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https://deadline.com/2022/04/james-corden-leaving-late-late-show-2023-final-year-1235011646/
Corden, who succeeded Craig Ferguson as the fourth Late Late Show host in March 2015, has extended his CBS contract so that he can exit (https://www.reddit.com/r/television/comments/ue66qh/james_corden_leaving_the_late_late_show_in_2023/) the late-night franchise (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10764135/James-Corden-quits-Late-Late-despite-desperate-efforts-CBS-him.html) in summer 2023. “It’s been it’s a really hard decision to leave because I’m so immensely proud of the show. I’m thrilled to be extending (for a year),” Corden told Deadline. “I always thought I’d do it for five years and then leave and then I stayed on. I’ve really been thinking about it for a long time, thinking whether there might be one more adventure.” His exit will make him the second longest-tenured Late Late Show host at a little over eight years. Ferguson hosted a full decade (January 2005 to December 2014), Craig Kilborn hosted from 1999 to 2004 and the late Tom Snyder launched The Late Late Show in 1995, hosting until 1999. Corden had been a longtime fixture on British TV, who won a Tony Award in 2012 and who co-created and starred in the hit BBC comedy Gavin & Stacey, when then-CBS boss Les Moonves made the surprising choice in 2014 to tap him as host of The Late Late Show. Corden's Late Late Show quickly became known for his viral segments, from "Carpool Karaoke" -- with the Adele version surpassing 250 million views (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nck6BZga7TQ) -- to "Drop The Mic" to "Spill Your Guts or Fill Your Guts" and "Crosswalk: The Musical." While Corden's Late Late Show has been nominated for multiple Emmys, he's won several Emmys thanks to Apple TV+'s Carpool Karaoke series and a CBS Carpool Karaoke special featuring Paul McCartney.
Hawkee 04-29-2022, 02:45 AM Why I think James Corden is leaving The Late Late Show in 2023 is because he wants to focus on other projects and make himself a household name as an actor in America. But why would he want to leave the show that made him such a household name in America? I think due to the Late Late Show James Corden has this fantasy that he wants to be like Regis Philbin and is trying to become the new Regis Philbin and he thinks that by quitting The Late Late Show he will expand his horizons. If it wasn't for The Late Late Show James Corden wouldn't have become so famous by doing voices in animated movies such as Peter Rabbit The Emoji Movie and perhaps his signature role as Biggie in Dreamworks Trolls and became a huge success in the movies Into The Woods and Cats and is also the spokesman in Keurig commercials. But James should've asked for more money before making his decision on quitting his show. When he leaves in 2023 I can bet CBS will replace him with another comedian or comedienne and it will get low ratings
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Will CBS pick a woman to succeed James Corden as The Late Late Show host? (https://www.mic.com/culture/james-corden-late-show-exit-woman-host)
The Late Shift author Bill Carter tweeted (https://twitter.com/wjcarter/status/1519841452804788225) in response to Corden (https://www.radiodiscussions.com/threads/james-corden-to-leave-%E2%80%9Clate-late-show%E2%80%9D-in-2023.748926/) announcing (https://officialfan.proboards.com/thread/619683/james-corden-leaving-late-show) he was (https://tvline.com/2022/04/28/james-corden-leaving-the-late-late-show-cbs-contract-statement/) exiting (https://www.datalounge.com/thread/30731928-james-cordon-will-leave-cbs-late-night-next-year.-) late-night (https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/14407-the-late-late-show-with-james-corden/page/7/#comments) in (https://dlisted.com/2022/04/29/james-corden-announces-that-hes-leaving-the-late-late-show-in-2023/) 2023 (https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/james-corden-announce-he%E2%80%99s-leaving-%E2%80%98the-late-late-show%E2%80%99-in-summer-2023.4884086/) after (https://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/123252166.html) eight years (https://jezebel.com/james-corden-is-leaving-the-late-late-show-next-year-to-1848859269), "I was sure CBS (https://www.celebitchy.com/764636/james_corden_will_leave_his_hosting_gig_on_the_late_late_show_next_year/) would choose woman last time" but "James popped up. I'd never HEARD of him." As Chloe Stilwell notes, network late-night has been full of men, particularly white men. Joan Rivers briefly hosted a show on Fox in the 1980s and Wanda Sykes briefly had a Saturday-night show on Fox in 2009. More recently, Lilly Singh had A Little Late on NBC after Late Night with Seth Meyers. "The problem there though is that NBC attempted to add another late-night show to an already overcrowded field, instead of giving one of the existing late-night hosting spots to a woman — which is where Corden’s open role leaves a perfect place for a woman to finally take over," says Stillwell. "Amber Ruffin currently hosts a late-night show on Peacock, and she would be a worthy contender to move over to CBS’s (late-night) opening. Other comics like Nikki Glaser, Ziwe, Ilana Glazer, Ali Wong, and Whitney Cummings would all be excellent in the role. There are so many adept, funny women who would revolutionize late-night television — and it’s about time a major network gave one of them the chance."
