I've been following this horrible near death football tragedy of this 24 yr old and I believe there is so much that we won't know. I have my theory.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/02/sports/football/damar-hamlin-bills-hit.html

I've been following this horrible near death football tragedy of this 24 yr old and I believe there is so much that we won't know. I have my theory.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/02/sports/football/damar-hamlin-bills-hit.html

I hope your theory is Commotio cordis, because that’s where all signs are pointing. Best to Damar…..

Commotio cordis (Latin, "agitation of the heart") is an often lethal disruption of heart rhythm that occurs as a result of a blow to the area directly over the heart (the precordial region) at a critical time during the cycle of a heartbeat.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commotio_cordis

What is cardiac arrest? What to know after Buffalo Bills player Damar Hamlin's hospitalization (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2023/01/03/what-is-cardiac-arrest-commotio-cordis-damar-hamlin/10982121002/)

It was scary to watch. It looked like he just got hit in the chest or heart. He was able to get up after making the tackle. Then he just fell back and collapsed.

All the real doctors and medical experts are saying commotio cordis.

Thoughts and prayers for Damar and his family.

We'll Never know the Real Reason, there are so many factors involved. He was dead and it took like 9 minutes to resusitate his heart, so I'm hearing. Just hearing now, no change and still in critical condition.

TJ, what does your "real doctors" comment mean?

His original goal was $2,500

Donations to Damar Hamlin’s toy drive exceed $4.6 million (https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/01/03/donations-to-damar-hamlins-toy-drive-exceed-4-6-million/)

We'll Never know the Real Reason, there are so many factors involved. He was dead and it took like 9 minutes to resusitate his heart, so I'm hearing. Just hearing now, no change and still in critical condition.

TJ, what does your "real doctors" comment mean?

"We'll never know the real reason" isn't a good reason for you to continue making threads like this with your wild speculation.

There aren't any other factors involved in this case. He wasn't on the sideline when this happened. Did you even watch the video?

I mean real doctors who aren't trying to push their agendas and conspiracy theories.

No matter what...pray for his family....

Yes I am...... I am very scared for all :(

Monday Night Football tragedy was the most upsetting football event ever broadcast (https://www.azcentral.com/story/entertainment/media/2023/01/03/how-espn-covered-damar-hamlin-collapse-bills-bengals/69772170007/)

Bill Goodykoontz
Arizona Republic

“We’re talking about life and death here. We’re getting further and further away from talking about football.”

That’s what Joe Buck (https://awfulannouncing.com/nfl/joe-buck-espn-defend-damar-hamlin-report-nfl-denial.html), part of ESPN’s broadcast team for “Monday Night Football,” (https://awfulannouncing.com/nfl/damar-hamlin-collapse-espn-coverage.html) said after the Buffalo Bills’ Damar Hamlin collapsed on the field after making a tackle in the first quarter of the game between the Bills and the Cincinnati Bengals.

And he was right.

Emergency medical staff administered CPR for several minutes; Hamlin was taken by ambulance to a hospital in Cincinnati, where the game was played. The Bills later released a statement saying Hamlin suffered a cardiac arrest, "his heartbeat was restored on the field" and he is sedated and in critical condition.

It was agonizing, terrifying, surreal — the biggest shock during live coverage of an NFL game since Howard Cosell announced the death of John Lennon during a Monday night game in 1980. And that, obviously, was not something that happened on the field. Buck, Troy Aikman and the ESPN broadcast crew handled it with the shock and concern the situation warranted.

It took the NFL more than an hour to suspend the game after Hamlin collapsed

“This is as heavy as it gets,” Scott Van Pelt said on his ESPN show after the game was suspended — a decision that took more than an hour, to the chagrin of social media as well as the broadcast team.

“As has been said many times already, who cares” about the game now, Buck said as he and everyone else waited for the NFL to make a decision. Any decision, though the correct one was obvious.

“This is about Damar Hamlin, his health and how he is at the moment, and what his status is,” Buck said.

What took the NFL so long to come to the same conclusion?

You know the answer. Money.

NFL games are by far the biggest ratings winners on broadcast TV, and calling off a game calls off a lot of advertising revenue. The Bills-Bengals matchup was the most attractive game of the season for “Monday Night Football,” which has suffered through some awful games since Buck and Aikman joined ESPN before the season started.

