaver.
What ever happened to the dog? We never see it after that.

This isn't really an inconsistency, but it is a little goofy. (And funny!)

Watch 'Beaver's English Test" and also watch "Beaver's Typewriter." (Both from Season 5.) Beaver has two different teachers, (Mr. Blair)-"Beaver's English Test" and Mr. Bailey-"Beaver's Typewriter." Look at the blackboard when shown in both episodes..........The same homework assignment is on the board!!!! hahahaha!!! It's something like, "Identify the Eight Parts of Speech." in both episodes!

There's at least two episodes from an earlier season with Ms. Landers teaching in each case (I think.) where the blackboard says "Spelling-Write each word 5 times neatly. (I know that phrase is there.)

But there are instances in the episodes where other assignments are different on the board.

Jack

I'll have to keep my eye out for those

Season 3 The Pet Fair, and Season 5 Wally's Weekend Job, The same guy plays both the owner of the drug store where Wally works, and the owner of the pet store where Beaver sees the Parrot and gets his dad to rent the bird for the pet fair. He is Mr Allen in the Pet Fair, and Mr Gibson in Wally's weekend Job.

I don't think the same actor playing different parts in different episodes constitutes an "inconsistency." There were only so many actors of a certain status around, so they had to make do with what they had. Besides, you see that on other shows all the time. "Dragnet," in particular, was a serial "offender" in this regard.

The actor referred to in those to LITB episodes is Tim Graham who was seen in numerous TV series from 1950 into the early 1970's. He also was in the pilot of LITB in 1957 which was titled "It's A Small World". Graham passed away in 1979 at the age of 74.

I don't think the same actor playing different parts in different episodes constitutes an "inconsistency." There were only so many actors of a certain status around, so they had to make do with what they had. Besides, you see that on other shows all the time. "Dragnet," in particular, was a serial "offender" in this regard.
Dragnet did it big time. The three stooges even more, it was funny in the 3 stooges. On time the guy was a cop, and another time, he was some ruler in the 16th century.

well,in LITB, then in the one about counting the goldfish, it was a different pet store owner all together.


The actor referred to in those to LITB episodes is Tim Graham who was seen in numerous TV series from 1950 into the early 1970's. He also was in the pilot of LITB in 1957 which was titled "It's A Small World". Graham passed away in 1979 at the age of 74.

I saw where the same lesson was on the blackboard it Beavers English test, and in Beavers typewriter.................LOL
The guy who played Mr Blair, also played the music teacher,Mr. T.J. Willet, and played Andy, the one who painted the Cleavers house, and drank, and fell off the ladder. Seemed to me to be a pretty good actor.
He died early in life at like age 47.

The actor referred to in those to LITB episodes is Tim Graham who was seen in numerous TV series from 1950 into the early 1970's. He also was in the pilot of LITB in 1957 which was titled "It's A Small World". Graham passed away in 1979 at the age of 74.

What role did Tim Graham play in "It's a small world"?

What role did Tim Graham play in "It's a small world"?

All I can find is a character named "Doc". No other information available.

Dragnet did it big time. The three stooges even more, it was funny in the 3 stooges. On time the guy was a cop, and another time, he was some ruler in the 16th century.

well,in LITB, then in the one about counting the goldfish, it was a different pet store owner all together.




I saw where the same lesson was on the blackboard it Beavers English test, and in Beavers typewriter.................LOL
The guy who played Mr Blair, also played the music teacher,Mr. T.J. Willet, and played Andy, the one who painted the Cleavers house, and drank, and fell off the ladder. Seemed to me to be a pretty good actor.
He died early in life at like age 47.

When he plays Mr. Willet he has white hair, not black.

Jack

Season 6 in the opening credits, when they are all getting into wards car, and backing out, the plate number is WJG865.
In season 6 esp. 17 the parking attendant, Mr Rutherford's car gets towed, it has the same WJG865 plate number. LOL

Here's another one


In the episode where Violet Rutherford gives Beaver a black eye, Fred came by the house and was bragging on his two sons. We know he had Lumpy. Where is the other son?

Yeah, thats true, then in "Beavers old friend" the one where he finds the old teddy bear, Wally finds Beaver talking to the Bear, and they are talking, Wally asks Beaver why he likes the bear so much, Beaver says, Remember at the "Other House" when I had the measles, But it's not entill Season 2 episode 29, Beaver says good buy, that they even talk about moving.
Now I guess they could have moved again.

