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Ewan's My Man
10-07-2002, 09:47 PM
Anybody here about him? He is one freaky son of a bitch. I live in Maryland and our skool has already been in lockdowns twice. For those of u that don't kno a lock down is when u lock all doors and cover all windows and u can't go outside. NEwayzie, I'm praying for all those families who have lost somebody, and the kid that was shot today.

Jinny Girl
10-07-2002, 09:49 PM
hes WEIRD. what bugs me tho, is how many people does he have to kill before the cops find him?

Georgia's on my Mind
10-07-2002, 09:50 PM
omg...I know I am reallly so scared....

Yeah we have lock down practices in our school...but there are no locks on the doors.... all they do is shut the lights off and make u pile in a corner....

*Marilyn Monroe*
10-07-2002, 10:17 PM
OMG...I heard about him! We spent half of Algebra class talking about it today, cuz a kid in our town committed suicide last night, and we were on the subject of death. What an awful thing to do.

DarleneIllyria
10-07-2002, 10:43 PM
I've never heard of Sniper, but the high school over here did a lockdown once. They brought in the drug dogs and made everybody stay in the classrooms. I was in Horticulture class at the time (God, I hated that class so much. It bored me half to death) and spending 2 hours in class was just torture. Classes were usually an hour and 30 minutes, but even that added 30 minutes was hell.

Czas na Zywiec
10-07-2002, 11:54 PM
We have never had had a lockdown before. I mean we have like 3687659865 entrances in and out of the school that it's unbelieveable. You could find your way into that school in so many ways that you won't believe. Hell you can climb the building, get on the roof, and get into the Quad and do damage there. But I never heard of this Sniper guy.

-*Forever*-
10-08-2002, 12:16 AM
My grammas going where the 13 year old boy was killed :( I'm scared, I don't want her to go, Vivi knows how nice she is, right Viv?

ks
10-08-2002, 10:57 AM
Honestly, you would think the cops would have a solid lead to go on. This guy seems to be a mystery too all though. Six dead, two severely injured, and it's probably not over...
That's just freaky. I hope they get a solid lead soon. Funny how it's being preformed so close to our nations capitol...?











ks

Crimson and Clover
10-08-2002, 04:44 PM
i heard about this. its awful, i hope no one else gets hurt. i dont live in or near maryland but we have had lock down.

Mossopp
10-08-2002, 06:05 PM
I heard about the Sniper on the news this morning. That's pretty heavy stuff. If I lived in that area I'd be so para right now - I'd constantly be looking over my shoulder.
I'm sure the police'll get him (or her) soon.

Kristina
10-09-2002, 01:44 PM
I'm in California so its kinda a while away and I haven't heard of this person yet, but I don't watch the news... Thats awful though.

Kristina
10-09-2002, 01:47 PM
Oh one more thing, our school has had lockdown before. A creepy homeless guy was on the campus naked laying on the benches when I was in 5th or 4th grade I can't remember... I saw him when I was at recess and we all had to run into the class and lock the doors and hide under the desks, it was creepy because we didn't know if he had a gun.

Brian Damage
10-09-2002, 01:51 PM
I just heard on the news this morning that he may have struck again.

Babes_Cat
10-09-2002, 02:19 PM
Yeah, he's been all over the news in the morning while my mom drives me to school.... crazy

Jinny Girl
10-09-2002, 04:41 PM
im in Nj so im faily safe. At my old school we had 4 lockdown drills. for no reason. just a lockdown drill. they're pointless cuz out school onlyhad 200 people, so noone would want to shoot us. And if they did, they ould just shoot the lock off the door and proceed to kill us all. I mean if I were gonna I would. its obvious when someone announces something over the loudspeaker and then everyone slams their doors and all the lights go off.

Czas na Zywiec
10-09-2002, 04:57 PM
I just saw the guy on Channel 1 this morning and I think it's awful. I mean 8 attempted murders, and 7 of them were succesful. All I have to say is wtach your back everyone, especially you Lauren since you're the closest to DC out of all of us.