How CNN, Fox and MSNBC reacted to Damar Hamlin's collapse

Like with any breaking news story — and as soon as CPR was administered, this stopped being a sports story and absolutely became a news story — there was a frustrating lull once we learned all there was to know at that point.

CNN, Fox News and MSNBC all jumped in on live coverage and stayed with the story for hours. It soon became a waiting game, waiting for updates on Hamlin’s condition. This is a difficult part of reporting a story, particularly on TV, and in a competitive environment it can go wrong in about 50 different ways. Channel surfing isn’t a foolproof method of observation, but I didn't notice anyone at any of the networks jumping to irresponsible conclusions.

Buck and Aikman were saddled with a lot of down time and little information — what Buck called “a holding pattern” — other than what they and everyone else had witnessed. That’s a particularly fraught situation, but they handled it well.

“I don’t think the players are going to want or be willing to go out and take the field until they know he’s OK,” Aikman said, later adding, “I just don’t know how any of these players can come out and play football tonight.”

Tragedy and shocking injury are not unknown to live sporting events. Joe Theismann’s famously snapped leg during “Monday Night Football” during 1985 was, for a generation, the biggest gut punch imaginable. In 1990 Loyola Marymount basketball player Hank Gathers collapsed on the court during the West Coast Conference tournament and died later that day.

Ryan Clark's perspective on ESPN was especially welcome

But the enormous popularity of the NFL made this feel different. You could tell in the way Buck, Aikman, Van Pelt and sideline reporter Lisa Salters talked about the situation and the reaction. They seemed shellshocked; at one point Salters’ voice cracked, understandably so — she was down on the field when Hamlin collapsed.

Ryan Clark joined Van Pelt on ESPN after coverage of the game ceased. He was outstanding. A former player, he pulled no punches. “Tonight we got to see a side of football that is extremely ugly,” Clark said. “A side of football that no one ever wants to see, or never wants to admit exists.”

We have to admit it now. It will be interesting to see whether this changes the way we watch. An incident like this is one of those things, as several commentators alluded to, that we know in the back of our minds can happen, but we assume won’t.

“This is not a football issue,” Van Pelt said. “It’s not a Buffalo issue or a Cincinnati issue or a sports issue. It’s a human being issue.”

As Clark suggested, it always has been. We just choose to ignore it.

No longer.

Dude: This Blue Marble has an extensiive post on this " unusual" near death event of Damar. And many of them who watch so much football for so much of their lives, say
they never saw anything like what Damar went thru.

Correction Dude: I read the extensive thread on the Seniors forum I'm a member. Now I'll go check The Blue Marble to see what they are saying about t his "unusual" accident.

We'll Never know the Real Reason, there are so many factors involved. He was dead and it took like 9 minutes to resusitate his heart, so I'm hearing. Just hearing now, no change and still in critical condition.

TJ, what does your "real doctors" comment mean?

Caroline13,

Why did you put "Football Accident" in your thread title? You know this wasn't a vaccine related injury.

Would you agree that if a player gets violently hit in his/her chest or heart with a helmet, baseball, puck or any type of ball that it could cause commotio cordis?

Oh TJ: It's a major football tagedy, that is why. And there is more and more speculation WHY as the days go on. Since Damar is in a brain induced coma, will he ever be the same if he comes out ot?

Pray for this young man.

Oh TJ: It's a major football tagedy, that is why. And there is more and more speculation WHY as the days go on. Since Damar is in a brain induced coma, will he ever be the same if he comes out ot?

Pray for this young man.

You can't even answer the questions.

Can you please tell me any well known doctor or cardiologist who says his cardiac arrest was caused by the vaccines and not the violent hit to his chest or heart?

People have never seen anything like it happen because it's such a rare event.

Watch this video where it happened to a hockey player after he was struck by a puck in his chest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S1Dfs8hgR4

I don’t believe a pre existing heart condition is necessary for what happened. It involves a bad timing series of events that’s rare but common enough to have a name ———

Commotio cordis (Latin, "agitation or disruption of the heart") is an often lethal disruption of heart rhythm that occurs as a result of a blow to the area directly over the heart (the precordial region) at a critical time during the cycle of a heartbeat.


