View Full Version : Glade Air Freshener: HYPER Inflation
GentlemanJim 02-03-2023, 05:35 PM I've been buying thr 8oz aerosol cans for 97 cents apiece, like forever. At that price it just didn't make sense to not have plenty sitting around, I'd buy 3-5 cans every 2 weeks.
Then, it went out of stock almost everywhwere I shop. And it was suspicious because even the slow selling fragrances were gone, along with the ever popular ones.
Something just told me they were going to manipulate the marketplace, for a higher price. 4-5 weeks the shelves stayed empty at Walmart, Meijer, and Kroger.
Well, I was right, now they have plenty in stock, 8.3 z cans now instead of the old 8 oz....but priced at a whopping $2.38 per can....that;s like a 140% price increase.
Outrage!!
They claim on the can that the contents now have 2X as much fragrance...but that is pure BS. I had a benchmark for how the old formula could be sprayed to fill a room, then close the door, then go sit in my living room and within 10 minutes I could smell the bleed off from the closed room.
And the new formula comes nowhere near what the old could do, huge price increase and a product inferior to the original to boot. :mad:
Caroline13 02-03-2023, 07:27 PM Well, 97cents sounds like they were giving it away. And the new price sounds like a bargain to me.... Sounds like a Dollar Store price. I don't use those perfume sprays...
I have a price increase on a food and I'll post separately.
GentlemanJim 02-03-2023, 08:23 PM Well, 97cents sounds like they were giving it away. And the new price sounds like a bargain to me....
Over the years I often wondered how they could even produce the can for 97 cents, let alone the contents..
Surely If I wanted to buy even a simple metal cup, no one would sell one so cheaply.
BUT, it was that price for years, so I was happy to take advantage of it.
But, what this thread is really about, is the manipulation...having ALL the product disappear and stay gone...all at once, and then have such a drastic increase once store inventory is restocked, just feels like corporate fat cats deciding to stick it to consumers. Ever since the lockdowns companies have been coming up with creative excuses to "stick it" to the consumer, and this feels like just more of the same.
It's not so much the new price I have a problem with, rather it's the feeling of being "gamed" that seems noteworthy.
Perhaps Glade used their 97 cent price to chase competitors from the market, and now once successful are about to "cash in"? I don't recall who the historic competitors of Glade were, but all I otherwise see on shelves now is Febreeze, and they are a relative new comer. SO perhaps Glade's historic rivals bit the dust?
The new improved replacements are truly inferior. Glade used to readily disperse in the air, easily. But the new cans don't spray as fine a mist, and you can see most of that fall straight to the floor (which is what I always disliked about the "pump" sprayers)
biffbronson 02-03-2023, 09:41 PM I still believe in the market forces of supply and demand serving to even out prices to some extent. Just yesterday, I was observing a YouTuber comparing name brand and store brand / small company products: cleaning, paper, food, etc. In some cases, the "knockoff" so to speak performed as well as or better than the name brand, or tasted equally good. The old saying remains pertinent: you never know until you try.
Big brand makers have always had the advantages of pervasive advertising and superior product distribution / store placement. But when their products' prices rise significantly, many consumers naturally begin considering alternatives.
Dollar stores are now under pressure not only from shoppers stocking up when they detect a good deal, but also because of a tight market of applicants for stocking the shelves & "recovery" -- their stores have become an uneven mess in many cases. Sample of something I overheard at a Dollar Tree: a shopper was checking out and commented to the cashier, "This very same thing costs $3 at Walmart." By paying $1.25, her savings was over 58%.
Brand loyalty will always exist -- I have a cousin who "always" buys name-brand foods. I on the other hand for example, having been a PB & J fanatic since the late '60s, have only once ever come across any PB of any brand I found substandard. So I'm always open to trying the "little guys'" products.
