https://www.fame10.com/entertainment/soap-opera-characters-who-need-to-be-written-off-in-2023/

12. Esme Prince – GH

11. Paris Buckingham – B&B

10. Zende Forrester – B&B

9. Dr. Rolf – DOOL

8. Noah Newman – Y&R

7. Rafe Hernandez – DOOL

6. Ryan Chamberlain – GH

5. Sharon Rosales – Y&R

4. Leo Stark – DOOL

3. Gladys Corbin – GH

2. Wyatt Spencer – B&B

1. Diane Jenkins – Y&R

This list is STUPID.

This list is STUPID.
Ditto. Diane Jenkins brings the only drama to this show. If they had her hook up with Tucker again it would bring even more great drama. Could you imagine Ashley, Phyllis, Nikki and the rest finding that out? They’d have a heart attack. :lol:

As for Sharon. she doesn’t necessarily need to be written off, she just needs to be used more. How about having her out and trying to find her estranged father? Or have Nick break up with Sally and get back with her.

Ditto. Diane Jenkins brings the only drama to this show. If they had her hook up with Tucker again it would bring even more great drama. Could you imagine Ashley, Phyllis, Nikki and the rest finding that out? They’d have a heart attack. :lol:

As for Sharon. she doesn’t necessarily need to be written off, she just needs to be used more. How about having her out and trying to find her estranged father? Or have Nick break up with Sally and get back with her.

I am very much enjoying Diane Jenkins, too. As for those cows, Nicky, Phyllis and Ashley... they can suck it!

As for Sharon and Nick.... I always thought those two might be endgame. I always want Sharon to be happy.

I am very much enjoying Diane Jenkins, too. As for those cows, Nicky, Phyllis and Ashley... they can suck it!

As for Sharon and Nick.... I always thought those two might be endgame. I always want Sharon to be happy.
How would you feel about Adam getting over Sally and going back to Sharon? I would dread that. :lol: And since both of them are single, what about Jack and Victoria?

How would you feel about Adam getting over Sally and going back to Sharon? I would dread that. :lol: And since both of them are single, what about Jack and Victoria?

I think Sharon is way too good for Adam. I'd rather see her with Nick. I wouldn't like a Jack/Victoria pairing. I think Nate/Victoria might be in the works. He put off dinner with Elena so he could talk "business" with Victoria. He would rather be with that dragon lady.

He would rather be with that dragon lady.
:rotflmao:

I bet you’d love to be that dragon lady since it looks like Nate and Victoria are getting together. :lol:

Speaking of Y&R, do you remember Kelly Andrews? I think she was the one that slept with Billy and went crazy over Jack. Do you remember that? It’s a shame they killed her off because I liked Cady McClain I’m the role. Maybe they’ll do a Sheila Carter with her and bring her over to Los Angeles on B&B after faking her death or something like that.

:rotflmao:

I bet you’d love to be that dragon lady since it looks like Nate and Victoria are getting together. :lol:

Speaking of Y&R, do you remember Kelly Andrews? I think she was the one that slept with Billy and went crazy over Jack. Do you remember that? It’s a shame they killed her off because I liked Cady McClain I’m the role. Maybe they’ll do a Sheila Carter with her and bring her over to Los Angeles on B&B after faking her death or something like that.

You're right. I wouldn't mind being dragon lady in a make out scene with Nate. He's pretty handsome.
I like Cady McClain too. I liked her when she replaced Jennifer Deveraux in DOOL recently and many years ago, she was good in (I forget which one) As the World Turns or One Life To Live. For YR, the name Kelly Andrews does sound framiliar. Maybe I'm just remembering her name coming up in conversation because I have no memory of some nut who slept with Billy and then went kookoo over Jack.

You're right. I wouldn't mind being dragon lady in a make out scene with Nate. He's pretty handsome.
I like Cady McClain too. I liked her when she replaced Jennifer Deveraux in DOOL recently and many years ago, she was good in (I forget which one) As the World Turns or One Life To Live. For YR, the name Kelly Andrews does sound framiliar. Maybe I'm just remembering her name coming up in conversation because I have no memory of some nut who slept with Billy and then went kookoo over Jack.
Kelly ended up sleeping with Billy after bonding with him over the fact that they both lost children I think. When Victoria found out she divorced Billy and grew closer to Stitch, Abby’s ex-husband and Kelly’s brother. Anyway, Kelly eventually started dating Jack while Phyllis was in the coma after falling down the stairs but Jack was still in love with Phyllis and went back to her after she returned from the coma. Kelly couldn’t take this and she ended up making a deal with Victor where Victor ended up hiring a Jack lookalike (Marco) to take Jack’s place and rape Phyllis while Kelly held Jack captive. For some reason, Jack decided to make love to Kelly once last time and he later woke up naked to find Kelly on the bed, bloody and deceased. I think Meredith Baxter from Family Ties guest starred on Y&R as Stitch and Kelly’s mom once. Also, it might jog your memory a bit for me to also tell you that Cynthia Watros from Guiding Light first played the role and that Cady McClain was a recast. I don’t know if all of this rings a bell or not but that’s basically all the storylines I can think of that the Kelly character was given.

BTW: I remember being pissed about David Tom being fired as Billy and being replaced by some 60 year old dude from a Hilary Swank movie because Cady McClain was too old for him apparently. :lol:

Kelly ended up sleeping with Billy after bonding with him over the fact that they both lost children I think. When Victoria found out she divorced Billy and grew closer to Stitch, Abby’s ex-husband and Kelly’s brother. Anyway, Kelly eventually started dating Jack while Phyllis was in the coma after falling down the stairs but Jack was still in love with Phyllis and went back to her after she returned from the coma. Kelly couldn’t take this and she ended up making a deal with Victor where Victor ended up hiring a Jack lookalike (Marco) to take Jack’s place and rape Phyllis while Kelly held Jack captive. For some reason, Jack decided to make love to Kelly once last time and he later woke up naked to find Kelly on the bed, bloody and deceased. I think Meredith Baxter from Family Ties guest starred on Y&R as Stitch and Kelly’s mom once. Also, it might jog your memory a bit for me to also tell you that Cynthia Watros from Guiding Light first played the role and that Cady McClain was a recast. I don’t know if all of this rings a bell or not but that’s basically all the storylines I can think of that the Kelly character was given.

