Well, after the toxic display of masculinity at the awards show, where do you stand on the subject?

It was kind of a nasty joke, but the slap was unwarranted.

Rock apologized, and that should be the end of it. But it's good for several more days of media buzz.

The cops may become involved, despite the fact that Rock won't press charges.

I won't vote, no need to...They were both wrong and Smith apologized and Rock who knows, his comment was bad bad bad about Jada's disease.

Amazing how much space has been wasted on this nonsense...

David Letterman's comment (go to around :40) --

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxbZOyyXAxs

I think one thing's for sure: Chris Rock's next hosting duties will turn this incident to comedy gold.

Another thing's for sure: the Academy is loving this publicity.

I won't vote, no need to...They were both wrong and Smith apologized and Rock who knows, his comment was bad bad bad about Jada's disease.

Amazing how much space has been wasted on this nonsense...
Chris Rock didn't even know about the alopecia. It was a G.I. Jane joke, not an alopecia joke. And even if he did know about Jada's disease, it is still no excuse for what Will Smith did. Smith behaved like a caveman, like an animal, no class at all. He makes me sick now. He is obviously so very, very unhinged and unbalanced.

Team Chris Rock 100%

I've always believed the scuttle that the awards are more about earning favor than actual prowess.

As such, I believe that its fair to conclude that Smith will never win another.

So, why not revoke the one he just got? Send an indelible message.

Or, conversely, if they fail to revoke his award, then what message are they sending?

I've always believed the scuttle that the awards are more about earning favor than actual prowess.

As such, I believe that its fair to conclude that Smith will never win another.

So, why not revoke the one he just got? Send an indelible message.
Will Smith should have been taken away in handcuffs the moment after he hit Chris Rock.

Will Smith should have been taken away in handcuffs the moment after he hit Chris Rock.

They were both dead wrong and very very immature.....Handcuffs?????!!!!!

Chris Rock didn't even know about the alopecia. It was a G.I. Jane joke, not an alopecia joke. And even if he did know about Jada's disease, it is still no excuse for what Will Smith did. Smith behaved like a caveman, like an animal, no class at all. He makes me sick now. He is obviously so very, very unhinged and unbalanced.

Team Chris Rock 100%

We need you here in LA as DA since our's is so soft on crime. Throw on the cuffs for a slap.

We need you here in LA as DA since our's is so soft on crime. Throw on the cuffs for a slap.

It was assault... you know, a crime? :crazy::confused:

They were both dead wrong and very very immature.....Handcuffs?????!!!!!

One committed a crime while the other didn't. Big difference.

One committed a crime while the other didn't. Big difference.

Assult, crime whatever, it should not have happened and Rock had no right making fun of Jada and whatever GI Jane or how ever it was meant.

I guess too all the parents that spanked or slapped their children should be handcuffed....that action is wrong too but it has gone on forever....I know different topic but just thinkin.

Assult, crime whatever, it should not have happened and Rock had no right making fun of Jada and whatever GI Jane or how ever it was meant.


You do understand that making fun of someone is not a crime? Whether you like it or not, you can't go around physically assaulting anyone who hurts your feelings.

BTW, Chris Rock is a comedian. It is his job to make fun of people. Will Smith's family is not exempt. And FYI, Chris Rock had no idea that Jada has alopecia. He thought she shaved her head for GI Jane.

I read that Chris Rock didn't even write the joke, but he still didn't have to use if he knew about her condition. It wasn't part of the rehearsal. It's ludicrous to think that he didn't know about her condition. It wasn't the first time that he's joked about her. Comedians need to stay updated on the latest celebrity news to remain topical.

He interviewed a woman with alopecia in the Good Hair documentary.

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I think it's ridiculous people want them to arrest Will Smith, take away his Oscar and ban him from the Academy. He made a bad choice in an instant, which I'm sure he regrets. He shouldn't have to pay for it for the rest of his life. He apologized already. Move on and find something else to complain about.

These people didn't care about Chris Rock before this happened. They will go back to not caring about him when the dust settles.

I read that Chris Rock didn't even write the joke, but he still didn't have to use if he knew about her condition.
He did not know. And even if he did, Will Smith had no right to physically assault him.
Very sad that you condone physical violence because someone hurts your feelings.

He did not know. And even if he did, Will Smith had no right to physically assault him.
Very sad that you condone physical violence because someone hurts your feelings.

I don't condone physical violence. I don't consider slapping someone like that an arrestable offense. Will Smith is a big dude. He played boxer Muhammad Ali in a movie. If he really wanted to hurt him, he could have. Chris Rock is pencil thin. It didn't even seem to phase him at all. He laughed it off. He didn't need to seek any medical assistance. They didn't need to stretcher him off.

Do you condone it when a parent slaps their child across their face when they misbehave? Is that physical assault?

Will Smith slapping Chris Rock was like a father disciplining their son or a brother to a brother.

In the old days when somebody insulted your wife or girlfriend that visibly upset her, you would ask the person to step outside to settle it man to man. Will Smith could have and should have handled it differently.

I don't consider slapping someone like that an arrestable offense.
The L.A.P.D. does.

Chris Rock didn't even know about the alopecia. It was a G.I. Jane joke, not an alopecia joke. And even if he did know about Jada's disease, it is still no excuse for what Will Smith did. Smith behaved like a caveman, like an animal, no class at all. He makes me sick now. He is obviously so very, very unhinged and unbalanced.

Team Chris Rock 100%

He reportedly didn't know about it. He had to think there was some reason she has appeared this way since her reveal last summer.

As far as WS goes, it's not a felony:

https://www.thewrap.com/could-will-smith-face-criminal-charges-chris-rock-slap/

so it's unlikely LAPD will pursue charges. But another take:

https://nypost.com/2022/03/28/la-prosecutors-could-and-should-charge-will-smith-former-da-steve-cooley/

What I want clarified is does something have to cause damage in order to warrant an assault charge? For example, say I anger someone at a club and they go and shove me. There is no damage from this as in I didn’t need to go to the hospital and I didn’t bleed.

It would be different if I were to fall and crack my head from the shove, but is a shove considered assault, or any punch or slap with no damages?

What I want clarified is does something have to cause damage in order to warrant an assault charge? For example, say I anger someone at a club and they go and shove me. There is no damage from this as in I didn’t need to go to the hospital and I didn’t bleed.

It would be different if I were to fall and crack my head from the shove, but is a shove considered assault, or any punch or slap with no damages?


California Penal Code (CPC) §240 – Assault – California's Assault law (also known as “Simple Assault”) applies whenever anyone willfully does anything that would result in applying force to another person while having facts that would make a reasonable person realize the act would result in applying force to someone else. To be convicted, you have to have the present ability to apply force and you can't have acted in self-defense or defense of another.

Simple Assault is a Misdemeanor crime. Conviction can result in six months in a county jail, a fine of up to $1,000, or both jail time and a fine.

As far as WS goes, it's not a felony:


Who said anything about felony? It's a misdemeanor crime. Simple Assault is a misdemeanor crime. Conviction can result in six months in a county jail, a fine of up to $1,000, or both jail time and a fine.

The way it was told to me is, if I threaten you and pursue you, that is assault...even if I catch you and detain you physically.

If I actually punch you, that is battery.

Smith is going to want to plea for "aggravated battery" IF he ultimately faces charges.

I say strip him of his award, charge him with battery, let him plea it down, and then forever know that his next offense will be his second offense.

I've always believed the scuttle that the awards are more about earning favor than actual prowess.

As such, I believe that its fair to conclude that Smith will never win another.

So, why not revoke the one he just got? Send an indelible message.

Here are five moments uglier than Smith's Oscar slap (https://www.themarysue.com/no-will-smith-slap-was-not-oscars-ugliest-moment-ever/): From Seth MacFarlane's “We Saw Your Boobs" to the treatment of Hattie McDaniel to the standing ovation for Roman Polanski, the Academy Awards has seen far uglier moments than what happened Sunday.

I believe that I created too few options in the original poll.

I think that I overlooked "I want to have Will Smith's Baby", as well as "Death by Lethal Injection"

I guess that old age must be taking it's toll? I'm devolving into a moderate.

The joke wasn't really an insult. Will even laughed it. Jada didn't even look upset, she just rolled her eyes like it was a "dad joke." The real story is what did Jada say to Will to make him go completely insane in a matter of seconds??

Voted 3, Violence is never the answer !

But, IDK ? I am on the fence here a little ! On one hand Will overreacted , but he did think Chris knew of Jada's medical condition , and was just being a tasteless, insensitive jerk trying to do anything for a laugh :(, I could see how Will would be upset and want to defend his Wife's honor! ;)

But on the other hand, could have done it just in words not in a fist ! ;)But than Chris wasn't hurt , didn't even seem that upset , and both apologized!