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Good riddance to James Corden, who desperately tried to overshadow the celebrities on his show (https://www.gawker.com/media/farewell-to-james-corden-late-nights-biggest-*******): "When Corden crossed the pond to take over for (Craig) Ferguson, the star had no hold on American media, almost making him an underdog (he was well-known to people like me for his role on Doctor Who)," says Sarah Hagi. "Slowly, it became apparent that, in order to prove himself, Corden would have to overcompensate by convincing celebrities to participate in all kinds of embarrassing behavior. celebrities he can get them to participate in any type of embarrassing behavior. But unlike the similarly annoying and dark-sided Ellen DeGeneres or Jimmy Fallon, Corden’s desperation to be liked doesn’t manifest itself in negging (Ellen) or laughing too hard at celebrities’ bad jokes (Fallon). It comes in the form of him desperately wanting to be liked more than the celebrities beside him. It’s rare to see someone so openly wanting attention in the presence of guests, so often he is silently screaming LOOK AT ME."
From Yvonne Orji to Keegan-Michael Key: Here are 10 Black stars who can replace Corden (https://www.theroot.com/10-black-stars-who-can-replace-james-corden-1848861222/)
More suggestions: Amber Ruffin, Nathan Fielder, Ziwe, Roy Wood Jr. and Daveed Diggs (https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/04/who-should-replace-james-corden-on-the-late-late-show)
howilu 04-30-2022, 07:45 AM If CBS does goes with a female replacement for James Corden, my pick is Whitney Cummings. She had a marginally successful sitcom on NBC and to me, she would be better suited for a late night show.
1960'sTVfan 04-30-2022, 10:04 AM He probably wouldn't be interested, but I say bring back Craig Ferguson! Craig had a good show and I would watch again if he came back as host. I'm not a fan of James Corden, I haven't watched The Late Late Show since Craig left in 2015.
CBS may "experiment" with the 12:35 a.m. timeslot after James Corden exits The Late Late Show (https://deadline.com/2022/05/the-late-late-show-cbs-looking-to-experiment-in-late-night-slot-james-corden-exit-1235026760/)
CBS CEO George Cheeks tells Deadline that the network will look at the format, rather than a host, in thinking of how to approach the 12:35 a.m. late-night timeslot once Corden says goodbye next summer. “We’re going to really enjoy his final year, I think we’re going to take some time to think about that day part and what kind of format could make sense there," says Cheeks. "But again, we would have loved him wanting to stay for 10 more years, but he really he decided it was time to make a move. We’re going spend some time figuring out what is the right replacement format, and I don’t believe that we’ll just be putting out another host there I think it’s really looking at the format.” CBS Entertainment Kelly Kahl adds that his team has received “quite a few” calls from people representing stars who want to succeed Corden.
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#JamesCorden (https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/jamescorden) is starting to disappear from mainstream media after his reputation started to downfall. #TheLateLateShowwithJamesCorden (https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/thelatelateshowwithjamescorden) is coming to an end, so let's go through all of his most problematic moments. Let's get into it.
CBS may "experiment" with the 12:35 a.m. timeslot after James Corden exits The Late Late Show (https://deadline.com/2022/05/the-late-late-show-cbs-looking-to-experiment-in-late-night-slot-james-corden-exit-1235026760/)
CBS CEO George Cheeks tells Deadline that the network will look at the format, rather than a host, in thinking of how to approach the 12:35 a.m. late-night timeslot once Corden says goodbye next summer. “We’re going to really enjoy his final year, I think we’re going to take some time to think about that day part and what kind of format could make sense there," says Cheeks. "But again, we would have loved him wanting to stay for 10 more years, but he really he decided it was time to make a move. We’re going spend some time figuring out what is the right replacement format, and I don’t believe that we’ll just be putting out another host there I think it’s really looking at the format.” CBS Entertainment Kelly Kahl adds that his team has received “quite a few” calls from people representing stars who want to succeed Corden.
CBS is mulling a multi-host panel show to replace James Corden's Late Late Show (https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/james-corden-replacement-late-night-1235285678/)
Last month, CBS told Deadline it may experiment with the 12:35 a.m. timeslot when Corden ends his late-night run next year. Variety now reports that CBS is mulling a multi-host panel show. "It’s entirely possible the replacement show may not have a live band or other trappings that have come to be expected from the format," reports Variety's Brian Steinberg. "CBS’ discussions are in early stages, these people caution, and executives at the network, part of Paramount Global, are mulling a wide range of ideas and potential personalities."
James Corden plans to move back to Britain after his Late Late Show stint ends next year (https://variety.com/2022/tv/global/james-corden-late-late-show-exit-uk-1235292647/)
That is according to Ben Turner, one of Corden's partners in his Fulwell 73 production company. Turner tells Variety Corden is “really excited to get James back in the U.K.”
He probably wouldn't be interested, but I say bring back Craig Ferguson! Craig had a good show and I would watch again if he came back as host. I'm not a fan of James Corden, I haven't watched The Late Late Show since Craig left in 2015.
