Arnold makes a guest appearence in the season 2 premiere episode but after he tells Mrs. Garrett that the girls are in trouble, he literally disappeared from the show (for good). What happened to him? :lol:

Arnold makes a guest appearence in the season 2 premiere episode but after he tells Mrs. Garrett that the girls are in trouble, he literally disappeared from the show (for good). What happened to him? :lol:

Guess he and Willis went back home after visiting Kimberly.

Arnold makes a guest appearence in the season 2 premiere episode but after he tells Mrs. Garrett that the girls are in trouble, he literally disappeared from the show (for good). What happened to him? :lol:

That's a very good question! It seemed Mrs. G had brought him up to Eastland from Manhattan for an overnight visit and he'd agreed to go- in no small part to spend time with Tootie whom he was crushing on. But then, after Tootie and the others blew him off, he tattled on them to Mrs. G. their intended destination of that Peekskill bar- and that was the last he was seen on the show. From that point on Mrs. G. gave chase to try to stop them from getting into [worse] trouble but ARNOLD's whereabouts went completely unaddressed! It seems she'd left him in the dorm to his own devises[?!] when taking after The Four and, by the time, Mrs. G. had contacted the school, their parents AND somehow managed to bail them out of jail[!] to bring them back to the dorm, Arnold had been long gone- never to be seen or heard from again on FOL. I suppose that as soon as she got herself out of the bar, Mrs. G. called Mr. Drummond and had him pick up Arnold ASAP so she could make all those other calls not having to deal having him underfoot but that was never spelled out. Oddly enough, Willis would make an appearance later that season when Blair got Natalie to be her warpaint model before the CEO played by Zsa Zsa Gabor made her appearance, but Arnold was nowhere in sight.

Guess he and Willis went back home after visiting Kimberly.

It can't be that because funnily enough, Arnold wasn't there to visit Kimberly. Mrs. Garrett says he came to spend the weekend with her (Mrs. Garrett). And since it was the weekend, Kimberly was back home on Park Avenue.

Mrs. Garrett told him to watch TV, something uplifting for good, so maybe he just stayed in front of the TV in Mrs. Garrett's room the rest of the weekend. :lol:

That is funny though that he's not in part 2 at all. I always forget about that because I'm so invested in our girls. :bighug:

That's a very good question! It seemed Mrs. G had brought him up to Eastland from Manhattan for an overnight visit and he'd agreed to go

Arnold went to Eastland himself to stay with Mrs. Garrett, for the whole weekend. She made it sound like it was either a surprise visit or just orchestrated by Arnold himself.


I suppose that as soon as she got herself out of the bar, Mrs. G. called Mr. Drummond and had him pick up Arnold ASAP so she could make all those other calls not having to deal having him underfoot but that was never spelled out.

She told him to watch TV, something good, so maybe he just stayed planted in front of her TV until it was time for him to leave. :lol:


Oddly enough, Willis would make an appearance later that season when Blair got Natalie to be her warpaint model before the CEO played by Zsa Zsa Gabor made her appearance, but Arnold was nowhere in sight.

I think that makes sense though because Willis was just helping to briefly deliver the supplies.

Arnold went to Eastland himself to stay with Mrs. Garrett, for the whole weekend. She made it sound like it was either a surprise visit or just orchestrated by Arnold himself.




She told him to watch TV, something good, so maybe he just stayed planted in front of her TV until it was time for him to leave. :lol:



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Do you really think that Arnold who couldn't go five minutes at his Park Avenue house without getting into some kind of mischief(or breaking something) would have 'just stayed planted in front of her TV' without attempting to do more of the same while completely unsupervised for what may have been hours before he left/got sent back?!:lol:

Do you really think that Arnold who couldn't go five minutes at his Park Avenue house without getting into some kind of mischief(or breaking something) would have 'just stayed planted in front of her TV' without attempting to do more of the same while completely unsupervised for what may have been hours before he left/got sent back?!:lol:

If he found something interesting enough to watch! :lol:

It can't be that because funnily enough, Arnold wasn't there to visit Kimberly. Mrs. Garrett says he came to spend the weekend with her (Mrs. Garrett). And since it was the weekend, Kimberly was back home on Park Avenue.

Mrs. Garrett told him to watch TV, something uplifting for good, so maybe he just stayed in front of the TV in Mrs. Garrett's room the rest of the weekend. :lol:


Weird, indeed! Are we supposed to believe that Arnold simply remained in her bedroom for the rest of the weekend? That's just not like Arnold!

I checked TNG pt 2 script, and there's no mention of Arnold, either, so it's not like a mention of him ended up on the cutting room floor.

Weird, indeed! Are we supposed to believe that Arnold simply remained in her bedroom for the rest of the weekend? That's just not like Arnold!

I checked TNG pt 2 script, and there's no mention of Arnold, either, so it's not like a mention of him ended up on the cutting room floor.