I'm more familiar with store tactics than manufacturers', so I find GJ's comment about "chasing" competitors' products from the market interesting. Stores themselves will employ a "loss-leader" tactic to bring customers in. One that I worked for sold their "promo broom," a low-priced item designed to draw them in.
Something I will add though is that the name-brand producers' salespeople are oftentimes under an incentive program to get as much product into stores as possible. That's why we had tons of 60w Sylvania light bulbs in backstock, and an ass from VSI Fasteners dumped a giant cartload of screws & bolts on us that took forever to sort out.
Caroline13 02-03-2023, 10:24 PM So much junk stuff comes from China. What the companies all do are profits, bottom line. We have a horrid issue going on now with So Cal Gas company, talk about price gouging and SoCalGas did not answer their phone for the whole week.
GentlemanJim 02-04-2023, 03:19 AM I still believe in the market forces of supply and demand serving to even out prices to some extent. .
I believe that some business men acquire adept skill in spiking demand, and then cashing in.
People are a lot like a stampeding herd when there is uncertainty in the market place, and I believe some marketeers know how to prey upon that.
Suppose I manufacture "widgets" for example....let's suppose its a mature product line, one that used to be chiefly manufactured inn USA, but all my competition has offshored their production, and I am the last remaining dinosaur making widgets in the USA.
Lets say I have a tenuous hold on a 30% market share, and all my competition is beating me up with low prices, due to their lower labor costs....I am just barely keeping my head above water.
But, then like we had a couple years ago, lets say the west coast ports get all backed up, and suddenly my widgets are the only ones on store shelves Do I continue to produce a bare subsistence level of product priced competitively with the off shore guys? Or do I raise prices, go to 3 shifts, and milk the cow while it's in the barn?
NOW, the rub.....I've been enjoying a 35% premium do to my situational monopoly, for 6 months
Finally my competition untangles their source. and has product at last going back on store shelves...what Is their incentive? to "price bust" the market place, or will they say "gee, GJ has been getting a 35% premium, so why shouldn't we try the same?"
I believe that due to long term cut throat marketing tactics, prices get pulled down lower than any of the suppliers care to go, but they have stomped on their own feet trying to woo business away from the competition.
A good market pannic is an ideal excuse for them to reset their prices, and blame it on forces beyond their control. ;)
GentlemanJim 02-04-2023, 03:56 AM One other thought that occurred to me, it might be telling as to how ALL the Glade aerosol spray cans disappeared at the same time from 3 major retailers, all at once.
Makes me suspect there may have been a health issue requiring that they just quietly withdrew their product, without publicizing the hazard, and the "new and improved" product is actually a fix for that problem, priced sky high to help cover the cost of the recall?
just a thought.
stevea 02-04-2023, 10:48 PM Menard's might still have "Old" Glade.
2X fragrance for 2.5X price
GentlemanJim 02-05-2023, 03:28 PM Reading the instructions for the new product, they boast that shaking the can before use is no longer required. But there is also an "advisory" that after spraying one should "wipe floor, if damp"
Pretty much confirming my fallout observation earlier,...so they even know the product suxx.
Here's my estimation, the product is no longer sprayed like a true aerosol, instead it's like a powered "pump" type sprayer with a compressed air charge pushing the juice through a nozzle, similar in operation to those old hand pump garden sprayers.....except these cans have compressed air instead of a pump handle.
Seriously, I cant imagine ever buying another one of these, they don't do the job, and they rain fall out on floors and furniture. at over twice the previous price. :thumbsdow
stevea 02-05-2023, 05:59 PM I suspect S. C. Johnson will be forced back to the drawing board. This sounds like another New Coke from the 80s mess (for them).
And no Menards did not have Old Glade. Eventually the end runs will probably be at Big Lots, Dollar General, etc.
