Here's the link to Mr. Garrison's review of the fifth and sixth seasons (https://southpark.cc.com/video-clips/3dv2p9/south-park-the-facts-of-life).

I remember that (I watch South Park) and thinking "Wait, Tootie never left and Blair and Jo never got husbands". I didn't get the joke :confused:

I remember that (I watch South Park) and thinking "Wait, Tootie never left and Blair and Jo never got husbands". I didn't get the joke :confused:

Well, Jo did get married in Season 9. We actually almost never saw her husband, Rick, though, so some fans feel it was crazy to marry her off to someone we barely ever saw.

The joke was that Mr. Garrison was, it's presumed, supposed to be talking to the kids about sex education. Instead of teaching them about "the facts of life", he's telling them about a 1980s sitcom. Kind of like if a lecturer was asked to talk about being married with children, but he misunderstood the topic, and his lecture was about the Bundy family ("...then Steve left in the fourth season...")

It's possible that Mr. Garrison was confusing Tootie for Nancy, Sue Ann, and Cindy, who disappeared during Season 3 (not Season 4).

But did Mr. Garrison have a point about the fifth and six seasons?

But did Mr. Garrison have a point about the fifth and six seasons?No he didn't. The Edna's Edibles seasons rock. When it went down is Over Our Heads, then down more so for the Cloris Leachman seasons. Even that final third of FOL though isn't as bad as what its parent show Diff'rent Strokes became. Danny Cooksey is one of the most irritating actors ever, and I didn't like either Maggie.

No he didn't. The Edna's Edibles seasons rock. When it went down is Over Our Heads, then down more so for the Cloris Leachman seasons. Even that final third of FOL though isn't as bad as what its parent show Diff'rent Strokes became. Danny Cooksey is one of the most irritating actors ever, and I didn't like either Maggie.

For me, the EE era is okay, but not as good as the Eastland years. However, I think you're right about the OOH years taking a dive.

I think Mr. Garrison should have said, "Mrs. Garrett left in the eighth season, but Jo got a husband in Season 9, leaving the later half of Season 8 and Season 9 hideously stagnant."

The joke was that Mr. Garrison was, it's presumed, supposed to be talking to the kids about sex education. Instead of teaching them about "the facts of life", he's telling them about a 1980s sitcom. Kind of like if a lecturer was asked to talk about being married with children, but he misunderstood the topic, and his lecture was about the Bundy family ("...then Steve left in the fourth season...")


The concept I got. I just didn’t get the funny in what he actually said.

So Jo got married, huh? Didn’t remember that.

The concept I got. I just didn’t get the funny in what he actually said.

So Jo got married, huh? Didn’t remember that.

On its original airing, I missed the wedding episode. I was so confused in subsequent episodes, when Jo would talk about her husband, Rick. Especially because after he marries Jo, we see him exactly one time, and it's only briefly.

Why depict someone getting married if we're seldom going to see the husband? What would be the point of that storyline? It feels so tacked on and weird. And it raises a lot of questions. Like why is Jo still living with the girls when she's got a husband living in another home?

On its original airing, I missed the wedding episode. I was so confused in subsequent episodes, when Jo would talk about her husband, Rick. Especially because after he marries Jo, we see him exactly one time, and it's only briefly.

Why depict someone getting married if we're seldom going to see the husband? What would be the point of that storyline? It feels so tacked on and weird. And it raises a lot of questions. Like why is Jo still living with the girls when she's got a husband living in another home?

Hopefully one of the regulars will come in and hash all that out with you. I just got drawn in here by the South Park aspect.

Hopefully one of the regulars will come in and hash all that out with you.

Oh, we'll hash! That's for sure. We'll hash for days on the Jo-Rick weird marriage thing, for sure. :lol:

I just got drawn in here by the South Park aspect.

Yeah, I remember seeing the South Park clip many years ago. Looking it up, it was in Season 3, which was aired in 2000. I might have caught this during its original airing, and I vaguely remember watching this episode, laughing my butt off in the apartment building I lived in at the time.

The concept I got. I just didn’t get the funny in what he actually said.

