Where were the Lost Girls living during the events of The Little Chill? There are a few clues, but maybe not enough to be conclusive.

Cindy, Sue Ann, and Nancy arrive at the Core Four's house at the same time, indicating they drove there together, either carpooling or in a caravan of vehicles. It would be very weird for everyone to otherwise arrive at the same time.

Cindy is a model, indicating she might have been living in NYC, the fashion capital of the US. LA would also be a big location for modeling.

Sue Ann says that she's working as the VP of a big corporation, and that she picked up her outfit at Bergdorf's department store in NYC. This indicates that she's living in NYC, but we later find out her VP story is a lie. However, the outfit could still be from Bergdorf's. If she didn't live in NYC, it's kind of senseless to lie about it, as the area code in those days would have given her away. Then again, I suppose she could have lived in Connecticut or New Jersey, as Angela Bower on WTB didn't seem to have a problem with the daily commute.

We get very little information about Nancy, other than she planned to be a psychiatrist, and go to medical school. Not enough info, there, to figure out where she might be living.

Anything I missed? Where do you think they were living? What about Molly? Do you think she was in Hollywood, too busy fighting for environmental causes and fighting for women's rights to attend a class reunion?

We get very little information about Nancy

Nice to see the show sticking to its tried and true formula! :lol:

What about Molly? Do you think she was in Hollywood, too busy fighting for environmental causes and fighting for women's rights to attend a class reunion?

Maybe she was still living in Manhattan? Perhaps involved in causes there? But I'd imagine probably a big city somewhere for sure, where she could actively have resources and locations, etc. for causes and activism.

Nice to see the show sticking to its tried and true formula! :lol:

:brent

It's true: even though she got a reasonably sized part in TLC, the fact that we got so little info about her home life is a little disappointing.. but par for the course with Nancy, anyway.

TLC really should have been a two-parter... and if Molly had agreed to appear, maybe we would have gotten a two-part story.

Maybe she was still living in Manhattan? Perhaps involved in causes there? But I'd imagine probably a big city somewhere for sure, where she could actively have resources and locations, etc. for causes and activism.

Definitely a big city.

I read that Joan Baez lives in the San Fransisco area; if Molly wanted to be the Joan Baez of the '80s, maybe she moved there.

Of course, if she wanted to be the president of GM, maybe she would have moved to Detroit.

TLC really should have been a two-parter... and if Molly had agreed to appear, maybe we would have gotten a two-part story.

And ratings to break the system!!

And ratings to break the system!!

They definitely would have had a HUGE ratings spike, for sure!

They definitely would have had a HUGE ratings spike, for sure!

And think of all the magazine clippings!!

And think of all the magazine clippings!!

There definitely would have been a lot of press coverage. Time Magazine might have run a story: "Molly Ringwald returns to her 'worst job ever'!"

There definitely would have been a lot of press coverage. Time Magazine might have run a story: "Molly Ringwald returns to her 'worst job ever'!"

:lol:

"Golly, Molly! From Bitter to Sweet!"

:lol:

:lol:

"Golly, Molly! From Bitter to Sweet!"

:lol:

What a headline!

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

"This dump is a great show!"

What a headline!

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

"This dump is a great show!"

:lol:

My take.

Since Nancy O. is about ready to be married to Roger, I would take that that she was an undergrad and goes to a Medical School in NYC. She stayed close to Roger. Long distance romances for college students generally don't go well because one of them will find someone else to fall for.

As for Molly, she was either the same class as Tootie or a year ahead. So she would have probably have gone to some college to take up Womyn Studies (yes, my college had such a major and womyn was spelled that way). Molly transferred out of Eastland long ago and no one knows where she is since she cut off all contact with them (Life imitates art?).

My take.

Since Nancy O. is about ready to be married to Roger, I would take that that she was an undergrad and goes to a Medical School in NYC. She stayed close to Roger. Long distance romances for college students generally don't go well because one of them will find someone else to fall for.

As for Molly, she was either the same class as Tootie or a year ahead. So she would have probably have gone to some college to take up Womyn Studies (yes, my college had such a major and womyn was spelled that way). Molly transferred out of Eastland long ago and no one knows where she is since she cut off all contact with them (Life imitates art?).

Good theories! :lol:

The script for "Dope" says Roger was a townie. Do you think Roger followed Nancy to NYC, or did he stay behind in Peekskill? Would he have helped her raise the baby? Would their marriage have lasted?