Ewan's My Man
10-09-2002, 09:21 PM
People are starting to get hyper, cuz they can't go outside. I'm not all that spazzed, but my friend on the other hand...

ks
10-09-2002, 10:26 PM
Originally posted by Ewan's My Man
People are starting to get hyper, cuz they can't go outside. I'm not all that spazzed, but my friend on the other hand...



Just stay on the couch, couch-partner. Stay on the couch...
Oh, and keep Mr. Bigglesworth safe;)







ks

Mr. Shy Guy
10-09-2002, 10:33 PM
I don't know if anybody has heard this yet but there has been another shooting in Virgina. It's not known yet if it infact is related.

ks
10-10-2002, 09:04 AM
Originally posted by Gregorio
I don't know if anybody has heard this yet but there has been another shooting in Virgina. It's not known yet if it infact is related.


Yeah, there supposed to announce soon if there is a link. This is all just really odd and freaky.







ks

Mossopp
10-10-2002, 01:50 PM
Apparently the Sniper sent a 'death' tarot card to the police with the words "I am God" written on it. It may be a hoaxer but it's still pretty scary.

Fan of old shows
10-10-2002, 05:29 PM
the person is just fooling around about the God stuff, its a real person flesh and blood.

Jimbo
10-10-2002, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by Gregorio
I don't know if anybody has heard this yet but there has been another shooting in Virgina. It's not known yet if it infact is related.

I heard this on the news also. A man was at a gas station in Manassas, Virginia (about 30 miles west of Washington, D.C.), filling his tank when he was hit by a single shot. The police are saying now that they believe this shooting is related to the others.

I've been travelling a lot recently in conjunction with my job, and just got home from Washington D.C. The entire area is gripped by fear - and it's easy to see why. There is no real pattern here as to his victims - he's just shooting people at random.

The local news stations there have been giving this story extensive coverage throughout the day - much more so than what we're hearing in other areas of the country. In one respect, I think they're giving out too much information. The newscasters keep talking about what the police are doing, what they know and don't know, what clues they are looking at, etc. You know that whoever is doing this is most likely watching these broadcasts - why give him information that would help him to cover his tracks? These TV and radio stations need to realize that there are some things that are more important than ratings.

DarleneIllyria
10-10-2002, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by Mossopp
Apparently the Sniper sent a 'death' tarot card to the police with the words "I am God" written on it. It may be a hoaxer but it's still pretty scary.


Here's what I'm comparing it to. Okay, anybody that has ever watched the Batman tv show and if you catch the Riddler episodes the Riddler always leaves a clue as to his next crime.

I'm no detective, but this sniper could strike a church next. Maybe the whole God part is meant as a clue to one of his next crimes. Most people would probably shrug it off and say that the sniper apparently thinks he/she is God. Maybe it is something heavier though.

[i]
The local news stations there have been giving this story extensive coverage throughout the day - much more so than what we're hearing in other areas of the country. In one respect, I think they're giving out too much information. The newscasters keep talking about what the police are doing, what they know and don't know, what clues they are looking at, etc. You know that whoever is doing this is most likely watching these broadcasts - why give him information that would help him to cover his tracks? These TV and radio stations need to realize that there are some things that are more important than ratings. [/B]


You would think the media would realize that. You're right. All they are after is a scoop.

Ewan's My Man
10-10-2002, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by ks




Just stay on the couch, couch-partner. Stay on the couch...
Oh, and keep Mr. Bigglesworth safe;)


*sits down on the couch and squeeze Mr. Bigglesworth* O *gets up and gets the oreos*

Mossopp
10-11-2002, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by Fan of old shows
the person is just fooling around about the God stuff, its a real person flesh and blood.

Yeah, I know. I wasn't suggesting that the tarot card was actually sent by God. What I meant was that it may have been sent by a hoaxer pretending to be the Sniper.
Something similar happened in Britain once, during the height of the Yorkshire Ripper murders. Someone claiming to be the Ripper sent notes and a tape to the police and the police thought it was real. They were so convinced that the tape was sent by the Ripper that they went down a whole new line of investigation because of it.
It turned out that the tape wasn't sent by the Ripper - it was just a hoaxer - and as a result, the police had been completely misled and more innocent people were murdered.