Police should not at all be involved and if I had to pick one, I guess I take Chris's side more, but can see where Will would've been upset as I said before if he thought Chris knew about his Wife's medical condition !;)

Voted 3, Violence is never the answer !

But, IDK ? I am on the fence here a little ! On one hand Will overreacted , but he did think Chris knew of Jada's medical condition , and was just being a tasteless, insensitive jerk trying to do anything for a laugh :(, I could see how Will would be upset and want to defend his Wife's honor! ;)

But on the other hand, could have done it just in words not in a fist ! ;)But than Chris wasn't hurt , didn't even seem that upset , and both apologized!

Police should not at all be involved and if I had to pick one, I guess I take Chris's side more, but can see where Will would've been upset as I said before if he thought Chris knew about his Wife's medical condition !;)

Oh and for sure, Will should not have his award revoked ! He works hard as an actor and did a great job in King Richard ! The incident with Chris has no connection with Will's winning an award that he deserved in doing a good job in a movie ! ;)

First off, no he shouldn't have the Oscar rescinded because he has worked hard 30+ for an award. Plus if are supporting taking away awards does that got for rapist Harvey Weinstein and pedophiles Woody Allen and Roman Polanski? Also, while he shouldn't have slapped Chris Rock, that joke was horrific. I have several autoimmune diseases as well and if someone to make a "joke" about my condition I would let them know how despicable they are. Would I hit them? Maybe, but likely would swear at them.

The joke wasn't really an insult. Will even laughed it. Jada didn't even look upset, she just rolled her eyes like it was a "dad joke." The real story is what did Jada say to Will to make him go completely insane in a matter of seconds??

Iv'e wondered this, too. Was it, Hey, are you just gonna sit there? DO SOMETHING!

Chris Rock didn't even know about the alopecia. It was a G.I. Jane joke, not an alopecia joke. And even if he did know about Jada's disease, it is still no excuse for what Will Smith did. Smith behaved like a caveman, like an animal, no class at all. He makes me sick now. He is obviously so very, very unhinged and unbalanced.

Team Chris Rock 100%

Will Smith should have been taken away in handcuffs the moment after he hit Chris Rock.

If the two of us agree this much on a subject, that pretty much ought to be the end of the discussion. Close the poll.

Will Smith is lower than ****. And I've known this since the first time I saw him.

If the two of us agree this much on a subject, that pretty much ought to be the end of the discussion. Close the poll.
This is a first! :lol: Me and Babalu actually agree on something, probably won't happen again? :confused::lol:

The Academy's failure to take assertive action just gives me renewed appreciation for the actors in years past who have taken a stand and refused awards to them, for a variety of ideological differences.

Adam Sandler has expressed his support for Chris Rock after the comedian was slapped by Will Smith at the Oscars.
Sandler, who has known Rock since they joined Saturday Night Live together in 1990, tweeted out a plug for Rock’s upcoming Ego Death world tour.
The Happy Gilmore star, who has collaborated with Rock on films such as Grown Ups and The Week Of, also wrote: “Love you buddy!”


"I felt like Hollywood is just spineless en masse and it really felt like 'oh this is a really clear indication that we aren't the cool club anymore,'"

On Rock's decision not to file charges against Smith, Carrey said: "He doesn't want the hassle."

"I would have announced this morning I was suing Will for $200 million because that video is gonna be there forever," he said. "It is going to be ubiquitous. That insult is going to last a very long time."

Never Say Never. Everybody should mind their own personal business without conflict

This is a first! :lol: Me and Babalu actually agree on something, probably won't happen again? :confused::lol:

Now you two have to kiss :lol: Seriously though, in my opinion, not everything is black and white, most issues fall into grey and aren't really political (or shouldn't

I dunno folks, afterall...look what happened to Pete Rose, or more recently Trevor Bauer. (Both worked hard to attain success)

The authority having jurisdiction made it clear that misbehavior will not be tolerated. Bauer has been cleared of all criminal charges, and he's STILL in the penalty box.

I believe that celebrities need to be held to an even higher standard than the rank and file, just to assure there is no mistake about right vs wrong in the message sent to impressionable children.

Perhaps if Smith was required to donate the trophy to some "non-violence" cause, then the healing might begin?

I think Chris is doing the right thing , he wasn't hurt and he prefers to let it blow over without more drama. It is clear now he didn't know of Jada's condition and was just joking with her about her hair. He is truly sorry for what he said!

At this point now he looks more the adult, mature one and Will looks more the fool. Chris feels It needs to just he done with at this point .;)

If I was throwing a party, and attendee "A" started a fight with attendee "B", then I would feel as though "A" had disrespected my hospitality, regardless if A and B made peace. It's a matter of respecting the house.

I think Chris is doing the right thing , he wasn't hurt and he prefers to let it blow over without more drama. It is clear now he didn't know of Jada's condition and was just joking with her about her hair. He is truly sorry for what he said!

At this point now he looks more the adult, mature one and Will looks more the fool. Chris feels It needs to just he done with at this point .;)

Chris Rock is a class act and he has a billion times more tact than Will Smith who has now proved that he is a reckless, unhinged, hot tempered violent man who jumped to a conclusion before he attacked Rock. Will Smith is a disgrace. I feel so bad for Chris Rock who was just being a comedian telling a dumb joke... had no idea that Smith's wife has alopecia.
Will Smith's enormous ego and sense of entitlement needs to be put in check. He just assumes that everyone knows that Jada has alopecia. Believe it or not, not everyone follows him and his family to the point where they know every aspect of their lives.
I used to like Will Smith. Now I despise him. I will never like him again.

Wow, this was a very interesting situation. Here is my take on this:

I personally don’t think Chris Rock should have made that joke about Will’s wife. It was just insolent and wrong. However, as much as I think it was so insolent and wrong, I don’t think he deserved that smack from Will Smith. That was wrong too. It’s not like Chris said, “hey, Will, I f*cked your wife last night. That was the best I’ve ever felt in years!” And besides, the slap just added more fuel to the fire.

Here's a question: There's a guy on local radio who says this whole thing was set up. I don't buy into that but what do others think?

Here's a question: There's a guy on local radio who says this whole thing was set up. I don't buy into that but what do others think?
I don’t think so. It felt very real, especially when Will started cursing at Chris.

Here's a question: There's a guy on local radio who says this whole thing was set up. I don't buy into that but what do others think?

Not a chance.

The light shining on this is way too bright.

It astounds me that anyone actually watched Will Smith in anything.

Here's a question: There's a guy on local radio who says this whole thing was set up. I don't buy into that but what do others think?

It was clearly very real. You could tell by the true rage and emotion on Will's face and in his voice. He looked like he had lost his mind and went berserk. You also knew it was real by the way Will's publicist and Denzel Washington tried to calm the maniac down. He was truly unhinged. No doubt about it. Another clue that it was very real is that it was so obvious that Chris Rock never expected to be assaulted. He had his hands behind his back the entire time that Will walked up to him and even right before he was hit.

Speaking of Denzil, I've heard he often plays the peacemaker and it was obvious this time.

Speaking of Denzil, I've heard he often plays the peacemaker and it was obvious this time.

Denzel seems like a good guy. He does usually play a role of a good guy. I also think he's a much better actor than that loony bird, Will Smith.

Denzel seems like a good guy. He does usually play a role of a good guy. I also think he's a much better actor than that loony bird, Will Smith.

PLus not seeking attention like him.

PLus not seeking attention like him.

Yep, Denzel is no attention whore like Will Smith. Will Smith just had to make the whole night about HIM. He just had to make himself the focus of the evening. He's pathetic.

This issue continues get press, front and center, the producer of the oscars was just interviewed and talking about how the LAPD was called in and that Rock would not press charges and yet crimes ( robberies, muggings, killings) galore all over LA are being committed and no LAPD to be found...talk about a sick society...and again the slap was not in order, but a slap and the LAPD called in...geeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzz

Chris Rock made an emotional return to the stage on Wednesday night for the first time since Will Smith slapped him at the Academy Awards.

Rock made his first public remarks about the incident. In his first of two shows, he was greeted by the audience at Boston's Wilbur Theater with two back-to-back standing ovations, lasting several minutes.

"Let me be all misty and s***," Rock said with tears in his eyes, gesturing to the crowd's warm response.

"How was your weekend?" he quipped, to which the audience responded with laughter.

"I don't have a bunch of s*** about what happened, so if you came to hear that, I had like a whole show I wrote before this weekend. And I'm still kind of processing what happened, so at some point I'll talk about that s***. And it'll be serious and it'll be funny, but right now I'm going to tell some jokes."