Usa Today says:
It is usually caused by abnormalities of the heart, which are often inherited but can remain undiagnosed and go undetected.

Oh USA Today is a great authority.

Did anyone read the doctor's summary on Why The Sudden Collapse?????

Probably not.

Please keep covid/vax discussion off this thread. Nothing new or productive is coming out of this tangent. Also please be respectful to other members.

Originally Posted by USA Today
It is usually caused by abnormalities of the heart, which are often inherited but can remain undiagnosed and go undetected.

That part can be determined after he hopefully pulls through. But I doubt anyone actually watching the game saw him go down and screamed “Oh my god the vaccine got him!!”

Please try keep this thread to only updates on Damar's condition. We don't need any more talk about the vaccines or wild speculation. I'm sure they will release more information on his health soon.

I edited the thread title.

Uncle says Damar Hamlin still 'fighting,' family grateful for support
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35372063/damar-hamlin-family-grateful-support-seeks-prayers

His original goal was $2,500

Donations to Damar Hamlin’s toy drive exceed $4.6 million (https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/01/03/donations-to-damar-hamlins-toy-drive-exceed-4-6-million/)

Update—- nearing $6 million. Here’s his page

https://www.gofundme.com/f/mxksc-the-chasing-ms-foundation-community-toy-drive?pc=tw_social&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=bcgfm_tw_fund_mxksc-the-chasing-ms-foundation-community-toy-drive

Here’s a story I wasn’t familiar with. Let’s hope we don’t add to the list.

One NFL player has died on the field. His widow watched Damar Hamlin’s collapse in horror. (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/sports/one-nfl-player-died-field-widow-watched-damar-hamlins-collapse-horror-rcna64016)


On Oct. 24, 1971, Chuck Hughes, 28, a wide receiver for the Detroit Lions, took the place of an injured teammate in the fourth quarter of a game against the Chicago Bears. With the Lions down 28-23, Hughes caught a 32-yard pass — his first catch that season — and was tackled. Several plays later, with 62 seconds left in the game, he fell facedown to the ground, clutching his chest.

That part can be determined after he hopefully pulls through. But I doubt anyone actually watching the game saw him go down and screamed “Oh my god the vaccine got him!!”

I've been so scared for Damar Hamlin. If he does pull through, I hope he doesn't become a vegetable. That would be a fate worse than death. I'm concerned because it took 9 minutes of CPR for him to become responsive. I hope there isn't any brain damage. Poor kid. This is all so sad.

I've been so scared for Damar Hamlin. If he does pull through, I hope he doesn't become a vegetable. That would be a fate worse than death. I'm concerned because it took 9 minutes of CPR for him to become responsive. I hope there isn't any brain damage. Poor kid. This is all so sad.

Very sad ! I'm thinking he might have had a heart condition he wasn't aware of and that tackle brought the cardiac arrest on ? :(

Anyway it totally does NOT have anything to do with a covid vacination !

Prayers he recovers completly , and you are right he was out for a long time, hopefully it doesn't affect him mentally! :( Many prayers for this young man !

I've been so scared for Damar Hamlin. If he does pull through, I hope he doesn't become a vegetable. That would be a fate worse than death. I'm concerned because it took 9 minutes of CPR for him to become responsive. I hope there isn't any brain damage. Poor kid. This is all so sad.

Very sad ! I'm thinking he might have had a heart condition he wasn't aware of and that tackle brought the cardiac arrest on ? :(

Anyway it totally does NOT have anything to do with a covid vacination !

Prayers he recovers completly , and you are right he was out for a long time, hopefully it doesn't affect him mentally! :( Many prayers for this young man !
Yeah, doesn’t sound good. His uncle says he’s been revived two times.

Yeah, doesn’t sound good. His uncle says he’s been revived two times.

Wow !!:( Many, many prayers for Damar and his family !!

Very sad we cant talk about truth of whats been going on...

The amount of money that professional athetes make is obscene but NFL players almost deserve the compensation because of how dangerous the sport of football really is. This is the only sport where injury is part of it all. All the time we hear of players missing a game because of some injury incurred on the field. These injuries add up over time.

