Molly talks about her Facts of Life career in a new interview with fellow Facts of Life alum Mayim Bialik.

She does talk more about her one and only Season 2 appearance on FOL than she ever did before. This is during the early part of the interview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euh5bPQaLzI&t=90s

A couple of tidbits.

Molly went to the Warren Littlefield School of Mathematics.


Molly said that if her mother could do it over again, Molly wouldn't have been a child actor.

Very cool that she has opened up once more about the pain and humiliation she felt; glad she's talking about it.

And yes, she went a little Warren Littlefieldy with the numbers. :lol:

Very cool that she has opened up once more about the pain and humiliation she felt; glad she's talking about it.

And yes, she went a little Warren Littlefieldy with the numbers. :lol:

She always adds a little more. This time she said that she thought she did something wrong that got her fired. Evidently they didn't do a good job at communicating that with her and her parents. I still think they should have paired her up with at least one of the older Lost Girls for support rather than leave a 12 year old alone paired up with an almost 20 year old stranger she never met before (Margo).

She always adds a little more. This time she said that she thought she did something wrong that got her fired. Evidently they didn't do a good job at communicating that with her and her parents.

I honestly doubt there was much communication at all. Felice got a call, and the call was, "Felice, Julie, Julie Anne, and Molly aren't going to be on the show anymore."


I still think they should have paired her up with at least one of the older Lost Girls for support rather than leave a 12 year old alone paired up with an almost 20 year old stranger she never met before (Margo).

Producers in 1980 were never going to do that. These were men who thought it was perfectly okay for a 25-year-old man to kiss a 14-year-old girl romantically because it was acting. For whatever reason, Hollywood traditionally cast men in roles for which they are inappropriate, Luke Perry being the most notorious (he was cast as a high school sophomore at age 25). Casting decisions were based on the script. The script for "The New Girl" only called for Molly, so they weren't going to add Sue Ann or Nancy to the scene, no matter how Molly felt. Attitudes were completely different. There was no sensitivity, no thought paid to how an actress might feel. Decisions were coming from a network run by men who couldn't count to seven.

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WOW

YET ANOTHER Molly interview talking about The Facts of Life. !!!!

At this rate, by 2033 we'll have every Facts memory of hers documented! :D

And yeah, sure, she was off a bit on the number of girls, but she was closer than W*rr*n! :)

And really, when you count Nina, that's 8, and "Heather", that's 9. ;)

It's always such a thrill to hear Molly say the characters' names! :loveya:

How interesting to hear that Molly's mom wouldn't have had Molly be a child actor if she knew then what she knew now.

Poor Molly! She thought she did something wrong and wasn't told! :sad:

But how fantastic to hear her talking about the show more!!! What an early Xmas present for this board!!!!! :D

Here's the video cued up to where Molly ushers in talking about FOL: (the blue link is cued up, the embedded video starts at the beginning)

https://youtu.be/euh5bPQaLzI?t=644


euh5bPQaLzI?t=644

Maybe Molly was thinking of the Lost Lost Girls (Jennifer and Laura) of being part of the show. Molly usually has a photographic memory and can recall details from The Tempest and the space movie. Maybe the Fact of Life was too painful for her to recall everything.

Maybe Molly was thinking of the Lost Lost Girls (Jennifer and Laura) of being part of the show. Molly usually has a photographic memory and can recall details from The Tempest and the space movie. Maybe the Fact of Life was too painful for her to recall everything.

Yeah, the only way there would be nine is if they included Jennifer and Laura.... or Tumpy and Emily. But they were never regulars, or even semi-regulars.

She does have a good memory, and is kind of the anti-Felice. ;)

Yeah, the only way there would be nine is if they included Jennifer and Laura.... or Tumpy and Emily. But they were never regulars, or even semi-regulars.

I think she "pulled a Warren" and was thinking of the main cast and just got off by a couple of numbers. After all, this was 40 years ago, she remembers the group of them, and she apparently hasn't tried to think much about it in her adult life.


She does have a good memory, and is kind of the anti-Felice. ;)

Hahaha! :rofl:

She sure is---in more ways than one! :lookaroun ;)

I think she "pulled a Warren" and was thinking of the main cast and just got off by a couple of numbers. After all, this was 40 years ago, she remembers the group of them, and she apparently hasn't tried to think much about it in her adult life.