That is a really weird hole! I guess fan fiction-wise, PracTz was on the most logical path about Mrs. Garrett entrusting him to someone else once "the beer hit the fan". :lol: Perhaps she had Miss Mahoney watch him until Mr. Drummonc could "send the limo to visit Arnold" and bring him back. :lol:

That is a really weird hole! I guess fan fiction-wise, PracTz was on the most logical path about Mrs. Garrett entrusting him to someone else once "the beer hit the fan". :lol: Perhaps she had Miss Mahoney watch him until Mr. Drummonc could "send the limo to visit Arnold" and bring him back. :lol:

Miss Mahoney or Howard the Cook or Mr. Harris, the new headmaster.

Miss Mahoney or Howard the Cook or Mr. Harris, the new headmaster.

Well, thank you Retro and 80's Sitcoms for the kudos!

Yes, I think it would have worked better had Mrs. G. had Miss Mahoney (the librarian), Howard the Cook or Mr. Harris watching Arnold until her return and THEN have called Mr. Drummond to pick him up.

And, yeah, if the writers had it that Arnold was up there visiting Mrs. G. for THE WHOLE WEEKEND, then how tough would it have been for them to have dropped two lines explaining what had become of him:

Tootie: Mrs. Garrett, what happened to Arnold?

Mrs. Garrett: As soon as I could, I called Mr. Drummond and told him there's a campus emergency which Arnold didn't need to be ANY part of so he agreed to pick him up ASAP! And you're still in TRUH-BULL, Tootie!

Well, thank you Retro and 80's Sitcoms for the kudos!

Yes, I think it would have worked better had Mrs. G. had Miss Mahoney (the librarian), Howard the Cook or Mr. Harris watching Arnold until her return and THEN have called Mr. Drummond to pick him up.

Miss Mahoney was the teacher; Miss Muldoon was the librarian. (The name similarities are confusing!)


And, yeah, if the writers had it that Arnold was up there visiting Mrs. G. for THE WHOLE WEEKEND, then how tough would it have been for them to have dropped two lines explaining what had become of him:

Tootie: Mrs. Garrett, what happened to Arnold?

Mrs. Garrett: As soon as I could, I called Mr. Drummond and told him there's a campus emergency which Arnold didn't need to be ANY part of so he agreed to pick him up ASAP! And you're still in TRUH-BULL, Tootie!

That would have been a GREAT addition to the script, PracTz!

I wonder if Gary didn't wonder why Arnold vanished.

Miss Mahoney was the teacher; Miss Muldoon was the librarian. (The name similarities are confusing!)



That would have been a GREAT addition to the script, PracTz!

I wonder if Gary didn't wonder why Arnold vanished.

Thanks!

Good question about whether or not the late Mr. Coleman might have wondered why Arnold vanished without explanation. It may have been that things were starting to get tense on DS that he was too relieved to be visiting Miss Rae on her set to want to rock the boat by asking any script questions. Or he may have already gotten so overworked against his will in spite of his steadily declining health that he didn't have the energy to notice.

I can imagine that the nice, quiet peaceful weekend Mr. Drummond, Kimberly, Willis and Adelaide had anticipated came to an abrupt end via Arnold's early return with some or all of them annoyed that it wasn't due to anything Arnold himself had pulled!

BTW, I get that this was supposed to have been Orientation Weekend for the new schoolyear at Eastland which meant that the students were supposed to spend that time getting orientated, acquainted and/or reunited then start classes on the following Monday.

However, where was Mrs. G. supposed to have been living during the summer that had just ended? Did she return to the dorm just a few hours before the students did or had she been living there solo the entire time? In the latter scenario's case, why didn't Arnold spend a weekend with her in the otherwise empty dorm in the SUMMER?

Thanks!

Good question about whether or not the late Mr. Coleman might have wondered why Arnold vanished without explanation. It may have been that things were starting to get tense on DS that he was too relieved to be visiting Miss Rae on her set to want to rock the boat by asking any script questions. Or he may have already gotten so overworked against his will in spite of his steadily declining health that he didn't have the energy to notice.

I thought I read that Gary really enjoyed the first few seasons, and it wasn't until about season 4 of DS (thus Season 3 of FOL) that his health declined, and he was tired of doing the show.


I can imagine that the nice, quiet peaceful weekend Mr. Drummond, Kimberly, Willis and Adelaide had anticipated came to an abrupt end via Arnold's early return with some or all of them annoyed that it wasn't due to anything Arnold himself had pulled!

:lol::lol::lol::lol:


BTW, I get that this was supposed to have been Orientation Weekend for the new schoolyear at Eastland which meant that the students were supposed to spend that time getting orientated, acquainted and/or reunited then start classes on the following Monday.

However, where was Mrs. G. supposed to have been living during the summer that had just ended? Did she return to the dorm just a few hours before the students did or had she been living there solo the entire time? In the latter scenario's case, why didn't Arnold spend a weekend with her in the otherwise empty dorm in the SUMMER?

Well, the dorm wasn't really empty... at least for part of the summer. "Molly's Holiday" and "Dope" aired in June 1980, after most schools are already on summer break. And because of the SAG/AFTRA actors' strike, Season 2 did not debut until November, meaning the school year at Eastland that year was crazy: classes weren't over until at least June, and did not start up again until November. :lol:

So, it would have made sense for Arnold to visit over the Eastland "summer", but when was that? The girls were still in the dorms in June, but didn't come back until November.