I wonder if this is the same story:
https://www.airwick.us/products/room-spray
GentlemanJim 02-05-2023, 06:40 PM Glad you mentioned end lots...Ever shop at Ollies? I need to check there for old stock
https://www.ollies.us/home.html
stevea 02-05-2023, 11:06 PM I just found four, and four only, old Glades at Meijer. The old Apple Cinnamon had a different UPC than the new one, so I price checked the old ones at .63.
So it might be worthwhile to check other Meijers if you really want it.
GentlemanJim 02-06-2023, 01:45 AM Thanks,....so out of curiosity, what did you find at Menards? Empty shelves, or only the updated Glade?
stevea 02-06-2023, 11:01 AM Thanks,....so out of curiosity, what did you find at Menards? Empty shelves, or only the updated Glade?
Menards had only the new Glade at 2.28. I couldn't investigate thoroughly since a person was in the way, stocking the shelves or inventorying.
GentlemanJim 02-06-2023, 11:42 AM It will be interesting, IMO, to see where their price is, 6 months from now.
GentlemanJim 02-06-2023, 12:31 PM Perhaps the retailers themselves are seeking a pricepoint where the product does NOT turn over as rapidly as it originally did, thus reducing the labor required to restock shelves? I know that seems counter intuitive, but I see exactly that happening in a number of product lines.
Products where you at one time considered yourself lucky to find in stock, chronically sold out, but now that the price increased....you seldom see them move at all.
Labor saving strategy? lol!
Caroline13 02-06-2023, 02:49 PM Perhaps the retailers themselves are seeking a pricepoint where the product does NOT turn over as rapidly as it originally did, thus reducing the labor required to restock shelves? I know that seems counter intuitive, but I see exactly that happening in a number of product lines.
Products where you at one time considered yourself lucky to find in stock, chronically sold out, but now that the price increased....you seldom see them move at all.
Labor saving strategy? lol!
GJ, you must have really loved this $1 Glade, you just can't stop talking about it.:lol::crazy:
GentlemanJim 02-06-2023, 03:22 PM GJ, you must have really loved this $1 Glade, you just can't stop talking about it.:lol::crazy:
I'm sorry Caroline, I understand that you believe that only items of interest to you are "important".
Thanks for sharing your internet with me, I'll try to be less selfish in the future. :confused:
Funny thing is the product has gone from one I bought frequently with high confidence because it served it's purpose so well, to a product that is no better than the generic krap you can buy in the dollartree type stores...
Weak "spurty" spray stream, smell that is gone 2 minutes after you finish spraying....utter and complete trash/.... now .at over twice the price.
SCJohnson has a "feedback" section on their website, that I thought about responding with my dissatisfaction, telling them how they had ruined a class product.
But then I decided not to. The current product is SO FAR INFERIOR to it's predecessor, that there is no way they could not be aware of the deficiencies.. They likely know better than I what a turd they have for a product.
SO, I suspect they would interpret my complaints as a pat on the back, "mission accomplished" etc. And I refuse to give them that satisfaction.
I'll vote with my wallet.
GentlemanJim 02-06-2023, 03:30 PM What I really used to like the old sprays for....two fragrances the "Hawaiian Breeze" and the "Joyful Citrus and Daisies" when sprayed together (one can in each hand), could leave behind a toxic bloom that could make even the most inconsiderate smoker repent.
And, since I quit smoking a year ago, I am particularly sensitive to the smell of smoke caused by others.
SO, for 97 cents a can, I had a convenient tool for revenge at my fingertips, affordable as well as effective.
Now the "new and improved" replacement product is neither.
Caroline13 02-06-2023, 10:53 PM GJ, priorities!!!!
GentlemanJim 02-07-2023, 02:45 AM GJ, priorities!!!!
What are you trying to say? Certainly you are not trying to imply that you are competent to set my priorities? :crazy:
Caroline13 02-07-2023, 04:00 PM No, I'm just saying priorities in general and what I believe are important and what I believe are not. That's all.... I know we don't share agreements.
