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Hawkee
04-12-2023, 01:24 AM
My mom is watching the movie What's Love Got To Do With It? right now and I would like to know if you've seen it before? It is a movie about Tina Turner's career and was based on Tina Turner's biography I, Tina. When this film debuted in 1993 Angela Bassett was praised for playing the role of Tina Turner so well and the movie featured the song I Don't Wanna Fight in the soundtrack which was a top 90's hit for Tina Turner. It's surprising that out of all the movies based on singers this movie does Tina Turner's story justice
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AMackII
04-13-2023, 11:50 AM
This June mark 30 years since it(What’s Love Got To Do With It) released in theatres

Caroline13
05-13-2023, 03:54 PM
A favorite and I could watch Tina Turner any time.

Steve_uk
05-24-2023, 02:45 PM
Tina has died. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12121071/Tina-Turner-dead-83-Singer-dies-home-Switzerland-long-illness.html

TVLegend
08-19-2023, 07:03 PM
It’s best not to take this movie seriously and to only watch it out of pure entertainment. When I found out this so-called “autobiographical film” of Tina Turner’s alleged “true life behind closed doors” was mostly made up of lies and wild exaggerations, I was beyond frustrated. Just a waste of my time to find out almost every single second of it never happened. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a good, entertaining movie, but barely a true one at all.


From Wikipedia:

Although the film was adapted from Tina Turner's autobiography I, Tina, elements of the script were "fictionalized for dramatic purposes".

- Ike did not sing or play guitar on the record "Rocket 88" as depicted in the film. He wrote the song and played piano on the record. His saxophonist Jackie Brenston was the vocalist. The record was released under the alias Jackie Brenston and his Delta Cats who were actually Ike's band the Kings of Rhythm.

- The song Anna Mae first performs onstage with Ike, "You Know I Love You", was actually a slower B.B. King blues ballad; Ike played piano on King's record. When Anna Mae sang the song, Ike played the organ, not the guitar as depicted in the film. Tina recorded a blues rock rendition of the song for the film's soundtrack.

- Anna Mae and Ike did not have sex the night his live-in girlfriend Lorraine Taylor shot herself as depicted. In reality, when Anna Mae was pregnant in 1958, Lorraine pulled a gun on her before shooting herself because she believed that Anna Mae and Ike were having an affair. However, Anna Mae and Ike were platonic friends until 1960 when she went to sleep in his bed after a musician threatened to come into her room.

- The first song Anna Mae is portrayed recording, "Tina's Wish", is actually a 1973 track titled "Make Me Over" from the album Nutbush City Limits. In reality, the first song she recorded is "Boxtop" in 1958.

- A theater marquee is shown for a 1960 show starring Otis Redding, Martha and the Vandellas, and Ike & Tina Turner. In reality, Martha and the Vandellas were known as The Del-Phis until 1961, and Otis Redding did not release his first solo single until 1962.

- In the film, Anna Mae learns of her name change to Tina Turner after her song is played on a radio in the hospital where she had given birth. In reality, Ike & Tina Turner's debut single "A Fool In Love" was released in August 1960, months before she gave birth to their son.

- In real life, Ike did not call her Anna Mae, he called her either Ann or "Bo" (short for her surname Bullock). Even after she received the stage name Tina Turner, family and friends still called her Ann.

- The film implies that Tina's eldest child, Craig Raymond (born Raymond Craig in 1958), is Ike's biological son. In reality, his biological father was saxophonist Raymond Hill and Ike later adopted him. Tina and Ike have one biological child, Ronald "Ronnie" Renelle, born in 1960.

- The film depicts Ike and his entourage sneaking Tina out of the hospital after she gave birth to get married. In reality, Ike was not present for the birth of their son Ronnie. Tina wrote in her book that a few days after she checked herself out of the hospital, she discovered that the woman Ike hired to replace her while she recuperated was a sex worker using her stage name Tina Turner to get clients.She confronted the woman and after they got into a fight, Tina performed a show that night. Ike wrote in his book Takin' Back My Name that he was unaware the woman was a sex worker. He was out of town to attend a court hearing in St. Louis when Tina gave birth in Los Angeles. They married in 1962, two years after the birth of their son.