FOLrocks1
10-11-2002, 04:14 PM
I heard about this too. It's terrible,

Ewan's My Man
10-11-2002, 06:34 PM
He strikes again. All these major highways wtihin 70 miles of Fredericksburg, VA are like...blocked. And the police are doing a search of every car. Regular cars they're just glancing in, but white vans they're making pull over and have a thorough search. And if NE people see a white van going off an exit to get off the highways, or a person getting out of one, they're supposed to call 911 immediately. So, NEwayz, I hope some good comes out of this. Some innocent man was killed today, just getting gas.

Bootsy Whoosh
10-11-2002, 08:31 PM
This is just really bizarre, what is going on down there. I haven't been following the news much lately, but has the white van been seen at several of the crime scenes or just the one? Because if it's only been seen once or twice, it may be pretty pointless to be looking for it. I mean the sniper could probably easily change his vehicle, especially since he knows from the TV police are looking for a white van.

My local news last night (in new lows at attempts to relate national news to something local) talked about some guy around here who was doing a similar thing like in the 80s. Only this guy only shot hunters (though they were strangers). But because there was a pattern to his victims the FBI were able to put together an effective profile and they caught the guy.

Here's to hoping that s/he's caught before s/he strikes again.

Ewan's My Man
10-11-2002, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by Bootsy Whoosh
This is just really bizarre, what is going on down there. I haven't been following the news much lately, but has the white van been seen at several of the crime scenes or just the one? Because if it's only been seen once or twice, it may be pretty pointless to be looking for it. I mean the sniper could probably easily change his vehicle, especially since he knows from the TV police are looking for a white van.

My local news last night (in new lows at attempts to relate national news to something local) talked about some guy around here who was doing a similar thing like in the 80s. Only this guy only shot hunters (though they were strangers). But because there was a pattern to his victims the FBI were able to put together an effective profile and they caught the guy.

Here's to hoping that s/he's caught before s/he strikes again.

No, witnesses have been saying that they've seen white vans leaving the crime scene, including the one today.

Pitooey
10-11-2002, 09:14 PM
I would hate to be in that Washington, Virginia, Maryland area right now. This person will make a mistake soon. I just hope it happens soon.

It seems almost like the Son of Sam killings in NY in the 70's. People were scared... including me.

Janice
10-11-2002, 09:24 PM
This is the sickest situation. Those poor people. I think it's terrorism. Witnesses saw two people in the van, so it's not just a lone sicko.
I saw a terrorism expert on CNN this week say that in the Al Queida terrorism manual, there were plans for drive-by shootings. Osamo Bin Laden's henchmen are sharpshooters too. I wouldn't be surprised if these shootings start happening in other parts of the country.
World's gone crazy. I'm actually frightened.

Ewan's My Man
10-11-2002, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by JennyLee22
Maryland area right now


Yup, that's me, oh joy.

Mossopp
10-12-2002, 08:50 AM
Lately, it seems that whenever things start getting nasty, America blames it on terrorism.
There is no doubt in my mind that The Sniper is NOT a terrorist, and he has nothing to do with Bin Laden.
The Sniper is just some nutter, driven to the brink, who has decided to take his misery out on innocent citizens.
Admittedly, it's a terrible and frightening situation but it has nothing to do with Bin Laden, as the news stations have been speculating.

Bootsy Whoosh
10-12-2002, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by Mossopp
Lately, it seems that whenever things start getting nasty, America blames it on terrorism.
There is no doubt in my mind that The Sniper is NOT a terrorist, and he has nothing to do with Bin Laden.
The Sniper is just some nutter, driven to the brink, who has decided to take his misery out on innocent citizens.
Admittedly, it's a terrible and frightening situation but it has nothing to do with Bin Laden, as the news stations have been speculating.

But you see, Mossopp, war mongering heads of state need to grasp at straws for justification to drop da bomb.

There is also no doubt in my mind that this has nothing to with Al Qaida or anything like that. Those people generally take pride in their work (i.e. they brag about it), and don't usually live this long (they suicide themselves into nonexistence). Unless they have decided to drastically change their tactics, which I highly doubt.