I strongly suspect Molly took at least one class on Feminism. I hope she also took Guitar Tuning 101. ;)

Good theories! :lol:

The script for "Dope" says Roger was a townie. Do you think Roger followed Nancy to NYC, or did he stay behind in Peekskill? Would he have helped her raise the baby? Would their marriage have lasted?

I strongly suspect Molly took at least one class on Feminism. I hope she also took Guitar Tuning 101. ;)

I can see Molly going to one of those womyn only colleges in New England.

Peekskill isn't that far from NYC. Roger could go see Nancy on weekends.

Womyn Studies (yes, my college had such a major and womyn was spelled that way)

Hard to blame womyn when you look at the history of men.

Remember the "Politically Correct Bedtime Stories" books in the mid-'90s? Womyn, (no "men"), persun, (no "son"), etc.

I suppose it's debatable if Molly even graduated from Eastland, with her final Eastland episode being about five years before she would graduate. Then again, they mention Molly couldn't attend since she was so busy with other things. But would someone who didn't graduate from a school attend a class reunion?

I suppose it's debatable if Molly even graduated from Eastland, with her final Eastland episode being about five years before she would graduate. Then again, they mention Molly couldn't attend since she was so busy with other things. But would someone who didn't graduate from a school attend a class reunion?

I think we can say for sure that Molly left Eastland to go to another school. We didn't see her again after she was 12 and 6 years later, no one has heard from her and her mother refused to give them any specific information. If Molly had graduated from Eastland,it would be with Tootie or perhaps a year ahead of Tootie.

I think we can say for sure that Molly left Eastland to go to another school. We didn't see her again after she was 12 and 6 years later, no one has heard from her and her mother refused to give them any specific information. If Molly had graduated from Eastland,it would be with Tootie or perhaps a year ahead of Tootie.

If she had been a year ahead of Tootie, it's too bad we didn't see her instead of Annie in "Bus Stop".

We don't actually know that no one has heard from her; all we know is that she clearly wasn't a regular friend to the girls sometime after episode 2-02: it's possible they still saw her in class, but we never saw it on camera.

Of course, it's much easier to explain away not seeing a character for a year (like Sue Ann and Nancy) than it is to explain away what must have been five, six years.

Maybe her father and Angela heard her talking about what a dump Eastland was, and Dr. Parker moved her to another school... and because Mrs. Garrett, Blair, Natalie, and Tootie were in a different building, Cindy, Sue Ann, and Nancy's pleas to Dr. Parker fell on deaf ears: there just weren't enough girls to convince him to relent, and keep Molly at Eastland.

We don't actually know that no one has heard from her; all we know is that she clearly wasn't a regular friend to the girls sometime after episode 2-02: it's possible they still saw her in class, but we never saw it on camera.

Exactly. Just because a character's off screen doesn't mean they're "off show." In my faniverse, Molly stayed at Eastland and graduated.

We didn't see Cindy, Sue Ann, or the other Lost Girls for five years. But we still assume they graduated from Eastland, even though I don't think the reunion mentions them graduating (but it's been a while since I've seen it).

Exactly. Just because a character's off screen doesn't mean they're "off show." In my faniverse, Molly stayed at Eastland and graduated.

We didn't see Cindy, Sue Ann, or the other Lost Girls for five years. But we still assume they graduated from Eastland, even though I don't think the reunion mentions them graduating (but it's been a while since I've seen it).

I don't believe it mentions them graduating Eastland, either, but I've always believed they did: Nancy and Sue Ann would have only had a year left, anyway. Why transfer to a new school after you've been at Eastland for at least four?

Molly was at Eastland for at least three academic years: 1978-1979, 1979-1980, and 1980-1981. So maybe she stayed on, and we just never saw her on camera. It's possible.

Molly was at Eastland for at least three academic years: 1978-1979, 1979-1980, and 1980-1981. So maybe she stayed on, and we just never saw her on camera. It's possible.

In fact, as much as that show dug its claws into that cafeteria set and held one for dear life, it's quite probable. :lol:

I don't believe it mentions them graduating Eastland, either, but I've always believed they did: Nancy and Sue Ann would have only had a year left, anyway. Why transfer to a new school after you've been at Eastland for at least four?

Molly was at Eastland for at least three academic years: 1978-1979, 1979-1980, and 1980-1981. So maybe she stayed on, and we just never saw her on camera. It's possible.