Well, the dorm wasn't really empty... at least for part of the summer. "Molly's Holiday" and "Dope" aired in June 1980, after most schools are already on summer break. And because of the SAG/AFTRA actors' strike, Season 2 did not debut until November, meaning the school year at Eastland that year was crazy: classes weren't over until at least June, and did not start up again until November. :lol:

So, it would have made sense for Arnold to visit over the Eastland "summer", but when was that? The girls were still in the dorms in June, but didn't come back until November.


Well, between the show's schedule and actual school holidays, that still would have left July and August as 'summer' in which the dorm would have been indisputably empty of students! As I said before, I don't recall anything about where Mrs. G. herself had been living during the summer break (be it from late May- to early September OR late June to November) . However IF Mrs. G. HAD been living there the entire time, then it would have made more sense for Arnold to have visited then instead of Orientation Weekend when the dorm was packed with girls and he'd have had to have bunked with Mrs. G.

Yeah, I know I'm being bogus to try to pretend that this show had even the vaguest resemblance to logic much less the . ..real world. :lol:

Well, between the show's schedule and actual school holidays, that still would have left July and August as 'summer' in which the dorm would have been indisputably empty of students! As I said before, I don't recall anything about where Mrs. G. herself had been living during the summer break (be it from late May- to early September OR late June to November) . However IF Mrs. G. HAD been living there the entire time, then it would have made more sense for Arnold to have visited then instead of Orientation Weekend when the dorm was packed with girls and he'd have had to have bunked with Mrs. G.

I don't know where Mrs. G was over the summer, either. Maybe she spent some time at a weight loss place, or maybe she spent the summer planning the fall/winter dining menu, and arranging the kitchen in preparation for healthy meals, when she wasn't designing the dorm roommate schematic.

It would have made more sense for Arnold to visit over the summer months, but then we wouldn't have seen him. So, instead, he visits during a crazy time, when all the girls are coming back to the dorms. Yes, not much logic there.


Yeah, I know I'm being bogus to try to pretend that this show had even the vaguest resemblance to logic much less the . ..real world. :lol:

Oh, it's only understandable to pick apart these plot details; we've been doing it for years, here: Why does Mr. Bradley's office double as the gym, and triple as the Tiny Cafeteria? Why does Beverly Ann adopt Andy when just a couple months earlier he had parents and a grandmother? Why is Tootie obsessed with Jermaine Jackson? Why are Miko, Kelly, and Roy all obsessed with Jo? :lol:

That's a very good question! It seemed Mrs. G had brought him up to Eastland from Manhattan for an overnight visit and he'd agreed to go- in no small part to spend time with Tootie whom he was crushing on. But then, after Tootie and the others blew him off, he tattled on them to Mrs. G. their intended destination of that Peekskill bar- and that was the last he was seen on the show. From that point on Mrs. G. gave chase to try to stop them from getting into [worse] trouble but ARNOLD's whereabouts went completely unaddressed! It seems she'd left him in the dorm to his own devises[?!] when taking after The Four and, by the time, Mrs. G. had contacted the school, their parents AND somehow managed to bail them out of jail[!] to bring them back to the dorm, Arnold had been long gone- never to be seen or heard from again on FOL. I suppose that as soon as she got herself out of the bar, Mrs. G. called Mr. Drummond and had him pick up Arnold ASAP so she could make all those other calls not having to deal having him underfoot but that was never spelled out. Oddly enough, Willis would make an appearance later that season when Blair got Natalie to be her warpaint model before the CEO played by Zsa Zsa Gabor made her appearance, but Arnold was nowhere in sight.

I think this is the most logical explanation. Mrs. Garrett was too busy with the girls and their parents so she didn't have time for Arnold.

Weird, indeed! Are we supposed to believe that Arnold simply remained in her bedroom for the rest of the weekend? That's just not like Arnold!

I checked TNG pt 2 script, and there's no mention of Arnold, either, so it's not like a mention of him ended up on the cutting room floor.

It could be. After Mrs. Garrett showed the girls their new living arrangements, the scene shifted to the cafeteria on a normal school day, after the weekend. Arnold could have left Eastland off-screen

That is a really weird hole! I guess fan fiction-wise, PracTz was on the most logical path about Mrs. Garrett entrusting him to someone else once "the beer hit the fan". :lol: Perhaps she had Miss Mahoney watch him until Mr. Drummonc could "send the limo to visit Arnold" and bring him back. :lol:

"Watch tv, watch something happy" :lol:

Thanks!

Good question about whether or not the late Mr. Coleman might have wondered why Arnold vanished without explanation. It may have been that things were starting to get tense on DS that he was too relieved to be visiting Miss Rae on her set to want to rock the boat by asking any script questions. Or he may have already gotten so overworked against his will in spite of his steadily declining health that he didn't have the energy to notice.

Todd Bridges says that problems on the set started during season 3 of Strokes. I guess Gary didn't care of the script, he was too tired of the show's schedule that probably his only wish was to complete his duties and move on to other things. I think it was sweet that Arnold visited Mrs. Garrett, she was like a mother to him. Too bad that they stopped doing crossovers with each other after 1981


However, where was Mrs. G. supposed to have been living during the summer that had just ended? Did she return to the dorm just a few hours before the students did or had she been living there solo the entire time? In the latter scenario's case, why didn't Arnold spend a weekend with her in the otherwise empty dorm in the SUMMER?


