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The Walt Disney Company has removed (https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/the-walt-disney-company-removes-all-channels-from-spectrum-espn-disney-channel-fx-abc-locals-all-gone.5369781/) their programming (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/espn-abc-pulled-charter-spectrum-carriage-dispute-1235579642/) from Spectrum (https://www.newsobserver.com/entertainment/tv-movies/warm-tv-blog/article278845749.html#:~:text=Disney%20networks%20went%20dark%20on,Geographic%20and%20many%20other%20networks.). Spectrum is on your side and fighting hard to resolve this situation (https://awfulannouncing.com/espn/spectrum-disney-carriage-dispute.html) and keep costs down while protecting and maximizing customer choice. We apologize for the inconvenience.

I can't believe I find myself on the side of a cable company, but Spectrum is absolutely right about this. It's a national disgrace that Congress hasn't stepped in and passed a comprehensive fair pricing act that would require the unbundling of cable channels and separate pricing for each channel. A cable company in turn would be required to offer the channels on an a la carte basis, the company could also bundle the services at a discount
as part of a package. No over the air channel should ever have been permitted to be packaged with cable channels, the FCC should step in and address that immediately.

The concessions made to the professional sports leagues are sickening. For example, In New York the cost of YES network is $6 dollars per subscriber. Suppose an individual has no interest in the Yankees, why should they be forced to subsidize them. I'm glad Spectrum is starting this war, Congress should be legislating all this away rather than standing on the sideline.

A coworker brought this to my attention this morning. He was upset because he tried watching a college football game last night. He called up Spectrum to complain and got a 15 rebate for being inconvenienced.

Yeah I saw that last night. F*ck Walt Disney Company.

I can't believe I find myself on the side of a cable company, but Spectrum is absolutely right about this. It's a national disgrace that Congress hasn't stepped in and passed a comprehensive fair pricing act that would require the unbundling of cable channels and separate pricing for each channel. I'm glad Spectrum is starting this war, Congress should be legislating all this away rather than standing on the sideline.

Congress is voted in by the American public, so it's not a question of Congress sidelining, but Americans voting against their best interests or not making enough of a stink when things like this happen. Americans slept walked as companies got bigger. Why should Congress do anything when their voters act as if they don't care what happens?

I wasn’t happy about The Walt Disney Company pulling its own channels from the Spectrum but Disney Owned Channels like ABC, The Disney Channel and ESPN deserves better. Walt Disney must somewhere rolling at his grave.

The only thing on Disney I watch is MNF on ESPN. Disney can go and jump in the lake.

I wasn’t happy about The Walt Disney Company pulling its own channels from the Spectrum but Disney Owned Channels like ABC, The Disney Channel and ESPN deserves better. Walt Disney must somewhere rolling at his grave.

I don't think he would, though. Disney was always a money-grubbing company. Mad Magazine did a parody of Disneyland back in the 1950s making fun of Walt Disney and all this ventures as cash-grabbing, and that was back in 1956. Also, remember that he famously fired the animators who had made his company what it was and later suggested that the only reason why they went on strike was because of Communists (https://cronkitehhh.jmc.asu.edu/blog/2012/12/disney-and-the-1941-animators-strike/).

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A coworker brought this to my attention this morning. He was upset because he tried watching a college football game last night. He called up Spectrum to complain and got a 15 rebate for being inconvenienced.

Fans irate as ESPN goes dark on Spectrum at Utah-Florida kickoff (https://awfulannouncing.com/espn/spectrum-carriage-dispute-utah-florida.html)

Disney/ESPN content (https://www.reddit.com/r/television/comments/166s8ss/disney_channels_including_espn_could_go_dark_on/) went dark (https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/the-walt-disney-company-removes-all-channels-from-spectrum-espn-disney-channel-fx-abc-locals-all-gone.5369781/) on Spectrum (https://awfulannouncing.com/espn/spectrum-disney-carriage-dispute.html) right at the worst (https://www.resetera.com/threads/disney-pulls-abc-espn-fx-channels-from-charter-spectrum-cable.759831/index.php?pages/faq/) possible time (https://www.radiodiscussions.com/threads/the-programming-disputes-thread.688781/page-81#post-6645891), coinciding with the start of the Utah-Florida game.