Just the fact that the other girls had no idea where she was in "The Little Chill" indicates Molly was long gone. She would have graduated from Eastland just a few months ago had she stayed and at least one of the girls would have known where she was. I wonder if in real life if any of the girls tried to contact Molly and Adelle Ringwald (the mother, not the daughter who obviously was not around then) told them that she "was busy" and they wrote that part into the script.

Ostensibly Molly is 1 year older than Tootie, if we theorize that Molly was 13 when her hormones were triggered in spring 1980. But even if she were 12, Tootie was 12 from 1979 to 1981 (!!), so Molly was still apparently a year older than her?

And it's not that her mom refused to say what Molly was busy with when Tootie called her. Tootie didn't say "She wouldn't say," she said "She didn't say." It just sounds like Mrs. Parker politely made the conversation brief. Or maybe Mrs. Parker could have had her hands full on her end of the line and needed to get off the phone. Who knows?

They graduated offscreen, it's simple :lol:

They were probably living in New York

it's not that her mom refused to say what Molly was busy with when Tootie called her. Tootie didn't say "She wouldn't say," she said "She didn't say." It just sounds like Mrs. Parker politely made the conversation brief.

"It's that Tootie girl again. Wonder if that girl is still on rollerskates?" :lol:

They graduated offscreen, it's simple :lol:

They were probably living in New York

New York seems like the easiest option: no mention of flights, for example, and the honking of a car horn.

"It's that Tootie girl again. Wonder if that girl is still on rollerskates?" :lol:

:lol:

Just the fact that the other girls had no idea where she was in "The Little Chill" indicates Molly was long gone. She would have graduated from Eastland just a few months ago had she stayed and at least one of the girls would have known where she was. I wonder if in real life if any of the girls tried to contact Molly and Adelle Ringwald (the mother, not the daughter who obviously was not around then) told them that she "was busy" and they wrote that part into the script.

It IS odd that they script it so that Tootie was talking to Molly's mom. Why not have her mention talking directly to Molly? Because of how it's written, like you, I wonder if they could only reach her mother, so they wrote that into the script.

New York seems like the easiest option: no mention of flights, for example, and the honking of a car horn.

Yeah. Cindy probably worked for a fashion house in New York, Sue Ann for an undefined company and Nancy as a psychiatrist

Yeah. Cindy probably worked for a fashion house in New York, Sue Ann for an undefined company and Nancy as a psychiatrist

Well, Nancy hadn't been to medical school, yet. She said she wouldn't have a practice until she was in her 30s.

I wonder if Sue Ann wasn't working for Coca-Cola, the corporation behind Embassy Television at the time. But their HQ is in Atlanta, and Sue Ann makes no references to coming up from the south.

Well, Nancy hadn't been to medical school, yet. She said she wouldn't have a practice until she was in her 30s.

First she has to get the professors to even notice she's in their classes!

First she has to get the professors to even notice she's in their classes!

:lol:

womyn along with blak doesn't make you look radical, just dyslexic

I've never heard of "blak," but "womyn" and "persun" make sense to take the masculine hold out of the spelling of those words.

In the Season 8 episode "The Little Chill," the "Lost Girls" return to Peekskill for a reunion, and while their exact home addresses aren't explicitly stated on a map, the episode provides several specific clues about where they landed:

Sue Ann Weaver: She claims to be a high-powered VP for a major corporation in New York City. As you noted, her suit from Bergdorf Goodman and her proximity to the city's corporate elite are her primary status symbols—until she confesses she’s actually a struggling secretary.

Cindy Webster: Now a top fashion model going by the name Cindy Baker, she is likely based in New York City, which fits her career's demands and her arrival with the other girls.

Nancy Olson: While her professional life as a prospective psychiatrist and medical student is vague on location, she is engaged to her longtime boyfriend, Roger, and is revealed to be three months pregnant. Her arrival with Cindy and Sue Ann strongly suggests they are all living in the Tri-State area (NY, NJ, or CT).

Molly Parker: She is mentioned but notably absent. The show briefly flashes a clip of her from 1979. In the world of the show, she likely stayed in a metropolitan hub like New York or Washington D.C. given her established passion for social activism and women's rights in Season 1. Behind the scenes, Molly Ringwald was too busy with her burgeoning Hollywood film career to attend.

The most telling clue is their simultaneous arrival at Over Our Heads. In the 1980s, carpooling from the city to Peekskill would take about an hour, making a shared trip from Manhattan the most logical explanation for their synchronized entrance.

Also, by having the original girls act like Jo Polniaczek was a total stranger in "The Little Chill," the writers effectively asked the audience to forget an entire year of television.