Maybe she returned to her farm in Wisconsin or she simply rented an apartment for the summer

It could be. After Mrs. Garrett showed the girls their new living arrangements, the scene shifted to the cafeteria on a normal school day, after the weekend. Arnold could have left Eastland off-screen



Yeah, the script says it was a few days later. Still, it's odd that Arnold left with no mention of him, and even the script forgot about him.

Yeah, the script says it was a few days later. Still, it's odd that Arnold left with no mention of him, and even the script forgot about him.

He was sent to the basement :lol:

He was sent to the basement :lol:

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Hope he didn't get into Blair's champagne! :lol:

I always get the feeling Mrs. Garrett lived in the bedroom over the kitchen during the summer. Before Eastland, her home was in the Drummond penthouse. So I assume she just moved all of her belongings from the dorm to the over-kitchen bedroom (assuming her school position was changed shortly after the Eastland year ended). And that she was enjoying a nice, quiet summer in the cafeteria until "the beer hit the fan."

And Arnold possibly visited Mrs. Garrett earlier in the summer too since this was their first year apart from each other after DS1.1.

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Hope he didn't get into Blair's champagne! :lol:

It's wine, you heathen!

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Hope he didn't get into Blair's champagne! :lol:

:lol::lol:

I always get the feeling Mrs. Garrett lived in the bedroom over the kitchen during the summer. Before Eastland, her home was in the Drummond penthouse. So I assume she just moved all of her belongings from the dorm to the over-kitchen bedroom (assuming her school position was changed shortly after the Eastland year ended). And that she was enjoying a nice, quiet summer in the cafeteria until "the beer hit the fan."

And Arnold possibly visited Mrs. Garrett earlier in the summer too since this was their first year apart from each other after DS1.1.


Hey Eighty, what do you mean with DS 1.1? Season 1 episode 1?

Mr. Garrett said he lived with Edna in their apartment near Central Park. I don't recall if they said the house had been sold when they got divorced. Maybe Mrs. Garrett kept the house and went back there for the summer after she started to work at Eastland

Hey Eighty, what do you mean with DS 1.1? Season 1 episode 1?

Correct, mio amico! :wave: You have earned your Molly Parker detective hat! :lol:


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Mr. Garrett said he lived with Edna in their apartment near Central Park. I don't recall if they said the house had been sold when they got divorced. Maybe Mrs. Garrett kept the house and went back there for the summer after she started to work at Eastland

I believe that once she left Robert, she was pretty frugal with money since she didn't have much. Indeed, just a few years into Eastland her financial security was so low she couldn't survive on just one job. :( (becoming more common today, sadly)

I don't know that either one of them would have kept the Central Park apartment. But it is an interesting question...:lookaroun

I always get the feeling Mrs. Garrett lived in the bedroom over the kitchen during the summer. Before Eastland, her home was in the Drummond penthouse. So I assume she just moved all of her belongings from the dorm to the over-kitchen bedroom (assuming her school position was changed shortly after the Eastland year ended). And that she was enjoying a nice, quiet summer in the cafeteria until "the beer hit the fan."

"Beer hit the fan" is a hilarious turn of phrase! But shouldn't it be "beer hit the van"? :lol:

Actually, like you, I always imagined Mrs. G moved her stuff over from the dorm over to the rooms above the cafeteria. (I also wonder why she didn't spread out more. She had that nice room across the hall from her that could have been a fantastic living space. It was supposed to be a storeroom, but it had a beautiful window overlooking some trees).


And Arnold possibly visited Mrs. Garrett earlier in the summer too since this was their first year apart from each other after DS1.1.

Maybe even Willis and Kimberly, as well, since there was so much empty space over the break.

It's wine, you heathen!
:brent

"Beer hit the fan" is a hilarious turn of phrase! But shouldn't be "beer hit the van"? :lol:

Ha! :lol:


Actually, like you, I always imagined Mrs. G moved her stuff over from the dorm over to the rooms above the cafeteria. (I also wonder why she didn't spread out more. She had that nice room across the hall from her that could have been a fantastic living space. It was supposed to be a storeroom, but it had a beautiful window overlooking some trees).

"Nice"? "Nice"? You call a room all cluttered with junk "nice"? No, I know what you mean, lol, you're looking at its potential. But Mrs. Garrett is so low maintenance. Maybe she just didn't think she needed anything more than her cozy, homey bedroom. Maybe when she opened the door across the hall and looked in, she thought, "Oh, deeaaarrrr" and just closed it again. :lol: Or maybe she thought she "might do something with it someday," but I figure she probably was just fine to let all the junk and mops and stuff stay shut up in there, lol.

:brent

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Ha! :lol:

"Nice"? "Nice"? You call a room all cluttered with junk "nice"? No, I know what you mean, lol, you're looking at its potential. But Mrs. Garrett is so low maintenance. Maybe she just didn't think she needed anything more than her cozy, homey bedroom. Maybe when she opened the door across the hall and looked in, she thought, "Oh, deeaaarrrr" and just closed it again. :lol: Or maybe she thought she "might do something with it someday," but I figure she probably was just fine to let all the junk and mops and stuff stay shut up in there, lol.