The comedian, currently on his "Ego Death Tour," then continued his performance.

Marsha Paul, who attended the show, told CNN she could tell Rock was moved by the audience reception.

"The crowd just went crazy when he came on stage," she said. "They were really happy to see him and support him."

Another concertgoer told CNN that Rock put on a good show, quickly moving past the Oscars in his set.

"Didn't seem like he wanted to talk about it, which didn't really bother us since he was so entertaining he didn't need to."

"Didn't seem like he wanted to talk about it, which didn't really bother us since he was so entertaining he didn't need to."

I have heard that he didn't want to joke and make light of it until the Academy's punishment is handed down because he didn't want to diminish the seriousness of it.

Will Smith Resigns From Film Academy Over Oscars Slap, Issues Extensive Apology

The actor described his on-stage assault of Chris Rock at the Academy Awards as "shocking, painful and inexcusable."

By Sarah Ruiz-Grossman
Apr. 1, 2022, 07:14 PM EDT | Updated 4 hours ago
Actor Will Smith issued a second apology Friday for slapping comedian Chris Rock at the Oscars, saying he would resign his membership in the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.

In a lengthy statement, the actor said his actions during the Oscars on Sunday were “shocking, painful and inexcusable,” and he was prepared to “accept any further consequences” that the academy’s board of governors “deems appropriate.”

“The list of those I have hurt is long and includes Chris, his family, many of my dear friends and loved ones, all those in attendance, and global audiences,” Smith said, adding that he is “committed to doing the work to ensure that I never again allow violence to overtake reason.”

He was shocked by his own behavior? Maybe some anger management treatment would help.

He was shocked by his own behavior? Maybe some anger management treatment would help.
Dude definitely has serious mental problems and some stone cold narcissism seeing as how he totally hijacked the Academy's Oscars night so he could make everything about him and his hurt feelings. Dude is lower than dirt. He's dirty rocks. Another thing, I'd bet money that someone wrote that most recent apology and I'm sure that he was forced to resign.

He was shocked by his own behavior? Maybe some anger management treatment would help.


He wasn't shocked by his own behavior. He was shocked that he didn't get away with it.

He wasn't shocked by his own behavior. He was shocked that he didn't get away with it.
He can also be shocked as to why he's completely destroyed his career. Idiot. Like him or not, you know he had a very successful career. Now, it's probably all over. Fool. He destroyed himself in just one instant.

He can also be shocked as to why he's completely destroyed his career. Idiot. Like him or not, you know he had a very successful career. Now, it's probably all over. Fool. He destroyed himself in just one instant.

As of 2021, his films have grossed over $9.3 billion globally. He's one of Hollywood's most bankable stars. The notion that he has destroyed his career is crazy. Hollywood tends to forgive and forget.

As long as people still go to his films, it's not going to affect him too much. It might take him a year or two to rehabilitate his image. He will do all the big talk show interviews. You can expect an Oprah Winfrey interview.

As of 2021, his films have grossed over $9.3 billion globally. He's one of Hollywood's most bankable stars. The notion that he has destroyed his career is crazy. Hollywood tends to forgive and forget.

As long as people still go to his films, it's not going to affect him too much. It might take him a year or two to rehabilitate his image. He will do all the big talk show interviews. You can expect an Oprah Winfrey interview.

Let's see how many roles he lands in the future. And I do not expect an Oprah Winfrey interview with him.

The notion that he has destroyed his career is crazy. Hollywood tends to forgive and forget.

I agree that he'll act again, but even if he doesn't he can always go back to his rap career. Violent jerks are totally acceptable there.

I went with "mind your damn business"...this was not the first time celebrity controversy happened.

Let's see how many roles he lands in the future. And I do not expect an Oprah Winfrey interview with him.

He'll probably be on some interview getting teary-eyed. Probably Ellen wouldn't have him but maybe Savannah.

He'll probably be on some interview getting teary-eyed. Probably Ellen wouldn't have him but maybe Savannah.

Dopey Whoopi Goldberg will stick up for that lunatic. I'm pretty sure she's the only one on "The View" (whatever it's called) that stuck up for him.

I actually used to like Will Smith but now I despise him. I'll never look at him the same way again. He truly makes me sick, will never again watch any of his movies or even Fresh Prince of Bel Air reruns which stinks for me because I like Alfonso Ribeiro ("Carlton") a lot. Will's acting career will never be the same either.

I went with "mind your damn business"..

..Kinda hard to say that when the act is committed on nationwide TV network, in a globally recognized award ceremony.

Seriously, I've been trying to imagine what I would have done if I was in Smith's shoes, AND IF I felt motivated towards violence (big "if" BTW), I believe my first reaction would have been "Yeah, great now I gotta wait for this thing to be over, before I can settle-up".

It takes a special kind of arrogant jerk to pull something like this off, center stage ...at the biggest event in the industry you work in.

Smith really did disrespect everyone in attendance, everyone watching, and especially every one of his colleagues set to receive awards for their own accomplishments.

There have been a handful of his movies that I personally have found enjoyable, and come to think of it the roles he played in those movies were very much in character with a self indulgent jerk preoccupied with his own priorities.

So, I'm thinking maybe he wasn't playing Some actors do their best work when performing roles suited to their own nature.

Some actors do their best work when performing roles suited to their own nature.

Immediately Charlie Sheen comes to mind.

As of 2021, his films have grossed over $9.3 billion globally. He's one of Hollywood's most bankable stars. The notion that he has destroyed his career is crazy. Hollywood tends to forgive and forget.

As long as people still go to his films, it's not going to affect him too much. It might take him a year or two to rehabilitate his image. He will do all the big talk show interviews. You can expect an Oprah Winfrey interview.


Exactly. How many NFL players with criminal records who can still play and aren't in jail are unemployed? Zero.

All those Hollywood biggies talking out now were so horribly offended yet not one of them walked off the show in protest. If the hosts had threatened to walk off they would have had to have thrown him out.

Exactly. How many NFL players with criminal records who can still play and aren't in jail are unemployed? Zero.


Is Michael Vick's career still thriving after the two years he spent in prison?
Didn't Aaron Hernandez get sentenced to life without parole before he killed himself?

Is Michael Vick's career still thriving after the two years he spent in prison?
Didn't Aaron Hernandez get sentenced to life without parole before he killed himself?

I don't follow football anymore for a myriad of reasons but I know that Aaron Hernandez was sentenced to life so he physically couldn't play in the NFL. But i would venture to guess that there are least 30 convicted felons in the NFL at any given time, maybe 50+. Many have had their records sealed because they were minors. I doubt there's one NFL team that has no players that were ever arrested.

Is Michael Vick's career still thriving after the two years he spent in prison?
Didn't Aaron Hernandez get sentenced to life without parole before he killed himself?

Michael Vick played another seven seasons in the NFL after the 21 months in prison. He won the Comeback Player of the Year award in 2010. He officially retired at age 36. He did a lot of PSAs and charity work to rehabilitate his image. He has been working as an analyst for FOX NFL Kickoff and other Fox Sports 1 programs.

Babalu is right about the NFL. Some people call it the National Felon League.

"USA Today has kept track of all arrests in the NFL since 2000. Between last year's Super Bowl to Jan. 17, 2022, there have been 26 players arrested. Of those 26, five were related to guns, and seven were related to alcohol."

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/sports/four-nfl-players-taken-into-custody-in-past-week

NFL player arrests database: Records since 2000

https://databases.usatoday.com/nfl-arrests/

Will Smith’s Contracts Get Pulled After Academy Awards Controversy

Netflix and Sony have stepped away from their projects with Will Smith a week after he slapped Chris Rock at the Academy Awards.

Upcoming projects that Smith expected to complete have now officially halted as a result of the now-infamous Oscars slap, the CBC reports. The Netflix film “Fast and Loose” and Sony’s highly anticipated movie, “Bad Boys 4” have both been put on hold, according to The Hollywood Reporter.

Netflix Backs Away from Will Smith Film ‘Fast and Loose’ (Exclusive) https://t.co/IFoYjrXQcZ

— The Hollywood Reporter (@THR) April 2, 2022

The incident between Smith and Rock at the Oscars has halted projects that were well underway. This has had an immediate impact on Smith’s career: “I doubt any big studio or streamer is going to take a chance in signing Will Smith until [Smith’s brand recovers], until that process is under way,” media analyst Jeff Bock said, according to the CBC.

Smith’s Apple+ drama, titled “Emancipation,” is in post-production and was poised to debut this year, according to The Hollywood Reporter. Sony’s “Bad Boys 4” has been in “active development” and 40 script pages had already been given to Smith, but it has all been “quietly shelved,” the outlet continued.