Somebody elsewhere online described (https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/james-corden-announce-he%E2%80%99s-leaving-%E2%80%98the-late-late-show%E2%80%99-in-summer-2023.4884086/post-81490558) James Corden (https://www.yourtango.com/entertainment/why-do-people-hate-james-corden) as essentially being the male (https://www.reddit.com/r/formuladank/comments/ujv4r9/the_look_of_anyone_forced_to_be_around_james/), British (https://www.reddit.com/r/AskUK/comments/o5pnop/what_is_your_personal_story_of_james_corden_being/) equivalent (https://www.reddit.com/r/answers/comments/tkvcq9/why_dont_people_like_that_james_corden_guy/) to Ellen DeGeneres (https://www.reddit.com/r/kpoprants/comments/ptgb1c/of_all_things_that_james_corden_could_be_canceled/). Both are said to be horrible (https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/ngxcdc/whats_going_on_with_all_the_hate_toward_james/) behind the scenes but are still, somewhat nice to celebrities. And their interview styles are usually comprised of fake niceness and passive-aggressiveness. And if they aren't doing that, then they'll force celebs into uncomfortable situations for their own entertainment.
James Corden's partner wants to oversee the new Late Late Show (https://deadline.com/2022/06/the-late-late-show-with-james-corden-cbs-fulwell-73-1235048818/)
Fulwell 73, the production company behind The Late Late Show with James Corden, would like to continue producing the CBS series when its current host steps down next year.
Deadline revealed in April that Corden would be leaving the late-night series in 2023, after an eight and a half year stint.
Ben Winston, exec producer of the show and one of Corden’s partners in Fulwell 73, told Deadline that he would like to continue making the show when his pal leaves.
“It’s no secret that Fulwell would love to make the next iteration of The Late Late Show, whatever that would be, but that isn’t down to me, I’ve just got to hope that our pitch is better than another pitch,” he told Deadline’s Pete Hammond during his Behind The Lens feature.
Malek 06-26-2022, 05:46 PM I’m not sure I’ve seen a public figure go from being so unknown (in the US, at least) to being so universally reviled as quickly as James Corden.
I’m not sure I’ve seen a public figure go from being so unknown (in the US, at least) to being so universally reviled as quickly as James Corden.
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James Corden has slowly developed one of the worst reputations in Hollywood. He began as a respected actor on the hit comedy series Gavin and Stacey in the UK, however since becoming The Late Late Show host, things haven't been going too well for him. He was called out by the internet on an iconic Reddit post on r/IAMA, he got into a fight with Patrick Stewart in front of a live crowd, and has recently announced that he plans on leaving the public eye in 2023. So, how did The Late Late Show With James Corden destroy his reputation?
This is, How James Corden Destroyed His Reputation / How James Corden Became The Most Hated Human Ever .
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Okay so James Corden is the host of the late late show which he took over from Craig Ferguson like a true Englishman to a Scotsman. His tenure was filled with massive success including winning 9 primetime Emmy awards, visiting Joe Biden, and its own 28 million subscriber YouTube channel. however, Corden has been involved in a series of controversies over the years and is now one of the most hated people on the internet. I mean His show currently has a 1.3 google rating with tons of terrible comments. The worst part is he did it to himself. Corden forgot his own cameramen's' names, yelled at Patrick Stewart on television, and was banned from the NYC restaurant Balthazar for yelling at wait staff. This is why everyone TURNED on James Corden.
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James Corden has destroyed his reputation in the past few months of 2022, after people learned about his hidden dark side. While James is polite and friendly when the cameras are rolling, he acts very differently behind the scenes. Social media picked up on this after James was banned from a New York restaurant for being extremely rude to the waiters. Since that incident went viral on social media, James Corden went on The Late Late Show to apologize for his behavior. James Corden’s apology is a good first step to healing his reputation, but do you believe he’s sincere? Watch this video right now, and learn why everybody hates James Corden. Between you and me, James’ joke-stealing was really outrageous!
Yong Fang 12-10-2022, 12:35 PM Just asking, but who stays up until 12:30/1:30 in the morning to watch his show? Most people have to wake up and go to work in the morning. Then there are just so many other choices for entertainment. Then if Corden (or the NBC late, late show guy, Seth Myers?) has an interesting guest, we can watch it in the morning online.
It's not apparently but seems it is so late, having a late, late talk show at such an hour is a loser for the network. Apparently not.
Edward216 12-13-2022, 06:46 PM While I don't always think he's funny (and I can say that about a lot of celebrities) I basically like James Corden.
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James Corden sits down with Drew Barrymore to reveal the real reason he's leaving "The Late Late Show."
James Corden’s ‘Late Late Show’ Set for April 27 CBS Sign-Off (https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/james-corden-late-late-show-sign-off-april-27-1235534596/)
James Corden aims to leave the late-night stage in a big way.
CBS plans to broadcast (https://www.reddit.com/r/television/comments/11atwi1/james_cordens_late_late_show_set_for_april_27_cbs/) the last hour of its “The Late Late Show,” which Corden has hosted since March of 2015, on Thursday, April 27, and will add a primetime special that night to help mark the occasion.
