View Full Version : Why does Eddie call Wally Sam, Clyde and Gladys?
Jack Gomez 09-03-2021, 02:18 PM What is the meaning behind these names? I mean I know it's kind of an insuIt or nickname towards your friend but why those names in particular? I think I've heard this done in other shows and movies too from the 50s and 60s, but it disappeared in culture in the following decades.
GentlemanJim 09-03-2021, 03:29 PM They are condescending terms of affection. Going back to the "beat" culture,.. "Clyde" was a sobriquet for a male who was "not hip". Such as a bland outcast trying to fit in with the "in crowd".
Sam in that period was a nick for "common man", someone who does not stand out in any particular way. It's a way of marginalizing a person as "insignificant"
Not sure about "Gladys"....
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Jack Gomez 09-03-2021, 04:48 PM Thanks for the info! I appreciate it. The definitions for Sam and Clyde now make a whole lot of sense coming from Eddie. The Gladys one is from the episode Eddie The Businessman in the 6th season. I'm sure it must mean something similar, although Gladys is a female name so it is kind of a head scratcher. Maybe Eddie made that one up himself. Lol
vitoscotti 09-03-2021, 05:17 PM What % of the time did Eddie call his male friends & Beaver by their real first name? 25?
I remember he called Wally "Ellwood" once. He was showing off his new Italian patent leather shoes and how expensive they were. Eddie says "These aint a pair of sneakers Elwood".
Jack Gomez 09-03-2021, 10:19 PM I tried googling the name Gladys and on Wikipedia it means princess, small sword and in Welsh it means lame. So I can see Eddie using it to call him princess or lame.
All I can find on Ellwood is from the urban dictionary. I'll leave out the f word at the beginning but the rest is "an idiot who needs to mind his own business or bozo." I'm not sure if that is just the modern definition and not what Eddie meant back in the 50s and 60s. Sounds like him though. Lol
vitoscotti 09-04-2021, 03:59 AM If Eddie referred to Wally & Lumpy as Elwood & Joliet Jake we'd really have a story.
stevea 09-04-2021, 12:12 PM What % of the time did Eddie call his male friends & Beaver by their real first name? 25?
I could count on one hand the number of times Eddie called Beaver, Beaver. Most other times it was "squirt."
Howard 09-06-2021, 06:43 PM He used those names to be a jerk and ridiculous and thought that was the cool way to talk from 1957-63.
CanICallYouDad 10-12-2021, 11:26 AM Does not mean anything
GentlemanJim 11-02-2021, 09:05 AM Perhaps worth noting, in today's episode "Lumpy's Car Trouble", Wally gets in the act when he tells Eddie "Get in the car, Fabian"...wondered if that was a way of labeling Eddie as vain?
ThisLittlePiggy 11-11-2021, 11:37 AM Eddie called Wally "Sam Benedict" once, I guess in reference to Benedict Arnold?
stevea 11-11-2021, 05:22 PM This was in another thread a few years ago. Sam Benedict was a TV show of that time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Benedict
vitoscotti 11-11-2021, 07:04 PM Didn't Fred Rutherford refer to Beaver as "Gopher" one time.
GentlemanJim 11-12-2021, 11:26 AM I don't believe the practice was all that unusual. I can recall references to people who attempted to figure out someone else's problems (usually unwelcomed) as "Dick Tracy". Or a person who figured out a daunting puzzle as "Sherlock". Or a person who sorted out details that were a puzzle only to them as (sarcastically) "Einstein".
I think that Eddie just managed to abuse the privilege in excess.
ThisLittlePiggy 11-12-2021, 12:56 PM This was in another thread a few years ago. Sam Benedict was a TV show of that time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Benedict
Wow, I never even heard of that show. Cool! :)
stevea 11-12-2021, 01:37 PM Until the previous thread I'd never heard of it either. Probably went only one season.
TheLittleFaerie 11-13-2021, 05:09 AM I tried googling the name Gladys and on Wikipedia it means princess, small sword and in Welsh it means lame. So I can see Eddie using it to call him princess or lame.
All I can find on Ellwood is from the urban dictionary. I'll leave out the f word at the beginning but the rest is "an idiot who needs to mind his own business or bozo." I'm not sure if that is just the modern definition and not what Eddie meant back in the 50s and 60s. Sounds like him though. Lol
I'm guessing it was Eddie's way of calling him "effeminate" or "sissy" at the time. I thought Eddie also called Wally "Gretchen" a couple of times but I could be wrong
stevea 11-13-2021, 05:24 PM I think I remember Gretchen. It rhymed with something but I can't imagine what.
stevea 11-15-2021, 08:18 PM I think I remember Gretchen. It rhymed with something but I can't imagine what.