"Pulled a Warren" is a hilarious turn of phrase, but I think what she did should be called a "Reverse Warren". :lol:



Hahaha! :rofl:

She sure is---in more ways than one! :lookaroun ;)

True! :lol:

Molly and Felice are also very opinionated on social media. But they don't agree on much. Perhaps that is why Felice had no memories of Molly.

Molly and Felice are also very opinionated on social media. But they don't agree on much. Perhaps that is why Felice had no memories of Molly.

But Felice also has no memories of Julie Pie, and they would likely agree on some politics.

How does Molly know Mayim dodged a bullet with the FOL spinoff? There's no telling what that spinoff could have been like if NBC had picked it up. Mayim would have found success with it just like she did with Blossom. It seems like Molly is still bitter after 40 years which is pathetic. She really needs to let it go and move on from her experience with FOL. It's a shame they didn't use her one appearance in season 2 for the suicide episode. That would have been a perfect ending to that crappy character. Even though the other season 1 girls aren't my favorite, I'm glad they are more mature than Molly and appreciate their time on the show instead of living in a toxic energy about their experience.

I agree. I don't understand why Molly is still bitter. After all, she has had a succesful film career after Facts. Don't get me wrong, for a teenage girl it must have been a shock but not after nearly 45 years :lol:. I have always appreciated the professionalism of the other Lost Girls, particularly Julie Piekarski, who have always spoked well of the show, even though they were unceremoniously dropped. If you think, Julie Pie. should have been the most disappointed girl about her firing, since her character did get a lot of attention in season 1.

I agree. I don't understand why Molly is still bitter. After all, she has had a succesful film career after Facts. Don't get me wrong, for a teenage girl it must have been a shock but not after nearly 45 years :lol:. I have always appreciated the professionalism of the other Lost Girls, particularly Julie Piekarski, who have always spoked well of the show, even though they were unceremoniously dropped. If you think, Julie Pie. should have been the most disappointed girl about her firing, since her character did get a lot of attention in season 1.

No reason for Molly to still be bitter. Even today she has more work than any of the other 7 main girls.

I agree. I don't understand why Molly is still bitter. After all, she has had a succesful film career after Facts. Don't get me wrong, for a teenage girl it must have been a shock but not after nearly 45 years :lol:. I have always appreciated the professionalism of the other Lost Girls, particularly Julie Piekarski, who have always spoked well of the show, even though they were unceremoniously dropped. If you think, Julie Pie. should have been the most disappointed girl about her firing, since her character did get a lot of attention in season 1.

I agree 100% with you. Molly wasn't a main girl in season 1. Blair, Tootie, and Sue Ann were the main ones that got most of the screen time. Molly was just a side kick character like Cindy and Natalie. I feel like Nancy was a guest starring character since her only screen time was on the phone for a minute if that :lol: I'm sure not everything she went through with FOL is as toxic as she makes it in her interviews. But for her to say Mayim dodged a bullet, she should think about all the shows with spinoffs that are far more popular than its parent show. There's a strong possibility the spinoff could have been popular than FOL. We'll never know and it's hard to say what would have become of Mayim's career. It's interviews like this that I wish Lisa had never given up her acting career when she was still hot in Hollywood. I have no doubt Lisa could have made it bigger than Molly if she wasn't religious and open to times changing with the stories being told.

I agree 100% with you. Molly wasn't a main girl in season 1. Blair, Tootie, and Sue Ann were the main ones that got most of the screen time. Molly was just a side kick character like Cindy and Natalie. I feel like Nancy was a guest starring character since her only screen time was on the phone for a minute if that :lol: I'm sure not everything she went through with FOL is as toxic as she makes it in her interviews. But for her to say Mayim dodged a bullet, she should think about all the shows with spinoffs that are far more popular than its parent show. There's a strong possibility the spinoff could have been popular than FOL. We'll never know and it's hard to say what would have become of Mayim's career. It's interviews like this that I wish Lisa had never given up her acting career when she was still hot in Hollywood. I have no doubt Lisa could have made it bigger than Molly if she wasn't religious and open to times changing with the stories being told.