You're probably right: she opened the door, took one look, and said "Oh, deeaaarrrr" and just closed it again! But I suspect the housekeeper in her promised herself to tackle it sooner or later. It does seem as though she stored some things from the dorm over there, since Blair's painting ended up in the room.

You're probably right: she opened the door, took one look, and said "Oh, deeaaarrrr" and just closed it again! But I suspect the housekeeper in her promised herself to tackle it sooner or later. It does seem as though she stored some things from the dorm over there, since Blair's painting ended up in the room.

Hmmmm, that is odd about Blair's painting. You'd think Blair would have beeni insulted to find a work of art by her stashed away in a junky closet! :lol:

OR

Maybe Blair asked someone to find a place to store it, if she felt like she didn't have room for it anymore, or felt that she had progressed as an artist? Maybe she asked Steve, and when he made a kitchen delivery, he went upstairs and chucked it in the closet. :lol:

And yes, I too had the same thought that housekeeper in Mrs. Garrett. That was what I was thinking of with my thought of maybe she thought maybe she'd get to that someday. But her professional world had been turned upside down (yet again, lol), and what with nesting her own room and learning the dietician world at Eastland, I'm sure her "plate was full," if you will!

Oh, it's only understandable to pick apart these plot details; we've been doing it for years, here:

Yes, but here, it's safe to do so. We're definitely a niche group (among many, many niche groups in the world). I "picked apart" an extremely illogical line in another show on social media (not a show "on" social media---I mean I did this action on social media about another show :lol:) and first I was told, "You take the show literally. Nothing in sitcom world lasts past the punchline." (a gross mischaracterization)

And then I was told by another person, "My God, it's a sitcom. Logic and reality can go out the window."

But they don't have to go out the window. They shouldn't go out the window (as much as you can make it work). But I wasn't about to argue with people taking that kind of road.

Yes, we here think it's understandable to "pick apart so," but be careful where you do it outside of your sitcom communities, lol.

:lookaroun

Hmmmm, that is odd about Blair's painting. You'd think Blair would have beeni insulted to find a work of art by her stashed away in a junky closet! :lol:

OR

Maybe Blair asked someone to find a place to store it, if she felt like she didn't have room for it anymore, or felt that she had progressed as an artist? Maybe she asked Steve, and when he made a kitchen delivery, he went upstairs and chucked it in the closet. :lol:

Pretty nice fan theory, but let's see what everyone else thinks. :lol:

I do believe Blair might have moved on as an artist.


And yes, I too had the same thought that housekeeper in Mrs. Garrett. That was what I was thinking of with my thought of maybe she thought maybe she'd get to that someday. But her professional world had been turned upside down (yet again, lol), and what with nesting her own room and learning the dietician world at Eastland, I'm sure her "plate was full," if you will!

Yeah, not only was she learning the dietician job, she had to move all of her stuff over to the cafeteria (including those cat pillows!), plan the menus, visit the Drummonds/prep for Drummond visits, and create a roommate schedule for the dorms. She might have been involved in the hiring of Howard, and don't tell me things weren't a little chaotic with Mr. Bradley leaving.

I do hope she got a little bit of "me time" to relax and enjoy part of the summer. Maybe her sons came for a visit.

Yes, but here, it's safe to do so. We're definitely a niche group (among many, many niche groups in the world). I "picked apart" an extremely illogical line in another show on social media (not a show "on" social media---I mean I did this action on social media about another show :lol:) and first I was told, "You take the show literally. Nothing in sitcom world lasts past the punchline." (a gross mischaracterization)

And then I was told by another person, "My God, it's a sitcom. Logic and reality can go out the window."

Well, that's not very fun! That just ends the discussion before there's a chance to come up with theories.


But they don't have to go out the window. They shouldn't go out the window (as much as you can make it work). But I wasn't about to argue with people taking that kind of road.

Yes, we here think it's understandable to "pick apart so," but be careful where you do it outside of your sitcom communities, lol.

:lookaroun

I have LOVED these kinds of discussions for just these reasons. Every time I watch, I find something new, often in support or detriment to various fan theories, sometimes even in episodes written years apart from one another.

And that she was enjoying a nice, quiet summer in the cafeteria until "the beer hit the fan."

:confused: How did she get the beer?

:confused: How did she get the beer?

She got the beer. :lol::lol::lol::lol:

She got the beer. :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Maybe she got it from ARNOLD!:lol:

Correct, mio amico! :wave: You have earned your Molly Parker detective hat! :lol:



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Ahaha, thanks Mol. An anti-woman hat :lol:

I believe that once she left Robert, she was pretty frugal with money since she didn't have much. Indeed, just a few years into Eastland her financial security was so low she couldn't survive on just one job. :( (becoming more common today, sadly)

I don't know that either one of them would have kept the Central Park apartment. But it is an interesting question...:lookaroun

Poor Mrs. Garrett, that's why she keeps changing job every year :lol:

Maybe she got it from ARNOLD!:lol:

:lol::lol:

:confused: How did she get the beer?

Mrs. Garrett didn't get it. Tootie did--at the Chug-a-Lug! :lol: That's the "beer that hit the van" lol.

