This year has been a hard year for me. Mostly it's money issues...I can't get a house or car, expenses are more than expected, for me to get food I have to go to food pantries, none of my friends want me to be their roommate, I might as well live with my brother even though he has NO plumbing and heat, so if I need to use the toilet I have to either buy a portable toilet and **** in the garage or basement and to get clean I'll have to use the sinks at my jobs...I won't be able to shower for awhile...

Life ****ing sucks...there's NO light at the end of the tunnel!

So, this is your 100th woe is me thread, and the answer is the same as the first one.

Get off your ass and make your own life better because no one is going to do it for you.

People don't want to be around someone with your attitude. It's depressing.

Prayers to you Mr. Cleveland . Hoping and praying things get better for you ! ;)

This year has been a hard year for me. Mostly it's money issues...I can't get a house or car, expenses are more than expected, for me to get food I have to go to food pantries, none of my friends want me to be their roommate,
Life ****ing sucks...there's NO light at the end of the tunnel!

Don't let your pride get in the way of seeking help. There are organizations out there that will extend a helping hand, provided you are willing to make a few compromises. And I just have a gut hunch that you know this, and are unwilling to make those specific compromises? Am I right about that?

If so,....then it's up to you to decide which is the greater evil, continuing in your predicament, or making those compromises in order to get their help. None of us can make that decision for you, it's in your lap.

If not,,,,then go out and get some help...you need counseling!! If for nothing else then just to find what all help is available to you. The Salvation Army Adult Rehabilitation center would be a good place to start.5005 Euclid Ave. or the Cleveland City Mission, 5310 Carnegie Ave or even the Urban League 2930 Prospect Ave., the later might not have a cot for you, but I guarantee you they will have a list of people who do.

There is a ton of help out there, available to people willing to ask for it and work within each program's set of requirements. (you know what I mean) ;)


Insider's tip: I understand that many such programs have a maximum time period for the amount of time they will extend help. For some, it's 6 months, others a year, where they pressure you to either become self sufficient within their time frame, or get cast back onto the streets. There are work-around strategies to overcome these limits. You can always go "on tour" and for example spend 6 moths at the Cleveland Salvation Army, then go to Nashville and check in there for 6 months, then on to Chicago, Minneapolis, Omaha, LA, etc etc.......I know guys who have done that. Word has it that the Nashville facility is especially nice.

This year has been a hard year for me. Mostly it's money issues...I can't get a house or car, expenses are more than expected, for me to get food I have to go to food pantries, none of my friends want me to be their roommate, I might as well live with my brother even though he has NO plumbing and heat, so if I need to use the toilet I have to either buy a portable toilet and **** in the garage or basement and to get clean I'll have to use the sinks at my jobs...I won't be able to shower for awhile...

Life ****ing sucks...there's NO light at the end of the tunnel!

You've said you have autism and other problems, so maybe you qualify for social security benefits.

What happened with your job at the church? Maybe they can give you additional help.

So, this is your 100th woe is me thread, and the answer is the same as the first one.

Get off your ass and make your own life better because no one is going to do it for you.

People don't want to be around someone with your attitude. It's depressing.

You're the one with the sucky attitude and zero compassion. For your information, Mr. Cleveland does "get off his ass." He is not a slacker. He had or has a job with the church for a very long time. So stuff it.

You're the one with the sucky attitude and zero compassion. For your information, Mr. Cleveland does "get off his ass." He is not a slacker. He had or has a job with the church for a very long time. So stuff it.


People (including me) have said to him over and over: Do something. Get help. Go to a psychologist or social worker. It will probably be very low cost or free.

Whining on this board over and over gets you nothing. What's changed since the last time he did this? Zero. He has to make the first move.

Even though I'm not religious, the saying is true. God helps those who help themselves. Don't give him sympathy. That's not what he needs.



DD

Cleveland, so so many are having horrible issues and no one here knows your history and what you have been thru. Many are suffering so terribly and trying to feed their children and a bunch living in one bedroom room apartments. I hear plenty out there.

I have my opinions on all that has taken place and still going on.

Many are alone and struggling and many have a lot in t heir family and struggling.

Seek Social Services, I'm having a tough time and I've living many many years just fine, but the world has changed and now I'm seeking social help from agencies.

Right now I'm going thru hoops to get an internet discount from a govt program ACPBenefit.org It's taking me a lot of time to just get thru to this very BUSY agency...millions must be asking for help with their net service.

If you have health issues that does not help .... don't end up on the street.

I have two words for you...

**** YOU

If something terrible happens to you I'll say "serves you right"! I don't need ****ing sympathy and I don't need your ****ing lip!

I've had it up to here with you as well...so don't even read my ****ing posts if you're going to be a ****ing ******* about it!
Babalu is a meanie. Try not to let him raise your blood pressure. He's not worth it.