And i agree 100% with you Christopher!:wave:

LISA was so talented, and if she hadn't met that priest and gotten married she would have made it to stardom for many years to come!
Luckily though, she made a few cameo appearances, and also starred in a recent movie not so long ago (like that Christmas movie on Hallmark she was in with KIM and MINDY) so hopefully it won't be the end of it and we'll see her in more films...

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So much to dig into, here! Thank you for commenting, Christopher!

How does Molly know Mayim dodged a bullet with the FOL spinoff?

I believe it was Mayim, not Molly, who used the "dodged that bullet" phrase. To be honest, no Facts of Life spin-off could have been more cringey than Blossom, and I think even Mayim knows this.


There's no telling what that spinoff could have been like if NBC had picked it up. Mayim would have found success with it just like she did with Blossom. It seems like Molly is still bitter after 40 years which is pathetic. She really needs to let it go and move on from her experience with FOL.

I don't think Molly said anything bad against the show, just telling her story of how she was twelve and how it felt like such a disappointment, such a let-down.


It's a shame they didn't use her one appearance in season 2 for the suicide episode. That would have been a perfect ending to that crappy character.

Ouch! :lol: Molly wasn't a favorite of mine, but IMO, they could have tweaked her character to bring out a more positive side to her, stead of just lecturing about women/flesh parades/whatever.


Even though the other season 1 girls aren't my favorite, I'm glad they are more mature than Molly and appreciate their time on the show instead of living in a toxic energy about their experience.

Yeah, I particularly like when Felice says "It felt like a rejection..." but then counters with, "But thank God..." These girls picked themselves up and dusted themselves off. They're happy to share their memories.

I'm just glad Molly's willing to talk about it now. She didn't say a word about it for decades. To me, it feels healing. And she did a reunion with Charlotte, before Charlotte's passing, so it's not like she has continued to just diss the show, unlike her 1986 interview. Like, she showed Charlotte real honor.

I agree. I don't understand why Molly is still bitter.

Is she still bitter, or was she bitter, and is now just describing the bitterness she once felt?

After all, she has had a succesful film career after Facts. Don't get me wrong, for a teenage girl it must have been a shock but not after nearly 45 years :lol:. I have always appreciated the professionalism of the other Lost Girls, particularly Julie Piekarski, who have always spoked well of the show, even though they were unceremoniously dropped. If you think, Julie Pie. should have been the most disappointed girl about her firing, since her character did get a lot of attention in season 1.

Julie Pie had to have really been caught off-guard. Felice and John clearly saw the writing on the walls, since they went to the producers, but there was NO reason for Julie Pie to have suspected that the producers would dump Sue Ann, who was in nearly every scene, and even got in on the "our group" hug at the end of the season, while John, Julie Anne, Molly, and Nancy were downstairs packing their boxes.

But Julie Pie has always been about "the show must go on": happy to retell her memories and just be "a cheerleader for the show".

And i agree 100% with you Christopher!:wave:

LISA was so talented, and if she hadn't met that priest and gotten married she would have made it to stardom for many years to come!
Luckily though, she made a few cameo appearances, and also starred in a recent movie not so long ago (like that Christmas movie on Hallmark she was in with KIM and MINDY) so hopefully it won't be the end of it and we'll see her in more films...

I feel like Lisa could have had a similar career and popularity that Jennifer Aniston has. She has the talent and still very beautiful for Hollywood's standards. She has the personality which is also important. She could have gone far if she wasn't against the times changing from the 80's to the 90's.



So much to dig into, here! Thank you for commenting, Christopher!

Normally I avoid things with Molly Ringwald, but she earned some points from me with how she treated Luke Perry's death that I thought I'd listen to her for a second or two :lol:


I believe it was Mayim, not Molly, who used the "dodged that bullet" phrase. To be honest, no Facts of Life spin-off could have been more cringey than Blossom, and I think even Mayim knows this.