Fan of old shows
10-12-2002, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by Mossopp
Lately, it seems that whenever things start getting nasty, America blames it on terrorism.
There is no doubt in my mind that The Sniper is NOT a terrorist, and he has nothing to do with Bin Laden.
The Sniper is just some nutter, driven to the brink, who has decided to take his misery out on innocent citizens.
Admittedly, it's a terrible and frightening situation but it has nothing to do with Bin Laden, as the news stations have been speculating.
dont think its terrorism either. there are effective ways to kill alot more people.

Janice
10-12-2002, 11:48 AM
I haven't heard the President or his administration say that they think it's terrorism. In Boston, the media isn't speculating terrorism. I watch the World News with Tom Brokaw every night, and they don't say it. Dateline, 20/20, Primetime Live, etc--I watch them all, and they're not saying it's terrorism either.
The person I saw on CNN actually said it in frustration, "Why is everyone so afraid to say this could be terrorism? We know the Al Qaida are sharpshooters, and drive-by shootings are outlined in one of their terrorist manuals."
I didn't think it could be a terrorist until witnesses confirmed there were two people in the van. It seems unlikely that two sickos would do this, although it's possible.
I know they like to take credit for their terror but maybe this time it's different. They want to terrorize the US, and it's working.
There are more effective ways to kill a lot of people, but what's happening is true psychological terror. The randomness of it is an unfathomable form of terror.
I hope I'm wrong and that it is just a couple of nuts on a rampage.

Jimbo
10-12-2002, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by Bootsy Whoosh


But you see, Mossopp, war mongering heads of state need to grasp at straws for justification to drop da bomb.

There is also no doubt in my mind that this has nothing to with Al Qaida or anything like that. Those people generally take pride in their work (i.e. they brag about it), and don't usually live this long (they suicide themselves into nonexistence). Unless they have decided to drastically change their tactics, which I highly doubt.

Bootsy, you just did what you are accussing others of doing - exploiting this situation to advance your own agenda with your "war mongering heads of state" comment. No one in a position of authority - local, state, or national - has tried to link this to Al Qaeda or Iraq. No one in the Bush administration has tried to use this horrible situation to justify military action against Iraq.

Make no mistake about it, this is terrorism. Terrorism should not be defined by the nationality of the perpetrator. When you lie in wait for some random person to come along, then gun them down in cold blood, that is terrorism. Whether the person(s) doing this come from Iraq, Afghanistan, or the United States, this is terrorism. Timothy McVeigh was just as much of a terrorist as the people who carried out the September 11th attacks.

Until they catch the person or persons responsible for these cold blooded murders, nothing can be ruled in, nothing can be ruled out.

Bootsy Whoosh
10-12-2002, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by Jimbo
Bootsy, you just did what you are accussing others of doing - exploiting this situation to advance your own agenda with your "war mongering heads of state" comment. No one in a position of authority - local, state, or national - has tried to link this to Al Qaeda or Iraq. No one in the Bush administration has tried to use this horrible situation to justify military action against Iraq.

Make no mistake about it, this is terrorism. Terrorism should not be defined by the nationality of the perpetrator. When you lie in wait for some random person to come along, then gun them down in cold blood, that is terrorism. Whether the person(s) doing this come from Iraq, Afghanistan, or the United States, this is terrorism. Timothy McVeigh was just as much of a terrorist as the people who carried out the September 11th attacks.

Until they catch the person or persons responsible for these cold blooded murders, nothing can be ruled in, nothing can be ruled out.

First of all, I bloody hate it how there is no room for a little joking around here. Get over yourself Jimbo, my statement was tongue-in-cheek. How did I know my comment would draw you into a thread you otherwise found no reason to respond to?

Second, actually a good friend of mine who lives in the DC area told me, and I quote (my friend) "Ari Fleischer said that terrorism is not the main focus, but is being considered in the investigation." [the investigation we were discussing was of course the Sniper shootings, before you try to say that comment is out of context] Now perhaps I was foolish to believe him, but as I have not been following this investigation on the news myself (as I admitted before) and as I see no reason in the world that my friend would lie, I believed him. Perhaps my friend was ill-informed, or misunderstood something, perhaps not.