- Lorraine Taylor, the mother of Ike's sons Ike Junior and Michael, did not drop them off at his home with Tina as depicted in the film. In reality, Ike went to St. Louis and brought his sons to Los Angeles after Lorraine informed him she was going to leave them there. Tina also brought her son Craig to live with them.

- In a scene dated 1968, Ike and Tina open for the Rolling Stones performing "Proud Mary". In reality, Ike and Tina did not perform "Proud Mary" until after it was released by Creedence Clearwater Revival in 1969. The Rolling Stones did not have any concerts in 1968; Ike and Tina opened for them on their 1966 British Tour and 1969 American Tour.

- Jackie and Fross are both fictional characters. Jackie represents an amalgamation of Ikettes and associates of Tina, one of whom was Ike's friend Valerie Bishop who introduced Tina to Buddhism in 1973.

- The infamous "eat the cake Anna Mae" scene was an exaggerated reenactment of an incident that occurred during the early years of the revue. Tina recalled that when they stopped to order food, someone brought her a pound cake while they were sitting in a car. Although Tina said she did not order it, Ike ordered her to eat all of it while he watched.

- The scene where Tina was raped during the recording of "Nutbush City Limits" was exaggerated from what she stated in her book. Tina claimed that sometimes after Ike would hit her, he then would have sex with her. Ike maintained that he never raped Tina. "Nutbush City Limits" was recorded at their Bolic Sound recording studio, not at home as depicted in the film.

- The film depicts Tina's suicide attempt in 1974 when it actually occurred six years prior in 1968. Ike did not tell Tina "if you don't make it, I'll kill you" as depicted in the ambulance scene. Tina stated in her book that after her suicide attempt she joked with a friend that she was so afraid of Ike, he probably threatened her which is why she survived. She was unconscious and did not know what he actually said. Ike stated in his book that he scolded Tina as his way of motivating her to fight for her life.

- During the time Tina is planning her comeback in the early 1980s, a reenactment of an interview features Tina rehearsing her song "I Might Have Been Queen". The song would be recorded for her 1984 comeback album, Private Dancer.

- The incident in the Ritz Theatre where Ike fails to scare Tina with his pistol is fabricated. Allegedly, Ike made threats to hire a hitman, so Tina carried a pistol, but he did not threaten her in person with a gun as depicted.

- Before performing "What's Love Got to Do with It" at the Ritz in 1983, the emcee announces that it was her "first solo appearance", but she first performed there in 1981. Her 1983 performance there occurred before the recording of "What's Love Got to Do with It" and led to Capitol Records signing a contract with her.

- A title card at the end states that Tina's first solo album won four Grammy Awards, implying it was Private Dancer. In reality that album was her fifth solo album. Her first two solo albums (Tina Turns the Country On! and Acid Queen) were released while she was still with Ike, and two (Rough and Love Explosion) were released after.

Hawkee
08-20-2023, 05:10 AM
That Tina Turner song you mentioned called Tina's Wish is actually named Make Me Over? I believe Keyshia Cole covered that song as the first track of her third album A Different Me and I didn't even know that it was a Tina Turner song until I read the liner notes of my copy of Keyshia Cole's A Different Me. I think the main reason why Tina Turner wanted to turn her book I Tina into What's Love Got To Do With It was because she always wanted her story turned into a Hollywood movie and with Angela Bassett playing the role of Tina Turner made it worthy of watching. Now that Tina Turner is gone I think we will see more attention given to Tina Turner and they will make more Broadway plays and movies based on her life as an 80's pop star

DJM77
08-20-2023, 08:47 PM
It’s best not to take this movie seriously and to only watch it out of pure entertainment. When I found out this so-called “autobiographical film” of Tina Turner’s alleged “true life behind closed doors” was mostly made up of lies and wild exaggerations, I was beyond frustrated. Just a waste of my time to find out almost every single second of it never happened. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a good, entertaining movie, but barely a true one at all.


From Wikipedia:

Although the film was adapted from Tina Turner's autobiography I, Tina, elements of the script were "fictionalized for dramatic purposes".