At various times, many cable companies are at war with program providers over money. It's like two people you hate having a fight. You root for both to lose.

I can't believe I find myself on the side of a cable company, but Spectrum is absolutely right about this. It's a national disgrace that Congress hasn't stepped in and passed a comprehensive fair pricing act that would require the unbundling of cable channels and separate pricing for each channel. A cable company in turn would be required to offer the channels on an a la carte basis, the company could also bundle the services at a discount
as part of a package. No over the air channel should ever have been permitted to be packaged with cable channels, the FCC should step in and address that immediately.

The concessions made to the professional sports leagues are sickening. For example, In New York the cost of YES network is $6 dollars per subscriber. Suppose an individual has no interest in the Yankees, why should they be forced to subsidize them. I'm glad Spectrum is starting this war, Congress should be legislating all this away rather than standing on the sideline.

Spectrum Charter Says Cable TV Isn’t Working (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/01/business/charter-disney-cable-fight.html)

One of the biggest cable companies in the United States has a message for media companies, its major partners in a decades-old business: The traditional cable-TV model is broken, and it needs to be fixed or abandoned.

Cable TV has become too expensive for consumers and providers, Charter Communications said in an 11-page presentation to investors Friday, adding that cord-cutters and rising fees are contributing to a “vicious video cycle.”

The presentation comes amid negotiations between Charter and The Walt Disney Co., owner of popular cable channels including ESPN and FX, which will not be available to Charter’s nearly 15 million pay-TV subscribers until both sides agree on how much Charter will pay Disney to carry its channels. Subscribers to Charter’s Spectrum TV service will be without access to the U.S. Open tennis tournament and college football games during a holiday weekend.

These so-called carriage fights are commonplace in the media industry, with channels going dark for days or weeks on cable systems while the two sides — cable providers and content creators — haggle over how much the channels are worth and how to bundle them. But Charter’s suggestion that parts of its own business model are in disrepair adds a new wrinkle to the crisis facing the cable-TV business.

The fight comes at a time of declining subscriptions: More than 5 million Americans end their cable-TV subscriptions annually, according to research from SVB MoffettNathanson.

Almost every traditional media company is trying to hold on to its cash-rich cable partnerships while building streaming businesses that will eventually replace those alliances. But investors in traditional media companies have also grown impatient with attempts to build new streaming businesses, saying they are not as profitable as cable TV used to be.

The pressure is forcing traditional media companies to wring cash from their businesses in other ways, including teaming up with competitors to bundle their streaming services.

Adding to the challenges, tech companies like Apple and Amazon are willing to pay top dollar to acquire live sports rights, further driving up programming costs. Cable companies, for their part, have weaned themselves off depending wholly on traditional TV revenue, by offering services like wireless internet.

But in trying to negotiate with Disney for a better deal, Charter’s presentation goes a step further, delivering a scathing indictment of the cable television industry, which has generated billions of dollars for companies like itself and Disney for decades. It’s a notable acknowledgment from Charter, one of the companies that propelled much of that growth.

“Customers are leaving the traditional video ecosystem, and losses have accelerated,” according to Charter’s presentation.

“Has the traditional TV ecosystem reached its proverbial tipping point?” said Richard Greenfield, a media analyst for LightShed Partners. “If ESPN is permanently gone from Charter, there will be a massive snowball effect that is catastrophic for traditional TV companies.”

Disney fired back at Charter on Friday, saying that the cable giant had rejected a deal that reflected “market-based terms” and that Disney had proposed creative ways to make its streaming apps available to Charter’s cable subscribers. Disney said its offer to Charter had included its “most favorable terms” on rates, distribution, packaging and advertising.

