Weather you dont have records anymore OR YOU ARE LIKE ME AND DO :)

Whats your longest song on a 45 you currently have?? (Or had)

Mine is 'HEY JUDE' by the beatles.... THE ENTIRE 7 Mins and 11 Seconds IS ON THE 45!! (Kind of surprising)


Anyone ever seen a longer one??

Yes, I was going to say Hey Jude.

Most other long songs are cut down on 45s.

I have a 45 RPM record of American Pie by Don McLean and it's the entire uncut song which runs over 8 minutes. It's a re-issue 45 on the Collectables label.

An interesting thing about 45's is that sometimes the re-issues are better than the original releases. In some cases, the re-issues have the full version of the song while the originals are edited.

"Carry On Wayward Son" by Kansas is edited on the 45, and as far as I know, there is no re-issue 45 that has the full version. The full version is only on Kansas "Leftoverture" album.

Lionel Records issued three different variants of "Signs" by the Five Man Electrical Band. One variant has the intro and the end of the song trimmed off. Another variant includes the intro but the ending is cut off. The other variant is the full, unedited song which runs about 4 minutes. The unedited variant is the one that's hardest to find so I'm glad I have a copy.

I ended up having to get import releases of "Lyin' Eyes" by The Eagles, "Dance With Me" by Orleans, and "Love Hurts" by Nazareth, because the import 45's are unedited while the USA releases are edited.

I have hundreds of 45's, most are from the 70's but I also have some from the 50's and 60's. Some of them are obscure, they're good tunes but for whatever reason didn't do well on the charts. All are in good shape and play with good sound.

I have a 45 RPM record of American Pie by Don McLean and it's the entire uncut song which runs over 8 minutes. It's a re-issue 45 on the Collectables label.

An interesting thing about 45's is that sometimes the re-issues are better than the original releases. In some cases, the re-issues have the full version of the song while the originals are edited.

"Carry On Wayward Son" by Kansas is edited on the 45, and as far as I know, there is no re-issue 45 that has the full version. The full version is only on Kansas "Leftoverture" album.

Lionel Records issued three different variants of "Signs" by the Five Man Electrical Band. One variant has the intro and the end of the song trimmed off. Another variant includes the intro but the ending is cut off. The other variant is the full, unedited song which runs about 4 minutes. The unedited variant is the one that's hardest to find so I'm glad I have a copy.

I ended up having to get import releases of "Lyin' Eyes" by The Eagles, "Dance With Me" by Orleans, and "Love Hurts" by Nazareth, because the import 45's are unedited while the USA releases are edited.

I have hundreds of 45's, most are from the 70's but I also have some from the 50's and 60's. Some of them are obscure, they're good tunes but for whatever reason didn't do well on the charts. All are in good shape and play with good sound.

Me too; some are promos from radio stations.

Sometimes 45s are a unique mix, not available on the original LP. Rhiannon and Say You Love Me by Fleetwood Mac, for example. They were striving for more of a hit single sound than the LP cut.

The 45 edit of Do It Again by Steely Dan, I actually prefer to the unedited version. The edited version cuts an organ solo I can do without. I think the stereo side of the promo 45 is the only place to get the edited version in stereo, since I'm pretty sure the 45 is mono.

I have never owned a record, the music I have is all CDs (and some cassettes but no cassette player anymore).

Me too; some are promos from radio stations.

Sometimes 45s are a unique mix, not available on the original LP. Rhiannon and Say You Love Me by Fleetwood Mac, for example. They were striving for more of a hit single sound than the LP cut.

The 45 edit of Do It Again by Steely Dan, I actually prefer to the unedited version. The edited version cuts an organ solo I can do without. I think the stereo side of the promo 45 is the only place to get the edited version in stereo, since I'm pretty sure the 45 is mono.

Led Zeppelin's Stairway To Heaven is an 8 minute song, Atlantic Records eventually issued it as a 45/single but I believe only a limited number of copies were pressed, so if one turns up on ebay it tends to be rather pricey.