Tom Cruise will reunite with Corden for one big sketch to air during the primetime special. Cruise has previously joined Corden on “The Late Late Show” for segments include daredevil stunts such as piloting fighter jets and skydiving. In this new meeting, Corden will have Cruise take part in an epic musical performance during “The Lion King” at the Pantages Theater in Hollywood.
CBS said additional details for the special will be announced in coming weeks along with guest stars who will join Corden during his last two months on the program. Corden is the fourth — and last — person to lead “The Late Late Show,” which has its genesis as a second late-night hour at CBS that was originally conceived as something to follow David Letterman and “The Late Show.” Letterman’s Worldwide Pants production company had oversight over the hour, which has been staffed in previous eras by Tom Snyder, Craig Kilborn and Craig Ferguson.
Corden is leaving the show by choice, according to people familiar with the matter, and CBS is set to replace the hour with a reboot of “@midnight,” the former Comedy Central wee-hours game show, in a maneuver that would cut costs and also revive a programming concept controlled by the network’s parent company, Paramount Global.
The decision is indicative of the additional scrutiny TV executives are placing on late-night TV ideas. David Letterman’s retirement in 2015 spurred a flurry of experimentation in the daypart, with BET, TBS and HBO among those testing new concepts. These days, traditional late-night seems to be shrinking. WarnerMedia did not replace Conan O’Brien when he left his late-night TBS show in 2021. NBC did not replace comedian Lily Singh after two seasons of her 1:30 a.m. program, “A Little Late.” Comedy Central, which once boasted three daily late-night programs, now only airs one. As the traditional options shrink, however, others are taking new swings: Fox News Channel has gained some traction with an 11 p.m. panel program led by Greg Gutfeld.
The program plans to add more seats to the Los Angeles-area studio where “Late Late Show” is taped to accommodate those who want to attend before the series wraps.
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00:00 - Everybody Hates James
07:01 - Corden Conquers Britain
19:29 - Corden Spreads Over-Seas
28:25 - The World Hates You. Now What?
TV director: "James Corden is the most difficult and obnoxious presenter ever!" (https://twitter.com/popcrave/status/1643971447059095553?s=46&t=A2Lw4cOH__FkNVR4c8PVyw)
TV director Craig Duncan says (https://t.co/n9r3NdsXtc) James Corden is the “most difficult and obnoxious presenter” he has ever worked with.
Edward216 04-06-2023, 10:03 PM LANGUAGE WARNING
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00:00 - Everybody Hates James
07:01 - Corden Conquers Britain
19:29 - Corden Spreads Over-Seas
28:25 - The World Hates You. Now What?
Wow, that's just stupid.
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James Corden unveils final guests, including Seth Meyers (https://www.whattowatch.com/news/the-late-late-show-with-james-corden-announces-final-guests-for-show-carpool-karaoke)
The 'Late Late Show with James Corden' will air (https://www.etonline.com/late-late-show-with-james-corden-announces-final-round-of-a-list-guests-and-specials-202397) it's final episode (https://www.aol.com/show-james-corden-announces-final-215421089.html) on April 27. ... Mila Kunis, Seth Meyers, Billy Porter and Sharon Stone.
How will James Corden be remembered? (https://www.vulture.com/article/james-corden-late-late-show-legacy.html)
By Jen Chaney and Bethy Squires
After eight years on the air at CBS, The Late Late Show With James Corden (https://www.newsweek.com/james-corden-rise-fall-career-late-late-show-controversy-1794246) comes to an end (https://www.avclub.com/james-cordens-most-infamous-late-late-show-moments-1850382523) tonight, a moment that will be commemorated with a prime-time “Carpool Karaoke” special and the final episode of The Late Late Show featuring guests Will Ferrell and Harry Styles.
When Corden launched what would eventually become America’s foremost source for watching famous people sing karaoke in a passenger seat, the late-night talk show (https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2023/apr/27/james-corden-late-late-show-ending) was at an inflection point. Only a year prior, Jimmy Fallon had taken over The Tonight Show from Jay Leno, who, we are legally obligated to remind you, stole it from Conan O’Brien. At the same time, Seth Meyers launched his own show in Fallon’s former 12:30 a.m. spot. A few months after Corden’s tenure began in 2015, Jon Stewart left The Daily Show, where he was replaced by Trevor Noah. It was a time when a new guard was taking over in this format, and also a time when a bunch of white guys left, only to be replaced by (mostly) more white guys.
Eight years later, as Corden heads off the air and back to England and the late-night talk show as a genre seems closer to potential extinction than it ever has, it feels like we may be at another inflection point. Which is why it seemed appropriate to have an emergency discussion between Bethy Squires, author of Vulture’s “This Week in Late Night” column, and TV critic Jen Chaney about Corden’s likability and legacy, and where late night goes from here.
Bethy Squires: We come to bury James Corden, not to praise him. Well, I’m here to praise him a little. I’m sad to see this show go. Not just this time slot of late night, but The Late Late Show With James Corden. For the “This Week in Late Night” column, I had to watch every late-night show, and the way he riffed with his staff during the lockdown era was a genuine highlight. But I’m curious what you thought about Corden, especially pre-pandemic, which I caught a lot less of.