“Charter’s actions are a disservice to consumers ahead of the kickoff for the college football season on ABC and ESPN’s networks,” Disney said in its statement.

At issue are the rates Charter will pay for Disney’s programming and how those movies and shows will be distributed to Charter’s customers in bundles. Charter has said it does not want to pay a premium for channels its customers do not watch, adding that rate increases are pushing customers to cut the cable cord.

Christopher Winfrey, the CEO of Charter, said on an investor call Friday that he was “disappointed” with the stalemate with Disney. He said the company had proposed an alternative model that Disney would not accept.

“We’re either moving forward with a new collaborative video model, or we’re moving on,” Winfrey said.

Charter’s news conference prompted a sell-off of traditional media stocks, affecting the broader entertainment industry. Shares of Disney were down nearly 3% Friday, Paramount declined more than 9%, and Warner Bros. Discovery fell 12%. Charter shares were down more than 3%.

As viewers abandon cable television for streaming services like Netflix, cable providers like Charter and Comcast have grown frustrated with paying a premium for content that fewer people are watching through traditional means.

Content providers like Disney are making adjustments of their own. The media giant has said it plans to offer a streaming version of ESPN, one of its most valuable TV channels, which has long been a linchpin of the traditional cable bundle. Robert Iger, Disney’s CEO, has said he is exploring options for ESPN, including finding a new partner for distribution or content.

On Friday, Charter said it had proposed a subscription package that included both traditional television and streaming apps, but Disney rejected its terms, said Rich DiGeronimo, president of product and technology. Charter said it was prepared to walk away from Disney’s channels, instead adopting “alternate video solutions” that included services offered by Apple and Roku.

Charter has explored splitting off some sports programming, including regional sports networks, into a higher-cost package called Spectrum Select Plus. Winfrey said Friday that it had not pushed Disney to agree to put ESPN into that package.

Disney Responds To Spectrum Cable Channels Going Dark (https://whatsondisneyplus.com/disney-responds-to-spectrum-cable-channels-going-dark/)

Overnight, Disney’s television channels, including ESPN, FX, ABC and National Geographic, were removed from the Spectrum Cable networks, across multiple markets, including Los Angeles and New York.

The blackouts are due to a carriage dispute between Disney and Charter Communications, which has resulted in over 15 million people losing access to the channels.

Charter Communications released some details from their point of view earlier today, stating that the current video ecosystem is broken, and they offered Disney a new model that they believe creates better alignment for the industry and better products for customers. In their view, this new model could stabilize linear video and create a clear growth path for direct-to-consumer (DTC) video, with a more customer-friendly and financially attractive end-state for programmers.

They have claimed that Disney wanted to charge higher license fees and demand that offering less packaging flexibility, which would cost the consumer more. Charter wants to offer ad-supported tiers of Disney+ and Hulu within the cable bundle, since they view that customers have to pay twice for content on both linear and streaming. With Charter Communications CFO Jessica Fischer saying:

“If we’re unable to come to a deal, and ultimately move on from the traditional video business, the margin profile of our business should improve and its capital needs should decline,”

With so many people cutting the cord from cable since the launch of streaming, cable companies are losing millions of customers and so Spectrum has come up with this new system to protect its business. However, earlier this year, Disney CEO Bob Iger spoke out about their traditional linear business, saying it is no longer core to their business and they are focused on their streaming services, theatrical and parks businesses.

The Walt Disney Company has since released its own statement (https://www.reddit.com/r/television/comments/1688nw1/disney_responds_to_spectrum_cable_channels_going/), sharing its side of the situation:

“Contrary to their claims, we have offered Charter the most favorable terms on rates, distribution, packaging, advertising and more. Although Charter claims to value our direct-to-consumer services, they are demanding these services for free as they have stated publicly. Charter is depriving consumers of that content because they are failing to ascribe any value in exchange for licensing those services.

We continue to invest in original content that premieres exclusively on our linear networks, including live sports, news and appointment viewing programming. Likewise, on our direct-to-consumer services, we make multi-billion-dollar investments in exclusive content, which is incremental to our linear networks.”

