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TVFactFan
09-29-2002, 09:44 AM
Whem Ms. Garret left the FOL, that should have been the end of the show. Why go on? It wasn't like the show was ever in the top 10 or 15. Plus by that time, all the girls were grown women. So why bring in a replacement for Ms. Garret when the girls wasn't young anymore. The years the show was on the air after Ms. Garret left was a waste.

*Melissa*
09-29-2002, 09:56 AM
I agree. After all, it was Mrs. Garrett's show to a point. When they made the Facts of Life as a spinoff, Mrs. Garrett was supposed to be the star since she was on Diff'rent Strokes. Of course, as the show grew, the rest of the girls got equal billing as the show's stars. But still, Mrs. Garrett was a major part of the show. I definitley think they shouldn't have brought in a replacement for Mrs. G. As you said, the girls were grown women by that time and probably didn't need someone to babysit them anymore. I did enjoy a few of the episodes after the Mrs. G years, but IMO the Mrs. G years were more enjoyable.

TVFactFan
09-29-2002, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by Slayer Faith
I agree. After all, it was Mrs. Garrett's show to a point. When they made the Facts of Life as a spinoff, Mrs. Garrett was supposed to be the star since she was on Diff'rent Strokes. Of course, as the show grew, the rest of the girls got equal billing as the show's stars. But still, Mrs. Garrett was a major part of the show. I definitley think they shouldn't have brought in a replacement for Mrs. G. As you said, the girls were grown women by that time and probably didn't need someone to babysit them anymore. I did enjoy a few of the episodes after the Mrs. G years, but IMO the Mrs. G years were more enjoyable.


I personally never watched an entire episode after Ms. Garret left-probably because there were more characters added to the FOL along with the lady who Beverly Ann

Kay Scarpetta
09-29-2002, 10:41 AM
I never even liked B.A......

TVFactFan
09-29-2002, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by Kay Scarpetta
I never even liked B.A......

I know B.A did suck-i just don't think a show who has a main character for 7 years, should be replaced-Ms. Garret was a main character for so many years and it would have been impossible to get used to another person.

MrsGarrettRocksMySocks
09-29-2002, 02:23 PM
amen! lol...well, ya know...

They should've just offered to write Mrs. G out of some episodes so Charlotte would've had time to do other stuff besides FOL... Then, they could've kept Mrs. Garrett, she just wouldn't have been in every episode...maybe the show would've lasted LONGER than nine seasons...hm...well, I guess we'll never know...


BTw, I agree with all of you, B.A. sucked!!

TVFactFan
09-29-2002, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by Charlotte Rae Fan
amen! lol...well, ya know...

They should've just offered to write Mrs. G out of some episodes so Charlotte would've had time to do other stuff besides FOL... Then, they could've kept Mrs. Garrett, she just wouldn't have been in every episode...maybe the show would've lasted LONGER than nine seasons...hm...well, I guess we'll never know...


BTw, I agree with all of you, B.A. sucked!!

I think the episodes without Ms. Garret should not be shown in syndication.

*Melissa*
09-29-2002, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by SOLOMON


I think the episodes without Ms. Garret should not be shown in syndication.

Well, Hallmark seems to be pro-B.A (they didn't even mention poor Mrs. G. on their site), so I doubt that will happen. Some of the B.A episodes are OK, like "Seven Little Indians," so I like to see them air the B.A episodes every once in awhile. When Nick-at-Nite had the show, they stuck to the Mrs. G. episodes after awhile.

TVFactFan
09-29-2002, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by Slayer Faith


Well, Hallmark seems to be pro-B.A (they didn't even mention poor Mrs. G. on their site), so I doubt that will happen. Some of the B.A episodes are OK, like "Seven Little Indians," so I like to see them air the B.A episodes every once in awhile. When Nick-at-Nite had the show, they stuck to the Mrs. G. episodes after awhile.

N@N made a good choice by only showing the pre B.A episodes

DarleneIllyria
09-29-2002, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by SOLOMON


I think the episodes without Ms. Garret should not be shown in syndication.

I disagree with that. If they didn't show the Beverly Ann episodes, we would all complain about them not showing them.