BTW: I remember being pissed about David Tom being fired as Billy and being replaced by some 60 year old dude from a Hilary Swank movie because Cady McClain was too old for him apparently. :lol:
WOW!!! That really jogged my memory! I now remember everything completely! I totally forgot about that whole Marco story. "Marco" was so dumb. I hated that story. I do remember Meredith Baxter as the Stitch mom too. I can't believe I forgot about Kelly Andrews. Well, I remember everything now. Thanks for the recap. :wave:

WOW!!! That really jogged my memory! I now remember everything completely! I totally forgot about that whole Marco story. "Marco" was so dumb. I hated that story. I do remember Meredith Baxter as the Stitch mom too. I can't believe I forgot about Kelly Andrews. Well, I remember everything now. Thanks for the recap. :wave:
You’re welcome. :wave:

BTW: Since I brought up Kelly and Billy, did you David Tom and Burgess Jenkins (the 60 year old man) in the role of Billy? Sorry if I’m boring you, I’m just interested in your opinion. I think your response would be funny. :lol:

You’re welcome. :wave:

BTW: Since I brought up Kelly and Billy, did you David Tom and Burgess Jenkins (the 60 year old man) in the role of Billy? Sorry if I’m boring you, I’m just interested in your opinion. I think your response would be funny. :lol:

I do remember David Tom and Burgess Jenkins. Burges Jenkins was a ridiculous choice. I preferred David Tom. I don't much care for Jason Thompson. My favorite "Billy" was Billy Miller. IMO, he was flawlessly beautiful/handsome and the hottest soap actor (JMO) Now, I guess the best looking guy on YR is the "Noah" actor. He's so young though. Nate and Adam are also super handsome, but nobody beats Billy Miller! :lol::cool:;)

Sorry if I’m boring you BTW, you could never bore me discussing the soaps! :):wave:

I do remember David Tom and Burgess Jenkins. Burges Jenkins was a ridiculous choice. I preferred David Tom. I don't much care for Jason Thompson. My favorite "Billy" was Billy Miller. IMO, he was flawlessly beautiful/handsome and the hottest soap actor (JMO) Now, I guess the best looking guy on YR is the "Noah" actor. He's so young though. Nate and Adam are also super handsome, but nobody beats Billy Miller! :lol::cool:;)
Burgess looked as old as Peter Bergman and Billy is supposed to be younger than Victoria. I liked him a little better than Jason but it was still stupid.

BTW, you could never bore me discussing the soaps! :):wave:
That’s nice to hear. :wave:

Burgess looked as old as Peter Bergman and Billy is supposed to be younger than Victoria. I liked him a little better than Jason but it was still stupid.

Yeah, I agree about Jason. He's barely average looking and they replace the gorgeous Billy Miller with Jason? At least David Tom was above average looking, but maybe not as good of an actor as Jason? Jason's acting is good, he's just not good looking IMO.

You know who I was thinking about the other day? Remember you used to call Tara Locke "Bag Lady"? :lol: Well, I was thinking when she gets out of prison, will she go after Summer for being a mother to Harrison? And will she try to get custody back from Summer and Kyle?

Yeah, I agree about Jason. He's barely average looking and they replace the gorgeous Billy Miller with Jason? At least David Tom was above average looking, but maybe not as good of an actor as Jason? Jason's acting is good, he's just not good looking IMO.

You know who I was thinking about the other day? Remember you used to call Tara Locke "Bag Lady"? :lol: Well, I was thinking when she gets out of prison, will she go after Summer for being a mother to Harrison? And will she try to get custody back from Summer and Kyle?
Oh yeah, Bag Lady. :lol: Hopefully Kyle will turn out not to be Harrison’s real father because I found it ridiculous that Kyle was banging a woman old enough to be his aunt and the show never addressed it.

Speaking of Jason Thompson being Billy, could you imagine Billy Miller’s Billy having sex with Michelle Stafford’s Phyllis, his brother’s wife? His Billy was NEVER that close to Michelle’s Phyllis, they tolerated each other but they were never best friends and they would never screw. I remember laughing out loud when Billy painted The Chancellor Mansion blue and was staying there and Jill walked in one day on Billy and Phyllis coming from the bedroom upstairs after getting busy. The look on her face. :rotflmao:

BTW: Imagine Jason Thompson’s Billy being your brother-in-law and you decide to let him get hot and heavy with you all the way down the stairs at Chancellor Mansion. It’s just the two of you, and Jason Thompson’s Billy is all over you like a dog in heat. No Jack, no Jill, just no one but you and Billy (Jason Thompson’s Billy may I remind you), and the two of you promise each other to NOT tell a SOUL. I bet that visualization has got a woman like you waiting for Jason Thompson to knock on your door and give you the time of day. :rotflmao:

I bet that visualization has got a woman like you waiting for Jason Thompson to knock on your door and give you the time of day. :rotflmao::barf::barf::barf:

But if it was Billy Miller, I'd be all like "come in, PLEASE." :heart:

You lust after any YRers?

Oh, I also wish they would have addressed Kyle getting it on with a hag like Tara!

:barf::barf::barf:

But if it was Billy Miller, I'd be all like "come in, PLEASE." :heart:

You lust after any YRers?

Oh, I also wish they would have addressed Kyle getting it on with a hag like Tara!
I suppose I lust after Mishael Morgan and the woman who plays Sally. Diane is one hot mama also. She could get it big time, even if she’s like 10 years older than me. I used to be in love with Michelle Stafford years ago but her slutty character kinda makes her less attractive.

LOL @ you saying you’d tell Billy Miller to come in please. :lol: It obviously is a thing that heterosexual males can’t quite fathom but I actually find it kinda hilarious yet puzzling that lots of women have crushes on certain actors and actually like to think about shouting and rolling around in the bed with them. :lol: But, men experience similar things, I guess.

Speaking of, I know he’s older, but you don’t have a crush on Eric Braeden (Victor Newman)? I thought for sure his testosterone issues would drive you crazy. :lol: Or what about the Malcom recast, Eddie Winslow?

I suppose I lust after Mishael Morgan and the woman who plays Sally. Diane is one hot mama also. She could get it big time, even if she’s like 10 years older than me. I used to be in love with Michelle Stafford years ago but her slutty character kinda makes her less attractive.