No, it was Molly who cut Mayim off telling her she dodged a bullet. I agree Blossom is cringeworthy, but Mayim gained a lot of popularity from it. She also could have gained popularity from the FOL spinoff. Nancy McKeon had a lot of TV roles and that never would have happened if it weren't for FOL. Kim went onto acting, directing, and producing. The FOL is a big part of why Kim is able to do that. Molly just can't see anything positive from FOL. It's sad and pathetic.

I don't think Molly said anything bad against the show, just telling her story of how she was twelve and how it felt like such a disappointment, such a let-down.

She's done this so many times though. I can't believe there wasn't anything remotely positive during her time on the show that she could focus on instead.

Ouch! :lol: Molly wasn't a favorite of mine, but IMO, they could have tweaked her character to bring out a more positive side to her, stead of just lecturing about women/flesh parades/whatever.

They should have kept Molly like she was in the pilot. Changing her character for season 1 was a bad mistake.


I'm just glad Molly's willing to talk about it now. She didn't say a word about it for decades. To me, it feels healing. And she did a reunion with Charlotte, before Charlotte's passing, so it's not like she has continued to just diss the show, unlike her 1986 interview. Like, she showed Charlotte real honor.

And this is what Molly should be doing in future interviews about FOL. She's already shared the bad. Share the good. Look at Rose McGowan. There's a lot of people annoyed by her because all she can do is bash her time on Charmed and other projects. She's already alienated herself with Alyssa Milano. Molly should look at this. Her consistent bashing is going to annoy fans and probably affect the other stars of FOL. Share something happy Molly even if it's just thank god they fired you so you could get a movie career.

Ouch! Molly wasn't a favorite of mine, but IMO, they could have tweaked her character to bring out a more positive side to her, stead of just lecturing about women/flesh parades/whatever.

Well, that is often the topics that Molly talks about on social media, so perhaps they designed her character after herself. Molly's 11/12 year old daughter who Molly calls woke sounds like Molly Parker from Molly Ringwald's descriptions.

I feel like Lisa could have had a similar career and popularity that Jennifer Aniston has. She has the talent and still very beautiful for Hollywood's standards. She has the personality which is also important. She could have gone far if she wasn't against the times changing from the 80's to the 90's.

I do believe if Lisa hadn't chosen to raise a family, she could have continued in television all those years. But Lisa's path led elsewhere.


Normally I avoid things with Molly Ringwald, but she earned some points from me with how she treated Luke Perry's death that I thought I'd listen to her for a second or two :lol:

I would have expected nothing less from Molly, who seems very kind-hearted.


No, it was Molly who cut Mayim off telling her she dodged a bullet.

I just rewatched the segment, and although Molly says it first, Mayim repeats it. Molly isn't dissing FOL, she's saying Mayim dodged the bullet of the spin-off: Mayim expressly didn't dodge The Facts of Life, since she was on it. She dodged a spin-off she says was "so random".

I disagree with Mayim that the spin-off was "so random": the casting was clearly very well thought out, considering Juliette Lewis, Seth Green, and Mayim herself were cast.

But Mayim presents the planned show as "so random", so of course Molly says she dodged a bullet.


I agree Blossom is cringeworthy, but Mayim gained a lot of popularity from it.

I actually don't find the Blossom pilot cringey at all: it actually had a ton of dark jokes. Somehow, that got changed when the show went to series.


She's done this so many times though. I can't believe there wasn't anything remotely positive during her time on the show that she could focus on instead.

She is coming around. Each time she opens up a little more. In ten years, she will be laughing about how they opened Christmas presents on the staircase of the Eastland dorm.


They should have kept Molly like she was in the pilot. Changing her character for season 1 was a bad mistake.

Her character in the pilot was a chatterbox who was afraid of getting zits. They needed to flesh out her character, and they definitely used some of Molly's own traits. The writing for Molly just needed polishing. A girl who knew that banning books is a bad idea, in "Read No Evil", would have been the perfect time to use a character like Molly. But Molly was too "in your face" and should have been more subtle. She came across as Little Lulu when she should have been more Willow Rosenberg.


And this is what Molly should be doing in future interviews about FOL. She's already shared the bad. Share the good. Look at Rose McGowan. There's a lot of people annoyed by her because all she can do is bash her time on Charmed and other projects. She's already alienated herself with Alyssa Milano. Molly should look at this. Her consistent bashing is going to annoy fans and probably affect the other stars of FOL. Share something happy Molly even if it's just thank god they fired you so you could get a movie career.