It's true that sometimes the 45 is a different mix compared to the album version. One example I can think of is Gerry Rafferty's Right Down The Line. The record company, United Artists, speeded up the song on the 45/single version while the album version plays at a slower tempo.

45's don't always have edited versions of the songs, many times the songs are complete and are the same version that's on the LP/album. In cases where the song on the 45 is edited, the record company sometimes refers to it as a "single edit".

Sometimes 45s are a unique mix, not available on the original LP. Rhiannon and Say You Love Me by Fleetwood Mac, for example. They were striving for more of a hit single sound than the LP cut.

The 45 of Rhiannon times in at about 3:45 while the LP version time length is about 4:10. There's an instrumental part towards the end of the song on the LP that is edited out on the 45, as far as I can tell that is the difference.

The 45 of Say You Love Me doesn't appear to have anything edited from it, but it sounds like it's slightly speeded up compared to the LP version.

With Rhiannon the edited LP version has also been put out on a 45. I have that, Reprise K14430 (RPS 1345), (P) 1975 Made in UK, titled "Rhiannon". It states under the title (Edited from the album K54043 "Fleetwood Mac"). The hit single is RPS1345, master number (UCA5852)S (P) 1976, titled "Rhiannon (Will You Ever Win)". It's also the edited version but with significant added string overdubs.

I think Say You Love Me just has added overdubs and as you say, speeded slightly.

Rhiannon (Will You Ever Win)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua6qbCyFzC0

Better quality--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3o6sNk_RLk

It's true that sometimes the 45 is a different mix compared to the album version.Yes and 8track versions also!!

On the LP version of Say You Love Me the electric piano is prominent in the mix, less so in the 45 version. The 45 version has prominent added guitar overdubs.

LP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zLQ4ukqMec

45:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufDHzr20MhQ

Yes and A pink floyd song,I think ANIMALS on the 8track 2 songs are merged together with a goregous guitar solo to create one big song!!

Pigs on the Wing

http://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/Pigs_on_the_Wing.html

I am trying to find a copy of the 8track WITHOUT DOLBY!!

With Rhiannon the edited LP version has also been put out on a 45. I have that, Reprise K14430 (RPS 1345), (P) 1975 Made in UK, titled "Rhiannon". It states under the title (Edited from the album K54043 "Fleetwood Mac"). The hit single is RPS1345, master number (UCA5852)S (P) 1976, titled "Rhiannon (Will You Ever Win)". It's also the edited version but with significant added string overdubs.

I think Say You Love Me just has added overdubs and as you say, speeded slightly.

Rhiannon (Will You Ever Win)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua6qbCyFzC0

Better quality--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3o6sNk_RLk

The 45 I have of Rhiannon is a re-issue on the Reprise label, Over My Head is on the flip side.

On the LP version of Say You Love Me the electric piano is prominent in the mix, less so in the 45 version. The 45 version has prominent added guitar overdubs.

LP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zLQ4ukqMec

45:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufDHzr20MhQ

I listened to both and yes the 45 version has guitar overdubs.

Joe Walsh's Life's Been Good is edited on the 45, the 45 version edits out some of the instrumental passages that drag the song out to about 8 minutes on the LP version.

The 45 I have of Rhiannon is a re-issue on the Reprise label, Over My Head is on the flip side.

I have that one, and the original 45 hit. If the one you have is titled Rhiannon (Will you Ever Win), that's the 45 hit (I finally figured that title difference) with guitar overdubs and shortened.

Just to bore everyone a little further, the Over My Head (original) 45 is also different. It's mixed to practically mono on the 45 and has an intro missing from the LP version, which begins cold. I don't know which version is on the Back to Back Hits 45 (Reprise 0119) but I suspect it's the original 45 hit version.

I have that one, and the original 45 hit. If the one you have is titled Rhiannon (Will you Ever Win), that's the 45 hit (I finally figured that title difference) with guitar overdubs and shortened.

Just to bore everyone a little further, the Over My Head (original) 45 is also different. It's mixed to practically mono on the 45 and has an intro missing from the LP version, which begins cold. I don't know which version is on the Back to Back Hits 45 (Reprise 0119) but I suspect it's the original 45 hit version.