Netflix has backed away from developing ‘FAST & LOOSE’, starring Will Smith.

David Leitch dropped out before the #Oscars, so Netflix sent an urgent call to find a new director but have put the project on the back burner after the #Oscars

(Source: https://t.co/AoF3vyCX8t) pic.twitter.com/ljHAwCn14Y

— DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) April 2, 2022

Hollywood publicist Michael Levine sounded the alarm when he said Smith had “deeply damaged” his career as a result of his actions at the Oscars, according to CBC. Forbes Magazine box office analyst Scott Mendelson went on to state Smith had destroyed “a carefully crafted 30-year image of approachable, harmless and always-on movie star charisma,” the outlet continued.

Crisis publicist Howard Bragman echoed concern for Smith’s future, according to CBC. Smith’s career will now be defined as “‘pre-‘ this moment and ‘after’ this moment,” he said.

Smith recently announced his resignation from The Academy.

Well, the Academy has moved up their meeting to decide Smith's fate, to today...should be in progress as we speak.

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/academy-moves-up-will-smith-board-meeting-to-discuss-sanctions-in-a-timely-fashion/

Will Smith is banned for 10 years from academy events, including the Oscars



Nearly two weeks after Will Smith slapped Chris Rock at the Oscars over a joke about his wife, Jada Pinkett Smith, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences announced Friday it is forbidding Smith from attending any academy events, including the Oscars, for 10 years.

“This action we are taking today in response to Will Smith’s behavior is a step toward a larger goal of protecting the safety of our performers and guests, and restoring trust in the academy,” the organization’s President David Rubin and CEO Dawn Hudson said in a open letter to members following a meeting of the organization’s 54-member board. “We also hope this can begin a time of healing and restoration for all involved and impacted.”

Following the decision, Smith issued a statement that read: “I accept and respect the academy’s decision.”

The news comes one week after Smith — who went on to win the lead actor Oscar less than an hour after striking Rock — resigned from the academy, calling his actions “shocking, painful, and inexcusable.” By resigning, Smith preempted what many expected to be his potential suspension or expulsion from the academy. But the organization, under pressure to hold Smith accountable for the violent outburst that derailed the Oscars and stunned millions of viewers, was determined to press ahead with the disciplinary proceedings it announced the day after the ceremony.

What I find ironic is how Will “couldn’t take it no more” when it came to a little joke, but he seems to let the fact that his wife has slept around with other men slip right past him.

Will Smith is banned for 10 years from academy events, including the Oscars


I'd say it would be nice to see the Oscars without him but I have no intention of watching them anyway. I did watch them years ago (like I watched TV years ago) but there just isn't any reason to watch them now. The movies are all woke and so are the people that make them. What happened last week was just the logical conclusion of the pandering to the lowest of the low. I hope they have fun when the only eligible nominee will be the black native American handi-capable transsexual lesbian midget with AIDS.

What I find ironic is how Will “couldn’t take it no more” when it came to a little joke, but he seems to let the fact that his wife has slept around with other men slip right past him.

He's a hen-pecked punk.

What I'm going to say has nothing to do with Smith and hollywood, but a comparison of sorts on what this crazy state does with criminals...lets them out of prison and are so soft on them so they out all over LA committing more horrible crimes.....banning Smith for 10 yrs....that's nuts...I watched the oscars for years .and did a lot of hollywood but no more.

I think it's interesting that Smith said he "accepted" the Academy's ban. Like he had a choice.

Also re Calif. being soft on criminals--nothing exclusive there. All the Soros-backed prosecutors are like that.

What I find ironic is how Will “couldn’t take it no more” when it came to a little joke, but he seems to let the fact that his wife has slept around with other men slip right past him.

It's hard to say this without it coming across making excuses for Will, but he grow up in an abusive household. And Will by his own admission, felt like a failure for being unable to protect his mother (from his father's abuse). So what's not to say that his actions against Chris Rock indicate unresolved childhood trauma?

Allegedly, people who read Will's memoir and saw the King Richard movie are saying that this all happened because of those two combos. It's kind of like how Heath Ledger ODed and died because the Joker role in The Dark Knight affected him too much. It actually from that perspective, had little to nothing to do with Jada or Chris Rock.

I think it's interesting that Smith said he "accepted" the Academy's ban. Like he had a choice.

Also re Calif. being soft on criminals--nothing exclusive there. All the Soros-backed prosecutors are like that.

They definitely wanted to make an example out of Will Smith. I'm assuming that they went to the extent that they did in no small part due to the Academy already catching hit for not asking Will to leave the building after the slap. Also, we have to take into account the fact that Will already resigned and Chris didn't want to press charges. And you can't revoke his Oscar because that would instantly open up a can of worms from people demanding that Roman Polanski or Harvey Weinstein be revoked of their Oscars too.

I think it's interesting that Smith said he "accepted" the Academy's ban. Like he had a choice.
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So, does the 10 year ban mean that Smith is prohibited from winning any more awards during that 10 years, or is this just a perfunctory gesture?

It's hard to say this without it coming across making excuses for Will, but he grow up in an abusive household. And Will by his own admission, felt like a failure for being unable to protect his mother (from his father's abuse). So what's not to say that his actions against Chris Rock indicate unresolved childhood trauma?

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His life's experiences mean that HE SHOULD KNOW BETTER than to drop to that level.

It's sad in a way, similar to the way Israel bawls INCESSANTLY about the holocaust, but turns right around and commits atrocities such as Sabra and Shatila (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre) or the systematic erasure of the Palestinian people.

One has to be almost purposely not paying attention to overlook such irony

I think it's interesting that Smith said he "accepted" the Academy's ban. Like he had a choice.

Also re Calif. being soft on criminals--nothing exclusive there. All the Soros-backed prosecutors are like that.

This is true about Soros and his dirty money and supporting DA's soft on crime...Why why why, is he that radically LEFT? I guess so.

This is true about Soros and his dirty money and supporting DA's soft on crime...Why why why, is he that radically LEFT? I guess so.

WHY WHY WHY can't you ever stay on topic? :confused:

So, does the 10 year ban mean that Smith is prohibited from winning any more awards during that 10 years, or is this just a perfunctory gesture?Will Smith is banned from returning to the Oscars or attending any other Academy events for the next 10 years.

I think it's an appropriate punishment, just should have happened sooner. He was made to resign and now he's on a 10 year ban. An appropriate punishment. Actually, I think he should have been removed from the building the moment he assaulted Chris Rock. I'll go as far as saying I think he deserved to be arrested. Some think he should have his Oscar taken away, but I think that would be way too much. After all, he earned that Oscar for his work on the movie King Richard, long before the assault. I'm glad he's being punished, it's enough IMO, just think it should have happened way sooner.

WHY WHY WHY can't you ever stay on topic? :confused:

I was responding to stevea's comment on Soros,,,thank you very much...can't you read what I was responding to??? No, you enjoy flying off the handle.

So, does the 10 year ban mean that Smith is prohibited from winning any more awards during that 10 years, or is this just a perfunctory gesture?

He can win ‘em, they would just have to be shipped to him. So the UPS guy better be nice to Jada.

I was responding to stevea's comment on Soros,,,thank you very much...can't you read what I was responding to??? No, you enjoy flying off the handle.

He was also talking about Will Smith (the topic of this thread.) You weren't.

He can win ‘em, they would just have to be shipped to him. So the UPS guy better be nice to Jada.

This is stupid. He should be banned from being nominated, but I guess it doesn't matter because he won't get any Oscar bait roles for a very long time.

This is stupid. He should be banned from being nominated, but I guess it doesn't matter because he won't get any Oscar bait roles for a very long time.

When I initially asked the question, what I had in the back of my mind was the cliquishness of the organization . I'd be surprised if he can blow enough egos sufficiently to return to good standing.

People will be able to make a statement by not giving him recognition. Who knows? In just a couple years we might see Smith working tv ads hustling medicare advantage policies.

He was also talking about Will Smith (the topic of this thread.) You weren't.

I know, oh and how perfect we need to be here, huh???????:lol::lol:

How does being perfect feel, Wawwie?????

I know, oh and how perfect we need to be here, huh???????:lol::lol:

How does being perfect feel, Wawwie?????

Do you think you can stay on topic, weirdo? The topic is Will Smith & Chris Rock. :crazy:

He can win ‘em, they would just have to be shipped to him. So the UPS guy better be nice to Jada.

Oh F !!! Damn it Opus !!!:lol::D I am on a bus, and you made me ROFL at that ! :lol::D But again in LA on a public bus I fit right in almost doubling over laughing really loud by myself !! :crazy::lol::D

He can win ‘em, they would just have to be shipped to him. So the UPS guy better be nice to Jada.