- Ike did not sing or play guitar on the record "Rocket 88" as depicted in the film. He wrote the song and played piano on the record. His saxophonist Jackie Brenston was the vocalist. The record was released under the alias Jackie Brenston and his Delta Cats who were actually Ike's band the Kings of Rhythm.

- The song Anna Mae first performs onstage with Ike, "You Know I Love You", was actually a slower B.B. King blues ballad; Ike played piano on King's record. When Anna Mae sang the song, Ike played the organ, not the guitar as depicted in the film. Tina recorded a blues rock rendition of the song for the film's soundtrack.

- Anna Mae and Ike did not have sex the night his live-in girlfriend Lorraine Taylor shot herself as depicted. In reality, when Anna Mae was pregnant in 1958, Lorraine pulled a gun on her before shooting herself because she believed that Anna Mae and Ike were having an affair. However, Anna Mae and Ike were platonic friends until 1960 when she went to sleep in his bed after a musician threatened to come into her room.

- The first song Anna Mae is portrayed recording, "Tina's Wish", is actually a 1973 track titled "Make Me Over" from the album Nutbush City Limits. In reality, the first song she recorded is "Boxtop" in 1958.

- A theater marquee is shown for a 1960 show starring Otis Redding, Martha and the Vandellas, and Ike & Tina Turner. In reality, Martha and the Vandellas were known as The Del-Phis until 1961, and Otis Redding did not release his first solo single until 1962.

- In the film, Anna Mae learns of her name change to Tina Turner after her song is played on a radio in the hospital where she had given birth. In reality, Ike & Tina Turner's debut single "A Fool In Love" was released in August 1960, months before she gave birth to their son.

- In real life, Ike did not call her Anna Mae, he called her either Ann or "Bo" (short for her surname Bullock). Even after she received the stage name Tina Turner, family and friends still called her Ann.

- The film implies that Tina's eldest child, Craig Raymond (born Raymond Craig in 1958), is Ike's biological son. In reality, his biological father was saxophonist Raymond Hill and Ike later adopted him. Tina and Ike have one biological child, Ronald "Ronnie" Renelle, born in 1960.

- The film depicts Ike and his entourage sneaking Tina out of the hospital after she gave birth to get married. In reality, Ike was not present for the birth of their son Ronnie. Tina wrote in her book that a few days after she checked herself out of the hospital, she discovered that the woman Ike hired to replace her while she recuperated was a sex worker using her stage name Tina Turner to get clients.She confronted the woman and after they got into a fight, Tina performed a show that night. Ike wrote in his book Takin' Back My Name that he was unaware the woman was a sex worker. He was out of town to attend a court hearing in St. Louis when Tina gave birth in Los Angeles. They married in 1962, two years after the birth of their son.

- Lorraine Taylor, the mother of Ike's sons Ike Junior and Michael, did not drop them off at his home with Tina as depicted in the film. In reality, Ike went to St. Louis and brought his sons to Los Angeles after Lorraine informed him she was going to leave them there. Tina also brought her son Craig to live with them.

- In a scene dated 1968, Ike and Tina open for the Rolling Stones performing "Proud Mary". In reality, Ike and Tina did not perform "Proud Mary" until after it was released by Creedence Clearwater Revival in 1969. The Rolling Stones did not have any concerts in 1968; Ike and Tina opened for them on their 1966 British Tour and 1969 American Tour.

- Jackie and Fross are both fictional characters. Jackie represents an amalgamation of Ikettes and associates of Tina, one of whom was Ike's friend Valerie Bishop who introduced Tina to Buddhism in 1973.

- The infamous "eat the cake Anna Mae" scene was an exaggerated reenactment of an incident that occurred during the early years of the revue. Tina recalled that when they stopped to order food, someone brought her a pound cake while they were sitting in a car. Although Tina said she did not order it, Ike ordered her to eat all of it while he watched.

- The scene where Tina was raped during the recording of "Nutbush City Limits" was exaggerated from what she stated in her book. Tina claimed that sometimes after Ike would hit her, he then would have sex with her. Ike maintained that he never raped Tina. "Nutbush City Limits" was recorded at their Bolic Sound recording studio, not at home as depicted in the film.