OK just saw it last night, in the last eps. of season 2 , beaver said He wonders if he could visit the house when they move, Wally said it was goofy or something, and beaver says something like "when you lived in a house all your life"

In the episode where Wally buys the loud suit, check the end credits. Ken Osmond was in that episode but his name is not listed in the credits. I didnt notice that until the last time I watched it.

I don't know if it's unusual but I graduated from 8th grade at age 13 and turned 14 in Aug '65.

Same here!

OK, how about in Part time genius, season 1, where beaver goes to that special school they were going to maybe put him in, he is all worried about the school not having a baseball field. Pretty sure in "Beaver's Accordion", it was the same guy who came to collect Beaver's Accordion, as it was the Dean of the school.
Then in season 2, in "Beaver the Athlete" beaver is all uncoordinated, and can't hit a baseball, and is goofing around to make the kids laugh. Then Larry is all good, hitting a home run.
The fat kids were never too good at sports as a kid. (I was one)
Then esp. 39 season 3 in "Beaver's Team" Beaver is the captain of the team, and is assumed to be "All good" in sports.

Then in season 1, "Beavers short Pants", the English guy that sells them the Gay school boy suite, is the same guy that sells the boys wards hunting jacket in the same season's, esp, "The Bank Account"
Thanks,
Tony

I tend to think in the early years of tv, one actor played many parts. If I was an actor I would like the change. Frank Nelson played several different characters in I Love Lucy.

I tend to think in the early years of tv, one actor played many parts. If I was an actor I would like the change. Frank Nelson played several different characters in I Love Lucy.
yeah, I know,
It's just funny in a way.

Eric Snowden ... Salesman at Abernathy Potts ............the bank account

Eric Snowden ... Clothier ....................................beavers short pants

part time genius
and beavers accordion were the same guy.......John Hoyt
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0398466/?ref_=tt_cl_t7

Here's another one


In the episode where Violet Rutherford gives Beaver a black eye, Fred came by the house and was bragging on his two sons. We know he had Lumpy. Where is the other son?
yeah, well l said it before in another post, but Larry Mondello said he had a baby brother in the one about the white rabbit they trapped, and it had bunnies.
Beaver and Henry I think it was called.
You never saw the dad, the sister, the older brother that got married, and now a baby brother we never saw.
Plus Larry brought a dog to school in "Pet Fair"
You never saw it after that.

Yeah, thats true, then in "Beavers old friend" the one where he finds the old teddy bear, Wally finds Beaver talking to the Bear, and they are talking, Wally asks Beaver why he likes the bear so much, Beaver says, Remember at the "Other House" when I had the measles, But it's not entill Season 2 episode 29, Beaver says good buy, that they even talk about moving.
Now I guess they could have moved again.
In The Grass is always greener, The trash man is "Mr Fletcher" They act like they knew him all there lives, and it look like the trash business belonged to Mr Fletcher. but in this one, when he talked to the trash man, it was "Hey Mister" I am pretty sure it was the same trash man.
And Ward Mentions "The City"
Yep, same trash man,
Jesse Kirkpatrick

Usually you turn 14 in the 8th grade. In season 1, Wally was definitely in grade school, but what happened? I have seen examples of writers "taking a leap" to move a storyline forward. Characters age, there are gaps in continuity and we shouldn't notice (because we are stupid)?

As mentioned before, Lumpy was at first a bully, much older than Wally, then all of a sudden he is in Wally's grade and a chum.
I submitted a thread on the "Little House on the Prairie" site stating that continuity is an issue. I listed a dozen people that appeared as several different characters, as if the viewers are idiots and can't catch on.

Writers and producers need to get the message that beyond their six figure salaries, there are fans out there that are supporting them and we don't appreciate being made fools of.

Of course, these shows are in the past, but I think even less concern is being applied nowadays.

:soapbox: Sorry!

Anyway, I'm still watching and loving the classics!

It looks like Grades Kindergarten through 8 was at the same school, then 9-12 at the high school. That's my impression anyways as I've been re watching the show.

ln "Captain Jack." When they take Captain Jack, to the alligator farm, and when they come back home, there's a dog waiting for Wally and Beaver.
What ever happened to the dog? We never see it after that.

In a later episode, I think from the same season they mention them having a dog that ran away.