LOL @ you saying you’d tell Billy Miller to come in please. :lol: It obviously is a thing that heterosexual males can’t quite fathom but I actually find it kinda hilarious yet puzzling that lots of women have crushes on certain actors and actually like to think about shouting and rolling around in the bed with them. :lol: But, men experience similar things, I guess.

Speaking of, I know he’s older, but you don’t have a crush on Eric Braeden (Victor Newman)? I thought for sure his testosterone issues would drive you crazy. :lol: Or what about the Malcom recast, Eddie Winslow?I think the Malcolm recast (Eddie Winslow) is boring looking. He does nothing for me. The previous Malcolm (Shemar Moore) is super hot! And what a hot bod! Victor Newman? For a guy who is over 80 years old, the man is pretty damn hot. And I love his voice! He was crazy handsome back in his heyday. He's kinda intimidating too which can be sexy.
I get what you say about Mishael Morgan. She's gorgeous and the woman who plays "Sally" (Courtney Hope) is also very attractive, terrific figure too. She seems to be the most physically fit of the ladies. I think Summer is very beautiful. The Audra character wears too much make-up IMO. Oh, what you said about Diane... yes, she is a very attractive mature woman. She's better looking than those three jackals who are trying to take her down too!

He's kinda intimidating too which can be sexy.
Speaking of getting turned on by intimidation, I turned the TV to one of my favorite shows last night and ended up going to sleep on it and I ended up waking up in the middle of the night and noticing two characters named Curtis and Ella playing Fireman Comes To The Rescue or something like that (the Curtis character is supposed to be a fire chief) and Ella started yelling “Rescue Meeeee!” and then their son walked in and was DISGUSTED. :lol:

Also, I know this is a little off topic, but I remember you mentioning having children. I was just curious, are they obsessed with this TikTok mess and these new trends of today? I just CAN’T get with that at all, it’s just stupid to me. But to each their own, I guess.

Speaking of getting turned on by intimidation, I turned the TV to one of my favorite shows last night and ended up going to sleep on it and I ended up waking up in the middle of the night and noticing two characters named Curtis and Ella playing Fireman Comes To The Rescue or something like that (the Curtis character is supposed to be a fire chief) and Ella started yelling “Rescue Meeeee!” and then their son walked in and was DISGUSTED. :lol:

Also, I know this is a little off topic, but I remember you mentioning having children. I was just curious, are they obsessed with this TikTok mess and these new trends of today? I just CAN’T get with that at all, it’s just stupid to me. But to each their own, I guess.
I have two daughters, age 13 (fraternal twins) and they are into a lot of that crazy stuff that I do not understand at all like tiktok, a lot of social media stuff, etc. They constantly make fun of me for "not being with it." :lol: They make fun of their father (my ex husband) for the same thing. :lol:

I have two daughters, age 13 (fraternal twins) and they are into a lot of that crazy stuff that I do not understand at all like tiktok, a lot of social media stuff, etc. They constantly make fun of me for "not being with it." :lol: They make fun of their father (my ex husband) for the same thing. :lol:
Oh, I wasn’t aware that you were once married. You must not mention it often. All I have to say about that subject is that I hope he didn’t cheat on you, because you seem like a great woman. Speaking of your two daughters, I have a nephew around that age. He’ll make 13 next month.

While we’re talking about stuff of today, do you like any music from today? I don’t care for most of it, because it’s mostly just different ways to talk about vagina and penis, and I have no interest in hearing such filth nonstop. I do kinda like “Under The Influence” by Chris Brown, because of the beat mostly. But Chris Brown as a person is a whole ‘nother story. I also did like a few of Beyoncé’s new songs, they’re okay. But what I also can’t stand about today’s music is older singers/artists trying to fit in with the music of today by making just about the same crap as everyone else. And I never really cared for her music, but Nicki Minaj is one of those older singers/artists. I don’t know if you heard her new song Super Freaky Girl, but it sounds terrible, and I can’t believe she sampled Rick James for such garbage.

Oh, I wasn’t aware that you were once married. You must not mention it often. All I have to say about that subject is that I hope he didn’t cheat on you, because you seem like a great woman. Speaking of your two daughters, I have a nephew around that age. He’ll make 13 next month.

While we’re talking about stuff of today, do you like any music from today? I don’t care for most of it, because it’s mostly just different ways to talk about vagina and penis, and I have no interest in hearing such filth nonstop. I do kinda like “Under The Influence” by Chris Brown, because of the beat mostly. But Chris Brown as a person is a whole ‘nother story. I also did like a few of Beyoncé’s new songs, they’re okay. But what I also can’t stand about today’s music is older singers/artists trying to fit in with the music of today by making just about the same crap as everyone else. And I never really cared for her music, but Nicki Minaj is one of those older singers/artists. I don’t know if you heard her new song Super Freaky Girl, but it sounds terrible, and I can’t believe she sampled Rick James for such garbage.My former husband did not cheat. We argued mostly about finances and just became estranged. Now, we are good friends. He's a great dad and a decent person. I have nothing bad to say about him.
As for today's music, I hate most of it. On thanksgiving, most of the entertainment during the half time shows for the football games... I never heard of these people! I have no use for young people music. I prefer the older stuff like Rolling Stones, The Who, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, B.B. King, Eric Clapton, Earth, Wind & Fire, Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, Van Halen, Aerosmith, Bob Marley, John Mellencamp, etc... too many to name. You mentioned Chris Brown. He is a very good singer, but a crappy person. My favorite song from him is probably "Forever." Beyonce has a few good songs too. I like Kelly Rowland. She was in Destiny's Child also. I like her duet with Nelly, "Dilemma." That's one of my favorite songs. I used to have a huge crush on Nelly, thought he was super hot. My first crush ever was when I was just 10 years old. I had a super-dooper major crush on David Lee Roth from Van Halen. :lol:

