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9. Married...with Children (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/MarriedWithChildren)

8. Diff'rent Strokes (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/DiffrentStrokes)

7. Baywatch (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/Baywatch)

6. ALF (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/ALF)

5. Bosom Buddies (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/BosomBuddies)

4. The Dukes of Hazzard (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/TheDukesOfHazzard)

3. Three's Company (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/ThreesCompany)

2. All in the Family (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/AllInTheFamily)

1. The Jeffersons (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/TheJeffersons)

It is really interesting that a Swedish version of "Man about the house"/"Three's Company" was made in the '90s.
But I must say that some storylines only make sense when you know that it was based on a slightly older British show.
Really, it was only weird to me that one episode was about how the male lead was prepared to marry a girl because he thought she was pregnant.
Sweden didn't have a taboo against having babies out of wedlock anymore in the 1990s, so it hardly worked at all.
Then again, the same network made a version of "The Honeymooners" around the same time! :lol:

And I really liked "Alf", and "All in the family" seems to have been a good show too.

#10 The original Night Court due to Dan Fielding's sexual harassment of women.

Why #8 and #2? For anyone who watched the video.

Why #8 and #2? For anyone who watched the video.
Nowadays, "Different Strokes" will get accused of having a "white savior complex".
Because apparently, it is wrong if a rich white man takes care of two black orphans. :rolleyes:

"All in the family" would be controversial today since a Conservative can't be sympathetic. :rolleyes:

Nowadays, "Different Strokes" will get accused of having a "white savior complex".,
Because apparently, it is wrong if a rich white man takes care of two black orphans. :rolleyes:

"All in the family" would be controversial today since a Conservative can't be sympathetic. :rolleyes:The party is not why on All in the Family. Archie Bunker was a racist who used racial slurs like the n word. No excuse for bigoted behavior. :rolleyes: You can be Republican without acting like that.

ALF?

What's wrong with The Dukes Of Hazzard? I suppose the "woke" crowd would be screaming about Daisy Duke's outfits! :rolleyes:

Ed.

What's wrong with The Dukes Of Hazzard? I suppose the "woke" crowd would be screaming about Daisy Duke's outfits! :rolleyes:

Ed.

The Dukes of Hazzard is simply on this list because of the fact (https://www.today.com/popculture/dukes-hazzard-stars-respond-confederate-flag-controversy-t186363#:~:text=%22The%20Dukes%20of%20Hazzard%22%20aired,flag%20atop%20the%20Dukes'%20car.) that the Confederate flag is predominately displayed (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/dukes-hazzard-stars-john-schneider-tom-wopat-respond-controversy-cars-confederate-flag-1302105/) on the roof (https://www.fox6now.com/news/dukes-of-hazzard-stars-creator-respond-to-confederate-flag-controversy-the-car-is-innocent) of the General Lee, the car that the Duke cousins drove around in.

Go-Go Gophers
The Amazing Chan and the Chan Clan
My Living Doll

(Not that I agree with cancelling anything, ever. These are historical artifacts we all need to remember.)

Kinda crazy but I don't think The Mary Tyler Moore show could air these days.

Mr Grant always had alcohol in his desk and was checking out the "cabooses" of most women that walked into the newsroom.

The Mary character was an early role model during the 70's Woman's movement but those times are long gone.

Rhoda's only goal was to just get married.

No doubt it was a really well done show but it would need to be greatly modified to air in these times. I guess you could probably say that about alot of tv shows from the 70s/80s though.

Im glad I was born before the world went to hell!!!!!!!

Im glad I was born before the world went to hell!!!!!!!

Dont it make it worse, that you have seen and lived through better times?

some of those do air today in syndication.if you can't have the show today that means it can't be aired in syndication either

The party is not why on All in the Family. Archie Bunker was a racist who used racial slurs like the n word. No excuse for bigoted behavior. :rolleyes: You can be Republican without acting like that.
I think I missed that Archie used the n word.
But I guess that he grew up in a time when using such words still was acceptable.
Of course, times are much different today than they were even in the '70s.
So no TV show would allow racial slurs today.