Don't mince words with me over the definition of terrorism. I know what terrorism means, even though I know you just love to treat me and anyone who disagrees with you like a child. When I said I didn't think this had anything to do with terrorism, you know I meant terrorism as in al Qaeda, etc. See how I give you the benefit of the doubt about having some brains in your head? Please do the same for me.

Oh and, please see a surgeon about that stick up your ass. Then maybe you can have a little fun around here.

Jimbo
10-12-2002, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by Bootsy Whoosh


First of all, I bloody hate it how there is no room for a little joking around here. Get over yourself Jimbo, my statement was tongue-in-cheek. How did I know my comment would draw you into a thread you otherwise found no reason to respond to?

Second, actually a good friend of mine who lives in the DC area told me, and I quote (my friend) "Ari Fleischer said that terrorism is not the main focus, but is being considered in the investigation." [the investigation we were discussing was of course the Sniper shootings, before you try to say that comment is out of context] Now perhaps I was foolish to believe him, but as I have not been following this investigation on the news myself (as I admitted before) and as I see no reason in the world that my friend would lie, I believed him. Perhaps my friend was ill-informed, or misunderstood something, perhaps not.

Don't mince words with me over the definition of terrorism. I know what terrorism means, even though I know you just love to treat me and anyone who disagrees with you like a child. When I said I didn't think this had anything to do with terrorism, you know I meant terrorism as in al Qaeda, etc. See how I give you the benefit of the doubt about having some brains in your head? Please do the same for me.

Oh and, please see a surgeon about that stick up your ass. Then maybe you can have a little fun around here.

Bootsy, I think you are taking this way too personally. The first paragraph of my post - about the "war mongering" comment - was obviously directed towards you. Frankly, I don't think you meant it as a joke, and are only saying that now in an attempt to save face.

Regarding your statement that your knew your comment would "draw me into a thread that I otherwise found no reason to respond to", again you are taking things too personally. If you check, you'll see that I've previously posted comments about the sniper on this thread BEFORE your reply to Mossopp.

The remainder of my post, where I gave my opinion on the definition of terrorism was not directed at you or anyone else on this thread. I was not "treating you like a child". I was not even addressing you at that point. I was just presenting my view on what constitutes a terrorist act - that's all.

As for your friend in the D.C. area, I don't dispute what your friend is saying. I also see nothing wrong with what Ari Fleischer said. He's merely stating that, at this point, all possibilities need to be considered. With so few clues to go on, with no known motive, no discernable pattern, and no suspect yet in this case, it would be irresponsible to dismiss any possibility until more information is known, or an arrest is made. No one knows yet what we're dealing with here.

Finally, if you do not want to be treated like a child, then you should refrain from such childish statements like your "stick up the ass" cheap shot.

UpstairsSteak
10-12-2002, 07:57 PM
My heart goes out to everyone living in the area. We went through son of Sam as JennyLee22 mentioned, though I was small I remember it to this day, my aunt actually was let go from the SOS jury selection because the judge felt that she would not be able to handle the testimony/photos etc..
I work/live in NYC and was close to the WTC on Sept. 11.
That being said. IMO This is sure to be a nut, ex-military or ex-law enforcement judging by the ammo and the knowledge of the area (I have both ex-military and ex-cop in my family before I get any flack for that comment). IMO it's not even close to being a terrorist attack, not efficient enough and too smart. The need to take over an area like this is a very specific crime, not random.
Sept. 11 changed my opinion of the world but not to the point of hysteria.
All who live in the area, be safe.

Pitooey
10-12-2002, 09:13 PM
I agree with UpstairsSteak. (above)

As for now I heard that they will be showing us a composite sketch of this perpertraitor. They are thinking that maybe the Sniper lives around the Washington, Virginia, Maryland area. Also I told my hubby that this or these persons might've worked with the FBI in some capacity. (Just my speculation)

Jimbo
10-13-2002, 11:04 AM
I agree with UpstairsSteak and JennyLee22. I think that when they catch this person, we will discover that they have some type of military or law enforcement training.

The victims have all been shot from a distance, not in a face-to-face confrontation. Also, all of the victims have been killed or wounded with a single shot, rather than multiple gunshots. Whoever is doing this knows how to handle a rifle, and is a very good shot.

