View Full Version : Agnes Moorehead being kinda betchy in this article
Arfies 09-03-2021, 10:28 PM This is from the Oct. 1967 issue of TV Radio Show with the tawdry title "Liz Montgomery and Her Husbands: The Feud She Can't Stop!"
This was one of those "gossip rags" from back in the day where sometimes articles were concocted out of whole cloth, and stars would read "interviews" with themselves that never happened. What's interesting about this one is that it was in Agnes Moorehead's personal scrapbooks, which one wouldn't expect if it wasn't real. And how she felt about York and Montgomery does match the correspondence she had with her personal secretary (which was kinda betchy towards Liz's acting ability; she came around eventually, but not at this point. "I have heard that Elizabeth has definite potential"- ouch). It's not something I think she would've said publicly (too classy for that?) even though it does match what she said privately at the time, so where did this author get the leaks from? And if that was true, was the other stuff in this article true as well? For example, if Dick York's chair wire accident happened, which episode would that have been? He did take a nasty fall during season 3's "Sam's Spooky Chair" but wasn't suspended up in the air for that.
Some takeaways: Harry Ackerman is quoted as saying, "She plays herself. Elizabeth has a pixie-like way of behaving... when she's in good humor. We call it 'Samantha'."
Agnes Moorehead's full quote is, "I've never seen her act (Elizabeth), This role she does in the show could hardly be classified as acting, now could it? Well... it couldn't! Being cute and making childish little faces requires very little discipline or creative energy. However, I have heard that Elizabeth has definite potential." (I personally think Montgomery was a fine actress). Then Agnes says, "If you ask me, the most demanding role is that of Darrin, Samantha's mortal husband. This part demands acting, not comedy antics and cute mannerisms. Sustaining this character is darned hard work. It is difficult to play one who reacts naturally to unnatural elements surrounding him. It is the actor at work here, not the comedian. Dick York does a masterful piece of acting. He makes the show work. Few people see this." Then, "Miss Moorehead's tart comment prompted questions about why so little attention is given to Dick, and revived rumors of a cool feeling between Dick, on one side, and Liz Montgomery and her husband, on the other."
I don't think they realized how much pain he was in. Dick (if he did say this to this interviewer; he never complained about it but apparently would talk about it when asked) says, "It hurts like hell most of the time, but I take pills to kill the pain. Sometimes they work better than other times. I've had it for years... Now it's [his back] is a mess. I'll be lucky if..." he stops and smiles. [lucky if what? If he finishes the series?] "Trouble with me, I'm a hypochondriac. That's what Bill Asher says. Naturally Elizabeth agrees with him."
I was under the impression that York's back problem and pain pills were kept more hush-hush at the time but I guess not.
Arfies 09-03-2021, 10:41 PM Second chunk:
Arfies 09-03-2021, 11:00 PM Hopefully this reads all right.
Arfies 09-03-2021, 11:03 PM Last page.
RetroGuy2000 09-04-2021, 01:32 AM Wow! That's very interesting. Never knew the Asher/York spat was public knowledge!
Thanks Arfies!
Also... that Agnes quote... ouch!
Arfies 09-04-2021, 08:21 AM Even if the "gossip rag" is true and the Ashers didn't realize the extent of the pain he was in, William Asher did fight to keep him on the show despite his health problems (and if William Froug is correct, Elizabeth's objections). He knew how good he was for the show, at least.
Also, it's nice that York finally got an Emmy nomination after this (the 1967-68 season). Maybe this article helped with that. I really think he should've gotten one especially in the second season- that was his best work, IMO, with "Divided He Falls," "The Joker is a Card," and more. I wonder if the (reported) cancelled publicity campaign was for the second season when they took all those pictures of Darrin and the baby doll, because I don't think those were used much.
Agnes Moorehead REALLY liked Dick York, both on a professional and personal level.