Yeah, or at least he would have claimed to own a alligator farm.
How about how Mayfield had everything.
Of course, the alligator farm, they had a zoo, a adoption agency, milk ice cream company, probably others, can't think of right now.
Mayfield electric, Ice Skating rink, junk yard (Fats) Fire Dept. Trash dump,
Meskers field,.......................................
What else?

In a later episode, I think from the same season they mention them having a dog that ran away.
yeah, your right, but I don't know if they really planed it that way.
It was the one where Beaver got pulled over with the Go Cart, and the cop asked him for a license, he said he has a license from a dog that ran away.
Same season.
Funny episode BTY
The State verses Beaver it was called.

In "Beavers Poem" Beaver was to recite his poem and get a prize at school.
He asks Larry if he ever got a prize, and Larry says just at dance school, and Beaver asks, for being the best dancer.
Larry says, No, for being the only one to not miss any dance lessons.
What about the time they skipped the dance lesson, and were hiding behind the barn, and road that girls horse and got all dirty and smelly.

Season 4, Episode 11 Chuckies New Shoes.
Chuckie lives in the Neighbor hood, they know him and his mom.

Season 4, Episode 35: Beaver's Frogs
Chuckie collects flies for the frogs to eat.

Season 3, Episode 35: Wally, the Businessman
Here Cuuckie is just some little boy from the neighbor hood, and Wally calls him "Little Boy"

Season 6, Episode 28 - Wally and the Fraternity.
June and Ward talk about how they met at "State"
Before that, didn't June always say she went to "Boarding School"?
Or would that have been grade school?

Season 6, Episode 28 - Wally and the Fraternity.
June and Ward talk about how they met at "State"
Before that, didn't June always say she went to "Boarding School"?
Or would that have been grade school?

Boarding school would have been grade school and/or high school.

In the one where Richard breaks the window, and gives the police Beavers name and address, he said, 211 pine Ave. In I think it was Beaver the Rabbit,
beaver tells the police from the phone booth, or maybe it was Beavers long night, when he called the police on Lumpy sitting out front, He tells them 211 Pine Street.

Looks like they did it again with "Pamela Baird" best known for her role as "Mary Ellen Rogers" Was said To be in about 7 episodes, as Mary Ellen Rogers.
Well in Season 3 "Wally's orchid" She played this "Myra" girl. Never gave a last name. But I thought it was the same girl, so I looked at the credits.
It was her.

Then in the same episode, Eddie says His dad watches the paper for divorce's, and buys up houses cheap. Making it sound like he is a realtor.
But when he is acting all polite to mrs. Cleaver, he said one time, "You know my dad has such and such garage"..............LOL.

It is very hard to catch Myra's last name but when June has her head in Ward's lap and they are waiting for Wally to come home from the dance Ward asks June when the Parkers are bringing Wally home. Myra Parker.

I always liked when they changed the occupations of the fathers. I noticed that too about Mr. Haskell- realtor and Mr. Haskell- garage owner. If Mr. Haskell owned a garage I would think Eddie would have been a lot more proficient when he quits school to work in a gas station.

I also love how Mr. Gates is a flute player and then Mr. Harrison is an electrical engineer (same guy). This has already been mentioned. I think Gilbert also mentions how his father gets headaches since he started his own business.

June wants to invite Miss Landers to dinner since she's new in town and probably doesn't know anyone. Later in the one when Alice Landers is going to be married and Beaver is lovesick it says in the paper how she is a local girl and her parents live right in Mayfield. Another inconsistency?

June wants to invite Miss Landers to dinner since she's new in town and probably doesn't know anyone. Later in the one when Alice Landers is going to be married and Beaver is lovesick it says in the paper how she is a local girl and her parents live right in Mayfield. Another inconsistency?
LOL
Thats funny.

Friends Lake always seemed to be far away enough to have to drive there. In Wally, The Lifeguard and Wally's Dream Girl Ward drives them up. In Beaver and Violet Fred does the driving. So I wonder why in Borrowed Boat Beaver and Larry are allowed to go to Friends Lake all alone during off season. Friends Lake winds up being local when Mrs. M and Wally pick up the boys.

Friends Lake always seemed to be far away enough to have to drive there. In Wally, The Lifeguard and Wally's Dream Girl Ward drives them up. In Beaver and Violet Fred does the driving. So I wonder why in Borrowed Boat Beaver and Larry are allowed to go to Friends Lake all alone during off season. Friends Lake winds up being local when Mrs. M and Wally pick up the boys.
well yeah, then when Wally was in the boy scouts, Ward says Friends lake couldn't be more than 60 miles.
Then in the one where Beavers bike gets stolen, Larry says he hope's they find his bike cause there riding the bikes up to friends lake that weekend.
Then I think it was the one where Beaver wades out and gets the canoe,
and his pants were all wet, June finds them wadded up and hidden somewhere, and she says she can't imagian the beaver "Walking" from friends lake with wet pants.