Life ****ing sucks...there's NO light at the end of the tunnel!Im so sorry buddy :(

Babalu is a meanie. Try not to let him raise your blood pressure. He's not worth it.

Already blocked that *******...I have some reason to bitch...I do try to seek help, I do try to better myself, I do try to ask others...but I just get kicked to the curb!

I'll be talking to my pastor tomorrow since I will be working at my church. I have many part-time jobs and it's hell because everything got too damn expensive...I may even downgrade my phone because of it.

No one understands a working-class person like me...and living in one of the most impoverished or impoverished large cities in America!

Babalu...why don't you walk in my shoes for once? You'll be bitching about anything and everything once you wear them!

People (including me) have said to him over and over: Do something. Get help. Go to a psychologist or social worker. It will probably be very low cost or free.But the way you said it was very mean...... He needs compassion and love,not hatefulness which might push him further down :(

Im so sorry buddy :(

What sucks is...I try to better myself, but things just get worse.

There are a lot of flippant responders around here including Babalu. Not many think to "walk in other's shoes"....

I'll be talking to my pastor tomorrow since I will be working at my church. I hope your pastor will be able to offer you good advice and help. I wish you lots of luck!

What sucks is...I try to better myself, but things just get worse.

I know honey......Things are very hard :(

Ill say a prayer for you :)

But the way you said it was very mean...... He needs compassion and love,not hatefulness which might push him further down :(

...and I've been seeing a counselor, a pastor, I may even call my doctor...but sometimes I don't get an answer...it's like pouring salt on wounds rather than pouring peroxide on wounds.

Plus...this scenario has been happening to almost everyone this year...so it IS 2020...two!

...and I've been seeing a counselor, a pastor, I may even call my doctor...but sometimes I don't get an answer...

Well, why is it that you won't go check yourself into one of the resident help centers? You say you have no place to stay, so it doesn't sound like you have to worry about losing household items and heir looms.

They are geared towards helping people just like you.

Our local Rescue Mission has what they call a 30 day emergency shelter program, where you can work your job during the day, save all your money, and live at the shelter free for that time while you save up to afford your own place. You get a bunk, 3 meals a day, hot shower, and access to resident counselors. And, for more dire cases, they might admit you to a longer term program (but you'd have to quit work for that, as they have indepth training that comes as part of the package.

Salvation Army has 6 month programs where all a guy has are the clothes in his back, and they give him a complete wardrobe, meals, a cot, job training, and spiritual growth opportunity.


EITHER of those situations sounds like an improvement from what you have now, so why not give it a go?

Is there any good reason you know of, to NOT give it a try?

^Well...it's just hard to pay the rent, pay the bills, buy groceries, and save money right now...

I'm trying to save money for the next step...but it's too damn hard!

Well, I wish you only the best! Have you considered one of those residency motels? Since those are usually all utilities included, you might save a couple bucks that way.

But the way you said it was very mean...... He needs compassion and love,not hatefulness which might push him further down :(


Maybe you see it that way. In the beginning I was sympathetic like everyone else. And we all had a pity party. And a few months later there's another woe is me thread. And then another, and another. Nothing changes. And nothing is going to change until he decides to change it. I know he's had a tough life. A lot of people have. But no one can change it for him but him. All the pity he gets here makes it worse because he then craves more pity. He needs someone to tell him that a better life is out there but he has to find it himself. I talk from experience, like it or not.

You've said you have autism and other problems, so maybe you qualify for social security benefits.

What happened with your job at the church? Maybe they can give you additional help.


Yes! As Wawwie said Apply for SSI, also EBT (food stamps) . And it is a very long waiting list ( I'm sure every big city I know in LA it is) but sign up for Section 8 (reduced rent depending on your income and situation)! In the mean time continue counceling , talking with your pastor and working as much as you can! Maybe you could rent a room from somebody that wouldn't be too expensive ( Maybe your church/ the pastor could help with this) ! ;)

While the Section 8 and the SSI might be a process and be a long wait , if Ohio is like California you can easily and quickly recieve EBT ( food stamps) and prayers you will be able to find a clean safe room to rent in someone's house or maybe a group home. Even if it's just a small room, at least it will have heat and plumbing !

Good luck and my prayers are with you !:)

Maybe you see it that way. In the beginning I was sympathetic like everyone else. And we all had a pity party. And a few months later there's another woe is me thread. And then another, and another. Nothing changes. And nothing is going to change until he decides to change it. I know he's had a tough life. A lot of people have. But no one can change it for him but him. All the pity he gets here makes it worse because he then craves more pity. He needs someone to tell him that a better life is out there but he has to find it himself. I talk from experience, like it or not.