Arfies 09-08-2021, 10:07 PM I think I found the source of the leak, as pointed out by Chuck T. years ago: Bob Palmer, Screen Gems publicist. On page 276 of "Dreaming of Jeannie," he says, matching what's in the above article:
"Agnes Moorehead once said to me that [York] was the one who really held the show together," Palmer says. "And that he was the least appreciated, because the hardest job in the world is to react to crazy situations in a believable way. He made Darrin so believable. I don't think Elizabeth Montgomery ever fully appreciated his contribution. Agnes would get impatient with Elizabeth and she didn't like the way they treated Dick York," says Palmer. "She thought Elizabeth was a bit of a 'spoiled little girl,' as she put it."
So judging by that quote, it's probably Palmer who is the unnamed "interviewer" in the article that fed Charles Lido that information. It doesn't really make Montgomery or Moorehead look very good, but I guess even bad publicity is still publicity?
RetroGuy2000 09-09-2021, 01:46 AM I think I found the source of the leak, as pointed out by Chuck T. years ago: Bob Palmer, Screen Gems publicist. On page 276 of "Dreaming of Jeannie," he says, matching what's in the above article:
"Agnes Moorehead once said to me that [York] was the one who really held the show together," Palmer says. "And that he was the least appreciated, because the hardest job in the world is to react to crazy situations in a believable way. He made Darrin so believable. I don't think Elizabeth Montgomery ever fully appreciated his contribution. Agnes would get impatient with Elizabeth and she didn't like the way they treated Dick York," says Palmer. "She thought Elizabeth was a bit of a 'spoiled little girl,' as she put it."
So judging by that quote, it's probably Palmer who is the unnamed "interviewer" in the article that fed Charles Lido that information. It doesn't really make Montgomery or Moorehead look very good, but I guess even bad publicity is still publicity?
I think it makes them look human, faults and all. Yes, Elizabeth comes across as spoiled. Yes, Agnes comes across a bit two-faced. But those two ladies managed to work together for eight years nonetheless. Sure appreciate this rare insight... and without any edits.
Willbo 09-09-2021, 08:43 AM This was a very good, unedited article. It shows that they are all humans with opinions, feelings and even pettiness. So common in most work places. I agree with AM comments about DY's Darrin character. He definitely had the most challenging role when it came to acting. I am glad Bill Asher finally went to bat for Dick at the end but it was to late.
Arfies 09-09-2021, 11:28 AM You're welcome! And yes, I still enjoy the whole cast. They're mere mortals like the rest of us, after all.
Arfies 09-09-2021, 11:56 AM I think one of the more emotional parts of William Asher's Television Academy interview (https://interviews.televisionacademy.com/interviews/william-asher#interview-clips) that I didn't know before watching the whole thing was that after Dick's seizure in season 5, York went into a coma at the hospital, and someone suggested that the right person to talk Dick out of his coma was Bill. There was a nurse there crying. Asher had already spoken to York's wife Joan, who begged him to not let Dick go back to work because it was killing him. So Asher went there to the hospital for hours and talked to York, repeating "we won't fire you, you can have your job back after you're out of the hospital," etc. (He said it was a promise he couldn't keep but knew he had to say something to get him out of the coma). It worked, Dick woke up, and that's when Bill said, "What do you want to do, Dick? Do you want to quit?" And Dick replied, "If it's all right with you, Billy," and they hugged for the first time.
Arfies 09-13-2021, 05:43 PM But yes; happy to post the entire (unedited!) article.
RetroGuy2000 09-13-2021, 05:55 PM I think one of the more emotional parts of William Asher's Television Academy interview (https://interviews.televisionacademy.com/interviews/william-asher#interview-clips) that I didn't know before watching the whole thing was that after Dick's seizure in season 5, York went into a coma at the hospital, and someone suggested that the right person to talk Dick out of his coma was Bill. There was a nurse there crying. Asher had already spoken to York's wife Joan, who begged him to not let Dick go back to work because it was killing him. So Asher went there to the hospital for hours and talked to York, repeating "we won't fire you, you can have your job back after you're out of the hospital," etc. (He said it was a promise he couldn't keep but knew he had to say something to get him out of the coma). It worked, Dick woke up, and that's when Bill said, "What do you want to do, Dick? Do you want to quit?" And Dick replied, "If it's all right with you, Billy," and they hugged for the first time.
That's really heartwarming!