I can't honestly speak about the B. A years because I haven't seen any of the B. A episodes. Let's do a comparison: Happy Days and FOL. Happy Days rocked during the Ron Howard years, but then when he left it all went down the toilet. That's a prime example of a show that should've folded the cards when Ron pulled out. We had all these cast changes in the show (mainly crappy characters too). Then we have FOL, Charlotte Rae left. She was the main actress, but they continued on w/o her. If we had Kim Fields and Nancy McKeon leaving the show with CR, then I would say it was time to fold the show. Lisa and Mindy are wonderful actresses, but they would try that add more characters crap like HD did and the show would become a total joke.

I know what everybody is thinking that FOL did add some crappy characters sometimes. The Kelly character is a prime example. Do we have any Kelly fans in here? I'm sure we have some that thinks Andy was a totally useless character, but I kind of like the kid. He brought some flavor to the show. We may have some that think the George character sucked. Personally, I liked the George and Andy characters. I won't go into the Pippa or B. A characters because I haven't seen any episodes with them in it. jmo

TVFactFan
09-29-2002, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by Jenny


I disagree with that. If they didn't show the Beverly Ann episodes, we would all complain about them not showing them.

I can't honestly speak about the B. A years because I haven't seen any of the B. A episodes. Let's do a comparison: Happy Days and FOL. Happy Days rocked during the Ron Howard years, but then when he left it all went down the toilet. That's a prime example of a show that should've folded the cards when Ron pulled out. We had all these cast changes in the show (mainly crappy characters too). Then we have FOL, Charlotte Rae left. She was the main actress, but they continued on w/o her. If we had Kim Fields and Nancy McKeon leaving the show with CR, then I would say it was time to fold the show. Lisa and Mindy are wonderful actresses, but they would try that add more characters crap like HD did and the show would become a total joke.

I know what everybody is thinking that FOL did add some crappy characters sometimes. The Kelly character is a prime example. Do we have any Kelly fans in here? I'm sure we have some that thinks Andy was a totally useless character, but I kind of like the kid. He brought some flavor to the show. We may have some that think the George character sucked. Personally, I liked the George and Andy characters. I won't go into the Pippa or B. A characters because I haven't seen any episodes with them in it. jmo

So after Ms. Garret left, besides Andy and Beverly Ann, who else was added to the show?

jayman75
09-29-2002, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by SOLOMON


I know B.A did suck-i just don't think a show who has a main character for 7 years, should be replaced-Ms. Garret was a main character for so many years and it would have been impossible to get used to another person.

I'm so tired of everyone griping about Beverly Ann. First of all, Cloris Leachman was put into a very difficult position -- replacing a character that was a center to the rest of the show. I'm sure she didn't just walk in and feel like a part of the series. She is quite an accomplished actress, for those of you who don't know.

Second -- in replacing Mrs G, they had to make Beverly Ann different. If she was the same as Mrs. G (mannerisms, views, background, etc), then everyone would have said that. Then, it would have looked REALLY bad because it would have said to viewers, critics, etc that the writers sucked so bad that they couldn't come up with another type of character.

Third -- the girls may have been "grown up," but you're never too old for advice. These four women were going to college, going into the "real world," getting married, etc etc. Their parents weren't the stars of the show -- Mrs G was -- a woman who helped them figure things out. That was the point of the show -- advice. Who would they get advice from once Mrs G left, GEORGE??

Yes, FOL did Jump the Shark when Mrs G left, but get over it people. If you don't like those last two seasons, you would have lost two other seasons of FOL. That would have pulled it from being one of the longest running sitcoms in history. That would have given us two less years of Jo, Blair, Natalie, and Tootie. That would have also taken away from the powerful Saturday night lineup that NBC had. So, just appreciate the fact that they were able to continue as long as they did. The show ran longer than All in the Family, Golden Girls, The Jeffersons and several other popular series.


It deserves a lot more respect than "Beverly Ann sucked."

DarleneIllyria
09-29-2002, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by SOLOMON


So after Ms. Garret left, besides Andy and Beverly Ann, who else was added to the show?

Andy was added before Mrs. Garrett left.

TVFactFan
09-29-2002, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by Jenny


Andy was added before Mrs. Garrett left.


Who else was added along with Beverly Ann?