Jen Chaney: I remember when he first launched the show in 2015 and, in his second week on the air, hosted an entire program from some random guy named Tommy’s house, with guests that included Jeff Goldblum and Beck. (Beck noted that it was very hot in Tommy’s house while Tommy fawned all over him. Beck later performed in Tommy’s dining room.)
The space was clearly too tight for a proper late-night show, but there was something fun and DIY about that episode that gave me early David Letterman vibes combined with a heavy dose of Graham Norton. In that episode and his in-studio ones, Corden committed to putting all of his guests together on the sofa, one of the things that has always made Norton’s U.K. show such a fun hang and that generally worked on Corden, too. I liked how Corden was experimenting with the form and improvising a bit. But as the show went on, it became known more for its bits — its “Carpool Karaoke” segments and “Crosswalk the Musical” performances — than for its improvisational qualities. The biggest knock against Corden, actually, is that his show didn’t feel improvised at all, but instead like a series of highly choreographed set pieces designed to make the celeb guests seem relatable and to showcase Corden’s talents as the U.K.’s No. 1 Thirstiest Theater Kid.
The thing is, that’s sort of what he promised CBS executives he would do. In an interview earlier this week with CBS Sunday Morning, Corden recalled the feedback he gave to CBS when they asked him what they should do with the time slot that once belonged to Craig Ferguson. “I said I think you’ve got an opportunity to have an hour there that embraces the internet,” he said. “Make a show that launches at 12:37 but people consume and watch all day, because that’s how that audience are consuming their content now.” His song-and-dance fests and sketches often did go viral, so you can make a strong argument that he succeeded at his mission. But he, along with Jimmy Fallon, also pushed late night into a direction where carefully orchestrated “spontaneity” replaced actual spontaneity. And I miss the real thing, or what at least felt more like the real thing. I miss that one time Beck played “Country Down” in a dining room.
BS: That’s the most frustrating thing about watching Corden as a comedy fan: seeing the genuine moments of spontaneity crowded out by the splashy, prerecorded stuff. But that’s definitely how he’s most well known by the world at large.
I want to go back to his time in the U.K. panel-show trenches. As a Big Fat Quiz fan, that’s how I first knew him. Corden was often paired up with Jack Whitehall (who has been a frequent guest on The Late Late Show), and the two would be the brats of the episode. The Big Fat Quiz of the Year is a pub-quiz-style show that comes out on Christmas every year on Channel 4. Teams of celebs compete to see who knows the most about the past year, but really they’re competing to see who can make the most jokes about host Jimmy Carr’s style, tax evasion, and hair plugs. One of the better bits the show ever had was when Whitehall and Corden (1) showed up in tuxes to demonstrate that they weren’t here to **** around, and (2) ordered in pizza.
This stunt highlights both Corden’s greatest strength and biggest flaw rolled into one. He’s not afraid to play the heel when the comedy requires it. The way he and Whitehall pester the other panelists is very high school: annoying yet funny at the same time. But the commitment to preplanned bits is also there. And by the time Corden got The Late Late Show, some U.K. comedy nerds were like, “Good, he’s your problem now.”
Let’s talk more about how he and Fallon YouTube-ified late night. There’s the obvious point that the two both utilize these recurring segments (“Carpool Karaoke,” “Go On, Git,” etc.) to be consumed as stand-alone content, completely divorced from the concept of “late night.” But Corden also pretapes a lot of things that seemingly don’t need to be pretaped. If he has a big guest, they’ll be on the couch one night and then show up in a sketch/song/”Crosswalk Musical” later in the week. He doesn’t even try to make the viewer believe all these things are happening the same night.
How do you feel about the un-temporality of late night today? On the one hand, ain’t no way I’m going to stay up late to watch a show on network broadcast. On the other hand, I can’t help but feel like we’re losing something ineffable by decoupling late night from actually being late at night.
JC: There is something about the fact that these shows were meant to be watched just before bed — what people had to do in the days before streaming, the internet, and DVRs — that helped define their sensibilities. The monologues and the interviews between host and guests were really the main event, and were meant to be chatty and fun, to provide some good laughs before the drowsiness kicked in.
Even when guests had been prepped ahead of time, there was still that sense of spontaneity in a lot of late-night conversations, and the sense that surprising things could happen that weren’t under the control of the host or the publicists micromanaging their clients. Just one example of many: Cher telling Letterman he was an ******* on national television in 1986. Generally in those days, things didn’t feel quite as overtly scripted. Certainly Letterman, Leno, and Conan did sketches; Conan had a particular gift, in his 12:30 heyday, for weirding out with masturbating bears and pimp bots, which, again, suited the audience of (mostly) younger people up late and in the mood for something punchy.
Corden was correct to recognize that by the mid-2000s, people were no longer consuming “late night” late at night anymore. He also was smart to think about how his show might work in the YouTube era. But the focus on games and silly sketches, on The Late Late Show and elsewhere, has wound up pushing late night further from its original principles. Instead of creating a relaxing, organically evolving experience where anything could seemingly happen, Corden (and Fallon) started forcing “the anything” to happen. Corden especially earned a reputation as a try-hard (among other things). Like, watch this and try not to cringe. It can’t be done. That reputation has been tough for him to shake, mainly because it’s accurate, although not necessarily always a bad thing.