My former husband did not cheat. We argued mostly about finances and just became estranged. Now, we are good friends. He's a great dad and a decent person. I have nothing bad to say about him.
As for today's music, I hate most of it. On thanksgiving, most of the entertainment during the half time shows for the football games... I never heard of these people! I have no use for young people music. I prefer the older stuff like Rolling Stones, The Who, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, B.B. King, Eric Clapton, Earth, Wind & Fire, Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, Van Halen, Aerosmith, Bob Marley, John Mellencamp, etc... too many to name. You mentioned Chris Brown. He is a very good singer, but a crappy person. My favorite song from him is probably "Forever." Beyonce has a few good songs too. I like Kelly Rowland. She was in Destiny's Child also. I like her duet with Nelly, "Dilemma." That's one of my favorite songs. I used to have a huge crush on Nelly, thought he was super hot. My first crush ever was when I was just 10 years old. I had a super-dooper major crush on David Lee Roth from Van Halen. :lol:
Nice selection of singers. Some of them are my favorites as well. As for you having a crush on Nelly and David Lee Roth…that PUZZLES me a lot. :lol: Sorry. And yeah, I liked Dilemma too. That one was a classic. I personally think Kelly Rowland is VERY beautiful, even more prettier than Beyoncé. Yes, Beyoncé has a few good songs, but she’s gotten lazier over the years. I don’t know what the hell she was thinking when she came out with Drunk In Love a couple of years back. Have you heard that one, Wawwie? It’s not her best song. But back to what I was saying, there are a few good artists out today, but very few. Bruno Mars is still good to me after all this time, he’s in a group now called Silk Sonic. And there’s a new artist out called Steve Lacy. I kinda like his song Bad Habit. It’s decent. But what I can’t get with is trash artists like Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion and the rest of them.

Nice selection of singers. Some of them are my favorites as well. As for you having a crush on Nelly and David Lee Roth…that PUZZLES me a lot. :lol: Sorry. And yeah, I liked Dilemma too. That one was a classic. I personally think Kelly Rowland is VERY beautiful, even more prettier than Beyoncé. Yes, Beyoncé has a few good songs, but she’s gotten lazier over the years. I don’t know what the hell she was thinking when she came out with Drunk In Love a couple of years back. Have you heard that one, Wawwie? It’s not her best song. But back to what I was saying, there are a few good artists out today, but very few. Bruno Mars is still good to me after all this time, he’s in a group now called Silk Sonic. And there’s a new artist out called Steve Lacy. I kinda like his song Bad Habit. It’s decent. But what I can’t get with is trash artists like Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion and the rest of them.
David Lee Roth and Nelly is kinda funny. Talk about opposites...lol... but in my defense, the Roth crush was in the '80s and the Nelly crush was in the early 2000's. Two different time periods! LOL! I agree with you about Kelly Rowland. She really is very beautiful and I too also think she has always been prettier than Beyonce (unpopular opinion) but Kelly is more real looking and down to earth whereas Beyonce looks kinda fake IMO. Her song, Drunk In Love sucks! I never heard of Steve Lacy and I don't know of Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion (never heard of him or her or them, whatever) LOL. I guess I am old... 50 :lol::lol::lol: I know of Bruno Mars. He has a good singing voice. I never heard of the other one you mentioned, Silk Sonic. My dad is 75 and the newest music he likes is from Coldplay. Other than them, he prefers the older stuff.

David Lee Roth and Nelly is kinda funny. Talk about opposites...lol... but in my defense, the Roth crush was in the '80s and the Nelly crush was in the early 2000's. Two different time periods! LOL! I agree with you about Kelly Rowland. She really is very beautiful and I too also think she has always been prettier than Beyonce (unpopular opinion) but Kelly is more real looking and down to earth whereas Beyonce looks kinda fake IMO. Her song, Drunk In Love sucks! I never heard of Steve Lacy and I don't know of Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion (never heard of him or her or them, whatever) LOL. I guess I am old... 50 :lol::lol::lol: I know of Bruno Mars. He has a good singing voice. I never heard of the other one you mentioned, Silk Sonic. My dad is 75 and the newest music he likes is from Coldplay. Other than them, he prefers the older stuff.
My mom’s not really up to date with today’s music, the most recent singers she knows of are Chris Brown, Beyoncé, Rihanna, and others like that. Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion are both female rappers and their rapping sucks. I know because I got a radio channel called The Heat and all they play is those two all day. :rolleyes:

My mom’s not really up to date with today’s music, the most recent singers she knows of are Chris Brown, Beyoncé, Rihanna, and others like that. Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion are both female rappers and their rapping sucks. I know because I got a radio channel called The Heat and all they play is those two all day. :rolleyes:

The only female rapper that I ever really liked a lot was Left Eye's rapping (from TLC.) I liked TLC a lot back in the '90s.
You mentioned Rihanna. I don't care for her voice too much, but she's okay compared to most of the crap that's out today. This Cardi B. and that Stallion woman that you speak of sound awful!
Do you watch football? Packers and Eagles are still playing right now. 20-27, with an Eagles lead. Stupid Carrie Underwood sings the theme song before every game on Sunday nights. I can't stand her.

The only female rapper that I ever really liked a lot was Left Eye's rapping (from TLC.) I liked TLC a lot back in the '90s.
You mentioned Rihanna. I don't care for her voice too much, but she's okay compared to most of the crap that's out today. This Cardi B. and that Stallion woman that you speak of sound awful!
Do you watch football? Packers and Eagles are still playing right now. 20-27, with an Eagles lead. Stupid Carrie Underwood sings the theme song before every game on Sunday nights. I can't stand her.
I’m not really a football guy, I watch it every now and then, but I do get tired of hearing Carrie Underwood talk about “Sunday night!!!” every time I tune in.

As for Rihanna, yeah, she’s okay, but she’s gotten lazier with her songs over time. I just can’t believe that bastard Chris Brown put his hands on her. My favorite songs from Rihanna are probably Take a Bow, What’s My Name, Diamonds, and Stay. I can’t stand her songs Pour It Up and Bitch Better Have My Money though. Needed Me is mediocre at best. One more thing, while we’re on the subject of music, what do you think about Drake? You should probably be a bit familiar with some of his works, he became popular around 12 years ago or so I think. He’s okay, but he’s gotten much worse over the years.

I’m not really a football guy, I watch it every now and then, but I do get tired of hearing Carrie Underwood talk about “Sunday night!!!” every time I tune in.

