View Full Version : There is No Global Warming, There is Regional Warming


Caroline13
08-16-2023, 01:53 PM
and that is a good thing. We've been thrust with all this global warming for years and it's questioned a lot and here is one summation on it:


FREEMAN DYSON Emeritus Professor, Princeton Institute for Advanced Studies (2009)
THERE IS NO GLOBAL WARMING, THERE IS ONLY REGIONAL WARMING (AND IT'S A GOOD THING!):

"The change that’s now going on is very strongly concentrated in the Arctic. In fact in three respects, it’s not global, which I think is very important. First of all, it is mainly in the Arctic. Secondly, it’s mainly in the winter rather than summer. And thirdly, it’s mainly in the night rather than at the daytime. In all three respects, the warming is happening where it is cold, not where it is hot.

The people in Greenland love it. They tell you it’s made their lives a lot easier. They hope it continues. I am not saying none of these consequences are happening. I am just questioning whether they are harmful.

There’s a lot made out of the people who died in heat waves. And there is no doubt that we have heat waves and people die. What they don't say is actually five times as many people die of cold in winters as die of heat in summer. And it is also true that more of the warming happens in winter than in summer. So, if anything, it’s heavily favorable as far as that goes. It certainly saves more lives in winter than it costs in summer.

So that kind of argument is never made. And I see a systematic bias in the way things are reported. Anything that looks bad is reported, and anything that looks good is not reported.

A lot of these things are not anything to do with human activities. Take the shrinking of glaciers, which certainly has been going on for 300 years and has been well documented. So it certainly wasn't due to human activities, most of the time. There’s been a very strong warming, in fact, ever since the Little Ice Age, which was most intense in the 17th century. That certainly was not due to human activity.


https://e360.yale.edu/features/freeman_dyson_takes_on_the_climate_establishment


Question it all from all.

Dude111
08-16-2023, 02:23 PM
Yes I hope it isnt real Carole!!

Caroline13
08-16-2023, 02:37 PM
This got me thinking about the breakup of Al and Tipper Gore "storybook 40 yr marriage", reading that they didn't agree on a lot of things like Al's movement into the global climate issue..the expert he professed to be. ummmmmmmmmmm

GoldenTV
08-16-2023, 08:22 PM
Tell Professor FREEMAN DYSON who live in NJ to come live down south in Texas where for past month and half the temperature been over 100 degree with high humidity. I think he will change his mind about Global Warming, or lack of it :)

https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/weather-heat-texas-ap-lv-231308_1691933563122_hpMain_16x9_608.jpg

Caroline13
08-16-2023, 10:24 PM
Isn't Texas and especially South known for heat and humidity, somewhat like FL. And some of the other southern states.

GoldenTV
08-16-2023, 11:22 PM
Isn't Texas and especially South known for heat and humidity, maybe somewhat like FL. And some of the other southern states.

South does get hot, but not usually with such a intensity and longevity. For example according to NOAA, last month (July 2023) was the hottest July on the record since temperature record-keeping began 174 years ago.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/july-hottest-month-on-earth-records-noaa-nasa-report-temperature-climate-change/

Duster76
08-16-2023, 11:34 PM
South does get hot, but not usually with such a intensity and longevity. For example according to NOAA, last month (July 2023) was the hottest July on the record since temperature record-keeping began 174 years ago.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/july-hottest-month-on-earth-records-noaa-nasa-report-temperature-climate-change/

174 years, wow! Big Deal!

The Earth is 4.5 Billion years old, it's had a lot of weather, ice ages, warming trends, mini ice ages etc. 50 years ago they were predicting the coming second ice age.

GoldenTV
08-17-2023, 12:22 AM
50 years ago they were predicting the coming second ice age.

The guy or scientist (Peter Gwynne) that wrote the article “The Cooling World." back in 1975 in Newsweek predicting ice age in the year 2000 recently recanted his own article he wrote back then. He said and I quote:

“While the hypotheses described in that original story seemed right at the time,” Gwynne explained, “climate scientists now know that they were seriously incomplete. Our climate is warming — not cooling, as the original story suggested.” Put simply, he said, climate science evolved and advanced, resulting in new knowledge.

https://longreads.com/2017/04/13/in-1975-newsweek-predicted-a-new-ice-age-were-still-living-with-the-consequences/

stevea
08-17-2023, 12:59 AM
You can find the same extremes of weather in the winter, too. Some years worse than others.

Duster76
08-17-2023, 10:39 AM
The guy or scientist (Peter Gwynne) that wrote the article “The Cooling World." back in 1975 in Newsweek predicting ice age in the year 2000 recently recanted his own article he wrote back then. He said and I quote:

“While the hypotheses described in that original story seemed right at the time,” Gwynne explained, “climate scientists now know that they were seriously incomplete. Our climate is warming — not cooling, as the original story suggested.” Put simply, he said, climate science evolved and advanced, resulting in new knowledge.

https://longreads.com/2017/04/13/in-1975-newsweek-predicted-a-new-ice-age-were-still-living-with-the-consequences/

So what does that tell you? We know they were wrong then (we didn't need to hear that from him), and they are wrong this time as well.