Disney continued to state that that they had offered Charter an extension in the negotiations to keep the Disney networks up, but Charter “declined in the middle of programming that is important to their subscribers, including the US Open. Charter’s actions are a disservice to consumers ahead of the kickoff for the college football season on ABC and ESPN’s networks. We value our relationship with Charter and we are ready to get back to the negotiation table to restore access to our unrivaled content to their customers as quickly as possible,”

Hopefully, the deal between Charter and Disney can be agreed on soon, but also, you can see it from both sides, Spectrum is fighting to keep the cable business going and wants to change to fit customers’ demands, especially as more people cut the cord, while Disney is building their streaming services, which don’t need the cable platforms, but also need to continue offering their linear networks to customers. Unlike in many other countries around the world, Disney is still investing in its linear networks, though Bob Iger has said he is looking to potentially sell those networks.

I don't care since I'm a Disney+ subscriber so it doesn't really affect me.

Ed.

Just cancel the cable and get YoutubeTV. Simple Fix

Just cancel the cable and get YoutubeTV. Simple Fix
Or get Firestick like I just did last month. It’s way better than cable and has just about every single American channel on there.

Or get Firestick like I just did last month. It’s way better than cable and has just about every single American channel on there.

yeah its weird so many people bIshing and moaning about losing channels on cable when they can cancel:lol:

Spectrum Charter Says Cable TV Isn’t Working (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/01/business/charter-disney-cable-fight.html)



Disney Responds To Spectrum Cable Channels Going Dark (https://whatsondisneyplus.com/disney-responds-to-spectrum-cable-channels-going-dark/)

Disney makes bizarre claim on ESPN top telecasts in Charter dispute (https://awfulannouncing.com/disney/espn-top-telecasts-charter-dispute.html)

A Disney release claimed "ESPN aired more than half (53) of the top 100 telecasts in Charter homes during the past year. ...That includes all 5 of the top 5."

By Andrew Bucholtz on 09/03/2023

The ongoing carriage dispute between Disney and Charter (which owns and operates the Spectrum-branded cable and internet offerings) is a massive one for both companies and beyond. Charter is the second-largest cable provider and the third-largest multichannel video programming distributor (MVPD) in the U.S., with an estimated 14.7 million pay-TV subscribers, so losing them and their per-subscriber fees (plus the ratings those subscribers bring) is a big deal for Disney, and for Disney channels like ESPN.

As usual in carriage disputes, both sides are making bold claims. But one of the strangest yet came from a PR statement Disney posted on their corporate website Sunday (https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/disney-charter-spectrum-dispute/), claiming that ESPN somehow had 53 of the top 100 telecasts on Charter last year, and all of the top five. Here’s the key part of that:

Losing ESPN is a major issue for consumers since it’s one of the most popular channels. In fact, ESPN aired more than half (53) of the top 100 telecasts in Charter homes during the past year, per Nielsen, the leading audience measurement, data and analytics company. That includes all 5 of the top 5.

The problem for Disney is that’s not even close to true for “the top 100 telecasts” and “all 5 of the top 5,” unless Charter homes are wildly different from the rest of the country and refuse to watch events like the Super Bowl and the NFC and AFC championships. There’s a full list of Nielsen’s top 100 telecasts of 2022, published by Sports Business Journal‘s Austin Karp in January (https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Journal/Issues/2023/01/09/Upfront/top-100-telecasts.aspx), and the first mention of ESPN is at No. 33 (a NFC wild card playoff game also shown on ABC and ESPN2), with their first ESPN event not shown on broadcast TV (the College Football Playoff title game) at No. 35.

The actual top five events were all NFL games (the Super Bowl, three playoff games, and a Thanksgiving game) that aired on NBC, Fox, and CBS, and 82 of the top 100 were NFL games. ESPN had some of those, with many of those in conjunction with ABC. But counting every ESPN mention (both games also on ABC and only on cable) in that top 100 only produces 11, a far cry from 53.