Yes that's the one I have, Reprise Records 0119, Back To Back Hits. Rhiannon (Will You Ever Win), run time 3:46, and Over My Head, run time 3:17.

Yes and 8track versions also!!

I'm not into 8 tracks but I like vinyl records and cassettes.

I'm not into 8 tracks but I like vinyl records and cassettes.

I remember when you could make a cassette mix tape for the car. And I eneded up making 40 or 50 of them. Now useless.

Then CDs came in in the 80s and the early ones at least, sounded horrible--way too loud and distorted. They improved somewhat but now they're going by the wayside.

But 8 tracks? Even I'm too young to have dealt with those.

8tracks can be beautiful Stevie :)

I remember when you could make a cassette mix tape for the car. And I eneded up making 40 or 50 of them. Now useless.

Then CDs came in in the 80s and the early ones at least, sounded horrible--way too loud and distorted. They improved somewhat but now they're going by the wayside.

But 8 tracks? Even I'm too young to have dealt with those.

Back in the 70's, 8 tracks were sort of a hot thing for awhile but the popularity faded after a few years.

During those 1970's days, I had a stereo that had an 8 track player built in to it. I bought a few 8 track tapes and played them but I ended up not really liking the 8 track format and quickly went back to vinyl and cassettes.

If I remember correctly, 8 track tapes have four separate sections on them. After the songs on the first section are done playing, the tape switches to the second section and plays those songs, and so on and so forth.

CD's aren't as good as vinyl but they're OK. All those 45's from the 1970's that I have, I recorded them on to cassettes then transferred the cassettes on to CD's and they turned out fine, the CD's sound great.

Way back in the Stone Age(1965) I had a 45 of Bob Dylan's" Like A Rolling Stone" which was 5 minutes long. Unheard of in those days before FM radio. AM Stations would only play songs under 3 minutes. But our local AM station played it. When "Light My Fire" came out the long musical interlude was cut out.

Back in the 70's, 8 tracks were sort of a hot thing for awhile but the popularity faded after a few years. Ya its sad they didnt see much use outside of a car in the 70s..... They really are beautiful :)

Way back in the Stone Age(1965) I had a 45 of Bob Dylan's" Like A Rolling Stone" which was 5 minutes long. Unheard of in those days before FM radio. AM Stations would only play songs under 3 minutes. But our local AM station played it. When "Light My Fire" came out the long musical interlude was cut out.

The collection of 45's from the 70's that I have, I usually like to have complete versions of the songs but sometimes the complete version isn't available on a 45, only the "single edit" is available. Most of the edited ones in my collection seem to be from the later years, 1976 to 79. Sometimes I'm OK with the edited version and sometimes I'm not, it depends on what was edited out from the song.

An example of one that I'm not fully happy with is Manfred Mann's Blinded By The Light. The complete song has three verses, but the 45 has only the first two verses and the third verse is edited out.

Ya its sad they didnt see much use outside of a car in the 70s..... They really are beautiful :)

I tried 8 tracks for a brief time in the 70's and I just didn't get into them, but I like vinyl records and cassettes.

Jefferson Starship's Miracles is heavily edited on the 45, it runs about 3 1/2 minutes while the full/LP version is about 7 minutes. I actually prefer the edited version that's on the 45.

Sometimes the edits are really obvious-you can hear where they made a cut. Lady by the Little River Band is an example. One if the cuts in Rhiannon is noticeable, too. Sometimes they simply fade the song early--I usually would rather have the full version in those instances.

There are some 45's in my collection that I originally thought were full versions but later I found out that the 45 fades the song out a little early. :rolleyes:

On the subject of 45's, I got something cool in the mail today, a close to mint copy of "Air Travel" by Ray & Bob on Ledo Records. "Air Travel" charted for one week in June 1962 on the Billboard hot 100, making the #99 spot. It deserved to do much better.