Dick York was Darrin 09-27-2021, 01:32 AM I notice there is a poster missing from this thread? Perhaps it confirms something she has denied?
It may be a gossip rag, but there are elements of the story that have been corroborated by the historical record, so there is that.
Dick York was Darrin 09-27-2021, 01:36 AM I think I found the source of the leak, as pointed out by Chuck T. years ago: Bob Palmer, Screen Gems publicist. On page 276 of "Dreaming of Jeannie," he says, matching what's in the above article:
"Agnes Moorehead once said to me that [York] was the one who really held the show together," Palmer says. "And that he was the least appreciated, because the hardest job in the world is to react to crazy situations in a believable way. He made Darrin so believable. I don't think Elizabeth Montgomery ever fully appreciated his contribution. Agnes would get impatient with Elizabeth and she didn't like the way they treated Dick York," says Palmer. "She thought Elizabeth was a bit of a 'spoiled little girl,' as she put it."
So judging by that quote, it's probably Palmer who is the unnamed "interviewer" in the article that fed Charles Lido that information. It doesn't really make Montgomery or Moorehead look very good, but I guess even bad publicity is still publicity?
This kind of solidifies the power struggle theory, where it is clear Elizabeth Montgomery did not want to share the spotlight with York, so she consistently downplayed his importance to the show. To the point of wanting to get rid of him.
And then they put an inferior actor (Dick Sargent) in the role and the show dropped like a rock...
Yep, I knew it...
Arfies 11-02-2021, 04:24 AM I can't vouch for the "power struggle" idea. Maybe there was, maybe there wasn't. Everything is supposition. Everyone involved has been gone for years. I still like the whole cast.
Speaking of "This was one of those "gossip rags" from back in the day where sometimes articles were concocted out of whole cloth, and stars would read "interviews" with themselves that never happened": there was a later article that seems to have been ripped from this one, with similar phrases used, similar events mentioned word for word, and oddly enough, a similar timeline (an accident referred to in the above Oct. 1967 article as happening "last spring" is now referred to as "spring" in March 1969... magic!), with a similar tawdry title but from the other side: it was called "Mrs. Dick York Reveals - WHY SHE WILL NEVER BE FRIENDS WITH HER HUSBAND'S OTHER WIFE!" by Rodger Winelander, TV Picture Life, March 1969.
Seriously; read the above photographed "Liz Montgomery and Her Husbands: The Feud She Can't Stop!" TV Radio Show article from 1967 (https://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=404185) first, then the below link from one and a half years later in 1969. It kind of seems like plagiarism, not to mention the fact that the person "interviewed" for it said there wasn't one.
It had been posted to harpiesbizarre.com a long time ago (http://web.archive.org/web/20030808171754/http://www.harpiesbizarre.com/mrsyorkreveals.htm), when Joan York was still alive and reading the message boards. She said this "interview" with her literally never happened, so they took it down. Besides, why would a magazine in March 1969 print an article about the Yorks when Dick York was already gone and replaced in January 1969? I know there's some time between writing an article and it being published, but that's odd. (Unless... Winelander didn't know York was gone, didn't interview anyone for real himself, dusted off the Oct. 1967 article, and decided to get creative, figuring no one would notice).
There is a certain poster that used to post here and other places excerpts from this likely plagiarized and apparently fake "interview" as if it were gospel, in very, very long posts. If you've been around a while, you'll recognize it and the poster.
Arfies 11-03-2021, 02:45 PM Something else I noticed was ripped off from the Oct. 1967 article into the March 1969 one: the claim that Dick York had never been nominated for an Emmy. This was true in Oct. 1967, but then he was nominated for the 1967-68 season. So it was no longer true in 1969, yet the second article doesn’t do any updating of that fact. The second article is also the only “source” that claims York’s representatives did a “power grab” for more money which is sometimes repeated by certain posters as gospel, but as shown, it’s really not a reliable article given the apparent plagiarism and Joan York’s statement that this “interview” literally never happened.