Ugh, Rose McGowan. And actually, ugh, Alyssa Milano. It's like these two want to out-Woke one another, and their feud will never end. Rose has utterly destroyed any chance of a Charmed reunion, ever. And although I know Rose went through a lot with Weinstein, none of the Charmed people had anything to do with that. Rose is blaming people who did nothing to harm her.

Molly is nowhere near what Rose McGowan has done, which is to alienate everyone who worked with her. Molly even showed up via video to honor Charlotte.

Well, that is often the topics that Molly talks about on social media, so perhaps they designed her character after herself. Molly's 11/12 year old daughter who Molly calls woke sounds like Molly Parker from Molly Ringwald's descriptions.

I absolutely believe that Molly Parker was based on Molly Ringwald. No doubt. The producers wanted real girls, and they asked each actor and actress how their characters should be. Blair ended up the snob with a heart of gold, but otherwise, the characters were loosely based on their actresses.

Molly's character could have been toned down while still retaining that Molly sparkle. I still love Molly's line about being the president of General Motors: it's smart, it's funny, and it's delivered perfectly. It registers with the audience. "Flesh parade", "nauseating media" and "we're women" grate because they're meant to be antagonistic. Molly's lines should have been focused on empowering women, not degrading other women, tearing down institutions, or changing the definitions of common words.

A strong Molly could have stood up to Eastland's school board about banning books, could have welcomed new students, and could have stood up to the slut-shaming we saw in "Sex Symbol". She could have provided a progressive point to Sue Ann's counterpoint. And she could have been a great guide for the other girls while they were in Paris, since she was already shown to speak French. Alas, it was not to be!

Molly should go on Mondays with Mindy to discuss her life and career. Time to get back in touch with her FOL costars just like she stays in touch with many of the costars of her John Hughes movies. It was the producers and network execs that fired you. Not your former costars.

Lisa got caught up in her family cult. It eventually left her almost broke. Thankfully she got a mind of her own and decided to divorce husband of an arranged marriage and also divorced her church/cult. She became an independent woman who made her own decisions and put on her boot straps to get out of her financial hole such as appearing on Survivor, returning to Hollywood, doing speaking tours.

No reason for Molly to still be bitter. Even today she has more work than any of the other 7 main girls.

That's what I was saying. Molly still has a notable career and is more known for tons of other roles rather than a brief stint on Facts, we can't say the same for the other girls, except Kim. If I were Molly, I wouldn't care about Facts. It's the same thing for George Clooney. And Molly had her "revenge" with the Brat Pack

Is she still bitter, or was she bitter, and is now just describing the bitterness she once felt?



Julie Pie had to have really been caught off-guard. Felice and John clearly saw the writing on the walls, since they went to the producers, but there was NO reason for Julie Pie to have suspected that the producers would dump Sue Ann, who was in nearly every scene, and even got in on the "our group" hug at the end of the season, while John, Julie Anne, Molly, and Nancy were downstairs packing their boxes.

But Julie Pie has always been about "the show must go on": happy to retell her memories and just be "a cheerleader for the show".




Julie Pie is still enthusiastic today for things regarding Facts. I really like her attitude.

I agree 100% with you. Molly wasn't a main girl in season 1. Blair, Tootie, and Sue Ann were the main ones that got most of the screen time. Molly was just a side kick character like Cindy and Natalie. I feel like Nancy was a guest starring character since her only screen time was on the phone for a minute if that :lol: I'm sure not everything she went through with FOL is as toxic as she makes it in her interviews. But for her to say Mayim dodged a bullet, she should think about all the shows with spinoffs that are far more popular than its parent show. There's a strong possibility the spinoff could have been popular than FOL. We'll never know and it's hard to say what would have become of Mayim's career. It's interviews like this that I wish Lisa had never given up her acting career when she was still hot in Hollywood. I have no doubt Lisa could have made it bigger than Molly if she wasn't religious and open to times changing with the stories being told.