KimFieldsFan637
09-29-2002, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by jayman75


I'm so tired of everyone griping about Beverly Ann. First of all, Cloris Leachman was put into a very difficult position -- replacing a character that was a center to the rest of the show. I'm sure she didn't just walk in and feel like a part of the series. She is quite an accomplished actress, for those of you who don't know.

Second -- in replacing Mrs G, they had to make Beverly Ann different. If she was the same as Mrs. G (mannerisms, views, background, etc), then everyone would have said that. Then, it would have looked REALLY bad because it would have said to viewers, critics, etc that the writers sucked so bad that they couldn't come up with another type of character.

Third -- the girls may have been "grown up," but you're never too old for advice. These four women were going to college, going into the "real world," getting married, etc etc. Their parents weren't the stars of the show -- Mrs G was -- a woman who helped them figure things out. That was the point of the show -- advice. Who would they get advice from once Mrs G left, GEORGE??

Yes, FOL did Jump the Shark when Mrs G left, but get over it people. If you don't like those last two seasons, you would have lost two other seasons of FOL. That would have pulled it from being one of the longest running sitcoms in history. That would have given us two less years of Jo, Blair, Natalie, and Tootie. That would have also taken away from the powerful Saturday night lineup that NBC had. So, just appreciate the fact that they were able to continue as long as they did. The show ran longer than All in the Family, Golden Girls, The Jeffersons and several other popular series.


It deserves a lot more respect than "Beverly Ann sucked."

Yeah, I have to agree. True the show wasn't the same without Mrs. Garrett and I'm sure everyone would of loved her to stay, but Cloris Leachman shouldn't be put down because of a decision that Charlotte Rae made. It's not like they kicked Charlotte Rae out of the show because they wanted to replace her with Cloris Leachman, this was her decision. I give Cloris a lot of credit for taking the character of Beverly Ann, I'm sure she knew that their were a lot of Mrs. Garrett fans out there, but someone had to be there for the girls! All I'm trying to say is either way Charlotte Rae would of left, if Cloris Leachman would be added as Beverly Ann or not...

KimFieldsFan637
09-29-2002, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by SOLOMON



Who else was added along with Beverly Ann?

Pippa was added later and so was that guy that worked at the homeless place - unless that was before Mrs. G left...

MrsGarrettRocksMySocks
09-29-2002, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by jayman75


I'm so tired of everyone griping about Beverly Ann. First of all, Cloris Leachman was put into a very difficult position -- replacing a character that was a center to the rest of the show. I'm sure she didn't just walk in and feel like a part of the series. She is quite an accomplished actress, for those of you who don't know.

Second -- in replacing Mrs G, they had to make Beverly Ann different. If she was the same as Mrs. G (mannerisms, views, background, etc), then everyone would have said that. Then, it would have looked REALLY bad because it would have said to viewers, critics, etc that the writers sucked so bad that they couldn't come up with another type of character.

Third -- the girls may have been "grown up," but you're never too old for advice. These four women were going to college, going into the "real world," getting married, etc etc. Their parents weren't the stars of the show -- Mrs G was -- a woman who helped them figure things out. That was the point of the show -- advice. Who would they get advice from once Mrs G left, GEORGE??
So, just appreciate the fact that they were able to continue as long as they did. The show ran longer than All in the Family, Golden Girls, The Jeffersons and several other popular series.


It deserves a lot more respect than "Beverly Ann sucked."

okay, I totally agree that Cloris Leachman was put in a tight spot, and I have no doubt that she is a wonderful actress to be able to portray B.A....however, I have to say, that by saying B.A. sucked, I don't think anyone means disrespect to the show by saying that, just that they dont' like the character. At least, I know I didn't. I would never mean any disrespect toward the show, even in the seasons I don't like.
Yes, I am particularly glad that it lasted longer than other popular series. However, my thought(and maybe I wasn't clear in expressing it) is that, they should've done more to convince Charlotte to stay. From what I hear(although I've heard many different reasons this is the most popular) Charlotte wanted to leave the show so she could do other projects, and my thought was, that if they maybe offered to have her appear in less episodes, and yet, still be on the show. Personally, I would've been happy if she had made an appearance or something after she had left...but, whatever.
Also, I agree about the fact that you're never too old for advice, which is also another reason for the above paragraph...^^
I think, that, as far as 'creating a new character' goes...if they REALLY had to, as talented as they were, I THINK they could've come up with a better character. That's just my opinion, but, I really get annoyed by B.A.