Arfies 11-03-2021, 05:42 PM A similar story of how you can't trust tabloids and should just talk to the person in question yourself to verify things is the Nancy Fox situation. It was asserted previously that William Asher had an affair with Nancy Fox before Elizabeth Montgomery had an affair in retaliation of that with Richard Michaels.
But according to poster jimknut who went out, found, and actually talked to Nancy Fox herself (https://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=261184&highlight=%22Nancy+fox%22&page=7), she was living on the East Coast in the early 1970s, was invited out to the West Coast by Elizabeth Montgomery, and didn't even know Asher until he and Elizabeth had already separated. According to Fox, when she'd attend functions with Asher and Paul Lynde to promote "Temperatures Rising," the tabloids would literally cut Paul Lynde out of the picture and just show Fox and Asher to insinuate an affair.
I'm ashamed that I once thought the Nancy Fox/William Asher thing was true.
jimknut 11-30-2021, 06:32 PM Thank you for the comments regarding Nancy Fox. I may note that some time ago I told Herbie J. Pilato that some jackass who goes by the name of “Larry Tate” was making smutty and unverified comments about William Asher and Nancy. Herbie informed me of this person’s real name (which I will not mention here) and told me he was the primary research assistant on his (Herbie’s) Elizabeth Montgomery biography. I may note also that Herbie’s bio was harshly criticized after it was published for his hagiographic aura of Montgomery, his repetitiveness, his misspellings, and his over-reliance on gossip and fan magazine fluff. This is a pity, since Herbie is a morally decent gentleman and his book was a sincere effort to write about an actress he truly admires. (Since its publication, Herbie did a follow-up volume, The Essential Elizabeth Montgomery: A Guide to Her Magical Performances, which is better organized and more informative.)
Regarding the afore-mentioned “Larry Tate”, I haven’t seen him posting anything on the internet in several years. This is fine with me. I have no ill will against him, but his lengthy, belligerent, rambling, barely coherent comments peppered with nasty (and extremely childish) insults do not belong in any chatline.
Mr. Television 11-30-2021, 06:44 PM Thank you for the comments regarding Nancy Fox. I may note that some time ago I told Herbie J. Pilato that some jackass who goes by the name of “Larry Tate” was making smutty and unverified comments about William Asher and Nancy. Herbie informed me of this person’s real name (which I will not mention here) and told me he was the primary research assistant on Herbie’s Elizabeth Montgomery biography. I may note also that Herbie’s bio was harshly criticized after it was published for his hagiographic aura of Montgomery, his receptiveness, his misspellings, and his over-reliance on gossip and fan magazine fluff. This is a pity, since Herbie is a morally decent gentleman and his book was a sincere effort to write about an actress he truly admires. (Since it’s publication, Herbie did a follow-up volume, "The Essential Elizabeth Montgomery: A Guide to Her Magical Performances", which is better organized and more informative.)
Regarding the afore-mentioned “Larry Tate”, I haven’t seen him posting anything on the internet in several years. This is fine with me. I have no ill will against him, but his lengthy, belligerent, rambling, barely coherent comments peppered with nasty (and extremely childish) insults do not belong in any chatline.
Totally agree.
Dick York was Darrin 11-30-2021, 08:02 PM Regarding the afore-mentioned “Larry Tate”, I haven’t seen him posting anything on the internet in several years. This is fine with me. I have no ill will against him, but his lengthy, belligerent, rambling, barely coherent comments peppered with nasty (and extremely childish) insults do not belong in any chatline.
His profile says he has been suspended. That might account for his lack of posting on this site.
jimknut 11-30-2021, 09:11 PM In regards to Nancy Fox I offer a follow-up.
Since my original posting from a few years ago I have been in contact with Rev. Peter Ackerman, the son of the late Harry Ackerman, the executive producer of Bewitched and Temperatures Rising, and his widow, the lovely actress Elinor Donahue. Peter, who is now an Episcopalian minister, had a minor career as a child actor. He appeared in the Christmas episode of Temperatures Rising. Peter remembered Nancy Fox as an extremely nice young lady. He stated that she and Bill Asher were often seen together. However, he assured me that it was undoubtably a chaste relationship as Nancy comes from a very religious background and was raised in a morally upright household.