Why don't you live in my shoes for once? Having autism, living in Cleveland, not having parents, no one can help you when needed, having to wait forever, live paycheck-to-paycheck, being in a mid-life crisis, riding public transportation, getting harassed by bums, getting taken advantage of, seeing that expenses are more than savings, having unanswered prayers...you'd be bitching too, so if you're sick and tired of my bitching...then leave me the **** alone!

Yes! As Wawwie said Apply for SSI, also EBT (food stamps) . And it is a very long waiting list ( I'm sure every big city I know in LA it is) but sign up for Section 8 (reduced rent depending on your income and situation)! In the mean time continue counceling , talking with your pastor and working as much as you can! Maybe you could rent a room from somebody that wouldn't be too expensive ( Maybe your church/ the pastor could help with this) ! ;)

While the Section 8 and the SSI might be a process and be a long wait , if Ohio is like California you can easily and quickly recieve EBT ( food stamps) and prayers you will be able to find a clean safe room to rent in someone's house or maybe a group home. Even if it's just a small room, at least it will have heat and plumbing !

Good luck and my prayers are with you !:)

The other dilemma I have is...I make too much for SNAP, but I make too little to buy groceries. It's gotten to the point that I may have to let go of a bill or two.

I could say more, but...it'll have to be a private message...yeah, it's gotten to that point....

Why don't you live in my shoes for once? Having autism, living in Cleveland, not having parents, no one can help you when needed, having to wait forever, live paycheck-to-paycheck, being in a mid-life crisis, riding public transportation, getting harassed by bums, seeing that expenses are more than savings, having unanswered prayers...you'd be bitching too, so if you're sick and tired of my bitching...then **** off, don't post **** if you're going to be a ****ing *******!

**** You, Babalu!

Unfortunately you don't understand. I want you to do something about it. Otherwise you'll be 80 years old complaining you have no life. And then it will be too late.

No, I don't have autism. But I have had pretty much everything else on your list, and some others not on your list. I thought everyone had a better life than I did. No one made it better but me.

There are doctors and lawyers who have Asperger's. There are people in lowly circumstances who improve their lives every day. I want you to be one of those people. But I can't make you do it. Only you can.

Unfortunately you don't understand. I want you to do something about it. Otherwise you'll be 80 years old complaining you have no life. And then it will be too late.

No, I don't have autism. But I have had pretty much everything else on your list, and some others not on your list. I thought everyone had a better life than I did. No one made it better but me.

There are doctors and lawyers who have Asperger's. There are people in lowly circumstances who improve their lives every day. I want you to be one of those people. But I can't make you do it. Only you can.

This response from you is much better than your previous posts. Previously, you were mean and kinda douchey. But this proves you can sometimes be capable of being somewhat reasonable.

Better, as this can be helpful.

The other dilemma I have is...I make too much for SNAP, but I make too little to buy groceries. It's gotten to the point that I may have to let go of a bill or two.



Well, that's a little different from the impression your earlier posts suggested. Glad to hear you are not hanging off the edge of the world.

Look at the bright side. You claim there is nobody to help you, well if there was then they'ed probably try to tell you how not to live your life, so you at least have that going for you. ;)


In another post you mention that none of your friends was willing to let you move in with them. And, sharing a roof IS a good way to save money. Have you thought about going through Craigslist for people advertising for room mates? I know it sounds a little odd, , and some of the ads seem a little suspicious (single working gal looking for a generous gentleman to come share my home, several nights per month, etc) :lol: But there also appear to be legitimate ads by people trying to rent out a spare bedroom. Something like that might be just what you need?

I think that most people have skeletons of some sort in their closet. Most just have the discretion to not advertise them on a public message board. Perhaps that's the Asperger's at work here?

I think that most people have skeletons of some sort in their closet. Most just have the discretion to not advertise them on a public message board. Perhaps that's the Asperger's at work here?

What exactly are you talking about?

I think that most people have skeletons of some sort in their closet. Most just have the discretion to not advertise them on a public message board. Perhaps that's the Asperger's at work here?


It isn't...I'll PM you about that...it's that deep...

What exactly are you talking about?

I think most people go through extremely difficult times, at some point in their lives. But (most) think the wiser of putting their suffering out like laundry on a line, for everyone to see.


Personally, I've got some incredibly deep scars from a few separate episodes in my life that were extremely traumatic.. Toe curling episodes. And in a way, at times I've felt cheated that I never just had an opportunity to open up and become a sniveling ball of emotion, cry it all out...the way I've seen so many people do. Catharsis.

But, good judgement tells me that no body really wants to hear that stuff. As Babalu correctly points out, people have enough misery of their own, that they don't want to come here looking for happiness only to be deluged with someone else's suffering.

So, I opined, perhaps it is Mr Cleveland's aspergers that defeats discretion here? It's one thing to say "oh, I'm having some financial troubles, anyone got any suggestions?" But here we have some one insisting that life itself suxx, over and OVER again. Basically broadsiding the forum with his unpleasant experiences.

Since you asked......:)

This may sound a little calloused, but perhaps Mr Cleveland doesn't care that he's glooming up people's lives with the contempt he has for his own? Perhaps the aspergers has made him numb to that aspect? That's really the nitty gritty of my point.

So, I opined, perhaps it is Mr Cleveland's aspergers that defeats discretion here?

I think you're probably right about that. My nephew has Asperger's and he tends to dwell, has little self awareness and he takes everything 100% literally.

As Babalu correctly points out, people have enough misery of their own, that they don't want to come here looking for happiness only to be deluged with someone else's suffering.

OK, but the difference is he was tactless and mean about it until his most recent post. Your observations and posts have always been caring, kind and tactful.

OK, but the difference is he was tactless and mean about it until his most recent post. Your observations and posts have always been caring, kind and tactful.

Interesting thing being, I almost went back and edited my post to observe that Babalu's failure was a lack of tact.

So I guess this is another one of those rare moments where you and I agree? :D

This may sound a little calloused, but perhaps Mr Cleveland doesn't care that he's glooming up people's lives with the contempt he has for his own? Perhaps the aspergers has made him numb to that aspect? That's really the nitty gritty of my point.

I gave you a PM that says more...it really was personal for obvious reasons.

But...I do call people if it gets that way. I did hear a sermon that made me feel better...I almost didn't want to go to church...but I did.

I do try to help myself, but like many...we all need a hand.

The other thing worthy of emphasis, no one is capable of just waving a magic wand and making Mr Clevelands problems go away . He's going to have to roll up his own sleeves, and make whatever changes are needed....he's got to be that one...no one else is gonna do it.

And, I think that was Babalu's intent. Perhaps he was a little too "Dutch uncle" ish in his bedside manner. But his advice was golden.

I gave you a PM that says more...it really was personal for obvious reasons.

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I got it, and responded to it. And I normally NEVER respond to PMs. But yours seemed especially worth an exception.

If you never follow any other of my advice, please listen to that one!!

Interesting thing being, I almost went back and edited my post to observe that Babalu's failure was a lack of tact.

So I guess this is another one of those rare moments where you and I agree? :DI've agreed with all of your posts in this thread.

So much of the wrong in our world is the fruit of British misbehavior. But nonetheless I've always admired their stoic nature in coping with adversity. I think the old song lyric goes "Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way". The world can be going to heII in a handbasket, yet they highly value dealing with it unflinchingly.

Hopefully Mr Cleveland can get a grasp on this aspect. "Stiff upper lip" etc.

I think the old song lyric goes "Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way". Do you know if that's from a Pink Floyd song? Sounds very familiar.

Do you know if that's from a Pink Floyd song? Sounds very familiar.

It was from "Time" by Pink Floyd.

And again...I do try to fend for myself...

One thing that I'd like to add, then I'm going to butt out of this conversation. Success can be greatly over rated.

The most successful man I've ever known, personal net worth in the high hundreds of millions of dollars back 30 years ago when that was a lot of money.....was without question the most unhappy person I have ever known. He could go to bed worth $800 million, and wake up the next morning, ticked off that he wasn't worth $900 million.

And forever cautious that everyone he met wanted only to screw him out of it. But, his biggest fear in life was not of a thief, but of a subordinate squandering his money away, who was too stupid to know the damage he was causing.

And, it really took a toll on him.
So cheer up Mr C...there is one anguish that you'll never have to suffer.

GJ: Cleveland is not looking for 800 million, but needs a better cushion of money for his life. I wouldn't mind an extra $1000 in my account for a little more cushion with all the big increases in trying to buy healthy foods. I hear rumbles that our landlord is not raising our annual rent increases this year due to covid major damage in our town and people's lives. I hope the rumbles are true.

GJ: Cleveland is not looking for 800 million, but needs a better cushion of money for his life. I wouldn't mind an extra $1000 in my account for a little more cushion with all the big increases in trying to buy healthy foods. I hear rumbles that our landlord is not raising our annual rent increases this year due to covid major damage in our town and people's lives. I hope the rumbles are true.

I now am better, but it's odd that I was super-depressed...once I see my doctor in September, I will tell him about it.

I now am better, but it's odd that I was super-depressed...once I see my doctor in September, I will tell him about it.

Good that you are feeling somewhat better, we can change day to day and I hope you don't discount bringing up a thyroid issue, men have issues too and work to get into some one on one talk therapy, even find a support group if there is such a thing in your area, you can get a lot of good tips.. Your doc isn't going to spend time with talk therapy, most likely will push drugs as that's what they do. And consider supplements that elevate mood. Good luck