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10-02-2021, 06:15 AM
That's why young people can identify with Tony Soprano (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/29/magazine/sopranos.html)
In a New York Times Magazine essay, Vinny Staley notes how prescient David Chase was with The Sopranos, particularly with how "the show puts all this American social and cultural rot in front of characters wholly incapable of articulating it, if they even notice it." Staley adds that "the show’s depiction of contemporary America as relentlessly banal and hollow is plainly at the core of the current interest in the show, which coincides with an era of crisis across just about every major institution in American life. The Sopranos has a persistent focus on the spiritual and moral vacuum at the center of this country, and is oddly prescient about its coming troubles: the opioid epidemic, the crisis of meritocracy, teenage depression and suicide, fights over the meaning of American history. Even the flight of the ducks who had taken up residence in Tony’s swimming pool — not to mention all the lingering shots on the swaying flora of North Jersey — reads differently now, in an era of unprecedented environmental degradation and ruin." So what compelled David Chase to write a show so pessimistic about America in the mid-1990s, when the country seemed to be on the upswing? “I don’t think I felt like it was a good time,” the 76-year-old Chase tells Staley. “I felt that things were going downhill.” Chase says he had become convinced America was, as Neil Postman’s 1985 polemic put it, “Amusing Ourselves to Death." Chase went on: “There was nothing but crap out there. Crap in every sense. I was beginning to feel that people’s predictions about the dumbing-down of society had happened and were happening, and I started to see everything getting tawdry and cheap.” Staley says there's plenty of reasons why young people wouldn't relate to Tony Soprano -- he's a boomer who laments that American men no longer live up to the ideal of Gary Cooper. "But Tony hates himself too for failing to live up to this ideal," says Staley. "He has given in to psychiatry, to Prozac, to private schools for his kids and the rest of his comfortable exurban lifestyle, and he knows he needs it all. It is this quality of Tony’s — this combination of privilege and self-loathing — that I suspect resonates with a younger generation, whether we want to admit it or not. He’s not so different from us, after all. He has an anxiety disorder. He goes to therapy and takes S.S.R.I.s, but never really improves — not for long, anyway. He has a mild case of impostor syndrome, having skipped some key steps to becoming boss, and he knows that people who hold it against him are sort of right. He’s still proud of his accomplishments in high school. He does psychedelics in the desert, and they change his perspective on things. He often repeats stuff he half-remembers someone smarter than him saying. He’s arguably in an open marriage with Carmela, if a rather lopsided one. He liked listening to 'Don’t Stop Believin’' in 2007. He’s impulsive and selfish and does not go to church, though he does seem open to vaguer notions of spirituality. He wishes his career provided him with meaning, but once he had the career, he discovered that someone had pulled the rug out at some point, and an institution that had been a lodestar to him for his whole life was revealed to be a means of making money and nothing more. Does this sound at all familiar to you? Like many young people, Tony is a world-historically spoiled man who is nevertheless cursed, thanks to timing, to live out the end of an enterprise he knows on some level to be immoral. It gives him panic attacks, but he’s powerless to find a way out. Thus trapped — and depressed — it’s not so hard for him to allow himself a few passes, to refuse to become better because the world is so rotten anyway. Tony’s predicament was once his to suffer alone, but history has unfolded in such a way as to render his condition nearly universal. And if people still see a monster in Tony, then the monster is themselves: a twisted reflection of a generation whose awakening to the structures that control them came in tandem with a growing aversion to personal accountability in the face of these systems."
ALSO:
Sopranos prequel movie The Many Saints of Newark should've been a TV show (https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2021/09/sopranos-prequel-many-saints-of-newark-movie-review/620228/): "Even a simple question about The Many Saints of Newark is damning: Would a non-Sopranos viewer bother watching it?" says David Sims. "The film is narrated by the TV-show character Christopher Moltisanti (played by Michael Imperioli), who, within minutes, references a crucial plot point about his arc on the series that was revealed in one of the final episodes. Fans will remember the story line; newcomers, I imagine, will be baffled. The Many Saints of Newark is more of a curious side project than a distinct work. That was probably inevitable: The Sopranos is too sprawling for a straightforward prequel treatment, and Chase is too ambitious a writer to follow a known formula. The result is a movie that, ironically, might have functioned better as a TV show."
