View Full Version : Did Angela overstep her boundaries by telling Sam to go to her room


TMC
02-03-2022, 11:45 PM
In the episode "Hit the Road Chad" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeuiiGwRTpI), where Sam doesn't want Angela to use a song (which would later be redone (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyZIJzA4zhY&t=86s) by none other than Ray Charles) that her boyfriend Chad wrote after Sam caught Chad cheating on her.

On one end, Angela isn't (https://web.archive.org/web/20140405003512/http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/topic/2874131-whos-the-boss/page-12#entry13771872) Samantha's mother, or even stepmother, aunt, or some other legal guardian. So it's interesting that when Tony, her father soon comes in and tells her to go to her room (https://web.archive.org/web/20140407134732/http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/topic/2874131-whos-the-boss/page-8#entry13233213), Sam acquiesced. And it seemed like Angela only reacted the way that she did when Sam went off on her son, Jonathan.

On the other end, Angela is still the "woman of the house" and Sam is in effect, living in Angela's house. So since Sam is still underaged, she in theory, should be respectful of Angela's rules. Plus, Angela is at the end of the day, helping Tony take care of his daughter, so in a round about way, she does have to be a parental figure to Sam. And Sam depending on your point of view, came across as a brat.

Novera
02-14-2022, 03:28 PM
I remember being shocked that she said that to her since (the 80s loved this trope) "You're not my real mom" and this whole concept was very foreign to me since I had two traditional old school parents. But the worst part of that episode for me, that is so minuscule but I can't get over it... when Sam starts tearing up at the song, Jonathan keeps looking back at her like "oh wow, this is so emotional". I know it was just the actor Danny reacting quite genuinely, but I could never get over the awkwardness of that moment.

'80sSitcoms
02-18-2022, 01:57 PM
It all seemed very natural to me. #TeamAngela lol

Samantha and Jonathan are pseudo-siblings, Angela (to Samantha) and Tony (to Jonathan) are pseudo-parents.

TMC
02-20-2022, 05:23 AM
I remember being shocked that she said that to her since (the 80s loved this trope) "You're not my real mom" and this whole concept was very foreign to me since I had two traditional old school parents. But the worst part of that episode for me, that is so minuscule but I can't get over it... when Sam starts tearing up at the song, Jonathan keeps looking back at her like "oh wow, this is so emotional". I know it was just the actor Danny reacting quite genuinely, but I could never get over the awkwardness of that moment.

Looking at that scene today, it has become incredibly cliche (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YoureNotMyFather) for an angry child to say in the heat of the moment to a parental figure/surrogate parent that they aren't their real mom or dad. Did Sam leading up to that point just see Angela as her dad's boss and the lady that owns the house that she and her dad lived in?

I wonder if Sam considering that her actual mom died when she was really young, wasn't really used or accustomed to having a female role model/authority figure in her life before she met Angela. Angela telling Sam to go to her room must of been a bit of a shell-shock, since she never acted like that towards her before. So Angela when you get right down to it, may literally be the closest thing that Sam ever had to a mother.

TMC
04-04-2022, 01:32 AM
I remember being shocked that she said that to her since (the 80s loved this trope) "You're not my real mom" and this whole concept was very foreign to me since I had two traditional old school parents. But the worst part of that episode for me, that is so minuscule but I can't get over it... when Sam starts tearing up at the song, Jonathan keeps looking back at her like "oh wow, this is so emotional". I know it was just the actor Danny reacting quite genuinely, but I could never get over the awkwardness of that moment.

That reminds me of this episode (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0560032/) from the very last season of Diff'rent Strokes (in the series moved to ABC after NBC dropped it in 1985) where Mr. Drummond didn't want Arnold to throw rotten food at a hate group who was scheduled to speak on his school's campus. Mr. Drummond argues that it's within the hate group's constitutional right to speak regardless of how abhorrent their message is.

At one point in that episode, Arnold out of frustration says to Mr. Drummond that he isn't his father. I'm kind of surprised that Arnold didn't say to Mr. Drummond since the isn't black, he wouldn't entirely know how it feels like in his shoes.