As for Rihanna, yeah, she’s okay, but she’s gotten lazier with her songs over time. I just can’t believe that bastard Chris Brown put his hands on her. My favorite songs from Rihanna are probably Take a Bow, What’s My Name, Diamonds, and Stay. I can’t stand her songs Pour It Up and Bitch Better Have My Money though. Needed Me is mediocre at best. One more thing, while we’re on the subject of music, what do you think about Drake? You should probably be a bit familiar with some of his works, he became popular around 12 years ago or so I think. He’s okay, but he’s gotten much worse over the years.Drake is decent looking and had some okay songs a while ago, but I agree with you that he's gotten worse over the years.
Chris Brown was a total bastard to Rihanna. What he did to her was disgusting. Somebody should knock the ***** out of him! Rihanna is such a tiny little thing compared to any man. Men like Chris Brown need to feel what it's like to be beaten up by someone who is twice their size.
So we were talking about kids and marriage. I forgot to ask you if you have kids or if you are or have ever been married?

Drake is decent looking and had some okay songs a while ago, but I agree with you that he's gotten worse over the years.
Chris Brown was a total bastard to Rihanna. What he did to her was disgusting. Somebody should knock the ***** out of him! Rihanna is such a tiny little thing compared to any man. Men like Chris Brown need to feel what it's like to be beaten up by someone who is twice their size.
So we were talking about kids and marriage. I forgot to ask you if you have kids or if you are or have ever been married?
No, I don’t have any kids. I once was married but got divorced 13 years ago. I think the marriage lasted a little over four years.

Drake is decent looking and had some okay songs a while ago, but I agree with you that he's gotten worse over the years.
Chris Brown was a total bastard to Rihanna. What he did to her was disgusting. Somebody should knock the ***** out of him! Rihanna is such a tiny little thing compared to any man. Men like Chris Brown need to feel what it's like to be beaten up by someone who is twice their size.
So we were talking about kids and marriage. I forgot to ask you if you have kids or if you are or have ever been married?
Oh, and speaking of music, do you listen to Adele? I love that woman’s music. She has SUCH a voice. My favorite songs from her are Rolling In The Deep, Someone Like You, Water Under The Bridge, Send My Love (To Your New Lover) and Oh My God.

Oh, and speaking of music, do you listen to Adele? I love that woman’s music. She has SUCH a voice. My favorite songs from her are Rolling In The Deep, Someone Like You, Water Under The Bridge, Send My Love (To Your New Lover) and Oh My God.

Adele does have a nice voice. I really liked "Rolling In the Deep" the first time I heard it. She's a billion times more talented than that hillbilly honky-tonker Carrie Underwood who I'm forced to hear before Sunday night football games. Well, tonight's football game just ended. Packers lost. I know you don't care. :lol: OK, so the game is over. I need to get ready to turn in. Talk to you again soon! Have a nice night. :wave:

Anyway, back to the original topic, I do think that Noah on Y&R needs to be written out if they’re not doing anything with him.

Anyway, back to the original topic, I do think that Noah on Y&R needs to be written out if they’re not doing anything with him.
Noah's only purpose these days is to be manipulated by Audra and to play kissy-face with Ally.

Noah's only purpose these days is to be manipulated by Audra and to play kissy-face with Ally.
:lol: He’s like “Kissy kissy boo-boo, Allie.” And then when Audra walks in he’s like “I just came to calm my nerves, Audra. Why are you here?” And that’s EVERY time he’s onscreen. Pathetic.

Speaking of Y&R, do you find Peter Bergman attractive, Wawwie? I was hoping for sure you’d want to get it big time from him. :lol: Do you remember how he sat Phyllis on that desk at Restless Style after she published the article about Diane and had hate sex with her? Diane walked in during the aftermath and I remember her ranting and raving. LOL.

Speaking of Y&R, do you find Peter Bergman attractive, Wawwie? I do think Peter Bergman is a handsome man. He was a guest on "The Nanny" back in the 90s when Nanny Fine landed a role on Y&R because her friend got fired from the gig. Eric Braeden also made a guest appearance on "The Nanny" but it had nothing to do with Y&R. He played the part of a Broadway producer and his bratty son spent the day with Nanny Fine and the little Sheffield girl.

I do think Peter Bergman is a handsome man. He was a guest on "The Nanny" back in the 90s when Nanny Fine landed a role on Y&R because her friend got fired from the gig. Eric Braeden also made a guest appearance on "The Nanny" but it had nothing to do with Y&R. He played the part of a Broadway producer and his bratty son spent the day with Nanny Fine and the little Sheffield girl.
I think I remember watching both episodes. Yeah, I’ve watched a good bit of The Nanny but I’m tired of seeing it now.

BTW: I’ve always wanted to ask you, who’s your favorite Adam on Y&R: Is it Chris Engen, Michael Muhney, Justin Hartley, or Mark Grossman?

BTW: I’ve always wanted to ask you, who’s your favorite Adam on Y&R: Is it Chris Engen, Michael Muhney, Justin Hartley, or Mark Grossman?Jeez.... I really wish Michael Muhney wasn't a sex pervert who got fired for assault because he was my favorite. Justin Hartley was okay, but he definitely wasn't as good as Muhney. IMO, Mark Grossman is better than Hartley. I also think he is the best looking "Adam" but I did prefer Muhney's acting. Well, he deserved to get fired for assaulting Hunter King. Oh, I don't remember Chris Engen (before my time watching YR.) Who was your favorite Adam?

Jeez.... I really wish Michael Muhney wasn't a sex pervert who got fired for assault because he was my favorite. Justin Hartley was okay, but he definitely wasn't as good as Muhney. IMO, Mark Grossman is better than Hartley. I also think he is the best looking "Adam" but I did prefer Muhney's acting. Well, he deserved to get fired for assaulting Hunter King. Oh, I don't remember Chris Engen (before my time watching YR.) Who was your favorite Adam?
Justin Hartley was my favorite, with Michael as a close second. Mark Grossman is right behind and Chris wasn’t on long enough for me to decide. Did you know that Chris quit because of the homosexual storyline between Adam and Rafe? Apparently, it was against his religion. I wonder if Michael and the guy who played Rafe even really kissed because I don’t believe they showed it onscreen.

As for Michael Muhney and Hunter King, yes, Michael is a pervert and a huge pig. And to this day he still says he didn’t fool with her at all. :rolleyes: The fact that Hunter hasn’t said a word says everything.