Drea de Matteo reveals she successfully fought to have a scene cut that would've telegraphed Adriana's shocking end (https://www.indiewire.com/2021/10/drea-de-matteo-cut-sopranos-scene-changed-adriana-death-1234668690/): “There was a scene shot for that episode where Christopher is hysterically crying and tells Tony everything and Tony says, ‘I’ll handle it,'” de Matteo says in a Vulture Q&A (https://www.vulture.com/article/drea-de-matteo-the-sopranos-long-term-parking-adriana.html). “I went to the writers and said that you can’t air it because then everyone will know that Adriana is walking into her own death. We needed her to go out with a bang, and we owe her that much. Stevie backed me, but I’m not sure about Michael (Imperioli). And they took out the scene because they realized it was a better way to keep people on the edge of their seats and used the scene as a flashback in the next season.”
Steven Van Zandt says James Gandolfini was playing an exaggerated version of David Chase, complete with mother issues (https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2021/09/steven-van-zandt-memoir-excerpt-the-sopranos): "The Sopranos was the most effective therapy David could get!" Van Zandt explains in his memoir, describing how Chase worked Gandfolini hard.
David Chase confirms that Les Moonves saw The Sopranos script and asked that the psychiatry be removed (https://www.lamag.com/culturefiles/david-chase-sopranos-many-saints-of-newark/): "I had a two-year deal at Lorimar TV that Les organized," says Chase, adding: "He said, 'Look, I don’t mind the robbing and the killing and all that, but does he have to go to a psychiatrist? Is he going to take Prozac? Really? Does he have to do that?' And I said, 'Yes,' and he said, 'Well, OK, then—no, thank you.'"
Recalling the 12 defining scenes of The Sopranos (https://www.theringer.com/tv/2021/9/30/22701010/sopranos-best-scenes-ranking-top-moments)
Ranking the best Sopranos episodes (https://sopranos.theringer.com/)
In a New York Times Magazine essay, Vinny Staley notes how prescient David Chase was with The Sopranos, particularly with how "the show puts all this American social and cultural rot in front of characters wholly incapable of articulating it, if they even notice it." Staley adds that "the show’s depiction of contemporary America as relentlessly banal and hollow is plainly at the core of the current interest in the show, which coincides with an era of crisis across just about every major institution in American life. The Sopranos has a persistent focus on the spiritual and moral vacuum at the center of this country, and is oddly prescient about its coming troubles: the opioid epidemic, the crisis of meritocracy, teenage depression and suicide, fights over the meaning of American history. Even the flight of the ducks who had taken up residence in Tony’s swimming pool — not to mention all the lingering shots on the swaying flora of North Jersey — reads differently now, in an era of unprecedented environmental degradation and ruin." So what compelled David Chase to write a show so pessimistic about America in the mid-1990s, when the country seemed to be on the upswing? “I don’t think I felt like it was a good time,” the 76-year-old Chase tells Staley. “I felt that things were going downhill.” Chase says he had become convinced America was, as Neil Postman’s 1985 polemic put it, “Amusing Ourselves to Death." Chase went on: “There was nothing but crap out there. Crap in every sense. I was beginning to feel that people’s predictions about the dumbing-down of society had happened and were happening, and I started to see everything getting tawdry and cheap.” Staley says there's plenty of reasons why young people wouldn't relate to Tony Soprano -- he's a boomer who laments that American men no longer live up to the ideal of Gary Cooper. "But Tony hates himself too for failing to live up to this ideal," says Staley. "He has given in to psychiatry, to Prozac, to private schools for his kids and the rest of his comfortable exurban lifestyle, and he knows he needs it all. It is this quality of Tony’s — this combination of privilege and self-loathing — that I suspect resonates with a younger generation, whether we want to admit it or not. He’s not so different from us, after all. He has an anxiety disorder. He goes to therapy and takes S.S.R.I.s, but never really improves — not for long, anyway. He has a mild case of impostor syndrome, having skipped some key steps to becoming boss, and he knows that people who hold it against