View Full Version : Cases you think that were not that much of a real mystery than UM hyped them up to be


ctgrumpybear
03-15-2022, 09:57 PM
What cases that would show on Unsolved mysteries that would made to show up to be huge mystery but you think can be easily explained

My first one would be Tony Marabella

The seizures he had play no factor on when he started to put up some good numbers for baseball. I think he just had an little hot streak than dry out very fast

The case where an woman believes she was kidnapped as a kid because on how her family acted. I just keep on thinking she was just adopted and her family was a bit crazy side

SageSlowdive
03-16-2022, 01:42 AM
Dakota's Double Death - very clear case of being s*** face drunk and tragically succumbing to the elements.

Ken Engie - Another case of being drunk off your rocker and not thinking clearly. No I do not think the friend set him up to be poisoned.

TheCars1986
03-16-2022, 02:38 PM
John Cheek

Without the eyewitness, this was a clear cut suicide, IMO. Eyewitnesses are notoriously unreliable. Granted, if there was more than one, it would lend more credence to the theory that he was still alive...but there was only the one trucker who claims to have seen and interacted with him.

Labonte18
03-17-2022, 02:58 PM
John Cheek

Without the eyewitness, this was a clear cut suicide, IMO. Eyewitnesses are notoriously unreliable. Granted, if there was more than one, it would lend more credence to the theory that he was still alive...but there was only the one trucker who claims to have seen and interacted with him.

We keep saying that around here, but if it fits someone's narrative.. An eyewitness is 1000% fact.

Even more than one, let's be honest, doesn't mean crap. I refer back again to "Lil Miss" Lisa Kimmell. She, and her car, were sighted all over the west. Both were buried on Dale Eaton's farm the whole time.

TheCars1986
03-17-2022, 06:47 PM
We keep saying that around here, but if it fits someone's narrative.. An eyewitness is 1000% fact.

Even more than one, let's be honest, doesn't mean crap. I refer back again to "Lil Miss" Lisa Kimmell. She, and her car, were sighted all over the west. Both were buried on Dale Eaton's farm the whole time.

And those witnesses probably did see her...just got their dates mixed up. Multiple people saw her in the direction in which she was headed, but they obviously got their dates mixed up.

Labonte18
03-17-2022, 07:04 PM
And those witnesses probably did see her...just got their dates mixed up. Multiple people saw her in the direction in which she was headed, but they obviously got their dates mixed up.

Some MIGHT have.. But she was driving at night.. So.. Why would they have all seen her during the days, which they all claimed to?

Or the ones who saw her in Canada, which she never was in.

Most of them I don't think were nefarious. They were just mistaken. Either about who they saw or when it was, as you mention.

Some of them.. Probably were the goobers that you hear about from time to time that think it's funny to 'prank' people.

But, they were ALL mistaken. And, you wonder how many resources were wasted in tracking down those 'leads'.

You just always have to take eyewitnesses with a grain of salt. It's POSSIBLE they're right, but it's.. Just as possible they're not.

FanfromES
03-17-2022, 08:19 PM
Arnold Archambeau and Ruby Ann Bruguier

They were ejected from the vehicle and fell into the ditch during the accident. When the water froze the bodies were trapped under ice. It wasn't until the ditch thawed that they were found.

The eyewitness...she was mistaken or maybe she just wanted her 15 minutes of fame...

Corkys-Place
03-18-2022, 02:15 AM
How about that case from 1981 with the boy that died from "Everclear" alcohol poisoning? I've had a complete brain fog and forgotten his name.

Although there was that creepy scruffy looking dude roaming around the town saying he knew things. :eek:

ghosthouse
03-18-2022, 08:14 AM
How about that case from 1981 with the boy that died from "Everclear" alcohol poisoning? I've had a complete brain fog and forgotten his name.

Although there was that creepy scruffy looking dude roaming around the town saying he knew things. :eek:

Kurt Sova? Yeah...seemed pretty likely that he died from drinking at the party. But I guess they couldn't definitely prove it was alcohol and there is something left to be desired by the people that hid his body and then left it in the field?

That case always sticks with me because I can remember watching when it first aired in 1988 and it scared the hell out of me.

Labonte18
03-18-2022, 01:19 PM
Kurt Sova? Yeah...seemed pretty likely that he died from drinking at the party. But I guess they couldn't definitely prove it was alcohol and there is something left to be desired by the people that hid his body and then left it in the field?

That case always sticks with me because I can remember watching when it first aired in 1988 and it scared the hell out of me.

I'd love to see the autopsy files on this one.. If he had only been dead 24-36 hours when he was found.. There's no way that alcohol from a party 5 days prior was still in his system.