It seems like Kimberly stopped going to Eastland by RH, there was no mention of her going there anymore.

It seems like Kimberly stopped going to Eastland by RH, there was no mention of her going there anymore.

No, she is definitely still attending Eastland in March 1980, when "The Slumber Party" airs.

The first episode to mention Kimberly attending public school is likely "In the Swim", episode 5-02, from October 1982.

Yeah, Kimberly was definitely attending Eastland for a few years since DS started.

However, due to Kimberly NEVER actually physically being seen in the cafeteria much less any of the dorms, it appears by the time of FOL she had become a day student who somehow commuted back and forth from Manhattan every morning and afternoon.

No, she is definitely still attending Eastland in March 1980, when "The Slumber Party" airs.

The first episode to mention Kimberly attending public school is likely "In the Swim", episode 5-02, from October 1982.

That's right I forgot. Obviously sometime after that she left so probably after S1.

However, due to Kimberly NEVER actually physically being seen in the cafeteria much less any of the dorms, it appears by the time of FOL she had become a day student who somehow commuted back and forth from Manhattan every morning and afternoon.

But Kimberly was in the dorm in "Rough Housing". Mrs. Garrett even embraces Willis, Arnold, and Mr. Drummond, but not Kimberly, indicating that she's been seeing Kimberly on a regular basis. Kimberly says, "Mrs. Garrett, look who's here!" rather than "We're here!"

I suspect Kimberly was still a dorm student in Season 1. After that, I do believe, as you say, that she became a day student at Eastland.

But Kimberly was in the dorm in "Rough Housing". Mrs. Garrett even embraces Willis, Arnold, and Mr. Drummond, but not Kimberly, indicating that she's been seeing Kimberly on a regular basis. Kimberly says, "Mrs. Garrett, look who's here!" rather than "We're here!"

I suspect Kimberly was still a dorm student in Season 1. After that, I do believe, as you say, that she became a day student at Eastland.

OK, via Kimberly saying 'look who's here' instead 'we're here', you give good evidence that she was still at least partially a boarding student in 'Rough Housing' but she had no dialogue or interactions whatsoever with any of her fellow students despite her father and brothers doing so. This leads me to think that, at this point, she was living in another dorm on campus.

However, since she never seen or mentioned for the rest of Season One (not even appearing in classes or the cafeteria where girls from all other dorms would have had to have intermingled), I think it's likely soon thereafter she became a day student- and not too long afterward transferred to the NYC public schools.

She definitely was nowhere in sight even when Arnold himself had intended to spend the weekend with Mrs. Garrett in the Season Two 'The New Girl'. And, of course, Arnold and Mrs. Garrett don't even bring her up in passing (nor Mr. Drummond or Willis).

But Kimberly was in the dorm in "Rough Housing". Mrs. Garrett even embraces Willis, Arnold, and Mr. Drummond, but not Kimberly, indicating that she's been seeing Kimberly on a regular basis. Kimberly says, "Mrs. Garrett, look who's here!" rather than "We're here!"

I suspect Kimberly was still a dorm student in Season 1. After that, I do believe, as you say, that she became a day student at Eastland.

That's right, wow, it's so weird thinking of Kimberly as being in the dorm in season 1 episodes, ha! Like Nina, she's just usually "off screen"!

However, since she never seen or mentioned for the rest of Season One (not even appearing in classes or the cafeteria where girls from all other dorms would have had to have intermingled), I think it's likely soon thereafter she became a day student- and not too long afterward transferred to the NYC public schools.

I think they just wanted to keep Kimberly separate on DS and leave FOL to Mrs. Garrett and the new girls. And Kimberly was still an Eastland student for a couple or few seasons more, evidenced by her DS dialogue.


She definitely was nowhere in sight even when Arnold himself had intended to spend the weekend with Mrs. Garrett in the Season Two 'The New Girl'. And, of course, Arnold and Mrs. Garrett don't even bring her up in passing (nor Mr. Drummond or Willis).

Since The New Girl Part 1 happened during a weekend, maybe Kimberly was waiting until Monday to go back to school. Who knows?

I find it very strange that while DS implied that Kimberly was still attending Eastland for at least a couple of years after Mrs. Garrett's departure, on FOL (which was set in Eastland itself), after 'Rough Housing' there wasn't the slightest hint that Kimberly could have been anywhere near the dorm, cafeteria or Eastland itself.

I mean, even if Miss Rae couldn't have abided working with Miss Plato a minute more than she had had to,if they wanted to imply that Kimberly was somehow still connected to Eastland, how tough would it have been for the writers to have dropped a few lines in FOL implying her presence(until Kimberly definitely had transferred to NYC public schools)?:

e.g. Blair: I can't believe that Kimberly said that during math class.

Nancy: Roger, I can't talk right now. Sue-Ann said Kimberly Drummond needs to use the phone. I guess she'll pop in when no one's looking.


Mr. Bradley: The campus is about to flood! Is everyone accounted for?
Mrs. Garrett: I think so but. .
Tootie: I'll check the stable to see if Kimberly Drummond might be there while trying to evacuate the horses!