him are sort of right. He’s still proud of his accomplishments in high school. He does psychedelics in the desert, and they change his perspective on things. He often repeats stuff he half-remembers someone smarter than him saying. He’s arguably in an open marriage with Carmela, if a rather lopsided one. He liked listening to 'Don’t Stop Believin’' in 2007. He’s impulsive and selfish and does not go to church, though he does seem open to vaguer notions of spirituality. He wishes his career provided him with meaning, but once he had the career, he discovered that someone had pulled the rug out at some point, and an institution that had been a lodestar to him for his whole life was revealed to be a means of making money and nothing more. Does this sound at all familiar to you? Like many young people, Tony is a world-historically spoiled man who is nevertheless cursed, thanks to timing, to live out the end of an enterprise he knows on some level to be immoral. It gives him panic attacks, but he’s powerless to find a way out. Thus trapped — and depressed — it’s not so hard for him to allow himself a few passes, to refuse to become better because the world is so rotten anyway. Tony’s predicament was once his to suffer alone, but history has unfolded in such a way as to render his condition nearly universal. And if people still see a monster in Tony, then the monster is themselves: a twisted reflection of a generation whose awakening to the structures that control them came in tandem with a growing aversion to personal accountability in the face of these systems."
ALSO:
Sopranos prequel movie The Many Saints of Newark should've been a TV show (https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2021/09/sopranos-prequel-many-saints-of-newark-movie-review/620228/): "Even a simple question about The Many Saints of Newark is damning: Would a non-Sopranos viewer bother watching it?" says David Sims. "The film is narrated by the TV-show character Christopher Moltisanti (played by Michael Imperioli), who, within minutes, references a crucial plot point about his arc on the series that was revealed in one of the final episodes. Fans will remember the story line; newcomers, I imagine, will be baffled. The Many Saints of Newark is more of a curious side project than a distinct work. That was probably inevitable: The Sopranos is too sprawling for a straightforward prequel treatment, and Chase is too ambitious a writer to follow a known formula. The result is a movie that, ironically, might have functioned better as a TV show."
Drea de Matteo reveals she successfully fought to have a scene cut that would've telegraphed Adriana's shocking end (https://www.indiewire.com/2021/10/drea-de-matteo-cut-sopranos-scene-changed-adriana-death-1234668690/): “There was a scene shot for that episode where Christopher is hysterically crying and tells Tony everything and Tony says, ‘I’ll handle it,'” de Matteo says in a Vulture Q&A (https://www.vulture.com/article/drea-de-matteo-the-sopranos-long-term-parking-adriana.html). “I went to the writers and said that you can’t air it because then everyone will know that Adriana is walking into her own death. We needed her to go out with a bang, and we owe her that much. Stevie backed me, but I’m not sure about Michael (Imperioli). And they took out the scene because they realized it was a better way to keep people on the edge of their seats and used the scene as a flashback in the next season.”
Steven Van Zandt says James Gandolfini was playing an exaggerated version of David Chase, complete with mother issues (https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2021/09/steven-van-zandt-memoir-excerpt-the-sopranos): "The Sopranos was the most effective therapy David could get!" Van Zandt explains in his memoir, describing how Chase worked Gandfolini hard.
David Chase confirms that Les Moonves saw The Sopranos script and asked that the psychiatry be removed (https://www.lamag.com/culturefiles/david-chase-sopranos-many-saints-of-newark/): "I had a two-year deal at Lorimar TV that Les organized," says Chase, adding: "He said, 'Look, I don’t mind the robbing and the killing and all that, but does he have to go to a psychiatrist? Is he going to take Prozac? Really? Does he have to do that?' And I said, 'Yes,' and he said, 'Well, OK, then—no, thank you.'"
Recalling the 12 defining scenes of The Sopranos (https://www.theringer.com/tv/2021/9/30/22701010/sopranos-best-scenes-ranking-top-moments)
Ranking the best Sopranos episodes (https://sopranos.theringer.com/)