No doubt Lisa could have had a big career. It's a shame she gave up acting

Yeah, Molly was a certain personality at a certain age: The timing of being let go from the show was an extremely traumatic experience for her. We're grateful she has been opening up and talking about it more in recent years.

I don't think Molly said anything bad against the show, just telling her story of how she was twelve and how it felt like such a disappointment, such a let-down.

To me, it feels healing. And she did a reunion with Charlotte, before Charlotte's passing, so it's not like she has continued to just diss the show, unlike her 1986 interview. Like, she showed Charlotte real honor.

Yup. :)

And in her People "on the couch" interview, when she was watching the clip of Molly and Mrs. Garrett (which is still fascinating and ecstatic that we got to watch an Eastland girl watching herself on the show--!!!), she was smiling wistfully with warmth. :)

Julie Pie is still enthusiastic today for things regarding Facts. I really like her attitude.

The only time I've seen Julie Pie be even remotely negative about FOL was the Cast Confessions interview, where I felt the interviewers were digging for negative info. It's still a very good documentary, and we learned things (like one episode being re-taped), but feels very slanted.

Behind Closed Doors and the Oral History are the best documentaries :wave:

Behind Closed Doors and the Oral History are the best documentaries :wave:

For me, Behind Closed Doors hit all the right notes: very thorough, many never-before-seen photos, great choice of interviewees, broad in scope (they got Geri, John, Jenny, and Mack in addition to Julie Pie, Julie Anne, and Felice), and the explanation of Molly sitting in the producers' office, getting the bad news, is the most the producers have ever acknowledged about how devastated Molly was.

The Oral History is GREAT, but I wish it had been released as a video. You get so much more, listening to audio and watching video, which can't be captured in text.

For me, Behind Closed Doors hit all the right notes: very thorough, many never-before-seen photos, great choice of interviewees, broad in scope (they got Geri, John, Jenny, and Mack in addition to Julie Pie, Julie Anne, and Felice)

And Jenny! :woohoo:

So much to dig into, here! Thank you for commenting, Christopher!



I believe it was Mayim, not Molly, who used the "dodged that bullet" phrase. To be honest, no Facts of Life spin-off could have been more cringey than Blossom, and I think even Mayim knows this.





Haha I don’t think Blossom was cringey, it had some pretty heavy stuff for that era.

Haha I don’t think Blossom was cringey, it had some pretty heavy stuff for that era.

Well, to each his/her own. I remember the pilot as being very edgy, and the premise (including an ex-drug addict brother) was strong. But then it seemed to devolve into catch phrases ("Whoa"). Buuuuuut everyone has his/her own opinion.

Haha I don’t think Blossom was cringey, it had some pretty heavy stuff for that era.

Well, to each his/her own. I remember the pilot as being very edgy, and the premise (including an ex-drug addict brother) was strong. But then it seemed to devolve into catch phrases ("Whoa"). Buuuuuut everyone has his/her own opinion.

I don't remember Blossom being edgy and heavy. Wasn't it mostly about a silly teenage girl talking to the audience and being about fashion and boys? I know I saw Blossom a few times. I never really got into it. The only teen shows I watched back in the 90's were Saved By The Bell The New Class ohno: , California Dreams, a lot of the TNBC block, and USA High.

I mean it usually had “very special eps” like drinking issues, attempted rape, running away with boyfriend, etc that FOL usually had. I view them in the same lenses as someone who viewed both many years after they ended. I’m happy Blossom didn’t get rid of anyone unless you count her mom in the original pilot still living there and her dad being a diff actor :lol:

The only time I've seen Julie Pie be even remotely negative about FOL was the Cast Confessions interview, where I felt the interviewers were digging for negative info. It's still a very good documentary, and we learned things (like one episode being re-taped), but feels very slanted.

Wait what did she say that was negative?

I don't remember Blossom being edgy and heavy. Wasn't it mostly about a silly teenage girl talking to the audience and being about fashion and boys?

I think so. But the pilot had some very adult humor: lots of sex jokes you'd never have heard on, for example, The Facts of Life. It's on YouTube.


I know I saw Blossom a few times. I never really got into it. The only teen shows I watched back in the 90's were Saved By The Bell The New Class ohno: , California Dreams, a lot of the TNBC block, and USA High.