GentlemanJim 02-07-2023, 05:09 PM It's a matter of relevance as much as it is priority. Doubling+ the price of products I buy regularly has more relevance to me than threads soliciting the number of browser tabs one has open,or what everyone ate/drank/watched/listened to "last", or proselytizing the benefits of "crystal gazer" style new age homeopathic remedies
I don't begrudge those who do enjoy those threads, they just seem to me like a total waste of time.
Zilch on Ollies BTW, as far as the merchandise pulled off shelves...they had a ton of Febreeze pump air fresheners, and some candles.
GentlemanJim 02-07-2023, 05:13 PM Now I'm bummed out wondering if Glade is going to degrade the 60 day spray cans that go in the battery operated timed room sprayers, as well?.....I've been using those for years
biffbronson 02-07-2023, 06:42 PM A Five Below store may be worth a try, but I wouldn't go out of my way if I were you. Christmas Tree Shops could possibly have Glade, but they price fairly high on supermarket-type products. Tuesday Morning stores sometimes have good deals, but it's unlikely you'd find Glade there.
I would suggest trying Big Lots, but in recent years they seem to have become like any other store -- where before, you'd be far more likely to find discontinued products or older overstock. Furthermore, what they do have is priced about the same as other retailers, for the most part.
Back about 25 years ago, I worked in a warehouse that stocked primarily candy, and the Big Lots buyer was getting scads of slow sellers for about $1 per case. My boss was happy to clear it out.
GentlemanJim 02-07-2023, 08:45 PM Besides, what could POSSIBLY be a higher priority than punishing smokers who disrespect the rules of the house?
GentlemanJim 02-08-2023, 11:11 AM GJ, priorities!!!!
You mean like CVS pharmacies acquiring yet another major health insurer (Oak Street Health)?
Looks like CVS has priorities....:D
Take the middle men completely out of the equation, and just connect the medicare cashflow directly in to their own bank accounts.
Probably a good thing, keep all the scheisters out of the loop entirely, and avoid confusion.
stevea 02-08-2023, 03:22 PM Home Depot (at least this one on High School Rd., Indpls.) had old-stock Glade, and no new Glade. There was not a lot, maybe 25 or so displayed, I did see a lot of lemon scent. Not a clearance price (it should have been!), dollar-forties, but better than the new.
They even had the Christmas scents in stock, on clearance.
A comment about a previous post: I don't think Glade will be able to keep their sprays at the 2.20-2.40 level. With Airwick at 1.25-1.50, competition will force it down.
GentlemanJim 02-09-2023, 05:33 PM I noticed that another SC Johnson product has been tampered with, as well. The Zip Loc brand of resealable storage containers (disposable tupperware, basically) has been price raised high enough that it will be difficult to regard them as "disposable" any longer. $4.49 for two medium-sized/deep containers.
These used to be so cheap that when microwaving a side dish it almost made sense to use these and avoid having to wash a durable pot., just heat and pitch...no more
GentlemanJim 02-09-2023, 05:57 PM I'm also distraught over a spike in paper towels.
Last several years I've bought the "2 = 5" (rolls) package size;... Jumbo rolls basically. Usually Bounty brand. Sometimes I get the store generic 2=5 packs, for about a dollar less
The quantification of what constitutes 5 rolls has always been a bit questionable, but I always found comfort in how tightly wound the rolls were, compared to the bargain brands which are often so loosely wound they felt "spongy"
Anyway, the 2=5 package provided 110 sq ft of towel...for about $6.50 Bounty brand.
Today at the store the packages were branded "2 = 6" (roll equivalent) FOR $7.50
Checking the square footage of the new larger package it only increased to 121 sq ft....so that "extra" roll you're paying an extra buck for, is only 11 sq ft. (compared to the 2=5 package)
The marketing people who think up these gimmicks are borderline crooks in my opinion.
But I suppose enough idiots look at that stuff and say "goodie, a whole EXTRA roll for only a buck"...And never bother to do the math?
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