So Jo got married, huh? Didn’t remember that.

Jo got married, went on their honeymoon, and then returned to live with the other girls. Weird.

Jo got married, went on their honeymoon, and then returned to live with the other girls. Weird.

Very odd, indeed. Had the marriage episode aired at the very end of the season, it would have made a bit more sense: Jo could have been packing up during the last two episodes.

Rick was one weird dude.

In my opinion, seasons 5 and 6 were good, not as good as the cafeteria years but definitely better than a good portion of OOH episodes

In my opinion, seasons 5 and 6 were good, not as good as the cafeteria years but definitely better than a good portion of OOH episodes

So it looks as though most people believe Mr. Garrison was wrong.

So it looks as though most people believe Mr. Garrison was wrong.

Season 6 isn't that bad but I agree with Christopher when he says season 5 is depressing. Several plots were really silly like Blair that fires Mrs. Garrett, Natalie that attends two schools and behaves like an airhead, Jo doesn't want to hang out with a rich guy, Jeff can't read, a new character obsessed with Jo, the store doesn't get a real focus outside the premiere episode. The first bunch of episodes are really boring but the second half of the season, after the Christmas break, is quite good:wave:

Season 6 isn't that bad but I agree with Christopher when he says season 5 is depressing. Several plots were really silly like Blair that fires Mrs. Garrett,

Oh, man! I love "Gamma Gamma"! That is my favorite episode of Season 5. Jami Gertz is "a hoot" and I feel like the Blair/Edna dynamic was well done. Plus, the visual gag of the girls moving all the bad dishes to the back of the table, so every dish gets moved to the back of the table, is hilarious.

You have stabbed me through the heart, ITA! :lol:


Natalie that attends two schools and behaves like an airhead, Jo doesn't want to hang out with a rich guy,

Yeah, I don't care for "Just My Bill".


Jeff can't read, a new character obsessed with Jo,

Well, after Miko AND Roy were obsessed with Jo, we can't blame Kelly for being obsessed with her, as well, can we? :lol:


the store doesn't get a real focus outside the premiere episode.

I felt like the Christmas and Halloween episodes were centered on the store, what with the store's meat being the central plot point of "Halloween Show", and Edna's fruitcakes being the centerpiece of the Christmas episode. Plus, "Store Games" felt very store-centered.

Oh, man! I love "Gamma Gamma"! That is my favorite episode of Season 5. Jami Gertz is "a hoot" and I feel like the Blair/Edna dynamic was well done. Plus, the visual gag of the girls moving all the bad dishes to the back of the table, so every dish gets moved to the back of the table, is hilarious.

You have stabbed me through the heart, ITA! :lol:



Yeah, I don't care for "Just My Bill".



Well, after Miko AND Roy were obsessed with Jo, we can't blame Kelly for being obsessed with her, as well, can we? :lol:



I felt like the Christmas and Halloween episodes were centered on the store, what with the store's meat being the central plot point of "Halloween Show", and Edna's fruitcakes being the centerpiece of the Christmas episode. Plus, "Store Games" felt very store-centered.

I'm so sorry, Retro :lol: I could give a pass to "Gamma Gamma or Bust" but the other episodes, no way :lol:

I agree about "Store Games" but other episodes, like "The Chain Letter", weren't really about the store, IMO :wave:

On its original airing, I missed the wedding episode. I was so confused in subsequent episodes, when Jo would talk about her husband, Rick. Especially because after he marries Jo, we see him exactly one time, and it's only briefly.

Why depict someone getting married if we're seldom going to see the husband? What would be the point of that storyline? It feels so tacked on and weird. And it raises a lot of questions. Like why is Jo still living with the girls when she's got a husband living in another home?

I think the actor, Scott Bryce, was super busy at the time as a lead on the soap opera, As the World Turns. He was part of the super couple of Craig and Sierra.

I think the actor, Scott Bryce, was super busy at the time as a lead on the soap opera, As the World Turns. He was part of the super couple of Craig and Sierra.

Huh, interesting!

Why'd they hire an actor who already had a steady gig on another series?