Now, where this is probably actually accurate is if Disney had cited “the top 100 cable telecasts” rather than “the top 100 telecasts.” If we limit this to cable-only, that seems to be about right. As above, we have overall data from that SBJ list rather than Charter-specific data, but ESPN is mentioned at No. 33, No. 35, No. 36 (a CFP semifinal), No. 41 (the other CFP semifinal), and Nos. 48, 49, 51, and 56 (two Saturday Week 18 NFL games and two Monday Night Football games, all shared with ABC).

The highest cable-only non-ESPN events on that list are Nos. 64 and 65 (the men’s NCAA Tournament semifinal and final on TBS/TNT/truTV). There are two Nickelodeon cable broadcasts of NFL games above that at No. 6 and No. 34, but those were both shared with CBS (and CBS drew the majority of the audience for them). So it’s probably fine to say that ESPN had “all 5 of the top 5” cable telecasts on Charter. But they certainly did not have all 5 of the top 5 telecasts. (And it should be noted that “telecast” does not mean “cable-only,” unless there are different dictionaries used inside Disney’s headquarters: Merriam-Webster (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/telecast) says to telecast is “to broadcast by television” as a verb (the usage here is of the related noun), and cites examples including references to programs aired on both broadcast and cable networks.

And “top 5 telecasts” doesn’t even work under qualifications of distribution, as MVPDs like Charter still distribute broadcast networks. And they pay significant retransmission fees to do so (which is a huge part of those broadcast networks’ bottom lines). That’s why ABC is no longer available on Charter as well during this dispute. Yes, people can obtain broadcast networks through other means, particularly antennas, but a lot of broadcast network viewing still comes in MVPD packages. And that broadcast viewing (which accounts for most of the NFL) still dwarfs cable viewing (especially around the NFL), as that top-100 list illustrates.

As noted, carriage disputes often involve grandiose claims from both sides. And Charter has certainly made their own as well (https://awfulannouncing.com/charter/carriage-dispute-disney-move-on.html), especially with their stance that Disney should offer their over-the-top streaming apps (Disney+, Hulu, and ESPN+) for free to Charter customers due to programming overlap. Yes, there’s some overlap (especially on entertainment content on the first two, less so on ESPN+, but that’s growing), but those services still carry a lot of exclusive content, and the Disney point in this release that that approach “does not make economic sense” has some merit.

There also are debates over just how much Charter subscribers consume Disney content. Charter has claimed (https://www.wsj.com/business/media/why-spectrum-customers-cant-watch-the-u-s-open-and-college-football-cfc24af9) only 25 percent of its subscribers “regularly” engage with Disney content, and only half of those are “highly engaged,” while Disney pushed back here with “In the average month, 71 percent of Charter subscribers tune into Disney’s networks or stations” and “Charter subscribers watched more than 3.3 billion hours of content on Disney networks and stations over the past year.” Unlike the top telecasts claim, though, all of those things can potentially be true, with it all depending on the definition of “regularly” and “highly.”

Every carriage dispute comes with significant spin on both sides. And this is a high-stakes dispute for not Disney and Charter, but for the entire TV industry (https://awfulannouncing.com/charter/disney-carriage-dispute-media-stocks-hit.html). So it’s understandable that everyone involved is eager to advance their talking points and try to swing public opinion their way. Charter is definitely doing that as well. And many of the points in that Disney release aren’t particularly disputed: yes, this is a big sports weekend, yes, Charter subscribers are missing out on college football and US Open tennis (and many are vocalizing that discontent on Twitter), and yes, they’ll miss out on Monday Night Football beginning next week as well (unless they buy an antenna, as that opener will also be on ABC) unless this dispute is resolved.

But it simply is not accurate that ESPN aired the five most-watched telecasts of 2022. (Unless Charter subscribers somehow uniquely live in a universe without the NFL, but that seems highly unlikely.) The likely explanation is that the Disney figure drafting this statement forgot the “cable” qualifier here. But that’s a rather important qualifier to omit.