I never got into The New Class, but everybody watched Saved By the Bell: it was a Saturday morning staple in the 1990s, and then TBS reran it 20 times a day in syndication. I never got into California Dreams, but I enjoyed other teen shows. One favorite was Hey Dude on Nickelodeon, which I only got to watch at my grandparents', because they had cable TV. I now live only about 70 miles from where they shot all of the episodes of the show, and would someday love to visit the ruins of the set.

I mean it usually had “very special eps” like drinking issues, attempted rape, running away with boyfriend, etc that FOL usually had. I view them in the same lenses as someone who viewed both many years after they ended.

I have NO problem with Very Special Episodes (that's what The Facts of Life was all about (that and Yooooouuuu....), but it felt more like a lightweight show to me.


I’m happy Blossom didn’t get rid of anyone unless you count her mom in the original pilot still living there and her dad being a diff actor :lol:

Yeah, it's kind of funny seeing Blossom's original parents.

And that may be the longest post you've written here in six months, Lorsie! :lol:

Wait what did she say that was negative?

The producers of that documentary wanted the cast to "talk smack"; Julie Pie talked about the short shorts after Margie made the "kiddie porn" comment.

The producers of that documentary wanted the cast to "talk smack"; Julie Pie talked about the short shorts after Margie made the "kiddie porn" comment.

I've seen Julie Pie talking smack about Margie Peters and Linda Marsh. Or at least to a degree. She said they came from a show with a very small cast, thus didn't know how to handle shows with large casts.

I have NO problem with Very Special Episodes (that's what The Facts of Life was all about (that and Yooooouuuu....), but it felt more like a lightweight show to me.



Yeah, it's kind of funny seeing Blossom's original parents.

And that may be the longest post you've written here in six months, Lorsie! :lol:

Haha 3 sentences? :lol:

I think so. But the pilot had some very adult humor: lots of sex jokes you'd never have heard on, for example, The Facts of Life. It's on YouTube.



I never got into The New Class, but everybody watched Saved By the Bell: it was a Saturday morning staple in the 1990s, and then TBS reran it 20 times a day in syndication. I never got into California Dreams, but I enjoyed other teen shows. One favorite was Hey Dude on Nickelodeon, which I only got to watch at my grandparents', because they had cable TV. I now live only about 70 miles from where they shot all of the episodes of the show, and would someday love to visit the ruins of the set.

Some people thought Facts of Life was cringy. There was some sexual innuendo on the show in the early years. Sue Ann calling Blair the comparison shopper as Blair advocates for premarital sex. Sue Ann telling Blair that it's 11 O'Clock and where is your mother. Sue Ann telling Blair that she (Blair) is walking the streets of NY. Hearing about Blair's father's kinky panties.

There was also lots of innendo in the final episode of Facts of Life where Blair buys Eastland. Sort of surprising that Lisa would allow that considering her boycott of "The First Time" a short time earlier.

The pilot...it's on YouTube.

It's also on the seasons 1 & 2 DVD box set.


Haha I don’t think Blossom was cringey, it had some pretty heavy stuff for that era.

But then it seemed to devolve into catch phrases ("Whoa").

Yeah, Blossom was not cringey. I have seasons 1 & 2 on DVD and it's quite enjoyable. The cameos by fellow NBC-ers like Alf and Mrs. Huxtable are really fun. It's way before the show got all "Whoa!" lol, and Blossom herself is anything but silly. She's very intelligent and mature beyond her years.

Lorsie 'n Eightsie, "Blossom buddies forever!"

"Right! Hats to the end!"

:cheers:

(Psst: "Small Wonder", now that's cringey! :lol:)

Some people thought Facts of Life was cringy.

Many people did, and the critics didn't help that.

For me, Behind Closed Doors hit all the right notes: very thorough, many never-before-seen photos, great choice of interviewees, broad in scope (they got Geri, John, Jenny, and Mack in addition to Julie Pie, Julie Anne, and Felice), and the explanation of Molly sitting in the producers' office, getting the bad news, is the most the producers have ever acknowledged about how devastated Molly was.