Someone needs to tell Tom Barady (or told him five years ago) that he needed to retire. All the money he made wont do him much good if he is in a wheelchair at 65 (or dead). Except for kickers, there needs to be a ten year limit on playing.

When I was college a player was paralyzed from the neck down tackling an opposing quarterback. He lived for about two or three years. The school built a small house for him to live in and did take care of his needs. But the poor guy was maybe 20 years old. Playing a game, and he himself was not going to play in the NFL. I love football but its dangerous and I wouldnt want my son (if I had one) playing it.

With Damar still critical, anyone want to talk about what the NFL does this weekend? Do they have their moment of prayer before the games and then send everyone out there to pound each other as usual? I can see that happening, but if there’s no positive change in his condition do they really make the Bills play?

I think a moment of prayer before the games would be appropriate.

The Bills vs. Bengals game had big playoff implications. If it was a meaningless game, they could just call it off now.

The Bills are only playing for seeding purposes. I think the Bills gut it out and play for Damar no matter what this weekend.

If the Chiefs beat the Raiders on Saturday, they will lock up the #1 seed if the Bills lose to the Patriots. The Bills would have the tiebreaker over the Chiefs if they both have 14 wins since they beat them in Week 6.

If the Bengals beat the Ravens this weekened, they will win the AFC North. I could see them just calling off Bills vs. Bengals if the Bills lose to the Patriots.

It gets complicated with different scenarios. I think they will wait for this weekend's results before making any decision.

Use the NFL Playoff Machine on ESPN:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/machine

I'm not sure if they could push back the start of Wild Card round.

I think a moment of prayer before the games would be appropriate.

The Bills vs. Bengals game had big playoff implications. If it was a meaningless game, they could just call it off now.

The Bills are only playing for seeding purposes. I think the Bills gut it out and play for Damar no matter what this weekend.

If the Chiefs beat the Raiders on Saturday, they will lock up the #1 seed if the Bills lose to the Patriots. The Bills would have the tiebreaker over the Chiefs if they both have 14 wins since they beat them in Week 6.

If the Bengals beat the Ravens this weekened, they will win the AFC North. I could see them just calling off Bills vs. Bengals if the Bills lose to the Patriots.

It gets complicated with different scenarios. I think they will wait for this weekend's results before making any decision.

Use the NFL Playoff Machine on ESPN:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/machine

I'm not sure if they could push back the start of Wild Card round.

There's a "life goes on" aspect to all tragedies (and the worst hasn't happened here yet) but the NFL needs to tread that fine line between moving the business forward but still showing Hamlin's the most important thing. Remember when JFK got assassinated and the NFL played two days later? Pete Rozelle's biggest regret.

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/days-jfk-assassination-nfl-played-article-1.1526740



The Bills and Bengals Monday and this weekend were just playing for seeding, so they'll probably just never finish the Bengals game, do whatever tiebreaker they want to use if necessary. But this Sunday's game with the Patriots affects a few other teams chances of making the playoffs directly, certain teams were Bills fans before Monday Night.......

(this written before Bills-Bengals game)

BOSTON -- For the Patriots, there are two paths to the playoffs.

The first one is as simple as simple gets: Beat the Bills, and they're in.

The second one ... well, the second one requires some help.

If the Patriots are not able to upset the Bills in Buffalo, they can still make the playoffs. They'll just need all three of these things to happen:

--Jets beat Dolphins

--Browns beat Steelers

--Jaguars beat Titans

That's not ideal, no, but it's still technically possible.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/patriots-can-make-the-playoffs-even-if-they-lose-to-bills-but-it-wont-be-easy/ar-AA15T4ks



So I say unless there's a turn for the worse Buffalo pulls out the "Let's do it for Damar", "It's what Damar would want" talk, and plays.

There's a "life goes on" aspect to all tragedies (and the worst hasn't happened here yet) but the NFL needs to tread that fine line between moving the business forward but still showing Hamlin's the most important thing. Remember when JFK got assassinated and the NFL played two days later? Pete Rozelle's biggest regret.

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/days-jfk-assassination-nfl-played-article-1.1526740



The Bills and Bengals Monday and this weekend were just playing for seeding, so they'll probably just never finish the Bengals game, do whatever tiebreaker they want to use if necessary. But this Sunday's game with the Patriots affects a few other teams chances of making the playoffs directly, certain teams were Bills fans before Monday Night.......