Who’s your favorite Phyllis: Michelle Stafford or Gina Tognoni? I prefer Michelle’s version a bit more because Gina’s was out of character for Phyllis, but I think that Gina is the better actress.

Did you know that Chris quit because of the homosexual storyline between Adam and Rafe? Apparently, it was against his religion.
:rolleyes:

Who’s your favorite Phyllis: Michelle Stafford or Gina Tognoni? I prefer Michelle’s version a bit more because Gina’s was out of character for Phyllis, but I think that Gina is the better actress.

Michelle Stafford is very good but sometimes she can be a bit over the top. Gina is more consistent. And even though she has a completely different style, I do prefer her as an actress. My vote goes to Gina.

It looks like Lily and Daniel might get back together since Billy is so preoccupied with Chelsea.

I haven't watched today's episode yet. I usually watch it the following morning. I was able to catch BB. Steffy interrupted the Ridge/Taylor wedding and now Ridge knows that it was Thomas who framed Brooke for that CPS call. Have you been watching?

:rolleyes:



Michelle Stafford is very good but sometimes she can be a bit over the top. Gina is more consistent. And even though she has a completely different style, I do prefer her as an actress. My vote goes to Gina.

It looks like Lily and Daniel might get back together since Billy is so preoccupied with Chelsea.

I haven't watched today's episode yet. I usually watch it the following morning. I was able to catch BB. Steffy interrupted the Ridge/Taylor wedding and now Ridge knows that it was Thomas who framed Brooke for that CPS call. Have you been watching?
Didn’t watch today’s shows of Y&R or B&B, but I did watch all of last week’s episodes and it seemed like things were getting interesting on B&B regarding Ridge and Taylor’s wedding.

I have a question for you, Wawwie, and the Chris Engen situation made me come up with this one: Say you were an actress on the #1 daytime soap opera called The Fat and The Foolish or The Time of Day or Holy Grail or whatever the name would be, where characters come back from the dead played by actresses/actors who are too young and horribly miscast for the role, and where all the characters are married 75 times, and where people are possessed by the devil and have kids that go from being 2 to 16 in a matter of months, with all of that being said, let’s say that one day TPTB walked up to you and reveal that they’ve been proposing a storyline where your character gets swept off her feet by another female character, played by, you guessed it, a woman. Would you go through with all the love scenes and kissing? And how do you think your dad and family and friends overall would think about it?

Didn’t watch today’s shows of Y&R or B&B, but I did watch all of last week’s episodes and it seemed like things were getting interesting on B&B regarding Ridge and Taylor’s wedding.

I have a question for you, Wawwie, and the Chris Engen situation made me come up with this one: Say you were an actress on the #1 daytime soap opera called The Fat and The Foolish or The Time of Day or Holy Grail or whatever the name would be, where characters come back from the dead played by actresses/actors who are too young and horribly miscast for the role, and where all the characters are married 75 times, and where people are possessed by the devil and have kids that go from being 2 to 16 in a matter of months, with all of that being said, let’s say that one day TPTB walked up to you and reveal that they’ve been proposing a storyline where your character gets swept off her feet by another female character, played by, you guessed it, a woman. Would you go through with all the love scenes and kissing? And how do you think your dad and family and friends overall would think about it?
That's what a real actor does. So if I was an actor, then yes, I would act the "role." It's called acting and I made the :rolleyes: emoji for Chris Engen because evidently he's not a real actor who could handle any role. That's the whole point of acting. It's pretend. And if you can make the audience believe in your performance, then you are a true talent. Engen is not talented. If he was, he would have acted out that storyline.

If I was an actor, my parents would support me in any role as long as it wasn't pornographic...lol

That's what a real actor does. So if I was an actor, then yes, I would act the "role." It's called acting and I made the :rolleyes: emoji for Chris Engen because evidently he's not a real actor who could handle any role. That's the whole point of acting. It's pretend. And if you can make the audience believe in your performance, then you are a true talent. Engen is not talented. If he was, he would have acted out that storyline.

If I was an actor, my parents would support me in any role as long as it wasn't pornographic...lol
LOL, porn is a different story. :lol: I suppose I kinda agree with you by the way but I’d hate to see you turn into a “Richard Von Drake” toy if you were an actress. :lol:

Anyways, another reason I was asking is because the people of the church seem to be really disgusted by things like that and I was also wondering if that would make you a little uncomfortable/anxious since I’m assuming you’re a Christian.

LOL, porn is a different story. :lol: I suppose I kinda agree with you by the way but I’d hate to see you turn into a “Richard Von Drake” toy if you were an actress. :lol:
Richard Von Drake = :barf: :lol:

Anyways, another reason I was asking is because the people of the church seem to be really disgusted by things like that and I was also wondering if that would make you a little uncomfortable/anxious since I’m assuming you’re a Christian.Homosexuality being against any religion is ridiculous. It's like banning everyone from church who has blue eyes. You can't control the color of eyes you were born with just like you can't control being born a homosexual. I don't belong to any religion. Not for me. I especially don't care for guilt based religions that shall remain nameless. Any "religion" that shames people for being gay is sick.

Richard Von Drake = :barf: :lol:

Homosexuality being against any religion is ridiculous. It's like banning everyone from church who has blue eyes. You can't control the color of eyes you were born with just like you can't control being born a homosexual. I don't belong to any religion. Not for me. I especially don't care for guilt based religions that shall remain nameless. Any "religion" that shames people for being gay is sick.
I’m a Christian but I don’t shame people for the way they live their lives. What sense does it make to scream “repent” when someone says they’re gay even though they might have tried to repent and it only made their life much more miserable? God loves all of us and the Bible that these Bible-thumpers follow specifically says not to judge, you’d think these magnificent Christians who judge would realize that. I don’t know if this is too personal to ask but I’m guessing you’re an atheist maybe…or possibly a deist or something along the lines of that? Nothing wrong with that though, I guess. It’s your life.