The Oral History is GREAT, but I wish it had been released as a video. You get so much more, listening to audio and watching video, which can't be captured in text.

Yeah, BCD shows us several secondary characters and gives us their perspective and their thoughts on the show's history and evolution. It's like a breath of fresh air, we have always had the stars, with BCD we have the side and lots of behind the scenes.

It's also on the seasons 1 & 2 DVD box set.






Yeah, Blossom was not cringey. I have seasons 1 & 2 on DVD and it's quite enjoyable. The cameos by fellow NBC-ers like Alf and Mrs. Huxtable are really fun. It's way before the show got all "Whoa!" lol, and Blossom herself is anything but silly. She's very intelligent and mature beyond her years.

Lorsie 'n Eightsie, "Blossom buddies forever!"

"Right! Hats to the end!"

:cheers:

(Psst: "Small Wonder", now that's cringey! :lol:)

Hahaha! Yeah I’ve only seen a few clips of SW, I doubt I could watch a full Ep :lol:

Hahaha! Yeah I’ve only seen a few clips of SW, I doubt I could watch a full Ep :lol:

I thought it was a train wreck when I first saw it in syndication as a teenager. I immediately called one of my best friends and was like, what am I watching?? lol

A few years ago I did watch the whole series in cable reruns just because it's so bad I had to see it all. But, it does have its loyal followers!

To all of us our own! :cheers:

I thought it was a train wreck when I first saw it in syndication as a teenager. I immediately called one of my best friends and was like, what am I watching?? lol

A few years ago I did watch the whole series in cable reruns just because it's so bad I had to see it all. But, it does have its loyal followers!

To all of us our own! :cheers:

Haha! Well it must’ve had an audience to get 4 seasons.

Haha! Well it must’ve had an audience to get 4 seasons.

Since it was a syndication show, that was probably in its favor. If it had been on a network, who knows how long (or short!) it may have lasted, lol.

Hahaha! Yeah I’ve only seen a few clips of SW, I doubt I could watch a full Ep :lol:

It is worth it just for the cringe levels. They keep their daughter locked in a closet. The milk carton episode is surreal. They serve cake as they talk about the boy's friend being abducted. I don't think I've ever seen a show so out of tune with reality, or how people normally act. It's like the writers were robots. :lol:

BTW, I watched three seasons of that show as a kid. I had no idea what cringe was. We had four channels. We watched what was put in front of us. It was a strange time. I'm sure I would have watched the fourth season as well, but it no longer aired in my area.

I used to be a SW fan. lol

I used to be a SW fan. lol

Hey, when you're a kid, you will watch anything!

I think it was meant to be a throwback to 1960s sitcoms like Bewitched or The Munsters. But even the monsters on The Munsters felt more real than this suburban family.

Hey, when you're a kid, you will watch anything!

I think it was meant to be a throwback to 1960s sitcoms like Bewitched or The Munsters. But even the monsters on The Munsters felt more real than this suburban family.

Hahaha that’s very true. Even when I had over 50 channels I still watched nick when shows I disliked were on

Hahaha that’s very true. Even when I had over 50 channels I still watched nick when shows I disliked were on

Fifty channels!? Luxury!

Why, when I was a kid, we had only one channel, and all it showed was the MacNeil Lehrer Report! It was in black and white in those days, and that's how we liked it! Actually, the white wasn't added until 1923! We had to go to the neighbors' house to watch it. They lived five, no, ten miles away, up on the top of the mountain, in high snows. Those were the good ole days, I tell ya! :lol:

Fifty channels!? Luxury!

Why, when I was a kid, we had only one channel, and all it showed was the MacNeil Lehrer Report! It was in black and white in those days, and that's how we liked it! Actually, the white wasn't added until 1923! We had to go to the neighbors' house to watch it. They lived five, no, ten miles away, up on the top of the mountain, in high snows. Those were the good ole days, I tell ya! :lol:

Hahaha! My parents went to basic cable for 6 months and I only got 10 channels. It was devastating since most of what I watched wasn’t included

Hahaha! My parents went to basic cable for 6 months and I only got 10 channels. It was devastating since most of what I watched wasn’t included

I know the feeling! Losing your favorite shows is never fun... even worse for a kid.