If he's too nice you never know what might happen, with that open marriage.

If he's too nice you never know what might happen, with that open marriage. That might make some question whether or not Will's kids are really his. It also makes a lot of people wonder, if you're going to be in an "open marriage" then why bother being married at all?

Will Smith is a p***y whipped, hen-pecked punk.

I watched "Enemy of the State" last night...a movie that I've always enjoyed due to the anti-big brother undertow of the plot.

And the movie just had a completely different feel to it, it was nearly impossible to jump in league with Smith's character.

Which is amusing in context with the main antagonist's determination to destroy the reputation of Smith's character.

I think the Academy will do an about face within a year. All of the hoopla will predictably die down and the board will quietly meet to reevaluate their decision. So a reversal will be in the works.

I can't fathom that WS will be banned for 10 years. The public forgives and so does Hollywood.

I think the Academy will do an about face within a year. All of the hoopla will predictably die down and the board will quietly meet to reevaluate their decision. So a reversal will be in the works.

I can't fathom that WS will be banned for 10 years. The public forgives and so does Hollywood.

You have a good point. It only took several months for Roseanne to be back on cable networks reruns.

That might make some question whether or not Will's kids are really his. It also makes a lot of people wonder, if you're going to be in an "open marriage" then why bother being married at all?

Will Smith is a p***y whipped, hen-pecked punk.

Open marriage is a lot more common than I realized. Back in my modeling days I met so many people in open marriages and I never got it because if you want to sleep with others why get married? I wonder though if Will Smith cheats too, my guess is he does.

Open marriage is a lot more common than I realized. Back in my modeling days I met so many people in open marriages and I never got it because if you want to sleep with others why get married? I wonder though if Will Smith cheats too, my guess is he does.
Pretty sure I heard he does, but he’s obviously a bit more discreet with it.

Pretty sure I heard he does, but he’s obviously a bit more discreet with it.

Yeah, she's been open about it. I don't get it to be honest but the stories I've heard about movie stars make me not surprised.

If he's too nice you never know what might happen, with that open marriage.

In the old days men had to worry about the Milkman, the Breadman and the Mailman if the kids didn't look like him ! Now it's the UPS, FedX and the Amazon men !!! :lol::D:wave:

In the old days men had to worry about the Milkman, the Breadman and the Mailman if the kids didn't look like him ! Now it's the UPS, FedX and the Amazon men !!! :lol::D:wave:

“Package for you ma’am”

Open marriage is a lot more common than I realized. Back in my modeling days I met so many people in open marriages and I never got it because if you want to sleep with others why get married? I wonder though if Will Smith cheats too, my guess is he does.

Open marriages are NOT uncommon, millions just cheat and lie in their traditional marriages:rolleyes:
One of the major reasons for the open marriage deal, is for financial reasons....think about it...

And oh BTW, this is pretty off topic on smith and rock topic or is it and the fine lines of off topic???? A certain weird member here made a big deal of my saying something on this topic as it being OT....ummmm

That might make some question whether or not Will's kids are really his. It also makes a lot of people wonder, if you're going to be in an "open marriage" then why bother being married at all?

Will Smith is a p***y whipped, hen-pecked punk.


It amazes me that there are so many people that care about this open marriage thing. I couldn't care less what these unworthy Hollywood morons do. I couldn't tell you which Bimbodashian is which for anything.

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It amazes me that there are so many people that care about this open marriage thing. I couldn't care less what these unworthy Hollywood morons do. I couldn't tell you which Bimbodashian is which for anything.

Those who carry on about O.M. thing have nothing else to discuss....and it's not just hollywood and they are not morons but have an agreement with each other to do what they do. Pretty smart maybe, they have the best of both worlds..:lol:

If it's about the hollywood morons then the sitcom members are morons too as they place hollywood people on pedestals..

Living in CA 57 years is a huge difference in living in the East where I came from....and yes a shock at first but it's worked for me. Plus the weather omg...

Babalu, you kinda intrigue me, no gender on profile, so only you know..maybe others here know M or F gender....it really doesn't matter...many are just closed books..

It amazes me that there are so many people that care about this open marriage thing. I couldn't care less what these unworthy Hollywood morons do. I couldn't tell you which Bimbodashian is which for anything.

Love this. I just call them the Kartrashians, celebrities are boring actually.

Open marriages are NOT uncommon, millions just cheat and lie in their traditional marriages:rolleyes:
One of the major reasons for the open marriage deal, is for financial reasons....think about it...

And oh BTW, this is pretty off topic on smith and rock topic or is it and the fine lines of off topic???? A certain weird member here made a big deal of my saying something on this topic as it being OT....ummmm

Not really for financial reasons. Yes some marriages are for financial (such as arranged marriages) or publicity but some people just aren't monogamous.

Love this. I just call them the Kartrashians, celebrities are boring actually.

IlTVFan, sitcoms puts hollywood celebs right up there....don't you all.

Not really for financial reasons. Yes some marriages are for financial (such as arranged marriages) or publicity but some people just aren't monogamous.

We'll just disagree on this one, MANY don't want to give up half their money to a spouse so they have an arrangement.....and if both agree then what is the harm...so many marriages are a farce anyway, and yes a lot of good ones but enough bad ones.

We'll just disagree on this one, MANY don't want to give up half their money to a spouse so they have an arrangement.....and if both agree then what is the harm...so many marriages are a farce anyway, and yes a lot of good ones but enough bad ones.

But how do you know this? Were you in an open marriage? It's not always financial, some people just want to sleep with others.

Love this. I just call them the Kartrashians, celebrities are boring actually.

We can all agree on this. I can't believe that went on for years on E! or wherever. Who cares about these people and what they do?

I also don’t get the point of open marriage. Basically you’re cheating on your spouse, but your spouse is aware that you’re cheating. I guess after their supper has settled down, they’re ready to eat up dessert.

We can all agree on this. I can't believe that went on for years on E! or wherever. Who cares about these people and what they do?
:yeahthat

What really makes me sick to my stomach is this whole “scandal” with Kim Kardashian/Kanye West/SNL token Pete Davidson. This Davidson guy is probably just a boy toy until Kim gets tired to playing with toys. But yet everyone’s dying to hear what happens next at Delusion Manor.

But how do you know this? Were you in an open marriage? It's not always financial, some people just want to sleep with others.

No I was not in an OM, but I've lived in very liberal CA for over 55 yrs and have been "around" a lot of different people... given the chance people cheat. Many don't get or take chances and live quiet lives of desperation, many of them...and who says monogamy is the answer?????

And I'm not promoting OM, I'm very happy alone and no sexual conflicts around me.

Oh TV Legend, you need to hear yourself. You care a lot about the Kim's life and her choices...ignore them if they bother you. I don't care, but you sure do. It's their lives, not yours or ours.

Oh TV Legend, you need to hear yourself. You care a lot about the Kim's life and her choices...ignore them if they bother you. I don't care, but you sure do.
:rolleyes: Oh, knock it off. It’s not 1972 where the internet doesn’t exist and all the rage is trying to get a color TV.

:rolleyes: Oh, knock it off. It’s not 1972 where the internet doesn’t exist and all the rage is trying to get a color TV.

1972:confused::confused::confused:

1972:confused::confused::confused:
Never heard of that year before?

^^^ I was born in that year. And you're right, in 1972 there was no social media and nobody was having celebrity news shoved in their faces.

1972 there was no social media and nobody was having celebrity news shoved in their faces.

Howard Hughes "fake" autobiography
Burt Reynolds poses in Cosmo magazine
Hanoi Jane (Fonda)
Linda Lovelace

All attained "larger than life" notoriety for their central figure.

Never heard of that year before?

Of course I have heard about every year since 1938, but I don't need to know all that went on in each year. 1972 was 7 yrs before Rent Control started in Santa Monica, big event, thanks to Fonda and Hayden.

Boy oh boy, talk about going off topic, wawwie.

Howard Hughes "fake" autobiography
Burt Reynolds poses in Cosmo magazine
Hanoi Jane (Fonda)
Linda Lovelace

All attained "larger than life" notoriety for their central figure.
I was talking about internet social media. "Social media" was not "a thing" back in 1972.

Of course I have heard about every year since 1938, but I don't need to know all that went on in each year. 1972 was 7 yrs before Rent Control started in Santa Monica, big event, thanks to Fonda and Hayden.

Boy oh boy, talk about going off topic, wawwie.

You really need to up your dosage of grapeseed extract. You were responding to TVLegend, not me. Wake up.

in 1972 there was no social media and nobody was having celebrity news shoved in their faces.

Perhaps you intended a conditional relationship between both sides of your "and" statement, but it didn't appear that way to me.