Wow they go to Friends Lake a lot. I didn't realize that Beaver and Wally are fishing at the lake in Beaver Becomes a Hero. I just saw that scene when June finds Beaver's jeans rolled up under the sink for the first time in a long time. They always edit it out. When they try out the kayak is that Miller's Pond?

This is not so much an inconsistency as a blooper. At the kitchen table in Beaver's Freckles he mentions how he's going to polish Lumpy's car with Whitey and Gilbert but when he's at Lumpy's it's not Gilbert it's Larry. Do you think that Rusty wasn't cast in this one but at the last minute decided he would be in that one scene? Rusty Stevens made his last appearance in the next episode, Beaver's Big Contest.

When they try out the kayak is that Miller's Pond?


Yeah, millers pond.

There is one episode where Eddie tells June his father is grooming him to work in his father's business ( a Garage)......Then Eddie gets a job as a gas station attendant ...and is totally clueless!

That's right and then in other episodes Eddie mentions how his father looks at the divorce listings so he can find houses for sale (real estate). He also had three different middle names and three different fathers.

In one episode we learn that Miss Landers is going to be married to a Mr. Birmingham maybe? Well in Nobody Loves Me Beaver decides to go visit some of his old friends like Gus and Miss Landers. She recognizes Beaver and is still Miss Landers. What happened to Mr. Birmingham?

As much as I love, "Beaver's English Test," I found it a stretch that Wally would be able to find and give Beaver and Gilbert a sample test he took in the sixth grade so quickly. Back than, it was more common for teachers to repeat the same test questions. However, Mr. Blair has been established as a "new" teacher. A new teacher giving out the same test questions from several years ago.

You're looking at about a five year difference back when Wally was in the sixth grade, and Beaver currently in sixth grade at the time of this episode. Mr. Blair, or any teacher for that matter, would certainly be able to write up a test with twenty to thirty grammar sentences for his class and run them through the copy machine, which would have been used at that time. The same with Wally's teacher at the time he took the same test.

Jack

There is one episode where Eddie tells June his father is grooming him to work in his father's business ( a Garage)......Then Eddie gets a job as a gas station attendant ...and is totally clueless!

However, there is great subtle humor in that situation,

Eddie ALWAYS played himself up to be this arrogant, obnoxious snob, claiming to be better than he was! Anything that comes out of Eddie Haskell's mouth must be taken with a grain of salt, and often is BS anyway! hahaha!

We really don't KNOW if Mr. Haskell was preparing Eddie to work in his father's business or not. Based on Eddie's actual on the job performance at the gas station, I don't think he ever worked in any kind of auto maintenance or mechanical things at all! Or even if he did, Mr. Haskell could have even "let his son go" (politically correct term for getting fired.) the first day or so when he saw Eddie couldn't do the work.

Jack

I have been pondering about Beaver and Wally's ages and grades. It's totally ironic that Wally was "held back" a grade and Beaver "skipped" a grade (7th) just so they would graduate the same year.

I have been pondering about Beaver and Wally's ages and grades. It's totally ironic that Wally was "held back" a grade and Beaver "skipped" a grade (7th) just so they would graduate the same year.

Actually what happened is, Jerry had a growth spurt sometime between the middle of Season five and the end of Season five. He got "bigger all around." His voice also starts to get deeper around the end of Season five. What I heard, or read somewhere, was that the producers thought they could have him skip a grade. I think is also true that they could have easily began Beaver in the eighth grade for Season six, so that both brothers would be graduating from their schools that season.

I always thought that by the end of the series, both Jerry and Tony looked older than they were. Tony looked to be in his early twenties, but was only about eighteen. Jerry looked more like a freshmen or sophomore high school student than the eighth grader he would have been if "Beaver" had not skipped a grade.

They stretched Wally's grades out mid to late series, so he would be going to college at the end, or had the series continued. Beaver, just as Jerry was in real life at the time was starting high school and Tony would have been starting college. The ages of the boys and their grades may have fluctuated, but it seemed to work out at the end.

Jack