I just pray that they catch him (or them) before another murder can be committed.

Bootsy Whoosh
10-13-2002, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by Jimbo
Bootsy, I think you are taking this way too personally. The first paragraph of my post - about the "war mongering" comment - was obviously directed towards you. Frankly, I don't think you meant it as a joke, and are only saying that now in an attempt to save face.

Believe what you will. I'm not going to waste my time trying to convince you otherwise.

Originally posted by Jimbo
Regarding your statement that your knew your comment would "draw me into a thread that I otherwise found no reason to respond to", again you are taking things too personally. If you check, you'll see that I've previously posted comments about the sniper on this thread BEFORE your reply to Mossopp.

OK, so I forgot you had already posted. I retract my statement.

Originally posted by Jimbo
The remainder of my post, where I gave my opinion on the definition of terrorism was not directed at you or anyone else on this thread. I was not "treating you like a child". I was not even addressing you at that point. I was just presenting my view on what constitutes a terrorist act - that's all.

How was I supposed to know you were no longer addressing me?

Originally posted by Jimbo
Finally, if you do not want to be treated like a child, then you should refrain from such childish statements like your "stick up the ass" cheap shot.

First, you have treated me like a child in past posts even without me sinking to silly insults, so it doesn't really matter what I do. Second, you have been known to sink to such childish lows yourself: I seem to remember you accusing a fellow board member of being a member of the KKK, which is not only childish but highly inflammatory and insulting. At least you can just laugh and shrug off the stick in your ass comment...the same can't be said for your baseless insult.

AngelFromMontgomery
10-13-2002, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by -*Forever*-
My grammas going where the 13 year old boy was killed :( I'm scared, I don't want her to go, Vivi knows how nice she is, right Viv?

Yes! I wish she wasn't going...my brother used to live right next to where the sniper is. I hate when things like this happen, it must be such an uncomfortable feeling walking around a place where so many people got killed and the sniper hasn't been caught.

Jimbo
10-14-2002, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by Bootsy Whoosh


First, you have treated me like a child in past posts even without me sinking to silly insults, so it doesn't really matter what I do. Second, you have been known to sink to such childish lows yourself: I seem to remember you accusing a fellow board member of being a member of the KKK, which is not only childish but highly inflammatory and insulting. At least you can just laugh and shrug off the stick in your ass comment...the same can't be said for your baseless insult.

Bootsy, in the past you and I have had some strong disagreements on a number of issues. If you felt that I was treating you like a child when I was stating my side of the story, that was not my intent. We can continue to debate in the future regarding whatever. I'll try to choose my words more carefully when we do. I'm willing to try if you are.

I really take exception to the last part of your remarks. I have never accused anyone on these boards of being a member of the KKK. What you are referring to here is some of my exchanges with Kittflynn regarding Democratic Senator Robert Byrd, who WAS a member of the Klan at one time. That's not my opinion, that's not a "baseless insult", that's a fact - Senator Byrd was once a paid recruiter for the Ku Klux Klan - look it up for yourself. Kittflynn has gotten angry with me for talking about this, and has stated that Byrd is someone that he "greatly admires" (or words to that effect). I've criticized Kittflynn for continuing to support Senator Byrd, knowing Byrd's past record, but I NEVER, repeat NEVER, accused Kittflynn (or anyone else on these boards) of being a member of the Klan himself, or of having any kind of personal involvement with that dispicable organization. Get your facts straight. It's no secret that Kittflynn and I don't like each other. He and I will never agree on the subject of Senator Byrd, or a lot of other issues. Whatever else we may think of each other, I don't think Kittflynn is a racist, and have absolutely no reason to believe that he would ever involve himself with any kind of racist organization.

Bootsy Whoosh
10-15-2002, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by Jimbo
Bootsy, in the past you and I have had some strong disagreements on a number of issues. If you felt that I was treating you like a child when I was stating my side of the story, that was not my intent. We can continue to debate in the future regarding whatever. I'll try to choose my words more carefully when we do. I'm willing to try if you are.

I am willing.