The internet makes life easy for attention whores, but nonetheless there ALWAYS have been attention whores.

The internet makes life easy for attention whores, but nonetheless there ALWAYS have been attention whores.
Yes, and Will Smith has proved himself to be one of the biggest attention whores.

Its just aweful.........

Here's a guy who thinks it was staged--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0pq3jYOgws

Here's a guy who thinks it was staged--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0pq3jYOgws

Right, Will Smith thought he'd advance his career by being made to resign from the academy and be banned for ten years. :crazy:

^^^ I was born in that year. And you're right, in 1972 there was no social media and nobody was having celebrity news shoved in their faces.

Yeah, there was. It was just different for those times. They had all those celebrity magazines and newspapers at the supermarket checkout counter plus those teen heart throb magazines that girls had plastered all over their walls.

More significantly, I am not the only one who believes that Smith should forfeit his Oscar to confirm that he understands the significance of atonement.

https://wgnradio.com/news/veteran-actor-says-will-smith-must-return-oscar/

Here's a chance for Smith to demonstrate that he's a better man than the Weinsteins and the Polanskis of the world.

If he keeps the Oscar, I don't see how he can consider it to be anything other than "loot". In contrast, giving it back would, IMO, pave the way to expedite the healing process. Make him appear less selfish.

You know, as a way to confirm that he's truly sorry for the act, and not just sorry that it inspired such a backlash..

More significantly, I am not the only one who believes that Smith should forfeit his Oscar to confirm that he understands the significance of atonement.

https://wgnradio.com/news/veteran-actor-says-will-smith-must-return-oscar/



I despise Will Smith now. I even think he should have been arrested, but he was punished. He was made to resign from the academy and he was banned for ten years. I think forfeiting his Oscar would be too much. He earned that Oscar for his work on the movie, King Richard, long before the incident. He did earn that Oscar. He is being punished for what happened on Oscar night. It's not like he's getting away with anything.

Here's a chance for Smith to demonstrate that he's a better man than the Weinsteins and the Polanskis of the world.
He'll never be truly sorry for what he did, assaulting Chris Rock and disrespecting the Academy. He's only regretful that he made an ass out of his self and he regrets it because of the consequences (being banned and losing his Netflix deal.)

I He earned that Oscar for his work on the movie, King Richard, long before the incident. He did earn that Oscar. He is being punished for what happened on Oscar night. It's not like he's getting away with anything.



It's not all that uncommon for acts of indiscretion to negate greater accomplishments.

Just as an abstract example....Sorta like offending the boss' wife at the company christmas party, and then wondering where your annual bonus went..

And, FWIW, I'm no longer talking about an involuntary sanction imposed upon him. I'm saying that Smith should gratuitously surrender the award, to demonstrate his sincerity in atonement.

I'm saying that Smith should gratuitously surrender the award, to demonstrate his sincerity in atonement.

Will Smith will never surrender his Oscar and I don't think he should. That Oscar award has nothing to do with his outrageous, criminal and despicable actions on Oscar's night, especially since he won the award before the incident. He's been punished enough IMO, except I think he should have been taken away in handcuffs the moment after he assaulted Chris Rock.

Wow, wawwie, you need to be a DA in so many of the states that let so many off for major crimes.....

Wow, wawwie, you need to be a DA in so many of the states that let so many off for major crimes.....

I just finished saying he should have been arrested. Not sure how that means: "let so many off for major crimes."

P.S. GentlemanJim is the one who wants to take his Oscar away, not me. So I don't understand why you're not harassing him. Just me.

Well, you and I will just have to disagree. I might be inclined to agree with you had Smith's indiscretion happened in a neutral venue. (~might~,.. I'm just trying to be generous)

But at the main industry gala event? Sorry, too much disrespect to be glossed over.

Now, if he DID forfeit the award, I would then be forced to recognize him as uncommonly compassionate. It would make me feel like the bad guy for not forgiving him.

But I have no doubt you are right, he'll remain stubbornly selfish, and in so doing ...completely justify my contempt.

But I have no doubt you are right, he'll remain stubbornly selfish, and in so doing ...completely justify my contempt.
Yep, he's a proven narcissist and attention whore, cocky and egotistical. It's all a pathetic attempt to mask the fact that he's actually an insecure, hen-pecked p***y.

So I don't understand why you're not harassing him.

FWIW, I consider that to be a personal attack, in violation of this forum's TOS.

Encouraging one member against another has GOT to cross some boundaries?

FWIW, I consider that to be a personal attack, in violation of this forum's TOS.

Encouraging one member against another has GOT to cross some boundaries?

Wondering about something and encouraging something are two different things.

You are not the one being singled out by a weirdo Will Smith sympathizer.

You are not the one being singled out by a weirdo Will Smith sympathizer.

Irrelevant. You are trying to make me the target of a weirdo Will Smith sympathizer*.
I think if you look into the TOS, you'll find a prohibition against trying to provoke members against one another.


* just using your terms

FWIW, I consider that to be a personal attack, in violation of this forum's TOS.

BTW, I wasn't attacking YOU. I was stating to Caroline that I wonder (not encourage), I wonder why she is singling me out when it is you who wants the Oscar taken away from Smith. I was also wondering why she was implying that I'm soft on criminals when I have said numerous times that I think Smith should have been arrested.

I was wondering, not encouraging. OK ;):)

FWIW, I consider that to be a personal attack, in violation of this forum's TOS.

Encouraging one member against another has GOT to cross some boundaries?

Yikes, GJ, talk about attacks...so G.D. anger and hatred around here...

Irrelevant. You are trying to make me the target of a weirdo Will Smith sympathizer*.
I think if you look into the TOS, you'll find a prohibition against trying to provoke members against one another.


* just using your terms

Wow, that lasted for all of ten seconds.... I thought I could finally tolerate you, wow, was I wrong! Now you and Caroline can go make out under a poster of Will Smith after trashing me.

P.S. You are out of your freaking mind. I was never attacking you. Up until just now I was actually starting to like you.

No, he shouldn't lose his Oscar, unless they want to take away all Oscars from even worse people like Harvey Weinstein.

I'm not sure what is going on here actually.

^ (several posts) it would be hard to edit and/or dump all these angry posts. GJ, calm down--everybody take it easy. It wasn't a personal attack. Just heated debate.

Meanwhile back at the Oscars...

^ (several posts) it would be hard to edit and/or dump all these angry posts. GJ, calm down--everybody take it easy. It wasn't a personal attack. Just heated debate.

Meanwhile back at the Oscars...

Oh stevea, I went thru the last 10 or so posts and some one deleted the word jackass and perhaps weirdo as I've been called that one enough by WWWW

Yeah, there was. It was just different for those times. They had all those celebrity magazines and newspapers at the supermarket checkout counter plus those teen heart throb magazines that girls had plastered all over their walls.
You’re right, but as a recall, unless you were into those celebrity magazines/newspapers or heart throb magazines, none of them followed you home. Nowadays, all you have to do is turn on the TV or hop on the computer, or if you’re not at home, put on the radio and all you’ll hear/see is a bunch of goons cussing like sailors, making a fuss over Rodney Lee’s daughter, Dani Lee, cheating on Fuzzy Bagg$ with Paris With ‘Da Beat (that’s if songs aren’t playing at the time). Don’t misinterpret what I’m saying, almost everyone cusses like sailors (including me), and yes, things are different, but it’s seems as if people have trouble handling things with some sense nowadays. You got these famous black rappers/singers or just rappers/singers in general, being seen in public, with their pants sagging and a different “partner” every other day, when they’re not on “IG” or wherever on social media crying their asses off over Squirrel or Lindsay betraying them. There’s a significant loss of decency when it comes to the star’s own lives, from The Kartrashian family to Chris Brown.

BTW, I wasn't attacking YOU. I was stating to Caroline that I wonder (not encourage), I wonder why she is singling me out when it is you who wants the Oscar taken away from Smith. I was also wondering why she was implying that I'm soft on criminals when I have said numerous times that I think Smith should have been arrested.

I was wondering, not encouraging. OK ;):)

You were trying to deflect her attention away from you and were more than happy to try and use me as a sacrificial lamb. Whichever way you try to rationalize it in your own mind is your trip. But do not ignore the truth....you simply got caught and are now trying to walk it back. :lol:

Wow, that lasted for all of ten seconds.... I thought I could finally tolerate you, wow, was I wrong! Now you and Caroline can go make out under a poster of Will Smith after trashing me.

Up until just now I was actually starting to like you.