This solidifies the conclusions to my research.
Here’s a favorite picture of Nancy, showing what a beautiful young lady she was back in the days of Temperatures Rising:
https://www.sitcomsonline.com/photopost/showphoto.php/photo/342088/cat/1261
She’s still quite lovely today.
Arfies 12-02-2021, 03:31 PM Regarding the afore-mentioned “Larry Tate”, I haven’t seen him posting anything on the internet in several years. This is fine with me. I have no ill will against him, but his lengthy, belligerent, rambling, barely coherent comments peppered with nasty (and extremely childish) insults do not belong in any chatline.
Yes, I know who it is- it's the same poster who besides claiming the Nancy Fox thing, claimed the "Dick York was doing a power grab" thing, also from tabloids (from exactly one article that wasn't even real, as I mentioned). Their writing style is very distinctive and I can recognize them anywhere.
tcr1701 12-02-2021, 06:15 PM Yes, I know who it is- it's the same poster who besides claiming the Nancy Fox thing, claimed the "Dick York was doing a power grab" thing, also from tabloids (from exactly one article that wasn't even real, as I mentioned). Their writing style is very distinctive and I can recognize them anywhere.
I left this board for few months because of the nonsensical vitriol and preposterous assertions from one person. I got tired of reading it over and over and and and I just would not respond to those posts - despite personal attacks. It was taking all the fun out of Bewitched.
But I am glad you been adding some genuine information and bringing in healthy discussions again. It's good to see some of these old articles again. Many were in my memory but not the specifics. It is a shame that the Montgomery biography was based on so many tabloid articles, but sadly it reads like that it was.
I think Elizabeth did some really fine acting in Bewitched with the faces she made (as Agnes mentioned) really adding to the scenes. It made it a sitcom nd not melodrama. But had genuine moments of drama (especial in seasons 1 and 2). The entire original cast (including York and Alice Pearce) really elevated the entire show. It was initially perfectly cast. It was a shame to lose two of the most talented (York and Pearce), but that was fate more than anything nasty.
I knew York never made any power grab. Just as I know he never harassed Liz on set or anywhere. Nor do I find his comments about her "creepy" when he immediately said "this is the kind of thing that sells books" and he had planned to send it to Liz before publishing.
jimknut 12-02-2021, 07:19 PM I will be writing to Nancy Fox and wishing her a Merry Christmas, which I wish to all of you out there.
… and, yes, I wish it as well to "Larry Tate".
Arfies 12-03-2021, 03:18 AM I left this board for few months because of the nonsensical vitriol and preposterous assertions from one person. I got tired of reading it over and over and and and I just would not respond to those posts - despite personal attacks. It was taking all the fun out of Bewitched.
Yes; I was gone from this board for years and when I came back to read various threads, I saw the "Larry Tate" and "Monliz" drama and... yikes!
But I am glad you been adding some genuine information and bringing in healthy discussions again. It's good to see some of these old articles again.
Happy to do it!
RetroGuy2000 12-03-2021, 03:40 AM I left this board for few months because of the nonsensical vitriol and preposterous assertions from one person. I got tired of reading it over and over and and and I just would not respond to those posts - despite personal attacks. It was taking all the fun out of Bewitched.
But I am glad you been adding some genuine information and bringing in healthy discussions again. It's good to see some of these old articles again. Many were in my memory but not the specifics. It is a shame that the Montgomery biography was based on so many tabloid articles, but sadly it reads like that it was.
I think Elizabeth did some really fine acting in Bewitched with the faces she made (as Agnes mentioned) really adding to the scenes. It made it a sitcom nd not melodrama. But had genuine moments of drama (especial in seasons 1 and 2). The entire original cast (including York and Alice Pearce) really elevated the entire show. It was initially perfectly cast. It was a shame to lose two of the most talented (York and Pearce), but that was fate more than anything nasty.
I knew York never made any power grab. Just as I know he never harassed Liz on set or anywhere. Nor do I find his comments about her "creepy" when he immediately said "this is the kind of thing that sells books" and he had planned to send it to Liz before publishing.