I find it very strange that while DS implied that Kimberly was still attending Eastland for at least a couple of years after Mrs. Garrett's departure, on FOL (which was set in Eastland itself), after 'Rough Housing' there wasn't the slightest hint that Kimberly could have been anywhere near the dorm, cafeteria or Eastland itself.

I mean, even if Miss Rae couldn't have abided working with Miss Plato a minute more than she had had to,if they wanted to imply that Kimberly was somehow still connected to Eastland, how tough would it have been for the writers to have dropped a few lines in FOL implying her presence(until Kimberly definitely had transferred to NYC public schools)?:

e.g. Blair: I can't believe that Kimberly said that during math class.

Nancy: Roger, I can't talk right now. Sue-Ann said Kimberly Drummond needs to use the phone. I guess she'll pop in when no one's looking.


Mr. Bradley: The campus is about to flood! Is everyone accounted for?
Mrs. Garrett: I think so but. .
Tootie: I'll check the stable to see if Kimberly Drummond might be there while trying to evacuate the horses!

Yeah, the continuity would have been better if they had just name-dropped Kimberly a few times. We would have avoided any confusion about where Kimberly was.

But NBC executives were so worried about the large cast that any mention of a ninth girl in the dorms (seven plus Nina plus Kimberly) might have been nixed.

It's possible that Kimberly was in a different dorm during S1 of FOL, but if so, why does she invite girls from a different dorm than her to a slumber party? Wouldn't you invite your roommates, just as Tootie invites Natalie to her aunt's place in Buffalo? Tootie doesn't invite Brenda, for example.


Also, your line for Nancy is hilarious! :lol:

Yeah, the continuity would have been better if they had just name-dropped Kimberly a few times. We would have avoided any confusion about where Kimberly was.

But NBC executives were so worried about the large cast that any mention of a ninth girl in the dorms (seven plus Nina plus Kimberly) might have been nixed.

It's possible that Kimberly was in a different dorm during S1 of FOL, but if so, why does she invite girls from a different dorm than her to a slumber party? Wouldn't you invite your roommates, just as Tootie invites Natalie to her aunt's place in Buffalo? Tootie doesn't invite Brenda, for example.


Also, your line for Nancy is hilarious! :lol:

Thanks, glad you liked it!

Seriously, though, it made no sense for the FOL to have been spun off from DS via Kimberly yet never even have her REFERRED to on the show after 'Rough Housing'!

Yeah, the continuity would have been better if they had just name-dropped Kimberly a few times. We would have avoided any confusion about where Kimberly was.

But NBC executives were so worried about the large cast that any mention of a ninth girl in the dorms (seven plus Nina plus Kimberly) might have been nixed.

It's possible that Kimberly was in a different dorm during S1 of FOL, but if so, why does she invite girls from a different dorm than her to a slumber party? Wouldn't you invite your roommates, just as Tootie invites Natalie to her aunt's place in Buffalo? Tootie doesn't invite Brenda, for example.


Also, your line for Nancy is hilarious! :lol:
Tumpy and Kedgy too

Tumpy and Kedgy too

But Tumpy, Emily, Gail, and presumably Kedgy were in another dorm: Tumpy and Emily even mock the old housemother in their dorm, saying they could use Mrs. Garrett's "fresh blood".

Nina appears to have been in the dorm with Nancy, Blair, etc.: Justin Branch goes to that dorm. And everyone's familiar enough with Nina that Nancy just calls him "Nina's father"; not like Tumpy and Kedgy, who are referred to by their last name, Barksdale.

But when Kimberly takes Mrs. Garrett to the school, she goes to the dorm; presumably, Kimberly is in that dorm. Otherwise, why go there?

It's possible that Kimberly was in a different dorm during S1 of FOL, but if so, why does she invite girls from a different dorm than her to a slumber party? Wouldn't you invite your roommates, just as Tootie invites Natalie to her aunt's place in Buffalo? Tootie doesn't invite Brenda, for example.

If she were in a different dorm, I'd see her inviting "our girls" over for a slumber party instead of her then current roommates because they were her "old friends" she still loved and enjoyed seeing when she could. :grouphug: But maybe she still was in that dorm.

But Tumpy, Emily, Gail, and presumably Kedgy were in another dorm: Tumpy and Emily even mock the old housemother in their dorm, saying they could use Mrs. Garrett's "fresh blood".

Lorsie, he's got ya there, bud! It is obvious those bad girls are in another dorm because they expressly say so. They say they wish Mrs. Garrett would come to their dorm.


Nina appears to have been in the dorm with Nancy, Blair, etc.: Justin Branch goes to that dorm. And everyone's familiar enough with Nina that Nancy just calls him "Nina's father"; not like Tumpy and Kedgy, who are referred to by their last name, Barksdale.

Yeah, calling them by their last names indicates they definitely live elsewhere. That'd be like if we all lived in a Facts fan dorm, I'd never say, "Hey, Retro, did you hear Lorimar Television got a new DVD set?" I'd say "Lorsie" if he lived in the same dorm.


But when Kimberly takes Mrs. Garrett to the school, she goes to the dorm; presumably, Kimberly is in that dorm. Otherwise, why go there?

Yup, and her dialogue indicates she lives there: "The Croc must be gone. This is the only chance we ever have to let off some steam!", along with introducing a handful of the other girls who live there.