BS: There’s something a friend’s ex-boyfriend said that has stuck with me much longer than their relationship, and that is “You can’t force the jam.” I think it was in the context of making fun of Phish or something, but it definitely applies here. Fallon and Corden are guilty of trying to force the jam, in a way that “Day Drinking With Seth” never does. Colbert’s audience often forces the jam upon him, with all the chanting and the booing.
Corden is a try-hard, but the American allergy to people making an effort is not one of our cuter attributes. I can sort of sympathize, as a person whose job security often depends on an interview going well. Would the loosey-goosey, discursive late-night conversations happen with Charli D’Amelio? Celebs are too media-trained nowadays. I wonder if being a try-hard is the only way to pierce the PR veil. I can’t get you to call me an ******* or dance on my desk, but I can get you to eat bull testicles. It’s fitting that one of Corden’s signature guests is Kim Kardashian, who has made her fortune on a very overproduced version of “reality.”
Speaking of frequent Corden guests, I think it’s my responsibility now to force you to talk about Harry Styles.
JC: That’s right, I only talk about Harry Styles when forced. And by “forced,” I mean someone comes up to me and says, “Hi.”
He’s a great example of a celebrity who really popped on The Late Late Show, and a testament to how much the charm of Corden’s segments could turn up or down based on which famous person was in them. Styles’s bits worked well in part because he was so generally low-key, and that created a nice contrast with Corden. Their 2019 “Concert Crosswalk” segment is a lot of fun in part because Harry seems so dismissive of the whole concept. Their more recent making of a video for “Daylight” for $300 was also fun because it harked back to that seat-of-the-pants style that was on display in that aforementioned episode at Tommy’s house.
Whenever Corden paired up with Tom Cruise to do some daredevil stunt, like jumping out of a plane, that also was fascinating, because Cruise is maybe the only person on earth who is “doing the most” more flagrantly than Corden.
But, Bethy, you’ve been watching The Late Late Show for the past couple of years much more regularly than I have. Has the forcing of the jam abated at all?
BS: Gonna have to first sidebar about the “Daylight” music-video shoot. I think the Making the Video energy hooks me as a millennial, but also the impish-little-**** energy coming off Corden. I think what makes Corden’s trying here palatable is that he knows it’s annoying. He knows he’s being extra, and he’s excited to annoy Styles and even the girls who live in that apartment. Lean into your brand, my guy!
But to answer your question, there was a time when the jam was coming unforced, and it was when the show couldn’t have a real audience. Maybe it’s the theater kid in Corden, but he always overplays to a studio audience. But when audiences were verboten during COVID in 2021, Corden was the chillest hang of all the late-night shows. The whole staff, including the senior VP of late-night television, West Coast, Nick Bernstein, were forced to participate in monologues. It was like The Soup, with the crew laughing behind the camera.
Corden wisely opened up the monologue space, turning it into dialogue between him and head writer Ian Karmel, Reggie Watts and his band, the camera guys, the writers, everybody. Show after show, the crew’s personas were built up, as well as Corden’s specific vibe with each. Cameraman Pete is a Parrot Head; most of the band is into weird sex stuff; Nick Bernstein is into horse racing. There was also a change in how the monologues were edited, making it looser and preserving more of the pre-joke patter. If the years pre-COVID were about turning late night into YouTube, lockdown-era Late Late Show turned late night into podcasts. It’s been frustrating seeing the show devolve back into scripted jokes now that things have opened back up.
A good example of what the show was like in its podcast era was the week that Bernstein was given a chair that was weirdly high. Then, for the next few nights, the chair would get higher and higher. Silly! Pointless! Mild bullying! This was The Late Late Show (and its CBS exec) at its height.
Jen, what does it mean for you that we’re losing this time slot of late night? CBS is bringing back @midnight in The Late Late Show’s spot, even though Twitter is a walking corpse. Does this news, combined with all the new shows that got canceled like Desus & Mero, Ziwe, and A Little Late With Lilly Singh, mean late night’s days are numbered?
JC: First of all, I wish I had watched Corden more in the quarantine era. In fact, I was hopeful that the stripped-down nature of what late night was forced to become during COVID might usher in more chaos energy to the form. But like you said, everything slid right back to the normal.
As far as late night’s days being numbered, I don’t think it’s immediately going away. While Colbert’s contract with CBS expires next year, both of the Jimmys — Fallon and Kimmel — have a few years left on theirs. But I do think fewer people engage with late-night talk shows than they did when Corden arrived on the scene. When people want to hear from celebrities, they generally follow them on Instagram or TikTok, and when they want some fun host-celeb banter, they go to shows like Hot Ones or Chicken Shop Date.
Personally, I still value late-night talk shows. Like you, moments generated on those shows are things I often return to when I’m looking for a pick-me-up from a YouTube clip. But I would like to see different voices leading the way — put Ziwe on in Corden’s old slot, cowards! — and more fearlessness in terms of subverting the genre and trying new things. I’m not saying I want The Tonight Show to turn into The Eric Andre Show. But I’m also not not saying that.