Originally posted by Jimbo
I really take exception to the last part of your remarks. I have never accused anyone on these boards of being a member of the KKK. What you are referring to here is some of my exchanges with Kittflynn regarding Democratic Senator Robert Byrd, who WAS a member of the Klan at one time. That's not my opinion, that's not a "baseless insult", that's a fact - Senator Byrd was once a paid recruiter for the Ku Klux Klan - look it up for yourself. Kittflynn has gotten angry with me for talking about this, and has stated that Byrd is someone that he "greatly admires" (or words to that effect). I've criticized Kittflynn for continuing to support Senator Byrd, knowing Byrd's past record, but I NEVER, repeat NEVER, accused Kittflynn (or anyone else on these boards) of being a member of the Klan himself, or of having any kind of personal involvement with that dispicable organization. Get your facts straight. It's no secret that Kittflynn and I don't like each other. He and I will never agree on the subject of Senator Byrd, or a lot of other issues. Whatever else we may think of each other, I don't think Kittflynn is a racist, and have absolutely no reason to believe that he would ever involve himself with any kind of racist organization.

OK, upon actually looking at the archives (something I admittedly did not do before) I do see now that you did not directly accuse Kitt of being a member of the KKK. So I am sorry for accusing you of saying that. You did, however, say that Kitt was free to "defend his Klansmen friends", which while not being a direct accusation of membership, I think it is an underhanded suggestion of having some involvement/contact with the organization; or at the very least can be easily construed that way, especially by new members to the board not familiar with the people here. Perhaps you were making a tongue-in-cheek comment? I do not believe that you were intentionally accusing Kitt of seriously having Klansmen friends, or that you really think that he has any involvement with them, and that you just said that because it sounded witty, and helped to discredit the person you were debating with; but that doesn't change the fact that it is still insulting. (At least I would find it insulting, as did Kitt).

At any rate...I did feel kind of bad about bringing this all up in the first place, because what's in the past is in the past, and we've all said things here that we didn't mean, etc. So, I would like to just drop it and get back to the topic at hand. I am sorry for my previous childish insult.

Jimbo
10-15-2002, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by Bootsy Whoosh


At any rate...I did feel kind of bad about bringing this all up in the first place, because what's in the past is in the past, and we've all said things here that we didn't mean, etc. So, I would like to just drop it and get back to the topic at hand. I am sorry for my previous childish insult.

Bootsy, I'm glad to hear you say that. When I made that comment about Kittflynn "Defending his Klansman friends", that was meant as a reference to his support for Senator Byrd, which had been mentioned earlier in the thread. I can see your point, however, about how a new person might misunderstand my meaning.

I'll admit that I'm no saint, and can be pretty sarcastic at times. Usually my sarcasm is directed at the situation, but sometimes people posting comments might think I'm directing those comments at them personally. If I've given you that impression in the past, then I, too, apologize.

Despite how ugly things got this time, I do not dislike you, or bear any ill will towards you. As I said earlier, if we are on opposite sides of a topic in the future, I'll try to choose my words more carefully. I'm glad to hear that you are willing to try as well.

Artist162002
10-15-2002, 11:29 PM
I heard obviously and it is sad. This son of a bitch is insane! Did you know they said they have a vital clue to catch him/her? But just know that we should thank god for living everyday. Keep praying and just maybe God will provide more clues and will eventually lead to the sniper's capture.

Pitooey
10-16-2002, 04:40 PM
I agree Artist. They have a partial license plate so it's only a matter of time.
Also I heard that there's 2 people. one to shoot and the other driving the getaway car.

I predict by the end of this week they should have the perpertraitor or perpertraitors
arrested. Let's just hope more people don't die as a result.

ks
10-16-2002, 06:24 PM
I personally think the Sniper will lay low for a while and let things cool down, because it's obvious they're on the dudes tail, or at least they're leading us to believe that. I'm not sure he/she will be caught anytime soon, and I wouldn't be surprised if he dissappears and then majesticaly reappers in a couple weeks, perhaps in a different area. However, the thoughts going through his/her head must be that of a messed up brilliance, because so far so good for him...it actually fascinates me yet frightens the daylights out of me.







ks