fr00ti
09-29-2002, 06:33 PM
You know what? I like beverly ann. I mean come on, shoot at me all you want. I happen to like Cloris Leachman alot and i think shes freaking hillarious. The show DID NOT go downhill when Beverly Ann showed up. I have nothing against Mrs. Garrett, I mean shes wicked awesome too. If there was no Mrs. Garrett, there would have been no Facts. Even though Jo is my fav, I still accepted that beverly ann came along. A sitcom needs to change, otherwise, it would be REALLY boring. I mean come on. Mrs. G was runnin out of advice and she would miss like three episodes in a row because she was on "vacation". Come on. She had to go sometime. thank you very much.

Beverly Ann was not when the show "jumped the shark." It jumped the shark when Jo became girly. lol.:)

Czas na Zywiec
09-29-2002, 07:10 PM
Originally posted by jayman75
The Jeffersons

The Jeffersons ran 10 seasons. Not being mean, just correcting. ;) It ran from 1975 - 1985.

TVFactFan
09-29-2002, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by NaNcYs_LiL_SHaDoW
You know what? I like beverly ann. I mean come on, shoot at me all you want. I happen to like Cloris Leachman alot and i think shes freaking hillarious. The show DID NOT go downhill when Beverly Ann showed up. I have nothing against Mrs. Garrett, I mean shes wicked awesome too. If there was no Mrs. Garrett, there would have been no Facts. Even though Jo is my fav, I still accepted that beverly ann came along. A sitcom needs to change, otherwise, it would be REALLY boring. I mean come on. Mrs. G was runnin out of advice and she would miss like three episodes in a row because she was on "vacation". Come on. She had to go sometime. thank you very much.

Beverly Ann was not when the show "jumped the shark." It jumped the shark when Jo became girly. lol.:)



The show really jumped the shark when they replace charlotte rae-also when the girls became grown women

Cloris Leachman Fan
09-29-2002, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by jayman75


I'm so tired of everyone griping about Beverly Ann. First of all, Cloris Leachman was put into a very difficult position -- replacing a character that was a center to the rest of the show. I'm sure she didn't just walk in and feel like a part of the series. She is quite an accomplished actress, for those of you who don't know.

Second -- in replacing Mrs G, they had to make Beverly Ann different. If she was the same as Mrs. G (mannerisms, views, background, etc), then everyone would have said that. Then, it would have looked REALLY bad because it would have said to viewers, critics, etc that the writers sucked so bad that they couldn't come up with another type of character.

Third -- the girls may have been "grown up," but you're never too old for advice. These four women were going to college, going into the "real world," getting married, etc etc. Their parents weren't the stars of the show -- Mrs G was -- a woman who helped them figure things out. That was the point of the show -- advice. Who would they get advice from once Mrs G left, GEORGE??

Yes, FOL did Jump the Shark when Mrs G left, but get over it people. If you don't like those last two seasons, you would have lost two other seasons of FOL. That would have pulled it from being one of the longest running sitcoms in history. That would have given us two less years of Jo, Blair, Natalie, and Tootie. That would have also taken away from the powerful Saturday night lineup that NBC had. So, just appreciate the fact that they were able to continue as long as they did. The show ran longer than All in the Family, Golden Girls, The Jeffersons and several other popular series.


It deserves a lot more respect than "Beverly Ann sucked."


I agree. I don't think half these members are fans of FOL to hate the show just because they added a person who annoyed them, its no reason to hate a show. I loved Cloris as Beverly Ann it was like seeing Phyllis again and I enjoyed that. The show didn't go down hill after Beverly was added because it lasted 2 more years and made another TV movie so it must of done a little good for NBC to do that. I am tired of you members ragging on Beverly Ann, she was funny, and wasn't the worse addition to the show.

Cloris Leachman Fan
09-29-2002, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by Slayer Faith


Well, Hallmark seems to be pro-B.A (they didn't even mention poor Mrs. G. on their site

I'm glad a station FINALLY recognizes that Cloris Leachman was apart of the show, because I don't think any other station did. Cloris did her best on FOL and I'm glad that Hallmark acknowledges it. GO CLORIS!!!!!!!! :D

Cloris Leachman Fan
09-29-2002, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by SOLOMON


I think the episodes without Ms. Garret should not be shown in syndication.