As someone who studied his show, how do you think The Late Late Show will be remembered? And how should it be remembered?
BS: I think Corden’s legacy will be “Carpool Karaoke” with Paul McCartney. Late-night careers often get condensed to one or two bits that come to represent the host’s whole tenure: Carson with the tomahawk, Letterman with Drew Barrymore, Conan’s remote segments. I think Corden will be remembered for “Carpool Karaoke” beating Nanette and Homecoming for an Emmy, and I think people will unfortunately think of it like when Crash beat Brokeback Mountain.
But I hope people will remember The Late Late Show for the things it did to expand the boundaries of late night. First, for Corden’s immediate predecessor Craig Ferguson bringing some gonzo energy to monologues and really exploring the space. Then, for Corden’s willingness to take the show out of the studio. Sure, that impulse did block traffic with Corden dressed as a mouse. But it also gave one random guy a very personal Beck concert. Trying hard has its place.
James Corden was adept at virality (https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=Awr92lf430xkk4gTU1JXNyoA;_ylu=Y29sbwNncTEEcG9zAzEEdnRpZANDQ0FEU1lDQ18xBHNlYwNzcg--/RV=2/RE=1682788472/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fwww.washingtonpost.com%2ftv%2f2023%2f04%2f28%2fjames-corden-late-late-show-farewell%2f/RK=2/RS=29.3rUfCBrzVbIii78j73gS7gEc-)
James Corden grasped social media virality (https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=Awr92lf430xkk4gTVVJXNyoA;_ylu=Y29sbwNncTEEcG9zAzIEdnRpZANDQ0FEU1lDQ18xBHNlYwNzcg--/RV=2/RE=1682788472/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fwww.bbc.com%2fnews%2fentertainment-arts-61271576/RK=2/RS=ZySpx5uPGBpTLRSUqaUh9sz0fUY-) at a time when it became the mark of late-night (https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=Awr92lf430xkk4gTTlJXNyoA;_ylu=Y29sbwNncTEEcG9zAzEEdnRpZANDQ0FEU1lDQ18xBHNlYwNzYw--/RV=2/RE=1682788472/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2flaist.com%2fnews%2farts-and-entertainment%2fwhy-arent-more-people-talking-about-james-cordens-farewell-to-the-late-late-show/RK=2/RS=9bW8dpjF8v3UL6ZhbjcvZax3vSo-) success (https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/14407-the-late-late-show-with-james-corden/page/7/#comments). It endeared him to some (https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/adele-joins-james-corden-for-last-ever-carpool-karaoke.5240104/), while others relentlessly mocked him (https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/director-slams-james-corden-as-the-most-difficult-and-obnoxious-presenter-hes-ever-worked-with.5222596/).
CBS could no longer afford to produce 'The Late Late Show with James Corden' as it raked in less than $45M but cost up to $65M to make, LA Magazine reports (https://www.yahoo.com/news/cbs-could-no-longer-afford-070011053.html)
CBS aired its final episode of "The Late Late Show" after a 28-year run on April 27 and its termination may have had to do with the show's declining profitability.
Sources told Brian Stelter for Los Angeles Magazine (https://www.lamag.com/article/james-corden-bows-out/) that the late-night show, hosted by James Corden since 2015, cost $60 million to $65 million a year to produce but only made less than $45 million.
"It was simply not sustainable," an anonymous executive told Stelter: "CBS could not afford him anymore."
CBS could no longer afford to produce 'The Late Late Show with James Corden' as it raked in less than $45M but cost up to $65M to make, LA Magazine reports (https://www.yahoo.com/news/cbs-could-no-longer-afford-070011053.html)
Is the real reason James Corden quit America because his A-list chat show was losing $20m every year? The Late Late Show was 'simply not sustainable' and CBS 'couldn't afford him anymore', TV executive claims (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12043847/Is-real-reason-James-Corden-quit-America-list-chat-losing-20m-year.html)
In leaving the show, James Corden (left with Prince Harry, right at the 2023 Met Gala with wife Julia, inset left with Tom Cruise) will be giving up the sunshine-soaked, bling-filled west coast celebrity lifestyle he clearly loves: nipping down to the Mexican retreat of Cabo with the likes of Adele and Styles; dropping in on his friends Gwyneth Paltrow, Justin Timberlake, Matt Damon and Ben Affleck; heading up the 101 highway to Montecito to see the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. The Cordens will also miss their £20million mansion in the exclusive LA district of Brentwood Park, with its dual lawns - one with real grass, one made of AstroTurf - and its cinema, pool and spa. All easy to afford when you're worth more than £56million. Maybe Corden and his wife Julia really do want their children - Max, 12; Carys, nine; and Charlotte, five - to grow up close to their grandparents and would have returned to Britain anyway. But the crueler truth (https://www.resetera.com/threads/cbs-could-no-longer-afford-to-make-the-the-late-late-show-costed-65-mill-a-year-but-only-brought-in-45-mill-in-ad-revenue.714526/) may be that The Late Late Show (https://www.reddit.com/r/entertainment/comments/135k5py/james_cordens_latenight_show_was_losing_up_to_20m/) was (https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/136gtyf/james_cordens_late_late_show_was_losing_up_to_20m/) too expensive (https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/cbs-could-no-longer-afford-to-produce-the-late-late-show-with-james-corden-as-it-raked-in-less-than-45m-but-cost-up-to-65m-to-make.5245815/), Corden's popularity (https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-is-it-about-james-corden-that-makes-him-considered-so-unlikable.164966/) was on the wane (https://www.datalounge.com/thread/32865577-cbs-was-losing-20+-million-a-year-producing-%E2%80%9Cthe-late-late-show-with-james-corden%E2%80%9D) - and he's getting out (https://www.reddit.com/r/entertainment/comments/135k5py/james_cordens_latenight_show_was_losing_up_to_20m/) just in time.