Anyway, sadly, there are a lot of people like Richard Von Drake, famous, well known, rich, middle class, OR poor: Perverted, self-loathing sex creeps who don’t live their true lives just to appease the homophobes, bigots, and monsters of the world, so they roll around the bed with someone of the same sex on the down low despite insisting that they’re heterosexual. I remember reading a story a while back about some YouTuber/blogger who exposed some famous filmmaker (forgot who it was) and claimed that said filmmaker was a loud and proud sissy before he got his big break and transformed into a good, God-fearing, heterosexual man to please his big church fan base, abandoning his fellow gay friends and associates. I don’t know how true the story is because the YouTuber/blogger is known to stretch the truth and lie excessively, but like I said, there are many down low men and people who can’t be true to themselves regardless. What I find shocking is that the YouTuber/blogger had an accident RIGHT AFTER the situation and ended up having almost all of his face cut up and bruised pretty badly on one side, yet he claims that he hit his face on a wall or something. :eek:

the Bible that these Bible-thumpers follow specifically says not to judge, you’d think these magnificent Christians who judge would realize that. The problem is they know all the words. They just don't know what they mean. Ignorance.

I don’t know if this is too personal to ask but I’m guessing you’re an atheist maybe…or possibly a deist or something along the lines of that? Nothing wrong with that though, I guess. It’s your life. Like I said, I don't belong to any religion but I don't know if I'd call myself an "athiest." I have questions.
My ex-husband is Jewish and he brings the girls to temple and the Jewish center sometimes. That's fine with me.

there are many down low men and people who can’t be true to themselves regardless.
I had a neighbor who was married and had three sons. He portrayed himself as a real "macho man" and he would hunt and fish, etc., anyway, the whole time, he was "in the closet" and was denying being a closet homosexual. After years and years of deceiving his wife, he left her for his gay lover. This guy was a real douche, selfish and a big, fat, lying, phony fraud. If you're gay, that's fine, just don't hurt others with deception like my neighbor. I felt so sorry for his wife and his kids that I never liked too much anyway. I felt bad for them because their father was a fraud and because he lied and betrayed the mother of his children.

The problem is they know all the words. They just don't know what they mean. Ignorance.

Like I said, I don't belong to any religion but I don't know if I'd call myself an "athiest." I have questions.
My ex-husband is Jewish and he brings the girls to temple and the Jewish center sometimes. That's fine with me.


I had a neighbor who was married and had three sons. He portrayed himself as a real "macho man" and he would hunt and fish, etc., anyway, the whole time, he was "in the closet" and was denying being a closet homosexual. After years and years of deceiving his wife, he left her for his gay lover. This guy was a real douche, selfish and a big, fat, lying, phony fraud. If you're gay, that's fine, just don't hurt others with deception like my neighbor. I felt so sorry for his wife and his kids that I never liked too much anyway. I felt bad for them because their father was a fraud and because he lied and betrayed the mother of his children.
That dude seems like an awful person. I bet the mother of his children went on a rampage when she found out. Did you see her on the news? :lol:

That dude seems like an awful person. I bet the mother of his children went on a rampage when she found out. Did you see her on the news? :lol:

She was a total class act. She never lashed out at anyone. She handled the whole scandal with such dignity. It was very impressive.
And yes, the husband was an awful person. He used to hunt deer and bring back their dead bodies to his house and hang them on his kid's swing sets where all the little children could see the dead animals while they were at the bus stop. He was a real d!ck who thought it was "macho" to kill innocent, defenseless animals and then use their dead bodies as trophies. I hated him.

Gotta get ready to turn in for the night. As always, it's a pleasure to chat with you! Talk to you again soon! Take care! :wave:

Gotta get ready to turn in for the night. As always, it's a pleasure to chat with you! Talk to you again soon! Take care! :wave:
Good night. I gotta get ready for bed myself. :wave:

Wawwie, have you ever watched the movie Friday? I’m watching it now. It’s not a favorite of mine, there’s too much swearing and the stereotypes in here are a bit too much, but nothing better is on.

BTW: I’m thinking about putting the Richard Von Drake character from Laugh Now Cry Later in another project once I’m finished with Was My Marriage A Mistake. What do you think about that? I’m thinking about having some plot where Richard gets exposed by Solomon and he responds by finding himself a woman to marry so that his Christian fan base won’t suspect anything and will think he’s a straight man, all in order to protect his career. The thing is that I’m thinking about having one of the characters in my project audition for another Von Drake play (I dunno, maybe Von Drake’s gonna do Granny Hilda Rides Dirty or Granny Hilda’s Spooky Halloween or Granny Hilda Goes To Jail or something like that) and he ends up landing the role and having to do a strenuous amount of rehearsal to only find out that Richard’s the same guy he was before: A homosexual who blackmails and manipulates people with “the Lord” behind closed doors. Unlike Solomon in Laugh Now Cry Later, I don’t think the character will have to kiss Richard onscreen, and he might actually be rescued from the pervert and told off even more.

Wawwie, have you ever watched the movie Friday? I’m watching it now. It’s not a favorite of mine, there’s too much swearing and the stereotypes in here are a bit too much, but nothing better is on. I've never seen the movie Friday. I too am not a fan of too much foul language/swearing. What kind of stereotypes are in the movie?

BTW: I’m thinking about putting the Richard Von Drake character from Laugh Now Cry Later in another project once I’m finished with Was My Marriage A Mistake. What do you think about that?
I think I am always interested to read anything you write. You are very gifted and your stories are always interesting even if I hate some of the characters like Richard Von Drake. :lol:
I’m thinking about having some plot where Richard gets exposed by Solomon and he responds by finding himself a woman to marry so that his Christian fan base won’t suspect anything and will think he’s a straight man, all in order to protect his career. The thing is that I’m thinking about having one of the characters in my project audition for another Von Drake play (I dunno, maybe Von Drake’s gonna do Granny Hilda Rides Dirty or Granny Hilda’s Spooky Halloween or Granny Hilda Goes To Jail or something like that) and he ends up landing the role and having to do a strenuous amount of rehearsal to only find out that Richard’s the same guy he was before: A homosexual who blackmails and manipulates people with “the Lord” behind closed doors. Unlike Solomon in Laugh Now Cry Later, I don’t think the character will have to kiss Richard onscreen, and he might actually be rescued from the pervert and told off even more.Sounds very intriguing! :)

I've never seen the movie Friday. I too am not a fan of too much foul language/swearing. What kind of stereotypes are in the movie?
It’s got the drug dealer who cusses like a sailor, the dad, who is a stereotype of most black fathers, the tall, light skinned crackhead, the reverend who talks in this weird way, and the hot neighbor with the nice ass.