The key here is his BAC at autopsy. How much alcohol was in his system? If there was a lot.. I think the coroner goofed the time of death.

And.. Then it becomes a question of how he got in the field. Did he drunkenly stumble out there or was he deposited there? Field was 500 yards away. That.. Seems very likely it was a drunken stumble.

It's fully possible the girl who had the party was just scared. I mean, she could have been brought up on charges for his death for providing the alcohol. She was.. Probably simply covering her butt from what would have been.. A fairly significant charge.

Article I just found says he still had alcohol in his system. I'd bet if another ME were to look at the autopsy files, they might also re-evaluate the time of death. Maybe the original ME was thrown off by the amount of alcohol.. Maybe it kinda.. "pickled" him?

But.. This case brings up another trope in many Unsolved cases.. "Found in an area that had already been searched".. And that field was searched by his family.. People not trained to search. How many times have you or I walked by our keys or cellphone and not seen them in the morning? You wind up calling your phone and tracking it down by it ringing and then feel like an idiot for missing it all that time.

While a body is a bit more obvious.. If you haven't walked a defined search pattern in a field, there's no guarantees you haven't missed something. Though.. As with Kurt's family.. There's little chance of convincing them of that fact.

MegtheEgg86
03-19-2022, 09:59 AM
It's already been mentioned but I cannot think of a better example than the Engie segment. What happened was terrible, but no matter which presented scenario actually unfolded, in none of them did Curtis Heck actually kill Kenneth Engie.

Jon
03-20-2022, 03:17 PM
Amy Bradley. All the horrible scenarios about sex slavery that have been theorized about over the years seem far-fetched

Labonte18
03-21-2022, 05:28 PM
Amy Bradley. All the horrible scenarios about sex slavery that have been theorized about over the years seem far-fetched

UM trope #3.. Anytime a pretty girl disappears, she's been sold into the sex trade.

I've always just thought Amy was drunk.. Leaned over the balcony rail to throw up and.. Over she went.

Hot Jock
03-22-2022, 02:30 AM
Amy Bradley. All the horrible scenarios about sex slavery that have been theorized about over the years seem far-fetched

That was the first case I thought of when I saw the title. These scenarios that were conjured up on there were beyond fairytale level inane.

I’ve always just thought Amy was drunk.. Leaned over the balcony rail to throw up and.. Over she went.

That is 100% what happened there. It’s so blatantly obvious to anyone without a kindergarten level imagination or an extreme bias to the contrary.

TheCars1986
03-22-2022, 07:22 AM
That is 100% what happened there. It’s so blatantly obvious to anyone without a kindergarten level imagination or an extreme bias to the contrary.

Bingo. It's always amazed me at the lengths people would go to believe the trafficking theory.

Killarney Rose
03-22-2022, 10:36 AM
ITA

Labonte18
03-22-2022, 11:18 AM
That is 100% what happened there. It’s so blatantly obvious to anyone without a kindergarten level imagination or an extreme bias to the contrary.

It's parents.. Of course they are going to have that bias. And it's hard to fault them for that.

Of course.. I subscribe to the same idea that the simple answer is usually the right answer on the Katherine Korzilius case as well. She grabbed onto the car and fell off.

But, that one you'll get far more people arguing with you about.

It still fits #3 tho... Maybe we should have a #4 that states "Anytime a child disappears, they're abducted (Or attempted to be abducted) for a child porn ring"?

ctgrumpybear
03-23-2022, 02:21 PM
I would have to say Katherine Korzilius and feel like what happen to her was nothing more than a sad tragedy

I think she fall and hit her head and like what happen to bob saget and she was walking confused from the head injury and she dies from it

sharonite
03-24-2022, 10:16 AM
Bryan Nisenfeld. A tragic case too be sure, but the evidence points more clearly to a suicidal or accidental fall than to a murder.

Still, the university’s conduct (treating Nisenfeld’s disappearance/death more as a PR issue than anything else) is inexcusable.

Hambone2421
03-24-2022, 10:38 AM
The first case that comes to mind is Amy Bradley. I know it has already been mentioned but I always figured she fell overboard She had been partying basically all night and was likely drunk. Sad case, but very easy resolution IMO.

TheCars1986
03-24-2022, 11:24 AM
Rey Rivera

Jon
03-24-2022, 12:49 PM
Rey Rivera

Out of curiosity, what do you think happened? Suicide?

TheCars1986
03-24-2022, 12:59 PM
Out of curiosity, what do you think happened? Suicide?

Yes after a mental break. I think he was re-enacting the ending to the Michael Douglas movie "The Game".

Hambone2421
03-24-2022, 01:34 PM
Yes after a mental break. I think he was re-enacting the ending to the Michael Douglas movie "The Game".

That is a great movie.