Wow I always thought the episodes with Mrs. Garret shouldn't be shown in syndication, except for maybe seasons 2 & 7. Once when 3rd season came,Mrs. Garrets character went down hill. I'm glad they took her out of that dumb girls school and gave her a life of her own.

Cloris Leachman Fan
09-29-2002, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by Charlotte Rae Fan
Personally, I would've been happy if she had made an appearance or something after she had left...but, whatever.

I agree that she could have atleast came back for the finale or an episode because she did with DS. When Mr. Drummond & Maggie were getting married Charlotte was in the episode I don't get why she just dumped her own show, her action was stupid imo. Like you say over and over this was her show she could have atleast finished it, but no she wanted out, I don't even think she did anything after she left FOL in 1986 did she?

Juss Like Jo Po
09-29-2002, 09:25 PM
Yea the show deff wasnt as good after mrs. g left..n i wished that she woulda came back to do the season fianle...but beverly ann was good though...i liked her at least..n i think charlotte rae was in a couple of plays after she left FOL..but im not 100% sure

¤I Love Clay Aiken¤
09-29-2002, 09:38 PM
I agree with Jenny with the Happy Days and FOL comparisons.
FOL was a spinoff created for Charlotte, so when she left it was like *Well, wait..if its HER show and she left, why is it still on?* However, I love old sitcoms and will watch every episode, whether its Mrs.G or that BA chick.
Same with Happy Days. Im more of a Happy Days fan (Ok, I confess, Im OBSESSED) and Ron Howard, now matter how popular Henry/Fonzie became was always THE star of the show and always got top billing. So when he left, it sucked. And, UGH, replacing him with Roger (Ted McGinnley *SP*) was horrid!

MrsGarrettRocksMySocks
09-29-2002, 09:42 PM
Originally posted by Cloris Leachman Fan


I agree that she could have atleast came back for the finale or an episode because she did with DS. When Mr. Drummond & Maggie were getting married Charlotte was in the episode I don't get why she just dumped her own show, her action was stupid imo. Like you say over and over this was her show she could have atleast finished it, but no she wanted out, I don't even think she did anything after she left FOL in 1986 did she?

oooooo, wait a minute....no...

ok, I appreciate your opinion on her acting, however, I an inclined to disagree...

for one thing....yes, Charlotte did A LOT after TFOL...check www.imdb.com for one, RIGHT AFTER FOL, she did "The Worst Witch," of course, there was..."Tom and Jerry: The Movie, " "Save the Dog," "101 Dalmations: the TV. Series," "Wally Koala and Friends," "Wally Koala and the Little Green Peach,"(those two Wally Koala things were actually Narrations and voices for characters, so they aren't on IMDB, but, she did those too) She was on a BUNCH of tv shows after that, and she's been doing A LOT of Broadway and stage in L.A. And that's just to name a few...Ok, now, I may not be an expert on this, but, I'd say, just what I've mentioned is A LOT more than NOTHING...

I have no problem...well, actually it's not exactly joy for me, that you say you dont' like Mrs. Garrett...ok, whatever, but I'll bet, you've never seen or heard anything else that Char's ever done. So you really have no clue of her acting potential.

And, ya know what? Something I've never understood...people try to analyze why Charlotte wanted out and insult her saying, "her acting was stupid" and "I never liked Mrs. G anyway"ya know, stuff like that, well, big deal she wanted out, you're such a big Beverly Ann fan, why do you care? If she watned out and they brought B.A. in, why should it matter to you why she left the show??? Just a question...this whole post...feel free to ignore it, if you want, but you know I'm right in some of it...I think I'm right in all of it, but, some of it, yes, is my opinion, and I don't expect everyone to share my opinion, but, some of it fact, and you know I'm right...

Cloris Leachman Fan
09-29-2002, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by Charlotte Rae Fan
And, ya know what? Something I've never understood...people try to analyze why Charlotte wanted out and insult her saying, "her acting was stupid" and "I never liked Mrs. G anyway"ya know, stuff like that, well, big deal she wanted out, you're such a big Beverly Ann fan, why do you care? If she watned out and they brought B.A. in, why should it matter to you why she left the show???