ALF was controversial?

I decided to watch part of the video to see what made ALF so controversial. He says the difficulty came with executing a puppet driven show, which led to many delays in production. If made today CGI would be used to make ALF look more realistic. Good grief! :facepalm2:
That would ruin the show, good thing ALF is not being remade.

Dont it make it worse, that you have seen and lived through better times?Yes it makes it very hard............ Im very sad.........

I think I missed that Archie used the n word.


The only time that he did was in the "Two's a Crowd" episode from season 8. Him and Mike got drunk together and then Archie told him that when he was a kid that a black kid would beat him up for calling him the n word.

ALF was controversial?
Well, not in the same way as some other shows in that video were.
But it has turned out that except for Paul Fusco, most of the actors who worked on that show hated it.
And it makes some people look back at it less fondly, I guess.

The only time that he did was in the "Two's a Crowd" episode from season 8. Him and Mike got drunk together and then Archie told him that when he was a kid that a black kid would beat him up for calling him the n word.
I see. Thank you.

ALF was controversial?

I'm assuming that ALF (https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/86458/out-world-oral-history-alf) is considered controversial (https://www.looper.com/96755/tv-shows-actors-hated/) because of how infamously (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Trivia/ALF) grueling (https://fantasticfacts.net/15872/) and tense (https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/wxb5hr/til_production_on_alf_was_tense_the_set_was/) the production (https://historythings.com/out-of-this-world-facts-about-the-80s-sitcom-alf/) process was (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/alf-creator-paul-fusco-movie-melmac-327330/).

While I'm sorry the actors did not like working on the show, I still love it.

People get offended just about anything these days

Gee, I like most of those shows on that list. Pretty good entertainment for its time.

And while I watch some reality TV like Storage Wars and Pawn Stars, I'm the first to admit that those shows are anything but real. Opening a storage locker with dusty broken $20 dollar printers with a lame brain yellin' - These are good for a fifty every day! ~Whatever

People get offended just about anything these days
But there was a time when TV shows didn't dare to show a married couple sharing a bed, which people find very silly today.
So we can find different taboos in different eras.

Why is Threes company and ALF on the list?

Why is Threes company and ALF on the list?

Alf likes to eats cats and thats not very pc with todays crowd.

I love cats but when ALF talks about eating cats, it always makes me laugh. I liked it when he had that kitten inside sandwich bread.

but why is Threes company on the list? why would Threes company be controversial?

Why is Threes company and ALF on the list?See my post earlier here, #17 about ALF.

People get offended just about anything these days

I'm acquainted with this YouTube channel, and I'm disappointed that it's now engaging in clickbait.

Those shows could never air today because they were very much of their time, not because of anything else. Is there really a market for the Dukes of Hazzard today?

And of course Different Strokes couldn't air today, because of how self aware, unrealistic and preachy it is. Everyone from both sides would be mocking it as either woke or white saviorism. Other people would just see it as a vehicle for Conrad Bain to help him not get typecast.

I'm acquainted with this YouTube channel, and I'm disappointed that it's now engaging in clickbait.

Those shows could never air today because they were very much of their time, not because of anything else. Is there really a market for the Dukes of Hazzard today?

And of course Different Strokes couldn't air today, because of how self aware, unrealistic and preachy it is. Everyone from both sides would be mocking it as either woke or white saviorism. Other people would just see it as a vehicle for Conrad Bain to help him not get typecast.
It aired on Saturday nights in the UK in 1979, just before prime time. I know one person who drove a truck for a living who liked it.

I understand about ALF. But why would Three's Company be contraversal?

I understand about ALF. But why would Three's Company be contraversal?

In the case of Three's Company (https://collider.com/threes-company-aged-badly/), I'm assuming that people would (https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/threes-company-1977-to-1984.993241/page-2) right away (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/ThreesCompany), frown on (https://www.hollywoodintoto.com/cancel-problematic-threes-company/) the whole premise (https://doyouremember.com/156312/classic-tv-shows-canceled-today) of a man having to pretend to be gay in order to live with (https://www.cbr.com/tv-shows-that-couldnt-be-made-now/) two women.