Why So Many People Dislike James Corden (https://screenrant.com/james-corden-movie-show-appearances-hated-annoying-reason/)
Even though James Corden (https://screenrant.com/tag/james-corden/) is no longer the host of The Late Late Show, he presented it for 8 years - despite all the hate thrown his way.
Why So Many People Dislike James Corden (https://screenrant.com/james-corden-movie-show-appearances-hated-annoying-reason/)
Even though James Corden (https://screenrant.com/tag/james-corden/) is no longer the host of The Late Late Show, he presented it for 8 years - despite all the hate thrown his way.
Why Do People Hate James Corden? (https://www.looper.com/1513519/why-people-hate-james-corden/)
James Corden often comes about as affable and charming, but the former "Late Late Show" host has become an unpopular figure among fans for a number of reasons.
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Intro - 00:00
As We Know It - 08:32
Successor? - 15:18
Success? - 21:01
James Of All Trades - 27:17
Accordance - 33:18
Ellen Revisited - 38:55
Corden Ramsay - 45:32
Corden, Blue - 52:00
Corden, Off - 58:51
Identity Crisis - 01:05:45
Out Of Time - 01:12:10
Out Of Touch - 01:20:56
Saving James - 01:28:12
The Late Night Lament - 01:35:56
Outro - 01:43:34
TV show hosts, we’ve gone through a few.
From the allegations that ended Ellen’s illustrious TV career, to Lilly Singh’s unfortunately fruitless foray into the world of late night, how the internet’s inhabitants cross-pollinate to other platforms is a curious conundrum. Given many modern day talk show’s reliance on social media for greater proliferation, they regularly experience the advantages, and disadvantages of being able to answer immediately to an audience who can be known to turn on a dime, but it’s a risk that many are willing to take, especially with the world as it is today.
With video-sharing and streaming platforms taking up a significantly larger market share than they used to, content running on syndicated and cable have needed to adapt to the evolving landscape or risk being left behind. At the same time, virality can often only be fleeting, and as we saw this last year with the cancellation of Dr. Phil’s self-titled TV show, at one point the basis of some of the most viral content on YouTube, the internet moves fast, and the internet moves on. Late Night Shows still pull sizable ratings, but studios and networks are always going to be concerned with the trend, and in the past few years, late night shows have seen more endings than beginnings, particularly on the later night slots which were often used to test the potential of future content. It sent the message that the confidence in this format was waning. How come?
Over the past few decades, ratings on many late night shows have remained solid thanks to their ability to tap into relevant issues, and use the host’s charisma to build a closer one-to-one relationship with the audience. The losses over TV have often been filled in with the YouTube success, whose monetization is maximized due to lucrative deals with the video-sharing platform, but in the past few years, the path that many of these shows appeared to be on has somewhat diverged from the tastes of the youngest target demographic: Gen Z, and for us, it wasn’t hard to see why.
In the past few years, there has been a different kind of virality on the internet, one where a concept generates a significant degree of fame, but one more akin to infamy, and even if a trend is well-documented, and even “popular” to a degree, it may be treated with contempt by those who engage with it the most. It seems that the writers and producers of these shows didn’t really grasp this, and their approach to the “interests” of the Gen Z, has been one that often appeared to alienate viewers more than it did entice them. In essence: late night was becoming out of touch, and its slate of rather inoffensive yet insipid hosts was doing little to appease these concerns, but was there a place for that style? One man would argue so.
Why So Many People Dislike James Corden (https://screenrant.com/james-corden-movie-show-appearances-hated-annoying-reason/)
Even though James Corden is no longer the host of The Late Late Show, he presented it for 8 years - despite all the hate thrown his way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PagJIkfIbhk
For years, James Corden fooled America into believing he was a fun, harmless nice guy, when in reality he was a devil in disguise.
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Ellen 2.0
1:25 - How did Corden get famous?
3:27 - He was mean from the beginning
6:26 - Corden exposes himself in the UK
9:22 - Corden lands The Late Late Show
11:30 - America loves Corden
15:52 - Corden slips up
18:05 - Horrible stories come out
20:53 - America turns on Corden
22:15 - Corden steals Ricky Gervais' joke
23:26 - Balthazar incident
25:27 - More stories surface
28:52 - Corden flees US
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