It was starting to seem a little surreal to me as well, in a "when is Rod Serling going to start his intro?" sort of way. :talk:

You've come a long way! ;)

^ (several posts) it would be hard to edit and/or dump all these angry posts. GJ, calm down--everybody take it easy. It wasn't a personal attack. Just heated debate.

Meanwhile back at the Oscars...GJ needs a chill pill... (xanax maybe) :crazy::lol:

Please, GJ, let's just close this discussion...

Meanwhile back at the Oscars...

Something happen at the Oscars? :confused:

News to me...

I despise Will Smith now. I even think he should have been arrested, but he was punished. He was made to resign from the academy and he was banned for ten yearsYa but im wondering if this is enough... Does he even care he had to resign?

Academy got Will Smith's slap punishment exactly right (https://www.thewrap.com/will-smith-oscars-ban-toothless-penalty-white-privilege/)

The Academy's decision to ban Smith (https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/will-smith-banned-from-oscars-for-10-years-in-little-more-than-slap-on-the-wrist-from-oscar-board-of-governors.4864979/) from the Oscars for 10 years for slapping Chris Rock has been called everything from too harsh to too lenient (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/will-smith-oscars-ban-academy-reactions-1235127609/). Veteran actor Harry Lennix (https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/veteran-actor-harry-lennix-says-will-smith-must-return-oscar-to-restore-the-award%E2%80%99s-honor.4866337/) described the ban as “a toothless penalty that lays bare the shallowness of Hollywood morals” (https://variety.com/2022/film/columns/harry-lennix-will-smith-chris-rock-slap-oscars-1235228965/) and calling on Smith to return his Oscar. Others say the punishment is too severe when other Oscar winners -- Kevin Spacey, Adrien Brody, Mel Gibson and others -- haven't been punished at all for their bad behavior. But as Benjamin Svetkey notes, the punishment "seems totally fair and proportional, especially considering that Smith had already apologized and resigned from the Academy in a savvy gesture of contrition. Anything less would have been a slap on the wrist. Anything more would have been overkill."

Will Smith will never surrender his Oscar and I don't think he should. That Oscar award has nothing to do with his outrageous, criminal and despicable actions on Oscar's night, especially since he won the award before the incident. He's been punished enough IMO, except I think he should have been taken away in handcuffs the moment after he assaulted Chris Rock.


Well, he may have won before it happened, but no one knew it until after it happened.

I would argue (and I didn't, nor do I ever intend to see the movie) that he only won because of woke Hollywood's obsession with race and the constant haranguing of voters so that only woke approved classes of people win. So in my book, the 'win' doesn't count because the race was fixed.

Well, he may have won before it happened, but no one knew it until after it happened.

I would argue (and I didn't, nor do I ever intend to see the movie) that he only won because of woke Hollywood's obsession with race and the constant haranguing of voters so that only woke approved classes of people win. So in my book, the 'win' doesn't count because the race was fixed.

You might be right. It might be true, but it also might not be true. In any case, he did earn or win the award before the assault.

I still say he should have been taken away in cuffs.

I would argue (and I didn't, nor do I ever intend to see the movie) that he only won because of woke Hollywood's obsession with race and the constant haranguing of voters so that only woke approved classes of people win. .

You're right on the money there. The whole thing is just a pageant of self indulgence by self proclaimed elites.

It's been 40+ years since I've even watched one of their ceremonies. Maybe this whole thing is the best thing that ever happened to them? Has put them in more people's minds as attention worthy.

On a more positive note, the trophy is (now) likely to be the only one he will ever win, and if he decides to keep and relish it.....there will always be a taint to the moment that he will never escape.

Like Roger Maris' asterisk.

You're right on the money there. The whole thing is just a pageant of self indulgence by self proclaimed elites.

It's been 40+ years since I've even watched one of their ceremonies. Maybe this whole thing is the best thing that ever happened to them? Has put them in more people's minds as attention worthy.

This is true of all these Hollywood award shows--Grammys, Emmys, etc. It probably one reason their ratings are generally on a downward spiral (yes, this year's Oscars had better ratings than last year's--so they are next-to-worst.

DJ Jazzy Jeff calls Will Smith's slap of Chris Rock a "lapse in judgment" (https://people.com/movies/dj-jazzy-jeff-defends-will-smith-oscars-moment-lapse-in-judgment/)

"Don't get it twisted that it was something he was proud of. It was a lapse in judgment, you know?" Smith's longtime pal and music collaborator said in a clip shared on Instagram. "I think the thing that I've realized is I don't know too many people that has had the least amount of lapse of judgment than him. I can name 50 times that he should've smacked the s*** out of somebody and he didn't. So for him to have a lapse in judgment, he's human. And I think a lot of the criticism comes from the people who don't think people like that are human."

This is true of all these Hollywood award shows--Grammys, Emmys, etc. It probably one reason their ratings are generally on a downward spiral (yes, this year's Oscars had better ratings than last year's--so they are next-to-worst.

The oscars have for many years been a big gala and often so great....last year's we were in the throws of covid mess. If I had tv in my life I may or may not watch them. I'm not up on movies as I don't get around like I did most of my life.

I hear Coda was a great movie, I would have liked to have seen it as I had a deaf mute in my family, so grew up with a deaf cousin.

Billy Crystal calls Will Smith's Oscars slap "a crime," says Chris Rock's Jada Pinkett Smith joke "was wrong" (https://www.thewrap.com/billy-crystal-slap-will-smith-oscars-crime/)

On Chris Wallace's CNN+ show, Crystal recounted watching the 94th Oscars slap. “Uh, oh. Uh-oh. And then, you know, fortunately, you know, it was a horrible thing. It’s, and it’s it’s a crime,” he said, according to The Wrap, adding that he was concerned about Smith's mental state but thought Rock handled himself well. As for the joke, Crystal said: “I just thought it, one, it wasn’t a great joke, and two, it was why, why go after her, you know, so I thought it just misplaced. And I love Chris and we’re friends and I so respect him. I just thought it was wrong.”

Will Smith should have been taken away in handcuffs the moment after he hit Chris Rock.

Agreed!

The cable networks seem to have been trying to cash in on Smith's notoriety, playing many of his movies since this incident took place.

Part of his shtick has been to appeal as a would-be hero that has to rise above some frailty to fulfill his role.

And since the incident, it's been hard for me to sympathize with his characters long enough to care if he succeeds, or not. The flavor of the moment just seems all wrong now.

Maybe this is a turning point for him? Perhaps from now on he'll be playing the role of the guys James Bond handcuffs a bomb between his legs before hiking him out a 40 story window?

I'm still waiting to hear about his tearful talk-show tour.

I'm still waiting to hear about his tearful talk-show tour.

Jada Pinkett Smith promises to discuss the Will Smith slap "when the time calls" (https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/will-smith-jada-pinkett-smith-oscars-slap-red-table-talk-premiere-1235237167/)

Red Table Talk (https://www.facebook.com/redtabletalk/) returned to Facebook Watch today for its Season 5 premiere. But rather than discuss her husband slapping Chris Rock at the Oscars, the show began with an introductory message on a black screen stating: “Considering all that has happened in the last few weeks, the Smith family has been focusing on deep healing. Some of the discoveries around our healing will be shared at the table when the time calls...Until then…The table will continue offering itself to powerful, inspiring and healing testimonies like that of our incredible impressive first guest.”

Jada Pinkett Smith's Red Table Talk Season 5 trailer makes no mention of the Will Smith slap (https://toofab.com/2022/04/19/jada-pinkett-smith-red-table-talk-returns/)

The hit Facebook Watch series (https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/jada-pinkett-smiths-red-table-talk-returns-with-explosive-new-trailer.4875286/) returns Wednesday, kicking off a season featuring Kim Basinger and her daughter Ireland Baldwin, Janelle Monáe and kids Willow, Jaden and Trey Smith taking over the Table. It remains to be seen if there will be talk about Smith's Oscar slap.

Now award shows have to tell their celebrity guests in advance not to hit someone onstage



Tony Awards Unveil New 'No Violence' Policy Ahead of 2022 Awards

Though it’s been weeks since the infamous Will Smith slap incident at the 2022 Academy Awards, the Tony Awards are doing what they can to prevent that from ever happening on their stage.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/tony-awards-unveil-no-violence-152500441.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmluZy5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAALUEdT8Gkvfh9pAdJmFH5ivGskjKMk9u1QEKEitW2PNBfxAFwhIXw6PmY_FmhxfA4G5nah9Ty2Sm7zAUzquYV1aTqNkyBFyluWj4FhYRlVVdbibAj0kTkzvjnEX-ONJvFYPszyl5-z77MgOmotzeFJDZt5wI4Q4w9ndv13PteGgY

It's still okay to sit in the audience directly in front of them and leer menacingly though, right?