It aired on Saturday nights in the UK in 1979, just before prime time. I know one person who drove a truck for a living who liked it.

I don't understand what this had to do with my earlier response. The Dukes of Hazzard was an American show about and made for a specific American demographic at a particular time in American history--in the 1970s, not 2023. A lot has changed in tastes between 1979 and 2023. Actually, a lot had changed between 1979 and even 1989.

To make matters worse, the very counter-cultural types that the Dukes of Hazzard Show appealed to moved on to bigger and brighter things, like Joker, Breaking Bad, GTA and other forms of entertainment riddled with violence and nihilism, hence the "dark and gritty" trend, where all the light and frothy things that Americans used to enjoy have to keep being "rebooted" with ugly, dark and cynical elements to make it appealing.

Knowing the various influences on this show, I guarantee you that a showrunner would want to reboot the Dukes to be like Clyde Barrow (of Bonnie and Clyde infamy) and his brother, Buck. Before Bonnie and Clyde, Clyde and Buck were known as the "Barrow Boys," and they were known as troublemakers who gave law enforcement a hard time.

I don't understand what this had to do with my earlier response. The Dukes of Hazzard was an American show about and made for a specific American demographic at a particular time in American history--in the 1970s, not 2023. A lot has changed in tastes between 1979 and 2023. Actually, a lot had changed between 1979 and even 1989.

To make matters worse, the very counter-cultural types that the Dukes of Hazzard Show appealed to moved on to bigger and brighter things, like Joker, Breaking Bad, GTA and other forms of entertainment riddled with violence and nihilism, hence the "dark and gritty" trend, where all the light and frothy things that Americans used to enjoy have to keep being "rebooted" with ugly, dark and cynical elements to make it appealing.

Knowing the various influences on this show, I guarantee you that a showrunner would want to reboot the Dukes to be like Clyde Barrow (of Bonnie and Clyde infamy) and his brother, Buck. Before Bonnie and Clyde, Clyde and Buck were known as the "Barrow Boys," and they were known as troublemakers who gave law enforcement a hard time.
Well I was just giving anecdotal evidence of someone I knew who was a fan. I've just watched the first episode and I agree the show was of its time: no gratuitous violence, no hint of recreational drug use, maybe a sanitised Robin Hood view of the world where justice prevails. I am nostalgic for the 1970s, but I wouldn't rush home to watch that particular show.

Nowadays, "Different Strokes" will get accused of having a "white savior complex".
Because apparently, it is wrong if a rich white man takes care of two black orphans. :rolleyes:

"All in the family" would be controversial today since a Conservative can't be sympathetic. :rolleyes:

Webster (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_XpRi5ix-Q) with Emmanuel Lewis (https://www.tumblr.com/tvguidancecounselor/102552075276/tv-guidance-counselor-live-w-emmanuel-lewis), Alex Karras, and Susan Clark is another sitcom from the '80s (https://screenrant.com/hit-sitcoms-80s-wouldnt-fly-today-outdated/#mr-belvedere) that I don't know would be able to make it on the air today. Besides the immediate cynicism or concern of it like (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/Webster) Diff'rent Strokes, having a "white savior complex" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_savior), some people out there would likely accuse (https://www.quora.com/What-is-one-TV-show-from-previous-decades-that-could-not-be-made-today-Why/answer/Jon-Mixon-1) a show like that of being borderline racist (https://www.thethings.com/the-most-far-fetched-sitcom-premises-of-the-80s/#curse-of-diff-39-rent-strokes) and paternalistic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternalism).