The main reason I mainly think The Walt Disney Company is doing this to Spectrum is so they can get more money out of the deal and by removing all Disney owned channels from Spectrum is their only ticket out. Because when you get the general picture in the 80's to the 90's Disney Channel was a pay channel but wasn't made free until the early 90's but once Disney Channel became a free channel all the cable companies started carrying it and I cannot figure out how Disney Channel is still surviving on cable TV when the new focus is Disney+ and you can see the same programming on Disney Channel on Disney+. And I think next Spectrum will remove local ABC stations and FOX stations too. Because FX is one of FOX"s strongest channels and why they removed it from Spectrum is the weakest thing they have done. This in my mind sounds exactly like what DirectTV did to Hearst stations way back in 2018 and then they did the exact same thing with the CBS stations that same year. I think what Spectrum should do is offer free Disney+ and a year of Hulu and ESPN+ as an apology gift to subscribers because this is a very wrong thing to do

Congress is voted in by the American public, so it's not a question of Congress sidelining, but Americans voting against their best interests or not making enough of a stink when things like this happen. Americans slept walked as companies got bigger. Why should Congress do anything when their voters act as if they don't care what happens?

This point you're making can be summed up with a quote from Thomas Jefferson, “The government you elect is the government you deserve.” .This is a fair point but its much more complicated than that. Congress mucked up cable in the 90's, it has an obligation to fix the mess. There was no foresight in anything they did, that's why the problem exists between Disney and Spectrum. One thing that could be implemented within the next 12 months that would resolve part of the problem going forward:

No over the air station should be bundled with any cable network, these stations are licensed to operate in the public interest by the FCC, the cable carrier is essentially providing an antenna service. If Disney is unwilling to allow Spectrum to retransmit the signal the license should be revoked by the FCC. To avoid this binding arbitration would be required, the fabric of this would include the interest of the public being taken into consideration when a final rate is set.

The ESPN-Charter dispute could shake the foundation of modern sports (https://awfulannouncing.com/espn/charter-disney-carriage-dispute-cable-bundle-future.html)

Sports leagues and their rights fees could be affected by the ongoing Charter-ESPN dispute that threatens to transform the television industry.

I got my ESPN's back!! Never underestimate the power of the NFL.

Disney-Spectrum Blackout Will End Hours Before ESPN’s Monday Night Football (https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2023/09/11/disney-spectrum-blackout-ends-hours-before-espns-monday-night-football/?sh=1d23f1cd6e26)

I got my ESPN's back!! Never underestimate the power of the NFL.

Disney-Spectrum Blackout Will End Hours Before ESPN’s Monday Night Football (https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2023/09/11/disney-spectrum-blackout-ends-hours-before-espns-monday-night-football/?sh=1d23f1cd6e26)

Why do u still have cable?

Why do u still have cable?

I'm old and stuck in my ways.

Now get off my lawn :wave:

I'm old and stuck in my ways.

Now get off my lawn :wave:


I would probably still have it if it was for that situation in 2021. The cable just suddenly shut off and I didnt know why. It was said that an electrical wire outside my window was melting the cable wire which caused me to lose the signal. And after the cable guy came out and it happened again, I gave up and cancelled and signed up with T Mobile internet and cable. Mainly because I was forced to go stay at a hotel that weekend because of no cable and internet in my apt lol So that's my cable cancellation story. If the cable wire was never melted, I would still have it like you

I got my ESPN's back!! Never underestimate the power of the NFL.

Disney-Spectrum Blackout Will End Hours Before ESPN’s Monday Night Football (https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2023/09/11/disney-spectrum-blackout-ends-hours-before-espns-monday-night-football/?sh=1d23f1cd6e26)

you think the NFL played a role?

you think the NFL played a role?

I find the timing of the deal after a week and a half of blackout too coincidental. I think it played a big part.