Glad you have returned, TCR. Yeah, that was a very strange time on these boards. Seems over now.
Arfies 12-03-2021, 03:00 PM Glad you have returned, TCR. Yeah, that was a very strange time on these boards. Seems over now.
I think you spoke too soon...
RetroGuy2000 12-03-2021, 03:44 PM I think you spoke too soon...
Yep! :lol:
Arfies 12-03-2021, 07:39 PM Some people really have nothing better to do!
tcr1701 12-03-2021, 08:39 PM Glad you have returned, TCR. Yeah, that was a very strange time on these boards. Seems over now.
Thank you that. How nice.
Arfies 12-26-2021, 02:21 AM I will be writing to Nancy Fox and wishing her a Merry Christmas, which I wish to all of you out there.
… and, yes, I wish it as well to "Larry Tate".
Merry Christmas!
Arfies 12-28-2021, 11:26 AM In this thread (https://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showpost.php?p=5986914&postcount=22), I tried to figure out where this article's mention of Dick York's spine being damaged further by a chair wire snapping midair, holding up production for "six weeks," might've been.
It's difficult to tell.
tcr1701 12-29-2021, 02:17 PM In this thread (https://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showpost.php?p=5986914&postcount=22), I tried to figure out where this article's mention of Dick York's spine being damaged further by a chair wire snapping midair, holding up production for "six weeks," might've been.
It's difficult to tell.
I don't believe York ever referred to this incident. Interestingly enough, the metal seat on wires was used on an episode of I Dream of Jeannie by Barbara Eden ("A Secretary is Not a Toy").
But that article discussing the tone of the show that Asher controlled is interesting. And could certainly be true since David White said that he refused to appear on Tabitha TV series with Asher because he felt the Ashers never appreciated him - at least per Herbie Pilato on this article
https://www.closerweekly.com/posts/heres-what-happened-to-bewitched-star-david-white/
One point Herbie emphasizes is that David “ultimately felt he was never fully appreciated on the show. Years later, when Bill Asher was producing the Tabitha series, David refused Bill’s request to make an appearance as Larry on that show. ‘I didn’t need the money,’ he told me. ‘And I simply was not going to do it.’”
Arfies 12-30-2021, 09:35 AM I don't think he mentioned it either (besides this article). I do remember reading a comment from Elizabeth Montgomery where she was interviewed on some show (Merv Griffin maybe?) where she was asked if anyone was ever injured on the set of "Bewitched" due to the special effects and whatnot. She said something like, "Yes, but we can't talk about that!"
Or maybe it referred to things like the pyrotechnics burning Bernard Fox's butt (as he referred to it!)
There was a YouTube comment from someone who met David White while working at a hospital he was going to for cardiac rehab in the mid-1980s, and they became lunch buddies. They said: "David was VERY protective of Dick York. I asked him for his thoughts about what happened to York and he low-key gave me a piece of his mind about how awful Hollywood and the media had been to York. He wasn’t mean—he was polite to me about it—but I could tell he was offended I’d even asked. I totally respected his complete loyalty and love for York. Again, he was very protective of him. David said he was such a great guy, a very good man and a superlative actor. You know, the world was a better place with his friend Dick in it. He was on the verge of crying when he spoke of York and his passing [sic; York died in 1992]. It was a very touching and sweet moment; I’ll never forget it. David White was a kind and sweet man, with a finely honed, wicked sense of humor. He could dish it out … my kinda guy! Loved him."
MichaelKeith 03-15-2022, 05:31 PM Arfies, so nice to read the information you wrote about David White. Thanks for sharing it.
MichaelKeith 01-11-2023, 11:32 AM I know it's water under the bridge for a long time now, but I wish like heck that Dick York had used a stunt double for the scene where that trick wired chair gave way. I know he was trying to be a team player, but with his bad back, York should have taken better care of potential situations that could aggravate that condition. And a trick wired chair that is supposed to collapse is an accident waiting to happen. Just think if York had been more careful about his back, he may not have been in quite so much pain and he just might have faired better in terms of staying with the show for its entire run.