Webster (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_XpRi5ix-Q) with Emmanuel Lewis (https://www.tumblr.com/tvguidancecounselor/102552075276/tv-guidance-counselor-live-w-emmanuel-lewis), Alex Karras, and Susan Clark is another sitcom from the '80s (https://screenrant.com/hit-sitcoms-80s-wouldnt-fly-today-outdated/#mr-belvedere) that I don't know would be able to make it on the air today. Besides the immediate cynicism or concern of it like (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/Webster) Diff'rent Strokes, having a "white savior complex" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_savior), some people out there would likely accuse (https://www.quora.com/What-is-one-TV-show-from-previous-decades-that-could-not-be-made-today-Why/answer/Jon-Mixon-1) a show like that of being borderline racist (https://www.thethings.com/the-most-far-fetched-sitcom-premises-of-the-80s/#curse-of-diff-39-rent-strokes) and paternalistic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternalism).

I think that a show like Webster could definitely air today, but with the concept of the show being a Hollywood celebrity couple or star like Madonna or Angelina Jolie adopting a black child from a Third World country or something. The premise of Webster was also more grounded in reality than Diff'rent Strokes, and I may even think it was created by the showrunners precisely because of how phony the previous show's premise was.

The Gong Show in its original format
Buck Rogers in the 25th Century to positive
South Park
Square Pegs defiantly a product of its time
Soap
Happy Days

The Gong Show in its original format
Buck Rogers in the 25th Century to positive
South Park
Square Pegs defiantly a product of its time
Soap
Happy Days

Probably the biggest issue with Happy Days (https://screenrant.com/sitcoms-70s-wouldnt-fly-today/) is that it may have presented (https://www.quora.com/Was-Happy-Days-a-realistic-portrayal-of-American-life-in-the-1950s/answer/Jon-Mixon-1) an overly sanitized and romanticized (https://wi101.wisc.edu/happy-days-and-1950s-sentimentality/) view (https://www.quora.com/Why-is-the-1950s-so-idealized-in-American-popular-culture) of American life in the 1950s (https://www.quora.com/What-fueled-the-1950s-nostalgia-behind-TV-shows-like-Happy-Days-Life-cant-have-been-as-fun-as-it-was-depicted-by-Fonzie-Richie-and-co/answer/Jon-Mixon-1).

As for Square Pegs, I don't know for sure if a show like that would work the same way if it came on the air today instead of the early 1980s. I say this because I seriously doubt if the formally tried and true stories about "unpopular" and "popular" teenagers in high school and the cliques that they affiliate themselves with could be played straight in more modern times. The movie Mean Girls arguably deconstructed (https://www.reddit.com/r/nirvanakilledmycareer/comments/xr1hk1/mean_girls_2004_killed_the_teen_movie/) the typical teen movie tropes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNtUcEmJo7U) so effectively, that central idea of having "popular" kids and wanting to be part of the "popular group" may have suddenly become really tired and passé.

I was in regards to Happy Days referring to the notion of a grown adult Fonzie hanging around high school kids and cavorting with teenage girls which in todays culture would've had the Fonz in front of a firing squad.

People get offended just about anything these days

This is nonsense fabricated by a younger generation who want the freedom to be as offensive as possible without consequence by pretending that that there was a halcyon period before now in which everyone was free to say and do as much as they wanted because no one got offended, ever.

Not. True. Case in point:

Gone with the Wind, 1939:

https://jacket2.org/sites/jacket2.org/files/imagecache/wide_main_column/gone%20with%20the%20wind%20protest.jpg

Lenny Bruce gets arrested on obscenity charges for his act, 1961:

https://saramoura.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Lenny-Bruce-Mugshot.jpg

Backlash to The Beatles, after John Lennon said they were bigger than Jesus, 1965:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d2/51/b1/d251b12909f60acc5708a3a1013a360e.png

Jim Morrison, arrested on obscenity charges, for his act, in 1969

https://groovyhistory.com/content/163625/ec1208f0fff934be813e525d623a3043.jpg

Life of Brian, 1979:

https://www.thevintagenews.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/65/2016/11/109-1.jpg

Passion of the Christ, 2004:

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/demonstrators-hold-signs-protesting-mel-gibsons-the-passion-of-the-picture-id3014608?s=612x612

The events above don't even touch the surface:

Amos and Andy gets canceled, in 1953, after protests from the NAACP (https://www.britannica.com/topic/Amos-n-Andy-American-radio-program)