It's still okay to sit in the audience directly in front of them and leer menacingly though, right?

:lol:

Anyways, I guess the point of this situation is: If you really want to put your hands on someone that bad, at least have the decency to beat their ass after the big show.

Chris Rock's mom criticizes Will Smith's Oscar punishment, says he "really slapped me" (https://www.eonline.com/news/1328364/chris-rock-s-mom-reacts-to-will-smith-slapping-her-son-at-the-oscars)

"When Will slapped Chris, he slapped all of us, but he really slapped me," Rose Rock said while visiting South Carolina station WIS-TV's Soda City Live. "Because when you hurt my child, you hurt me." She added of Smith: "You did a slap, but so many things could've happened from that. Chris could've stepped back and fallen. You really could've been taken out in handcuffs. You didn't think. You reacted to your wife giving you the side-eye and you went up and made her day because she was bowled over laughing when it happened." She also called out Smith's 10-year Oscar ban, saying: “What does that mean? You don’t even go every year.” (https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/chris-rock-mom-will-smith-oscars-ban-1235062868/)

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Chris Rock tells a Baltimore audience he had “nicks and bruises...but for the most part I’ve healed" (https://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/arts/bs-fe-chris-rock-baltimore-20220423-cjm6o7lambdkjktf2z7bo3ugxq-story.html): He also critiqued the notion that “words hurt,” saying “words only hurt if you’ve never been punched in the face.”
Will Smith spotted in India in his first appearance since the night of The Slap (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10746243/Smiling-Smith-seen-time-Oscars-slap.html)

Who cares, why do so many still feed into this event????

Who cares, why do so many still feed into this event????

The poll doesn't close until July 7th? ;)

Will Smith reportedly still hasn't personally apologized to Chris Rock for The Slap (https://pagesix.com/2022/04/25/will-smith-still-hasnt-apologized-to-chris-rock-for-oscars-slap/)

While Smith is reportedly on a "spiritual journey" in India a month after his Academy Awards slap of Rock, Page Six reports that he has yet to reach out to the comedian.

Howard Stern: Will Smith should've been treated like the Dave Chappelle attacker (https://www.mediaite.com/entertainment/howard-stern-rages-against-***ed-up-hollywood-for-not-treating-will-smith-the-same-as-dave-chappelles-attacker-they-should-all-be-ashamed/)

Reflecting on his stint on America's Got Talent, Stern said this morning of a man tackling Chappelle (https://www.primetimer.com/people/dave-chappelle) during his Netflix Is a Joke Fest performance at the Hollywood Bowl: "I always thought it’s these live shows and everything, it’s crazy because people are getting nuttier and nuttier and they’re going to use these opportunities to attack people." Stern added: “This guy jumped up on stage and attacked Dave Chappelle — as soon as that happened, did they let him go back to his seat and laugh and sit next to his wife and then give them an award? No! They took him back stage, they broke his arms and hands so bad. They f***ing beat the s*** out of him. But! At the Academy Awards everyone came over and consoled Will Smith — because it was live television and Hollywood didn’t know what to do about Will Smith."

David Letterman's comment (go to around :40) --

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxbZOyyXAxs

What's ironic is that David Letterman was there when Jerry "The King" Lawler slapped Andy Kauffman in 1982.

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Like with the Will Smith-Chris Rock incident, you would be blameless of you wondered if that earlier slap was "for real" or part of a skit.

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Will Smith's persona was meticulously curated to the public as a great dad and good husband who kept a goofy, light-hearted demeanor even during serious conversations. Then at the 2022 Oscars, the slap and Will's speech revealed a lot about the pressures of maintaining a persona as a celebrity.

Chris Rock on when he'll discuss being slapped by Will Smith: "I’ll get to it eventually, on Netflix" (https://uproxx.com/movies/chris-rock-the-slap-netflix-will-smith/)

During a performance Thursday in London, Rock said of Smith's Oscars slap, according to the Times of London (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/chris-rock-review-bracingly-funny-comedian-dishes-dirt-will-smith-london-q2l60lcln): “I’m OK, if anybody was wondering. I got most of my hearing back...People expect me to talk about the bulls***, I’m not going to talk about it right now, I’ll get to it eventually, on Netflix."

Wanda Sykes is "still traumatized" by Will Smith's Oscar slap of Chris Rock: "I can't talk about it. I get emotional" (https://people.com/movies/wanda-sykes-says-she-is-still-traumatized-by-will-smiths-oscars-slap/)

"I couldn't believe he was still sitting there, like an a**hole," the 94th Academy Awards co-host said during a standup performance in Orlando last night, according to People. "Shouldn't you be sitting there with a lawyer or LAPD, motherf***er?" Sykes added: "I hope he gets his s*** together. Until then, f*** him."

Will Smith tells David Letterman about "my pain" in a Netflix interview taped before The Slap (https://people.com/movies/will-smith-talked-about-pain-in-david-letterman-special-before-oscars-slap/)

Smith is one of six guests on Letterman's fourth season of My Next Guess Needs No Introduction, premiering today. "Life is so exciting to me right now because I can reach people differently than I've ever been able to reach people, largely because of my pain," Smith said during his interview with Letterman, taped before his infamous Oscars slap of Chris Rock. "I'm really ready to dive into my heart in a way that I think will be, hopefully, fulfilling for me and helpful for the human family."

Smith is ... on Letterman's ... My Next Guess Needs No Introduction ... . "Life is so exciting to me right now because I can reach people differently than I've ever been able to reach people, largely because of my pain," Smith said during his interview ... , taped before [the] slap ... .

I apologize for my lack of pop culture knowledge, but does anyone know what his "pain" is, or was then?

Will Smith's Netflix interview with David Letterman hits differently in wake of the actor's Oscar slap (https://www.thedailybeast.com/will-smiths-letterman-interview-hits-different-post-oscar-slap)

"David Letterman’s interview—in which Smith discusses growing up in an abusive household, playing Muhammad Ali, and more—takes on a surreal quality knowing what came next," says Matt Wilstein of Smith's My Next Guest Needs No Introduction interview. As Wilstein notes, the episode began with a disclaimer: “This episode was filmed prior to the 2022 Academy Awards ceremony.”

Jada Pinkett Smith addresses The Slap on Red Table Talk, says she hopes Will Smith and Chris Rock can "heal" (https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/tv/story/2022-06-01/jada-pinkett-smith-oscars-slap-alopecia-red-table-talk)

“Considering what I’ve been through with my own health and what happened at the Oscars, thousands have reached out to me with their stories,” Pinkett Smith said at the top of this week's episode (https://www.facebook.com/redtabletalk/videos/alopecia-the-devastating-impact/5528601813851734) of her Facebook Watch series. “I’m using this moment to give our alopecia family an opportunity to talk about what it’s like to have this condition and to inform people about what alopecia actually is." Pinkett Smith added: "Now, about Oscar night...My deepest hope is that these two intelligent, capable men have an opportunity to heal, talk this out and reconcile the state of the world today. We need them both, and we all actually need one another more than ever. Until then, Will and I are continuing to do what we have done for the last 28 years. And that’s keep figuring out this thing called life together.”

Nice words and Will and Chris need to "make up" and then run for president (Will) VP (Chris). The are not dummies. Big egos that get in the way for so many.

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Nice self-serving video of an "apology" from an insecure ego-maniac. It's late July and the slap was how many months ago? Pathetic.

It's really changed how I see his characters in his movies.

I'm not so strongly biased that I would consider a boycott. But I can no longer sympathize with his "bumbling hero" schtick.

It's really changed how I see his characters in his movies.

I'm not so strongly biased that I would consider a boycott. But I can no longer sympathize with his "bumbling hero" schtick.

It totally changed the way I see him forever. I used to love reruns of Fresh Prince and some of his movies, especially Men In Black I & II, but now I will never watch anything with him in it. He makes me sick.

There is a script gimmick that hollywood likes to use, where the hero who is going to save the day, bumps his head or suffers some other common affliction...where it warms the audience's heart to see the hero's vulnerability. sort of an "aweee" type thing.

Smith's work is rife with those planted vulnerabilities. And I can just no longer feel sympathy for him in that regard.

He bumps his head and my reaction now is "good, he had that coming" changes the whole dynamic.

It totally changed the way I see him forever. I used to love reruns of Fresh Prince and some of his movies, especially Men In Black I & II, but now I will never watch anything with him in it. He makes me sick.Hmmm you wont watch stuff he did BEFORE HE DID THIS WAWWIE?

Like if he was in something in the 80s... He hadnt done this yet,would ya watch that??

Dude, reading this and seeing how some can hold a LONG GRUDGE. Thankfully no one like that in my life.

One more reason not to watch the Oscars.