- The film depicts Tina's suicide attempt in 1974 when it actually occurred six years prior in 1968. Ike did not tell Tina "if you don't make it, I'll kill you" as depicted in the ambulance scene. Tina stated in her book that after her suicide attempt she joked with a friend that she was so afraid of Ike, he probably threatened her which is why she survived. She was unconscious and did not know what he actually said. Ike stated in his book that he scolded Tina as his way of motivating her to fight for her life.

- During the time Tina is planning her comeback in the early 1980s, a reenactment of an interview features Tina rehearsing her song "I Might Have Been Queen". The song would be recorded for her 1984 comeback album, Private Dancer.

- The incident in the Ritz Theatre where Ike fails to scare Tina with his pistol is fabricated. Allegedly, Ike made threats to hire a hitman, so Tina carried a pistol, but he did not threaten her in person with a gun as depicted.

- Before performing "What's Love Got to Do with It" at the Ritz in 1983, the emcee announces that it was her "first solo appearance", but she first performed there in 1981. Her 1983 performance there occurred before the recording of "What's Love Got to Do with It" and led to Capitol Records signing a contract with her.

- A title card at the end states that Tina's first solo album won four Grammy Awards, implying it was Private Dancer. In reality that album was her fifth solo album. Her first two solo albums (Tina Turns the Country On! and Acid Queen) were released while she was still with Ike, and two (Rough and Love Explosion) were released after.

I always had a hard time believing that Tina shattered Ike's car window just by slamming the door.

TVLegend
08-21-2023, 05:36 PM
I always had a hard time believing that Tina shattered Ike's car window just by slamming the door.
That was also an exaggerated reenactment of a real life situation that Wikipedia didn’t include. Almost this whole movie is a big lie.

JamesG
08-21-2023, 06:09 PM
I haven’t seen the movie in a while, but I don’t think that scene near the end happened with Ike putting down a gun in Tina’s dressing room.

I don’t think it was meant to be funny, but the “Have Some Cake!” scene at the diner was hilarious. Ike back slapped one of the back up dancers and she pretty much back-flipped across the room. :lol:

TVLegend
08-21-2023, 06:54 PM
I haven’t seen the movie in a while, but I don’t think that scene near the end happened with Ike putting down a gun in Tina’s dressing room.
It didn’t happen. In real life, Ike hired a bunch of thugs to do a drive by shooting where Tina was residing after their divorce, but he never confronted her with a gun in person.

I don’t think it was meant to be funny, but the “Have Some Cake!” scene at the diner was hilarious. Ike back slapped one of the back up dancers and she pretty much back-flipped across the room. :lol:
Yeah, that “eat the cake Anna Mae” scene was hard NOT to laugh at, even though it was supposed to be taken seriously. :rotflmao::rotflmao: Some of the best lines in that movie come from that particular scene.

Ike (talking about Tina): See? White man ask her to open her mouth, she sang all goddamn day long. I ask, she ain’t gon’ say nothin’. Now, come on, baby. Open ya’ mouth.


Jackie: F*ck you, Ike! F*ck you, bitch! I’m outta here! You ain’t gotta hit me but ONCE!

Tina (embarrassed): Jackie, it’s alright!

Jackie: No, it’s NOT alright to let the motherf*cka’ pound on you! If you had any sense, you’d get outta here too!

Ike (throwing Jackie’s purse at her): If you had any sense, you’d get the f*ck outta here already!

Jackie: Kiss muh ass! You a dead woman if you stay with him!

DJM77
08-21-2023, 08:11 PM
- The incident in the Ritz Theatre where Ike fails to scare Tina with his pistol is fabricated. Allegedly, Ike made threats to hire a hitman, so Tina carried a pistol, but he did not threaten her in person with a gun as depicted.


It didn’t happen. In real life, Ike hired a bunch of thugs to do a drive by shooting where Tina was residing after their divorce, but he never confronted her with a gun in person.


The scene right at the end where Ike was trying to scare Tina with the gun is the main part of the movie that I was always curious if it was something that really happened or not. Thanks for shedding some light on it.

I really like biopics, but the biggest complaint that I have about them is that is seems like they always have me wondering if certain scenes actually happened in real life or not.