(this written before Bills-Bengals game)

BOSTON -- For the Patriots, there are two paths to the playoffs.

The first one is as simple as simple gets: Beat the Bills, and they're in.

The second one ... well, the second one requires some help.

If the Patriots are not able to upset the Bills in Buffalo, they can still make the playoffs. They'll just need all three of these things to happen:

--Jets beat Dolphins

--Browns beat Steelers

--Jaguars beat Titans

That's not ideal, no, but it's still technically possible.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/patriots-can-make-the-playoffs-even-if-they-lose-to-bills-but-it-wont-be-easy/ar-AA15T4ks



So I say unless there's a turn for the worse Buffalo pulls out the "Let's do it for Damar", "It's what Damar would want" talk, and plays.

Just came across this on the possibility of finishing the Bills-Bengals game (Mike Florio is a sportswriter/football commentator)

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That schedule makes sense if the Bills/Bengals game matters for seeding purposes. They should have eliminated the bye before the Super Bowl a long time ago.

Here’s a story I wasn’t familiar with. Let’s hope we don’t add to the list.

One NFL player has died on the field. His widow watched Damar Hamlin’s collapse in horror. (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/sports/one-nfl-player-died-field-widow-watched-damar-hamlins-collapse-horror-rcna64016)


On Oct. 24, 1971, Chuck Hughes, 28, a wide receiver for the Detroit Lions, took the place of an injured teammate in the fourth quarter of a game against the Chicago Bears. With the Lions down 28-23, Hughes caught a 32-yard pass — his first catch that season — and was tackled. Several plays later, with 62 seconds left in the game, he fell facedown to the ground, clutching his chest.


I didn't remember his name but I absolutely remember when this happened. I remembered that he was 28 and on the Lions, but that's it. J.V. Cain, of the St. Louis Cardinals, died during practice in 1979.

Hearing this morning, Demar is showing more signs of improvement, and I'm hearing from those reporting, it was a cardiac arrest, and as one member said here he may have had heart conditons but on that note I have to believe the sports doctors do thorough medical exams on their team players. Hopefully Demar will continue the improvements.

Hearing this morning, Demar is showing more signs of improvement, and I'm hearing from those reporting, it was a cardiac arrest, and as one member said here he may have had heart conditons but on that note I have to believe the sports doctors do thorough medical exams on their team players. Hopefully Demar will continue the improvements.

They do thorough medical exams on their team players. Cardiac arrest and deaths can still happen.

Since you live in California, you might remember the basketball player Hank Gathers. He played for Loyola Marymount.

He collapsed on the court in 1990. He had a heart condition and wasn't taking his medication. It was a very sad story. He was only 23.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Gathers

Reggie Lewis suffered sudden cardiac death on the basketball court in 1993 at the age of 27 years old.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reggie_Lewis

Deaths from cardiomyopathy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Deaths_from_cardiomyopathy

From the Bills this morning....

Bills announce Damar Hamlin showing 'remarkable improvement,' appears to be 'neurologically intact' (https://sports.yahoo.com/bills-announce-damar-hamlin-showing-remarkable-improvement-appears-to-be-neurologically-intact-160636440.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmluZy5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAALUEdT8Gkvfh9pAdJmFH5ivGskjKMk9u1QEKEitW2PNBfxAFwhIXw6PmY_FmhxfA4G5nah9Ty2Sm7zAUzquYV1aTqNkyBFyluWj4FhYRlVVdbibAj0kTkzvjnEX-ONJvFYPszyl5-z77MgOmotzeFJDZt5wI4Q4w9ndv13PteGgY)

Hearing this morning, Demar is showing more signs of improvement, and I'm hearing from those reporting, it was a cardiac arrest, and as one member said here he may have had heart conditons but on that note I have to believe the sports doctors do thorough medical exams on their team players. Hopefully Demar will continue the improvements.

If you're going to participate in here, may I request you get the name right? Damar, not Demar. Thanks.

Damar Hamlin - Buffalo Bills football player

DeMar DeRozan - Chicago Bulls basketball player

That schedule makes sense if the Bills/Bengals game matters for seeding purposes. They should have eliminated the bye before the Super Bowl a long time ago.