I was just expressing my opinion on Mrs. Garrett like you do on Beverly Ann. So are you saying its ok for you to post about Beverly Ann but I can't post about Mrs. Garrett? :rolleyes: Also I didn't call Charlottes acting stupid, just what she did, leaving her own show, was a dumb move. She is very popular as Mrs. Garrett she should have stayed until it ended imo. Charlotte will only be remembered as Mrs. Garrett and she just dumped that role, dumped her own show. Its weird for an actor to do that imo.

Cloris Leachman Fan
09-29-2002, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by Charlotte Rae Fan
I have no problem...well, actually it's not exactly joy for me, that you say you dont' like Mrs. Garrett...ok, whatever, but I'll bet, you've never seen or heard anything else that Char's ever done. So you really have no clue of her acting potential.

Wait am I saying I hate Mrs. Garrett? If so, scratch that, I like her just not in seasons 3, 4, 5, and 6. They toned her character down to much. I loved the free funny Mrs. Garrett. Also you are WRONG I have seen Charlotte in other things like Another Womans Husband, her guest appearance in Can't Hurry Love and thats it. She hasn't starred in a lot of good things. Charlottes acting is fine ok.

I just don't like it when you put Beverly Ann down because Cloris did her best job playing her. She tried to get fans to like her, and most of them do and most of them don't. When people put Beverly Ann down its like they are putting Cloris down and I like Cloris, shes a funny actress. Charlotte is a funny actress to, I liked her in DS.

DarleneIllyria
09-29-2002, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by Cloris Leachman Fan



Also I didn't call Charlottes acting stupid, just what she did, leaving her own show, was a dumb move. She is very popular as Mrs. Garrett she should have stayed until it ended imo.


Off topic


What about Andy Griffith? He was on 8 seasons of 'The Andy Griffith Show' and he decided to leave the Andy Taylor character behind. That's why we got stuck with Mayberry R.F.D. Andy did some behind the scenes stuff on Mayberry R.F.D and made a few guest shots on Mayberry.

He was just tired of the routine I suppose. I guess Charlotte felt the same way. After awhile, it doesn't seem as fun. Case in point, look at the early episodes of The Andy Griffith Show. Andy always seemed happy. You could tell he was enjoying the character and the show. Look at the first color season of TAGS, notice how Andy got in a pissy mood like 99.9 % of the time. Jesus, all he did was yell anymore. He yelled at Opie all the time. He just yelled at everybody.

I would've rather had Charlotte leave the show if she was tired of it, instead of hanging around and making Mrs. G get in a pissy mood and start yelling at everybody. jmo again

*Melissa*
09-30-2002, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by jayman75


I'm so tired of everyone griping about Beverly Ann. First of all, Cloris Leachman was put into a very difficult position -- replacing a character that was a center to the rest of the show. I'm sure she didn't just walk in and feel like a part of the series. She is quite an accomplished actress, for those of you who don't know.



I don't have anything against Cloris Leachman. I loved her in The Mary Tyler Moore Show and Young Frankenstien, and I know that she is an accomplished actress. I think she is a great actress and deserves respect.

However, I did not much care for her character in FOL. I think the idea of B.A wasn't the best one the writers ever had, and I think the show could have gone on without her character. But that has nothing to do with Cloris Leachman. I don't think I would have liked B.A. no matter who played her. I hold nothing against Ms. Leachman for her role in FOL. I understand it was hard for her to come into a show like that, and I respect her ability to do so. I just believe, in my opinion, that the B.A. character was an unneccessary addition to the show.

MrsGarrettRocksMySocks
09-30-2002, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by Cloris Leachman Fan


Wait am I saying I hate Mrs. Garrett? If so, scratch that, I like her just not in seasons 3, 4, 5, and 6. They toned her character down to much. I loved the free funny Mrs. Garrett. Also you are WRONG I have seen Charlotte in other things like Another Womans Husband, her guest appearance in Can't Hurry Love and thats it. She hasn't starred in a lot of good things. Charlottes acting is fine ok.

I just don't like it when you put Beverly Ann down because Cloris did her best job playing her. She tried to get fans to like her, and most of them do and most of them don't. When people put Beverly Ann down its like they are putting Cloris down and I like Cloris, shes a funny actress. Charlotte is a funny actress to, I liked her in DS.


ok, check my post again, because I realized that I read your post wrong, and I edited it....ok?? That may change some of this right here...sooo, I apologize if you got in a huge hissy fight for nothing...