"Air Travel" is a snappy, toe tapper tune with a catchy melody, it sort of sounds like a take on Ricky Nelson's "Travelin' Man" with a Sam Cooke vibe to it.

Listen to "Air Travel" here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYqNQQALbCI

The following 1970's hits are edited on the original 45 RPM releases, but later there was a re-issue 45 that has the full unedited version.

Ride Captain Ride- Blues Image
Evil Woman- Electric Light Orchestra
So In To You- Atlanta Rhythm Section
Margaritaville- Jimmy Buffett
Ariel- Dean Friedman
Imaginary Lover- Atlanta Rhythm Section



These 1970's hits have re-issue 45's with the full unedited song, I'm not sure if the original 45 releases are edited but I think they are.

I Can Help- Billy Swan
Only Yesterday- Carpenters
Higher And Higher- Rita Coolidge
Two Out Of Three Aint Bad- Meat Loaf
This Night Won't Last Forever- Michael Johnson



This one isn't easy to find but Columbia Records did issue Billy Joel's My Life unedited on a 45, the unedited version is on one side of the record and the edited version is on the flip side. A copy occasionally turns up on ebay.

My Life is another obvious edit. I think there are a few other Billy Joel singles that are also edited.

Going into the 80s Africa by Toto has a shortened intro. on the 45. So does Your Wildest Dreams by the Moody Blues.

Billy Joel's Just The Way You Are is edited on the 45, and as far as I know there is no re-issue 45 that has the full version.

The 45 of My Life that contains the full version is a promo 45 that was originally only issued to radio stations. I bought a near mint copy on ebay a few years ago.

I recently found out that there are re-issue 45's of Exile's Kiss You All Over, and The Knack's My Sharona that have the full versions of the songs on them, but I'm fine with the edited versions.

There'a also a Seals and Crofts 45 that at least has an edited intro on the 45. It's probably Diamond Girl but I wouldn't swear to it.

There's really a lot of these, but another one I just thought of is Cecilia by Simon and Garfunkel. It's 15 or so seconds shorter and based on the year (1970) issued in a mono mix.

There'a also a Seals and Crofts 45 that at least has an edited intro on the 45. It's probably Diamond Girl but I wouldn't swear to it.

There's really a lot of these, but another one I just thought of is Cecilia by Simon and Garfunkel. It's 15 or so seconds shorter and based on the year (1970) issued in a mono mix.

That's correct about Seals & Crofts Diamond Girl, the 45 has an edited intro and it also fades out the song a little early and some of the ending is cut off. The complete song length is about 4:10 while on the 45 it's about 3:30.

I don't have the 45 of Cecilia but I don't understand why the 45's sometimes have these silly little edits. One example I have is Janis Joplin's Me And Bobby McGee, it has a silly little edit on the 45. The 45 version runs about 4:10 while the complete version is about 4:25. What's missing on the 45 is about 15 seconds of the instrumental break towards the end of the song. Silly for Columbia Records to edit out that 15 seconds, they should have just put the full 4:25 song on the 45.

With Cecilia if I had to guess, they only did one mono mixdown, for radio (promo 45) and the commercial 45--they were mostly all still mono at the time, but the transition to stereo 45s was coming in the early 70s. For AM radio back in the day, the shorter the better, even if you can chop out 15 seconds.

The Joplin 45 was stereo, so I'd think they could have put the full version on there.

I haven't done research on the subject, but I believe by 1973 there were still some 45's that are mono mixes but the majority are stereo.

Yes I have found some promo 45s up to 1980 have 1 side mono which is good!!

But I do have a 1990 45 (White label) and doesnt say STEREO and it sounds goregous!

Stevie B - Because I love you (Both sides)


What a good song to have in analogue Mono!!

Guns N' Roses A: November Rain (8:53)

I have a full size 45 (same size as a 33) and that song is over 8 mins on 1 side anyway...(8:34)

Its a PROMO record..

Song: Loves gonna get you ... I only like the Rap version (The other one blows (Dub version))

When I got this I thought it was the one from 1990 which I love but it isnt... Its from 1986 but its still good...........