Arfies 01-11-2023, 12:15 PM Yeah. Although York did pass along his own experience to young actors when he taught the small acting class in California- "ACTORS DO NOT DO STUNTS!!" as described here: https://atomicjunkshop.com/dick-york-after-bewitched/
MichaelKeith 01-11-2023, 04:12 PM Thanks for sharing the link to that article, Arfies. Interesting. I really like and respect Dick York. I've seen him in several TV shows and movies and he always does a great job. And a good human being, to boot.
Willbo 01-11-2023, 06:31 PM That is great what David White said about Dick York. He was a true friend. DY was a remarkable human being and DW the same.
MichaelKeith 01-12-2023, 09:29 AM Yeah, David White seems like a very good guy! Glad to see several of the cast really supporting DY. Agnes M, David W, and Sandra Gould who played the second Mrs. Kravitz also spoke fondly of DY.
stevea 01-12-2023, 09:39 AM Great to hear some real-life stories about David White. We realize the characters are just jobs for actors, but maybe it gets to you playing a money-grubbing guy like Larry Tate for eight years.
ansara1 02-16-2023, 03:06 PM I don't think he mentioned it either (besides this article). I do remember reading a comment from Elizabeth Montgomery where she was interviewed on some show (Merv Griffin maybe?) where she was asked if anyone was ever injured on the set of "Bewitched" due to the special effects and whatnot. She said something like, "Yes, but we can't talk about that!"
Or maybe it referred to things like the pyrotechnics burning Bernard Fox's butt (as he referred to it!)
There was a YouTube comment from someone who met David White while working at a hospital he was going to for cardiac rehab in the mid-1980s, and they became lunch buddies. They said: "David was VERY protective of Dick York. I asked him for his thoughts about what happened to York and he low-key gave me a piece of his mind about how awful Hollywood and the media had been to York. He wasn’t mean—he was polite to me about it—but I could tell he was offended I’d even asked. I totally respected his complete loyalty and love for York. Again, he was very protective of him. David said he was such a great guy, a very good man and a superlative actor. You know, the world was a better place with his friend Dick in it. He was on the verge of crying when he spoke of York and his passing [sic; York died in 1992]. It was a very touching and sweet moment; I’ll never forget it. David White was a kind and sweet man, with a finely honed, wicked sense of humor. He could dish it out … my kinda guy! Loved him."
This is very nice, but a little confusing when it states that David White "was on the verge of crying when he spoke of York and his passing." David White died Nov. 27, 1990 and Dick York passed away Feb. 20, 1992.
Arfies 02-21-2023, 12:46 PM This is very nice, but a little confusing when it states that David White "was on the verge of crying when he spoke of York and his passing." David White died Nov. 27, 1990 and Dick York passed away Feb. 20, 1992.
Yes; hence the "sic." I wonder if White assumed York had died when he had just moved to Michigan and maybe lost touch with him.
ansara1 02-21-2023, 01:25 PM Good question
Arfies 11-01-2023, 03:23 AM Info for how I got this article: I remembered Chuck T (Charles Tranberg) referring to it a long time ago on harpiesbizarre.com (which had the BEST message board back in the day! A shame the Google algorithm buried it, because it's hands down the best Bewitched site). I searched eBay for the magazine the article was in, paid real money for it (so nobody steal it, K?), took pictures, and posted it here for posterity.
tcr1701 11-01-2023, 06:37 PM Info for how I got this article: I remembered Chuck T (Charles Tranberg) referring to it a long time ago on harpiesbizarre.com (which had the BEST message board back in the day! A shame the Google algorithm buried it, because it's hands down the best Bewitched site). I searched eBay for the magazine the article was in, paid real money for it (so nobody steal it, K?), took pictures, and posted it here for posterity.
Yes, the fandom on Bewitched died down about 10 years ago (maybe al little less). Harpies and one of the I Dream of Jeannie forums were my favorites, but the fandom dried up. But I've seen fandom on almost everything dry up from Bewitched to Star Wars and everything in between. Times changed.
Arfies 11-06-2023, 05:48 AM The fandom's still there, with the same people, even. Everything just moved to Facebook. The platform makes it much harder to have topical conversations, though.
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