ALSO, if you can't see the difference between the actress and the character, you really need to. Someone putting down Beverly Ann, isn't the same as putting down Cloris Leachman... As a matter of fact, I have said, and will say again, that Cloris Leachman is a very talented actress....it's simply the CHARACTER of Beverly Ann that I don't like. I agree that she probably did do her best to try to make people like her, but, her acting, and the script she has to stick to, is totally different...well, I mean, the script, what Beverly Ann said, was really what made her...Beverly Ann...and I don't really think Cloris Leachman could've changed that...

MrsGarrettRocksMySocks
09-30-2002, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by Cloris Leachman Fan



I was just expressing my opinion on Mrs. Garrett like you do on Beverly Ann. So are you saying its ok for you to post about Beverly Ann but I can't post about Mrs. Garrett? :rolleyes: Also I didn't call Charlottes acting stupid, just what she did, leaving her own show, was a dumb move. She is very popular as Mrs. Garrett she should have stayed until it ended imo. Charlotte will only be remembered as Mrs. Garrett and she just dumped that role, dumped her own show. Its weird for an actor to do that imo.

ooooooook....I didn't say anything like, "You shouldn't be giving us your opinions!" or anything like that, so I don't know where you got the impression that I was saying you can't post things about Mrs. Garrett...I was also, just, posting my opnion. and, I didn't say YOU called Charlotte's acting stupid (although that is at first, how I read it, a friend pointed something out to me...Thanks Lauren) I said SOME PEOPLE...does that mean you? well, not nessicarily...unless maybe you've said it before...but, I didn't say you said it...
Also, I think it was a smart move for Charlotte to leave the show....eh....well...yea...as much as I hated it...smart move...the writers were being morons and writing her out, A LOT...Have you seen season 7 episodes?? Man that sucked...I mean, she was barely there at all... so, imo...yea, it was a smart move for her to leave when she did, and still be remembered as the wonderful Mrs. Garrett(by MOST viewers...not...ALL) than stay on and have her character dwindle down to practically nothing and have people remember Mrs. Garrett worse than she really was...I dunno if you understand that or not, but, whatever....I tried...

*Melissa*
09-30-2002, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by Charlotte Rae Fan


Also, I think it was a smart move for Charlotte to leave the show....eh....well...yea...as much as I hated it...smart move...the writers were being morons and writing her out, A LOT...Have you seen season 7 episodes?? Man that sucked...I mean, she was barely there at all... so, imo...yea, it was a smart move for her to leave when she did, and still be remembered as the wonderful Mrs. Garrett(by MOST viewers...not...ALL) than stay on and have her character dwindle down to practically nothing and have people remember Mrs. Garrett worse than she really was...I dunno if you understand that or not, but, whatever....I tried...

I know what you mean. They did like to play around with her character in the later seasons. I can see why she wanted to leave. If the show would have ended when she left, it would have made a fitting ending IMO. I think Mrs. Garrett getting married would have been a more suitable ending than the rushed ending that FOL had instead.

Gemini_89
04-04-2016, 04:56 PM
Didn't Charlotte leave the show because of health reasons?

I don't think that they should have ended the show once she left, the show wouldn't be the longest running FEMALE sitcom in history if that happened.

'80sSitcoms
04-05-2016, 08:49 AM
Didn't Charlotte leave the show because of health reasons?

Partially, but she was also so hurt that by this point they had not been writing Mrs. Garrett for a long time (in season 6 she was crying a lot at the show; she mentions this in her new book).

Gemini_89
04-05-2016, 09:53 AM
Partially, but she was also so hurt that by this point they had not been writing Mrs. Garrett for a long time (in season 6 she was crying a lot at the show; she mentions this in her new book).

Awwwww, that's sad!

JR1
04-07-2016, 04:43 PM
Prior to leaving, Charlotte had missed some episodes of FOL, so she'd already done that. She just felt it was time to go. Of course, the show wasn't the same- heck, it wasn't even quite the same once the girls matured and we saw less of Mrs. G - but there were many good years of Mrs. G. and the girls.