The logic falls apart when you look at the Season 2 timeline:

The Shared Dorm Life: In early Season 2, the "Lost Girls" (Nancy, Sue Ann, and Cindy) were still very much part of the cast. In some episodes, they are all living in the dorms with Jo. They shared meals, attended classes, and navigated Mrs. Garrett’s rules together.

The "New Girl" Transition: When Jo arrived in "The New Girl", she didn't just meet the "Core Four"—she met the entire student body. To suggest they spent months living in the same hallway and then "forgot" her existence by the reunion is a massive stretch, even for a show that loved its campy kitsch.

Production vs. Narrative: Behind the scenes, the writers were treating "The Little Chill" as a tribute to Season 1 only. They wanted to highlight the contrast between the "Original Girls" and the "Core Four," so they prioritized a clean narrative split over the actual historical overlap of the 1980-1981 season.

It’s especially ironic considering your earlier point about Jo knowing who Willis was in "Bought and Sold"—the writers gave her a memory of someone she never met, but took away her memory of the girls she actually lived with

In the Season 8 episode "The Little Chill," the "Lost Girls" return to Peekskill for a reunion, and while their exact home addresses aren't explicitly stated on a map, the episode provides several specific clues about where they landed:

Sue Ann Weaver: She claims to be a high-powered VP for a major corporation in New York City. As you noted, her suit from Bergdorf Goodman and her proximity to the city's corporate elite are her primary status symbols—until she confesses she’s actually a struggling secretary.

Cindy Webster: Now a top fashion model going by the name Cindy Baker, she is likely based in New York City, which fits her career's demands and her arrival with the other girls.

Nancy Olson: While her professional life as a prospective psychiatrist and medical student is vague on location, she is engaged to her longtime boyfriend, Roger, and is revealed to be three months pregnant. Her arrival with Cindy and Sue Ann strongly suggests they are all living in the Tri-State area (NY, NJ, or CT).

Molly Parker: She is mentioned but notably absent. The show briefly flashes a clip of her from 1979. In the world of the show, she likely stayed in a metropolitan hub like New York or Washington D.C. given her established passion for social activism and women's rights in Season 1. Behind the scenes, Molly Ringwald was too busy with her burgeoning Hollywood film career to attend.

The most telling clue is their simultaneous arrival at Over Our Heads. In the 1980s, carpooling from the city to Peekskill would take about an hour, making a shared trip from Manhattan the most logical explanation for their synchronized entrance.

Also, by having the original girls act like Jo Polniaczek was a total stranger in "The Little Chill," the writers effectively asked the audience to forget an entire year of television.

The logic falls apart when you look at the Season 2 timeline:

The Shared Dorm Life: In early Season 2, the "Lost Girls" (Nancy, Sue Ann, and Cindy) were still very much part of the cast. In some episodes, they are all living in the dorms with Jo. They shared meals, attended classes, and navigated Mrs. Garrett’s rules together.

The "New Girl" Transition: When Jo arrived in "The New Girl", she didn't just meet the "Core Four"—she met the entire student body. To suggest they spent months living in the same hallway and then "forgot" her existence by the reunion is a massive stretch, even for a show that loved its campy kitsch.

Production vs. Narrative: Behind the scenes, the writers were treating "The Little Chill" as a tribute to Season 1 only. They wanted to highlight the contrast between the "Original Girls" and the "Core Four," so they prioritized a clean narrative split over the actual historical overlap of the 1980-1981 season.

It’s especially ironic considering your earlier point about Jo knowing who Willis was in "Bought and Sold"—the writers gave her a memory of someone she never met, but took away her memory of the girls she actually lived with

Molly Ringwald didn't want anything to do with the Facts of Life at this time. The Little Chill episode also wasn't long after Molly said that her appearance on the 2nd Season was her "worse job" and that she was humiliated. There is also a rumor that the guy who once told her she had no future in the acting industry was the one who called her agents (her parents?) asking her to return.

As for the part where Molly's mother said she was busy after one of the girls called her, that may have been an art imitate life thing. Molly Ringwald probably cut off all contact with all the girls and Charlotte. Molly's closest friend on the show was Julie Anne Haddock. The two girls were still in contact with one another right up through at least through Molly's John Hughes movies era.

I've never heard of "blak," but "womyn" and "persun" make sense to take the masculine hold out of the spelling of those words.

I'm not bigoted, i just enjoy tormenting extremist Knight Templars. and the "son" in person has nothing to do with men.