There certainly were plenty of actors they could have hired and many of them probably would not be as goofy as Rick/Scott.

Scott also played Corky's first husband on Murphy Brown, before she was paired with Miles. He also did this while steadily working on ATWT. Random trivia: Meg Ryan was his first leading lady on the soap.

Jo's other sometimes-love interest, Flyman, was played by Michael Damian, a contract actor on The Young and the Restless.

Scott also played Corky's first husband on Murphy Brown, before she was paired with Miles. He also did this while steadily working on ATWT. Random trivia: Meg Ryan was his first leading lady on the soap.
I remember very little of Murphy Brown, other than Corky's name became Corky Sherwood-Forrest. :lol:

Some of the later season-six episodes faltered some, with thew absence of Mrs.G, though, on the whole, the EE era was enjoyable.

In Season 8, I believe Mrs. G was absent from even more shows, which made that season- along with the OOH store- less enjoyable than the prior couple of seasons.

Some of the later season-six episodes faltered some, with thew absence of Mrs.G, though, on the whole, the EE era was enjoyable.

In Season 8, I believe Mrs. G was absent from even more shows, which made that season- along with the OOH store- less enjoyable than the prior couple of seasons.

Charlotte only appeared in the first two episodes of Season 8, to wrap up her character's storyline. It was Season 7, with the OOH store, where she had reduced appearances.

Charlotte only appeared in the first two episodes of Season 8, to wrap up her character's storyline. It was Season 7, with the OOH store, where she had reduced appearances.

He's still right though, Mrs. Garrett was indeed gone from shows in season 8 since she only appeared in two. :lol:

(I know what he meant, it was just funny :lol:)

Some of the later season-six episodes faltered some, with thew absence of Mrs.G, though, on the whole, the EE era was enjoyable.

In Season 8, I believe Mrs. G was absent from even more shows, which made that season- along with the OOH store- less enjoyable than the prior couple of seasons.

I agree that the later seasons weren't as good as the earlier years but season 8 is a very strong season. Aside from Mrs. Garrett's absence, the stories are really enjoyable. I think season 7 is one of the weakest, the opening of a new store that wasn't really featured in the storylines was quite pointless, but there were a couple of good episodes

I agree that the later seasons weren't as good as the earlier years but season 8 is a very strong season. Aside from Mrs. Garrett's absence, the stories are really enjoyable. I think season 7 is one of the weakest, the opening of a new store that wasn't really featured in the storylines was quite pointless, but there were a couple of good episodes

Even worse than the opening of the new store, the producers rarely even bothered to pay for actors to play customers in the store! :mad:

Even worse than the opening of the new store, the producers rarely even bothered to pay for actors to play customers in the store! :mad:

I agree. What was the point of a new store without customers? They should have rebuilt "Edna's Edibles", Mrs. Garrett would have had more space in season 7

I agree. What was the point of a new store without customers?

It drives me crazy! Well, not crazy enough to grab a knife and chop meat at midnight, but still! :lol:


They should have rebuilt "Edna's Edibles", Mrs. Garrett would have had more space in season 7

Yeah, that "cookie corner" they stuck her in sucked! Where was Edna's famous quiche!? :mad:

I wonder why they didn't keep Edna's Edibles? I know Mindy Cohn wonders the same thing or wishes they did.

I wonder why they didn't keep Edna's Edibles? I know Mindy Cohn wonders the same thing or wishes they did.

What did Mindy say?

As for why they didn't keep Edna's Edibles: around the time of the Coca-Cola buyout, Coke hired producers who didn't share Norman Lear's liberal values; the show became very corporate. What better way to embrace capitalism than with a 1980s gift shop hawking resold merch and the latest fad gifts? The producers were all about what was "in" and "fashionable". The girls got the latest (tacky) haircuts and now wore fad clothing. The show lost its roots as the scripts became lightweight. As soon as Coke sold the show, the OOH concept was dropped, and the store closed.

I agree. What was the point of a new store without customers?

Too many people!

;)

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Too many people!

;)

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:lol:

"They had ten, twelve customers! Pick zero! Forget everybody else!" :lol: