said in a whinny higher-pitched voice.

My Adad would never talk to me like Lumpy's dad talked to him on the phone. Would any of your caretakers speak to you like that?


I still do not understand why the writers thought we would believe that Lumpy got the scholarship and not Wally.

The only thing that would make it believable (that lumpy got a scholarship, not Wally), the writers tried to achieve by emphasizing his football skills.

The thing that knocks that down is we know Lumpy got bad grades. The writers could have had both Wally and Lumpy getting a scholarship.

Although I remember a minor put-down from my dad when I was small, I can't imagine him saying what Fred did.

Yes I mean how much sense that made with Lumpy’s medicare grades even he the best blocker in the nation or whatever he was great at sports wise.

What was it that said about even if had received a scholarship and does anyone now how schalorships worked back then?

There may have been a couple of reasons there was more concentration on Wally then Beaver: one being that had it gone to a season 7 Wally would likely to have seen far fewer shows as he would have been at college; and the second reason was that Jerry was losing as interested in acting most the shows would have had concentrate on the Beaver, Ted, or Theo or what his friends would have called him in high school.

I'm a big Fred fan. I always thought him being over the top obnoxious, classless, braggadocious was a concerted effort to make him the anti-Ward. I think Fred next to Eddie has some of the best one liners in LITB.

Wasn't Lumpy the worst student in the class. Not C's but D's and a lot of F's. I wouldn't be surprised if schools back then sanitized good athlete's grades with moneys exchanged under the table.

This thread will motivate me to make a best of Fred 3 minute clip to listen and laugh to now & then.

That call from Fred at the scholarship party is a good one to put on that. Then later after Ward did his good deed and the wind direction had changed, Fred is all swelled up, "They don't come any finer."

I'm a big Fred fan. I always thought him being over the top obnoxious, classless, braggadocious was a concerted effort to make him the anti-Ward. I think Fred next to Eddie has some of the best one liners in LITB.

Wasn't Lumpy the worst student in the class. Not C's but D's and a lot of F's. I wouldn't be surprised if schools back then sanitized good athlete's grades with moneys exchanged under the table.

This thread will motivate me to make a best of Fred 3 minute clip to listen and laugh to now & then.

include the one where Fred tells Lumpy to practice the tuba since State needed more people in the brass section than they did the woodwind and that is why Lumpy no longer plays clarinet.

Let's see...

Lumpy's got the moves, not the brains. Fred damned well knows this, pretensions aside

Wally's got the brain and the moves

Ward did a very chivalrous move in salvaging Lumpy's scholarship

Fred may or may not realize the extent to which Ward intervened, if he did at all, but he knew well the college board didn't just have some sudden epiphany as to Lumpy's abilities.

Yeah, this was one of those episodes where there was enough need for the suspension of disbelief where you figure it's probably best to just throw in the towel and sit back and enjoy the ride ( and the laughs ). I do like this episode, for the record.

Yes, I enjoy the episode, too. No analysis when I'm watching.

I'll recycle this: Fred eventually finds out State has rejected Clarence for a scholarship due to a failing grade. Wally found out a day or two before that he was rejected.

Ward intervenes with a State buddy, for Clarence. Huh? And he wouldn't ask his buddy about Wally's rejection? What's wrong with that picture?

Now eventually Wally finds out Ward has saved the day for Lumpy. Wouldn't he wonder, What about me?