For some reason I thought of it. "Hang onto your Stetson, Gretchen." Kinda rhymes.
vitoscotti 11-16-2021, 07:25 AM It seemed that Eddie Haskell rarely called others by their real names, preferring "hip" replacements like "Sam" to better fit his "cool" image. This happened more often towards the end of the series, particularly in Season 6. When talking about parents, his own or others, he often called them "Wardens". When addressing Beaver, he would use names like "Squirt", "Junior" or "Sonny". Of course, most of Eddie's alternate-name references, particularly "Sam", refer to Wally. The following list gives a rich portrait of just how varied the "alternate-name-calling" - always good-spirited - could be. (All references are Eddie speaking to Wally, unless otherwise noted.) In Leave It to Beaver: New Doctor (1958) : "Cut it out, Rock (Hudson) - who do you think you're kiddin'?" In Leave It to Beaver: The Hypnotist (1960) : "Muscles." In Leave It to Beaver: Beaver's Big Contest (1960) : "Come on, Charlie." In Leave It to Beaver: Chuckie's New Shoes (1960) : Eddie, mocking Wally's romantic relationships, refers to him as "Lover". In Leave It to Beaver: Beaver Goes in Business (1961) : "Look, Orville." In Leave It to Beaver: Beaver's Fear (1962) : In a rare instance of someone other than Eddie using an alternate name, Lumpy says to Wally, "Let's get with it, Gertrude." In Leave It to Beaver: Eddie Quits School (1962) : "Hold the inventory, Mortimer"; "They're not a pair of sneakers, Elwood"; and "Don't get hasty, Gertrude." In Leave It to Beaver: Beaver's Laundry (1962) : "I'm with you, Claude"; and turnabout's fair play, when Wally says to Eddie, "Start moppin', Sam." In Leave It to Beaver: Lumpy's Car Trouble (1962) : "But Agnes, this is a short cut"; and "Relax, Clyde." In Leave It to Beaver: The Yard Birds (1962) : referring to yard work: "Come on Moe, drop the hoe"; and "Come on, Isabel." In Leave It to Beaver: A Night in the Woods (1962) : "Look, Davy Crockett"; "Hang on to your Stetson, Gretchen"; and "Hold it, Maisie." In Leave It to Beaver: Un-Togetherness (1962) : "I wanted to see you, too, Gwendolyn." In Leave It to Beaver: Wally's Dinner Date (1962) : "I hate to say this, Gertrude." In Leave It to Beaver: Eddie, the Businessman (1962) : "Let's go, Cornelius"; "Look, Elwood"; and "Don't get excited, Gladys." In Leave It to Beaver: The Party Spoiler (1962) : arriving at Wally's party: "Hey, where's the band, Lionel?"; in the kitchen with Beaver: "Hey, Duncan Hines, get your grubby little paws off the food"; "Very funny, Leroy"; and "Look, Clyde." In Leave It to Beaver: The Mustache (1963) : "You're out, Clyde - o-u-g-h-t, out!" In Leave It to Beaver: Wally Buys a Car (1963) : "Hi, Sam Benedict." In Leave It to Beaver: The Parking Attendants (1963) : to Beaver: "You stay out of this, Boy Creep"; and to Wally: "Kidding, Alice, kidding." In Leave It to Beaver: More Blessed to Give (1963) : to Gilbert: "You stay out of this, Hydrant-Head"; "Remind me to tell your mother what a good cook she is, Homer"; to Beaver: "Wait a minute, Clyde"; also to Beaver: "You better head for the hills, Sir Lancelot." In Leave It to Beaver: The Credit Card (1963) : "Listen, Gertrude"; "No Hurry, Elwood"; "What da ya say, Stella"; and "OK, Gertrude, heh, heh, heh." In Leave It to Beaver: Box Office Attraction (1963) : "Look, Mr Peepers"; and "I'll see you in the car, Rodney." In Leave It to Beaver: Lumpy's Scholarship (1963) : "You gotta keep on the ball, Irma." In Leave It to Beaver: The Silent Treatment (1963) : to Beaver: "You're all right, Charlie." In Leave It to Beaver: Wally and the Fraternity (1963) : "Hold it, Alvin. hold it." In Leave It to Beaver: The All-Night Party (1963) : to Lumpy: "Come on, Fat Stuff."
Scrabjan1 11-19-2021, 04:46 PM Wow that made for great reading. Love Mr. Peepers, Mortimer and Crazy Legs.
vitoscotti 12-09-2021, 06:54 PM Found this when I googled Eddie Haskell singing.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=22Yy-QhIXAg
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