The debate continues. Considering where we are in the season, going to have to make a decision pretty soon

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If you're going to participate in here, may I request you get the name right? Damar, not Demar. Thanks.

Oh excuse me and forgive me, I made an error on spelling Damar's name, thanks for calling me on this. :D

TJ, I may live in CA but have not following the teams and deaths etc. I was very into the LA Lakers, Jerry West et al, but with other stuff in my life happening, the sports world was not high up there.

From the Bills this morning....

Bills announce Damar Hamlin showing 'remarkable improvement,' appears to be 'neurologically intact' (https://sports.yahoo.com/bills-announce-damar-hamlin-showing-remarkable-improvement-appears-to-be-neurologically-intact-160636440.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmluZy5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAALUEdT8Gkvfh9pAdJmFH5ivGskjKMk9u1QEKEitW2PNBfxAFwhIXw6PmY_FmhxfA4G5nah9Ty2Sm7zAUzquYV1aTqNkyBFyluWj4FhYRlVVdbibAj0kTkzvjnEX-ONJvFYPszyl5-z77MgOmotzeFJDZt5wI4Q4w9ndv13PteGgY)
Thank goodness. :)

Im glad he is better!!!

Damar Hamlin’s first question after waking up was ‘Did we win?’

“Did we win?” Hamlin scribbled on a clipboard, according to Dr. Timothy Pritts, vice chair for clinical operations at UC Health.

“Yes, Damar, you won. You’ve won the game of life,” Pritts said at a news conference in Cincinnati Thursday afternoon, paraphrasing the response of one of his medical partners.

https://wnynewsnow.com/2023/01/05/damar-hamlins-first-question-after-waking-up-was-did-we-win/

Firstly, Bills- Bengals officially canceled

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Secondly, seems the NFL is starting to overthink things. Just find the fairest tiebreaker(s) and just go with that for seeding

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Damar Hamlin’s first question after waking up was ‘Did we win?’

“Did we win?” Hamlin scribbled on a clipboard, according to Dr. Timothy Pritts, vice chair for clinical operations at UC Health.

“Yes, Damar, you won. You’ve won the game of life,” Pritts said at a news conference in Cincinnati Thursday afternoon, paraphrasing the response of one of his medical partners.

https://wnynewsnow.com/2023/01/05/damar-hamlins-first-question-after-waking-up-was-did-we-win/

So sweet !! Very glad Damar is doing better !! Still many prayers for a complete recovery !! :):heart:

Buffalo Bills trainer Denny Kellington saved Damar Hamlin's life on the field, head coach says

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/06/sport/denny-kellington-bills-damar-hamlin-cpr/index.html

With Hamlin improving, some updates from the football side of things

Owners Approve Proposal Modifying AFC Playoff Bracket

Following a Friday meeting, the NFL’s proposal to modify the AFC playoff bracket in certain circumstances — in the aftermath of the Bills-Bengals game being ruled a no-contest — passed and will be implemented this season, Tom Pelissero of NFL.com reports (on Twitter).

Although the Bengals voiced persistent opposition, the proposal received the necessary 24 votes. The prospect of a neutral-site AFC championship game is now in play, along with a chance the Bengals and Ravens — in the event Baltimore defeats Cincinnati on Sunday and the teams meet again in the playoffs — decide home field via coin flip. The measure received 25 “yes” votes, according to Pro Football Talk’s Mike Florio (on Twitter).

To recap, the NFL’s canceling of Week 17’s Bills-Bengals game led to a series of adjustments being discussed. While it does not appear expanding the playoffs to prevent a potentially unearned bye gained traction, the neutral-site reality is a go. If the Chiefs and Bills meet in the AFC championship game, it will be played at a neutral location. Here are the scenarios in which the neutral-site modification will take effect:

-Buffalo, Kansas City both win or both tie this weekend: Bills vs. Chiefs AFC championship is at neutral site
-Buffalo, Kansas City both lose, Baltimore wins or ties: Bills vs. Chiefs AFC championship is at neutral site
-Buffalo, Kansas City both lose, Cincinnati wins: Bills/Bengals vs. Chiefs AFC championship is at neutral site

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2023/01/owners-approve-proposal-modifying-afc-playoff-bracket

Cancelling is not the correct answer, withdrawing is the correct answer, so leave it that was that Bengals won, 7-3, just for now, nothing else.