By the way, good job with the Cowboys last night. Love to see the Giants destroyed.

I would probably still have it if it was for that situation in 2021. The cable just suddenly shut off and I didnt know why. It was said that an electrical wire outside my window was melting the cable wire which caused me to lose the signal. And after the cable guy came out and it happened again, I gave up and cancelled and signed up with T Mobile internet and cable. Mainly because I was forced to go stay at a hotel that weekend because of no cable and internet in my apt lol So that's my cable cancellation story. If the cable wire was never melted, I would still have it like you

You were Comcast if I remember correctly.

You were Comcast if I remember correctly.

Yup Comcast 2000-2021

I got my ESPN's back!! Never underestimate the power of the NFL.

Disney-Spectrum Blackout Will End Hours Before ESPN’s Monday Night Football (https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2023/09/11/disney-spectrum-blackout-ends-hours-before-espns-monday-night-football/?sh=1d23f1cd6e26)

With this new deal, Spectrum will no longer be carrying Baby TV, Disney Junior, Disney XD, Freeform, FXM, FXX, Nat Geo Wild and Nat Geo Mundo. This likely is the canary in the coalmine signifying the end of these channels. Based on Iger’s past comments about Disney’s future with linear television, I think most or all these channels will be shutting down, with some (Freeform, Disney Jr., Disney XD) becoming hubs on Hulu and Disney+ and others (FXX, Nat Geo Wild) merging with their parent channels.

With this new deal, Spectrum will no longer be carrying Baby TV, Disney Junior, Disney XD, Freeform, FXM, FXX, Nat Geo Wild and Nat Geo Mundo. This likely is the canary in the coalmine signifying the end of these channels. Based on Iger’s past comments about Disney’s future with linear television, I think most or all these channels will be shutting down, with some (Freeform, Disney Jr., Disney XD) becoming hubs on Hulu and Disney+ and others (FXX, Nat Geo Wild) merging with their parent channels.

Yeah, I had mentioned that in a different thread. I'm sure some Spectrum customers are upset by that, but luckily for me I care mostly about the sports.

With this new deal, Spectrum will no longer be carrying Baby TV, Disney Junior, Disney XD, Freeform, FXM, FXX, Nat Geo Wild and Nat Geo Mundo. This likely is the canary in the coalmine signifying the end of these channels. Based on Iger’s past comments about Disney’s future with linear television, I think most or all these channels will be shutting down, with some (Freeform, Disney Jr., Disney XD) becoming hubs on Hulu and Disney+ and others (FXX, Nat Geo Wild) merging with their parent channels.Most of these channels I never had any use for (FXX a long time ago when they aired Mad About You and Raising Hope but that was several years now). And Freeform went downhill when they dropped The Middle, I do still watch The Nightmare Before Christmas in October. (Xfinity not Spectrum here)

With this new deal, Spectrum will no longer be carrying Baby TV, Disney Junior, Disney XD, Freeform, FXM, FXX, Nat Geo Wild and Nat Geo Mundo. This likely is the canary in the coalmine signifying the end of these channels. Based on Iger’s past comments about Disney’s future with linear television, I think most or all these channels will be shutting down, with some (Freeform, Disney Jr., Disney XD) becoming hubs on Hulu and Disney+ and others (FXX, Nat Geo Wild) merging with their parent channels.

That sucks.

I actually watch DXD, Freeform, and FXX frequently, so if I had Spectrum, I'd be very upset. Luckily for me, I have DirecTV Stream. I actually prefer linear TV to Disney+ and the like.

Spectrum is spamming my phone now. :rolleyes: I got a call from them saying your (non-existent) account qualifies for blah blah, I deleted the message at that point.

Spectrum is spamming my phone now. :rolleyes: I got a call from them saying your (non-existent) account qualifies for blah blah, I deleted the message at that point.

That means it’s not really Spectrum; it’s scammers, likely in India, pretending to be Spectrum. I recommend you block their number and beware of these scumbags in the future.