I think I am always interested to read anything you write. You are very gifted and your stories are always interesting even if I hate some of the characters like Richard Von Drake. :lol:
Yeah, Richard was a monster. :lol: Speaking of my work, was there anything you laughed at in Laugh Now Cry Later?

Sounds very intriguing! :)
With the whole Laugh Now Cry Later overall put aside, if you were to describe Richard in four words, what would they be? And what do you think about him possibly finding and paying a woman to marry him to appease his religious fan base and to protect his career and reputation as a playwright and filmmaker?

was there anything you laughed at in Laugh Now Cry Later?I remember LOLing @ granny Hilda shaking her rear-end. :lol:


With the whole Laugh Now Cry Later overall put aside, if you were to describe Richard in four words, what would they be? And what do you think about him possibly finding and paying a woman to marry him to appease his religious fan base and to protect his career and reputation as a playwright and filmmaker?
4 words to describe Richard: whore, selfish, indulgent, manipulative

I could see him paying off some ho to marry him and enter into a fake marriage.

I remember LOLing @ granny Hilda shaking her rear-end. :lol:



4 words to describe Richard: whore, selfish, indulgent, manipulative

I could see him paying off some ho to marry him and enter into a fake marriage.
LOL @ ho. Richard says it’s alright with him as long as he gets some Vitamin D on the side…remember: God says he deserves it for all the hard work he’s done with his plays and movie adaptations. Nothing puts a smile on the good lord’s face like a man in a dress with a full face of makeup on. And his Christian fan base probably won’t suspect a thing.

But actually, if this was in real life, I could see Richard turning into a straight man, with the help of God, Jesus, and viagra. That way, he would be able to live happily with his ho and be a great dad to their children. According to the judge mental Christians of America, you must “REPENNNTT” and you will be free.


JUST KIDDING. LOL.

if this was in real life, I could see Richard turning into a straight man
That would be impossible. Nobody "turns" straight just as nobody "turns" gay. You're either born gay or you're not. You're either born heterosexual or you're not. I'm heterosexual and no amount of nothing could ever make me gay. There's nothing wrong with being gay. Richard is not a regular, harmless gay guy. He's a sick pervert. Sick perverts come in all sexual orientations. He'll always be a sick pervert. No amount of praying to anything or anyone can change that.

That would be impossible. Nobody "turns" straight just as nobody "turns" gay. You're either born gay or you're not. You're either born heterosexual or you're not. I'm heterosexual and no amount of nothing could ever make me gay. There's nothing wrong with being gay. Richard is not a regular, harmless gay guy. He's a sick pervert. Sick perverts come in all sexual orientations. He'll always be a sick pervert. No amount of praying to anything or anyone can change that.
I agree. Anyways, did you catch any one the episodes this week on Y&R? I’m busy during the day most of the time so I’m not able to watch.

I agree. Anyways, did you catch any one the episodes this week on Y&R? I’m busy during the day most of the time so I’m not able to watch.

For Y&R, I'm always one day behind. I watched yesterday's episode this morning. Nothing too exciting. B&B was pretty good today. I almost felt bad for Taylor, but she should know better than to get involved with Mr. Flip-Flopper (Ridge) again. Ridge almost never follows through on his promises. I still think Steffy should not have interrupted the wedding. Why should the CPS debacle dictate the marriage? He told Taylor that he wanted her and it had nothing to do with Brooke. Apparently, he lied AGAIN.

For Y&R, I'm always one day behind. I watched yesterday's episode this morning. Nothing too exciting. B&B was pretty good today. I almost felt bad for Taylor, but she should know better than to get involved with Mr. Flip-Flopper (Ridge) again. Ridge almost never follows through on his promises. I still think Steffy should not have interrupted the wedding. Why should the CPS debacle dictate the marriage? He told Taylor that he wanted her and it had nothing to do with Brooke. Apparently, he lied AGAIN.
Taylor is stupid. She should know better than to even entertain the idea of getting married to in-need-of-a-cough-drop Ridge again. And yes, the CPS situation could have waited until after the wedding. It doesn’t negate the fact that Brooke is a terrible person who thinks that she has never sinned in her entire life. She acts like an old woman who stomps her feet and claps her hands every Sunday in church. Of course, Brooke is made out to be the scorned woman again. :rolleyes:

Taylor is stupid. She should know better than to even entertain the idea of getting married to in-need-of-a-cough-drop Ridge again. And yes, the CPS situation could have waited until after the wedding. It doesn’t negate the fact that Brooke is a terrible person who thinks that she has never sinned in her entire life. She acts like an old woman who stomps her feet and claps her hands every Sunday in church. Of course, Brooke is made out to be the scorned woman again. :rolleyes:

LOL @ in-need-of-a-cough drop Ridge! :lol:

The guy sounds like he gargles with lighter fluid! :lol:

LOL @ in-need-of-a-cough drop Ridge! :lol:

The guy sounds like he gargles with lighter fluid! :lol:
:rotflmao:

I hate it whenever he calls Brooke “Logan” in that rough and raspy voice.

:rotflmao:

I hate it whenever he calls Brooke “Logan” in that rough and raspy voice.
That's bad, but the worst is when Dolla Bill calls himself "Stallion" to Brooke and makes those absurd horse noises. What a turn-off!

That's bad, but the worst is when Dolla Bill calls himself "Stallion" to Brooke and makes those absurd horse noises. What a turn-off!
Oh, that one’s very uncomfortable to watch. Did you know that the guy that plays Dollar Bill used to be on Y&R as Brad Carlton? Brad was married to Ashley, Traci, and Victoria. Brad was the father of Traci’s dead daughter Colleen. He also raised Abby.

Oh, that one’s very uncomfortable to watch. Did you know that the guy that plays Dollar Bill used to be on Y&R as Brad Carlton? Brad was married to Ashley, Traci, and Victoria. Brad was the father of Traci’s dead daughter Colleen. He also raised Abby.

Yes, I knew that Don Diamont was on YR as "Brad" but it was before I was watching. I knew he was Colleen's dad and that Abby thought of him as her own father.