Bridget Loves Bernie gets canceled, after protests from Catholic and Jewish groups objecting to its depiction of an Interfaith Marriage (https://www.nytimes.com/1973/02/07/archives/bridget-loves-bernie-attacked-by-jewish-groups.html)

Vanessa Williams forced to give up Miss America Crown, because of Penthouse photos, 1984 (https://time.com/3961120/miss-america-scandal-vanessa-williams/)

Pee Wee Herman's show gets canceled, after sex theater scandal (https://ew.com/article/1991/08/16/pee-wee-herman-scandal/)

Terry Rakolta campaigns to get Married with Children Canceled (https://marriedwithchildren.fandom.com/wiki/Terry_Rakolta)

The list goes on and on...

The point is that there was never a time when TV shows, movies and celebrities didn't meet heavy opposition or controversy. Stop spreading this lie that in the "good, ol' days, you could be as crude, rude, offensive as you wanted to be without stepping on toes. This was never true, no matter how much people want to spin that narrative.

This is nonsense fabricated by a younger generation who want the freedom to be as offensive as possible without consequence by pretending that that there was a halcyon period before now in which everyone was free to say and do as much as they wanted because no one got offended, ever.

Not. True. Case in point:

Gone with the Wind, 1939:

https://jacket2.org/sites/jacket2.org/files/imagecache/wide_main_column/gone%20with%20the%20wind%20protest.jpg

Lenny Bruce gets arrested on obscenity charges for his act, 1961:

https://saramoura.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Lenny-Bruce-Mugshot.jpg

Backlash to The Beatles, after John Lennon said they were bigger than Jesus, 1965:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d2/51/b1/d251b12909f60acc5708a3a1013a360e.png

Jim Morrison, arrested on obscenity charges, for his act, in 1969

https://groovyhistory.com/content/163625/ec1208f0fff934be813e525d623a3043.jpg

Life of Brian, 1979:

https://www.thevintagenews.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/65/2016/11/109-1.jpg

Passion of the Christ, 2004:

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/demonstrators-hold-signs-protesting-mel-gibsons-the-passion-of-the-picture-id3014608?s=612x612

The events above don't even touch the surface:

Amos and Andy gets canceled, in 1953, after protests from the NAACP (https://www.britannica.com/topic/Amos-n-Andy-American-radio-program)

Bridget Loves Bernie gets canceled, after protests from Catholic and Jewish groups objecting to its depiction of an Interfaith Marriage (https://www.nytimes.com/1973/02/07/archives/bridget-loves-bernie-attacked-by-jewish-groups.html)

Vanessa Williams forced to give up Miss America Crown, because of Penthouse photos, 1984 (https://time.com/3961120/miss-america-scandal-vanessa-williams/)

Pee Wee Herman's show gets canceled, after sex theater scandal (https://ew.com/article/1991/08/16/pee-wee-herman-scandal/)

Terry Rakolta campaigns to get Married with Children Canceled (https://marriedwithchildren.fandom.com/wiki/Terry_Rakolta)

The list goes on and on...

The point is that there was never a time when TV shows, movies and celebrities didn't meet heavy opposition or controversy. Stop spreading this lie that in the "good, ol' days, you could be as crude, rude, offensive as you wanted to be without stepping on toes. This was never true, no matter how much people want to spin that narrative.

There has always been controversy since the world began, but the majority of people living back in those days were smart enough to ignore the political extremists.

I think Gone With the Wind be controversal is because of slavery and a white person owning black slaves

Gone With The Wind would be controversial is because the film's romanticizing of the antebellum South and its whitewashing of the horrors of slavery

South ParkYou do know South Park is a current show? Like Family Guy and The Simpsons, it shows no signs of ending anytime soon. :(

There has always been controversy since the world began, but the majority of people living back in those days were smart enough to ignore the political extremists.

This is a very simplistic take, in my opinion, of the difference between "then" and "now" in terms of what I'm assuming we're talking about, which is this bogus Alt Right talking point of "cancel culture."