In "The Social Worker" episode of "Diff'rent Strokes", Mr. Drummond said Kimberly spends the week at the school and comes back home only for the weekend. In season 2, most of the time Kimberly is having breakfast with her family, so we have to assume that she isn't a full time student anymore, however, she's still very close to her old schoolmates in the dorm. Later, in season 5 of DS (Season 4 of Facts), Kimberly moved to a public school. We have to assume that she visited the dorm and the cafeteria offscreen during seasons 1-3 of Facts. Five of the eight girls (Blair, Tootie, Molly, Nancy and Sue Ann) knew Mrs. Garrett had been Kimberly's housekeeper, Jo knew who Willis was when he helped Blair in "Bought and Sold" and Cindy and Natalie made a guest appearence on DS. Plus, Willis mentioned Kimberly to the girls ("I have a sister", I don't remember his exact line).

More than Kimberly at Eastland, I would have liked to see Mrs. Garrett with the girls when they appeared on the parent show. Aside from that, I'm sure the writers didn't want to make Dana a regular on the spin-off. Kimberly was only an "excuse" to bring Mrs. Garrett to the school, the only plausible way

In "The Social Worker" episode of "Diff'rent Strokes", Mr. Drummond said Kimberly spends the week at the school and comes back home only for the weekend. In season 2, most of the time Kimberly is having breakfast with her family, so we have to assume that she isn't a full time student anymore

Not necessarily! :) I always assumed she just had early breakfast with her family before the chauffeur whisked her off to Eastland. :wave:

Not necessarily! :) I always assumed she just had early breakfast with her family before the chauffeur whisked her off to Eastland. :wave:

It could be but if the chauffeur brings her from the penthouse to Eastland this means that Kimberly comes back home for the evening

Yeah, calling them by their last names indicates they definitely live elsewhere. That'd be like if we all lived in a Facts fan dorm, I'd never say, "Hey, Retro, did you hear Lorimar Television got a new DVD set?" I'd say "Lorsie" if he lived in the same dorm.

Haha, yeah! :lol:


Yup, and her dialogue indicates she lives there: "The Croc must be gone. This is the only chance we ever have to let off some steam!", along with introducing a handful of the other girls who live there.

Right. If she doesn't live in the dorms, why is she going there to let off some steam?

It could be but if the chauffeur brings her from the penthouse to Eastland this means that Kimberly comes back home for the evening

Not necessarily! It could be that many of those DS episodes with breakfast just happen to be on Monday mornings! :lol: :wave:

Right. If she doesn't live in the dorms, why is she going there to let off some steam?

She may even go up or down the stairs "to her room" in the dorm at some point.

Not necessarily! It could be that many of those DS episodes with breakfast just happen to be on Monday mornings! :lol: :wave:

:lol::lol::lol: "Mondays with Kimberly"

I'm sure Kimberly lived in the dorm during the pre-FOL year. In 1979, she moved to a new dorm or probably left the school before the evening

I'm sure Kimberly lived in the dorm during the pre-FOL year. In 1979, she moved to a new dorm or probably left the school before the evening

Kimberly still talked about being a student at Eastland in "The Older Man" and I think one of the episodes where Kim Fields replaced Gary Coleman.

Kimberly still talked about being a student at Eastland in "The Older Man" and I think one of the episodes where Kim Fields replaced Gary Coleman.

Yes, she was at Eastland until the second episode of season 5, which was season 4 of Facts. I have the impression she changed dorms for the second season of DS or simply became a "part time student"

Yes, she was at Eastland until the second episode of season 5, which was season 4 of Facts. I have the impression she changed dorms for the second season of DS or simply became a "part time student"

Kimberly must have either been lying about her whereabouts to Mr. Drummond and the others with no one fact-checking her alibi OR worn a completely invisible outfit after 'Rough Housing' since no one at Eastland seemed to ever SEE or hear about her there!

Kimberly must have either been lying about her whereabouts to Mr. Drummond and the others with no one fact-checking her alibi OR worn a completely invisible outfit after 'Rough Housing' since no one at Eastland seemed to ever SEE or hear about her there!

Plot twist: Kimberly was wearing a Harry Potter Cloak of Invisibility! :lol:

But Tumpy, Emily, Gail, and presumably Kedgy were in another dorm: Tumpy and Emily even mock the old housemother in their dorm, saying they could use Mrs. Garrett's "fresh blood".

Sorry I thought we were just discussing girls mentioned in s1 :lol:
If she were in a different dorm, I'd see her inviting "our girls" over for a slumber party instead of her then current roommates because they were her "old friends" she still loved and enjoyed seeing when she could. :grouphug: But maybe she still was in that dorm.

Yes that would make sense, maybe she hung out with Molly and Tootie still and met Nat and Cindy through them, despite her not living in the form by the time they came.

mabye he locked in a room with the lost Girls lol

kimberly snuck away to long island i saw her on growing pains episode lol

mabye he locked in a room with the lost Girls lol

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

kimberly snuck away to long island i saw her on growing pains episode lol

I remember that episode. Kimberly was acting very Madonna-like.

Sorry I thought we were just discussing girls mentioned in s1 :lol:

But the Barksdales were only mentioned in S1! :lol: :p