Damar Hamlin’s first question after waking up was ‘Did we win?’Ahhh God bless him Opus :)

Monday Night Football viewership jumped by 4 million viewers after Damar Hamlin’s suffered cardiac arrest on the field (https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/04/media/monday-night-football-ratings-espn-damar-hamlin/index.html#:~:text=The%20NFL%20showdown%20between%20the,23.8%20million%20viewers%2C%20according%20to)

The NFL showdown between the Cincinnati Bengals and Buffalo Bills, which was postponed in the first quarter after Bills safety Damar Hamlin (https://deadline.com/2023/01/damar-hamlin-injury-monday-night-football-viewership-surges-nfl-espn-abc-1235212238/) suffered (https://www.yahoo.com/now/monday-night-football-game-damar-212319812.html) a cardiac arrest and collapsed on the field, was the most-watched “Monday Night Football” telecast in ESPN history, averaging 23.8 million viewers, according to ...

Damar Hamlin’s first question after waking up was ‘Did we win?’

“Did we win?” Hamlin scribbled on a clipboard, according to Dr. Timothy Pritts, vice chair for clinical operations at UC Health.

“Yes, Damar, you won. You’ve won the game of life,” Pritts said at a news conference in Cincinnati Thursday afternoon, paraphrasing the response of one of his medical partners.

https://wnynewsnow.com/2023/01/05/damar-hamlins-first-question-after-waking-up-was-did-we-win/

Correction: The Bengals won, 7-3, as we put it this way for right now.

Damar Hamlin posts photo from hospital bed and live-tweets Buffalo Bills game a week after his collapse

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/08/sport/buffalo-bills-new-england-patriots-damar-hamlin-spt-intl/index.html

I hope he doesnt play anymore!!!!!! (His poor heart cant handle it)

Damar Hamlin's football career is over. Poor guy, but he spent four years in college at Pittsburgh, so I'm sure he'll fall back on something else that's good.

Damar Hamlin discharged after spending more than a week hospitalized due to a cardiac arrest

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/11/sport/damar-hamlin-buffalo-bills-hospital-release-spt/index.html

Good that Damar is home to continue recovery.

Firstly, Bills- Bengals officially canceled

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At this point, would it be insensitive to award the Bengals the 7-3 win over the Bills? And would both teams be out of the playoffs anyway regardless?

Latest on Damar's condition:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/damar-hamlin-still-requires-oxygen-faces-lengthy-recovery-spokesperson

Very sad Carole :(

Just viewed the 8 minute Video with Damar and Michael Strahan. From hearing Damar speak he was a 24 yr old strong, healthy, no heart issues, young man.

https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/News/video/damar-hamlin-speaks-remarkable-recovery-97076258?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

Yes its sad they forced him to get this.......

Yes its sad they forced him to get this.......

Just heard a commentary out of San Diego on Damar and I don't think I can say what they said ...

Just heard a commentary out of San Diego on Damar and I don't think I can say what they said ...

It would be better if you didn't say anything else about the subject. We don't need more wild speculation. This thread has run its course.

It sounds like Damar hopes to eventually play again one day. He has a long road ahead of him. Best wishes to him for his continued recovery.

Damar Hamlin's football career is over. Poor guy, but he spent four years in college at Pittsburgh, so I'm sure he'll fall back on something else that's good.

This post didn't age well. He has made a remarkable recovery.

Damar Hamlin makes Bills' initial 53-man roster
https://www.nfl.com/news/damar-hamlin-makes-bills-initial-53-man-roster

This post didn't age well. He has made a remarkable recovery.

Damar Hamlin makes Bills' initial 53-man roster
https://www.nfl.com/news/damar-hamlin-makes-bills-initial-53-man-roster

I was going to post that earlier but I had thought this thread was locked and I didn’t feel there was enough sports interest around here to start a new one about it.

Shame he’s gonna lose his first game this season in 2 weeks :)

Im glad he got better... Not many do,this shot ruins them :(