Nobody "ignored" anyone. Scores of people were blacklisted in the 1950s, including Zero Mostel, Dalton Trumbo and Jack Gifford. There are many famous writers, actors and directors who were part of the Golden Age of Hollywood that you don't know about because of the Red Scare putting them on the blacklist and making them disappear forever.

Remember The Smothers Brothers? If you don't know who they are or know what I'm referencing, here's the story. They were the biggest political TV show on primetime, and they were canceled at the peak of their fame because of their politics and edgy humor (https://retronewser.com/2019/04/04/the-smothers-brothers-comedy-hour-abruptly-cancelled-by-cbs-tv/).

Some "controversial" projects went through, but the only reason why they were released in spite of all the backlash is that filmmakers or showrunners listened to the complaints and reached a compromise. For example:


The reason why Gone with the Wind was eventually greenlit is that all the blatantly racist stuff had to be taken out before it was even shot.
Italian-Americans heavily complained about the TV Show, The Untouchables. The Untouchables then stopped making all the criminals Italians, so it was allowed to continue.


Some backlashes blew over, when the people behind the controversial project or mired in scandal went on an apology tour. I guess people posting are too young to know that the only reason why people like Jane Fonda, Jackie Mason and Ingrid Bergman were able to have careers is that they had to beg for forgiveness. Jackie Mason didn't work for, like, 15 years after he was accused of giving the finger on the Ed Sullivan Show.

There is absolutely nothing new about backlashes, people being "canceled" or groups being hypersensitive about movies and TV shows today, other than people reacting to it with indignance and defiance, as in, "How dare black people, Christians, women, Muslims, etc. get offended! Hell, be even more offensive to show them who's boss, call them woke/snowflakes/SJWs, or, in your own words--political extremists-- and don't apologize or compromise, ever."

I guess that's what's annoying me most about this "back in the day" sentiment. We've always had controversy, scandals, people being "sensitive." We've always had cancel culture and sometimes movies, TV shows, and entertainers had to compromise or apologize to keep working. There's nothing exceptional about what's going on today other than people being exceptionally arrogant, indignant and defiant in the face of people getting upset about something. This is why there is this pushback on the other side now to be even more aggressive about being offended, to where they're trying to kill projects and ruin careers out of spite.

I'm not saying that creatives and entertainers should be doormats. But in the end, a little sensitivity, understanding and compromising goes a long way when there's controversy or people upset about something.

You do know South Park is a current show? (

Most people crying about "cancel culture" don't, because it's just a mindless meme to them, to where they blurt it out, even if it doesn't make sense.

For example, in this clickbait YouTube video trying to stoke this idea that everything is under attack today because of woke, PC, etc. maybe Diff'rent Strokes and Three's Company wouldn't be greenlit today, but aren't they airing today in...reruns? Isn't that more or less the same thing?

I love the cognitive dissonance of these people. "OMG, WE ARE SO WOKE THAT THREE'S COMPANY AND ALL IN THE FAMILY COULD NEVER AIR TODAY...even though these shows have been airing nonstop in syndication for the past 40-50 years, without fail!" Hell, Three's Company, All in the Family and The Jeffersons are airing in NYC back to back right now, and they're on all the live streaming platforms. How are they not able to air today when they're airing today and are so popular that they've been airing for decades without any issue? :lol:

I think I missed that Archie used the n word.
But I guess that he grew up in a time when using such words still was acceptable.
Of course, times are much different today than they were even in the '70s.
So no TV show would allow racial slurs today.

A little late on reading this, but I don't think he used the n word. But he pushed every stereotype conceivable, and used some other offensive terms.

Most people crying about "cancel culture" don't, because it's just a mindless meme to them, to where they blurt it out, even if it doesn't make sense.

For example, in this clickbait YouTube video trying to stoke this idea that everything is under attack today because of woke, PC, etc. maybe Diff'rent Strokes and Three's Company wouldn't be greenlit today, but aren't they airing today in...reruns? Isn't that more or less the same thing?

I love the cognitive dissonance of these people. "OMG, WE ARE SO WOKE THAT THREE'S COMPANY AND ALL IN THE FAMILY COULD NEVER AIR TODAY...even though these shows have been airing nonstop in syndication for the past 40-50 years, without fail!" Hell, Three's Company, All in the Family and The Jefferson's are airing in NYC back to back right now, and they're on all the live streaming platforms. How are they not able to air today when they're airing today and are so popular that they've been airing for decades without any issue? :lol: We're talking about syndicated old shows or current shows that debuted 25+ years ago we're talking about if the said shows were to have debuted over the past five-ten years no way would a show like South Park about a group of foul mouth kids one of which is always dyeing of a violent demise taking advice from a stereotypical womanizing black man would make it past season one in todays over sensitive society I doubt it if Family Guy would've made it today.

This is a very simplistic take, in my opinion, of the difference between "then" and "now" in terms of what I'm assuming we're talking about, which is this bogus Alt Right talking point of "cancel culture."

Nobody "ignored" anyone. Scores of people were blacklisted in the 1950s, including Zero Mostel, Dalton Trumbo and Jack Gifford. There are many famous writers, actors and directors who were part of the Golden Age of Hollywood that you don't know about because of the Red Scare putting them on the blacklist and making them disappear forever.

Remember The Smothers Brothers? If you don't know who they are or know what I'm referencing, here's the story. They were the biggest political TV show on primetime, and they were canceled at the peak of their fame because of their politics and edgy humor (https://retronewser.com/2019/04/04/the-smothers-brothers-comedy-hour-abruptly-cancelled-by-cbs-tv/).

Some "controversial" projects went through, but the only reason why they were released in spite of all the backlash is that filmmakers or showrunners listened to the complaints and reached a compromise. For example:


The reason why Gone with the Wind was eventually greenlit is that all the blatantly racist stuff had to be taken out before it was even shot.
Italian-Americans heavily complained about the TV Show, The Untouchables. The Untouchables then stopped making all the criminals Italians, so it was allowed to continue.


Some backlashes blew over, when the people behind the controversial project or mired in scandal went on an apology tour. I guess people posting are too young to know that the only reason why people like Jane Fonda, Jackie Mason and Ingrid Bergman were able to have careers is that they had to beg for forgiveness. Jackie Mason didn't work for, like, 15 years after he was accused of giving the finger on the Ed Sullivan Show.

There is absolutely nothing new about backlashes, people being "canceled" or groups being hypersensitive about movies and TV shows today, other than people reacting to it with indignance and defiance, as in, "How dare black people, Christians, women, Muslims, etc. get offended! Hell, be even more offensive to show them who's boss, call them woke/snowflakes/SJWs, or, in your own words--political extremists-- and don't apologize or compromise, ever."

I guess that's what's annoying me most about this "back in the day" sentiment. We've always had controversy, scandals, people being "sensitive." We've always had cancel culture and sometimes movies, TV shows, and entertainers had to compromise or apologize to keep working. There's nothing exceptional about what's going on today other than people being exceptionally arrogant, indignant and defiant in the face of people getting upset about something. This is why there is this pushback on the other side now to be even more aggressive about being offended, to where they're trying to kill projects and ruin careers out of spite.

I'm not saying that creatives and entertainers should be doormats. But in the end, a little sensitivity, understanding and compromising goes a long way when there's controversy or people upset about something.
Yeah, there has indeed always been controversies and cancelling.
It is only that what is controversial might change over the decades.

10 Classic Sitcoms That Couldn't Be Made Today (https://www.cbr.com/classic-sitcoms-problematic/)

Classic sitcoms are classic for a reason, but many of them contain social commentary and antics that would not be acceptable today.

The party is not why on All in the Family. Archie Bunker was a racist who used racial slurs like the n word. No excuse for bigoted behavior. :rolleyes: You can be Republican without acting like that.

True conservatives are NEVER wrong (just ask them).

OTOH, I don't recall Archie as ever being portrayed as being right.

Humor has changed - many shows that aired and were considered funny in the 1970s couldn't air today and vice versa.

For example, M*A*S*H was a product of its time - it may have been set during the Korean War, but it was really anti-Vietnam War. Now, no context.