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Duster76
08-11-2021, 11:48 PM
There was a thread from a few years back that received some recent responses
titled, "Which regular character should have been a one-off", Goober received a few comments, I wanted to at least partially defend the character. Goober first appears in the episode "Fun Girls", and in that episode he is actually funny, a real live wire. He was kind of a thinking man's Ernest T Bass, I believe they could have done some interesting things with that version of Goober. Instead he was changed into a hapless dullard, giving the audience little bang for the buck. It was a real shame.

vitoscotti
08-12-2021, 12:08 AM
There was a thread from a few years back that received some recent responses
titled, "Which regular character should have been a one-off", Goober received a few comments, I wanted to at least partially defend the character. Goober first appears in the episode "Fun Girls", and in that episode he is actually funny, a real live wire. He was kind of a thinking man's Ernest T Bass, I believe they could have done some interesting things with that version of Goober. Instead he was changed into a hapless dullard, giving the audience little bang for the buck. It was a real shame.

Goober was a wonderful, funny character. He wasnt a thinking man's anything.

GentlemanJim
08-12-2021, 01:01 AM
According to Gomer, Goober installed an automobile engine in a row boat. Pretty cleaver for a rube.

Samme
08-12-2021, 01:27 AM
Goober worked as a character. He was funny. George did a good job.

icecream
08-12-2021, 01:49 AM
I don't mind Goober. But he doesn't have the appeal of his cousin Gomer.

stevea
08-12-2021, 07:01 AM
He had a lot of funny episodes. Re-assembling Gilly's car in the courthouse, and Fun Girls as mentioned. Getting dating advice and courting Miss Lydia (great episode!)

Plus several color episodes. Growing a beard and turning into a philosopher. Falling for the talking dog bit. Blackballing Howard from the lodge. Etc.

vitoscotti
08-12-2021, 09:31 AM
Judy, Judy, Judy.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=blQrIySidOA

Isn't it "Lydia" Goober dated, not Lillian. "We ate all the candy, there's nothing left to do." Thats an intelligent man? Look at her.

Goober & Barney observing the master.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2EnpcdwBbGk

Goober is one of the greatest sitcom characters on one of the greatest sitcoms. He's in many, many classic episodes. I really love most every tags episode he was in (b&w and color). Tags fans appreciate him. But, he should of got more respect for his brilliant portrayal of Goober.

I've seen posts that people dont like Goober, Floyd, Andy Helen, Gomer, etc. Unbelievable.

stevea
08-12-2021, 09:41 AM
Yep, Lydia Crosswaith, or however you spell it. Oops!

stevea
08-12-2021, 09:54 AM
That Lydia and Goober episode is one of the funniest of the whole series. Spying on Andy and Helen, and that scene where she shoots down every plan--hilarious! "I get carsick." "Sit by the window!"

GentlemanJim
08-12-2021, 10:17 AM
I've seen posts that people dont like Goober, Floyd, Andy Helen, Gomer, etc. Unbelievable.

So, you like Helen? (lol) I think it's relative. People see Goober as a disappointing replacement for Gomer (which I agree with, but that doesn't mean that I dislike Goober).
Same thing With Warren vs Barney, or Emmett vs Floyd. Just something about "A" being gone, and the apparent perception that "B" is the substitute we are expected to be content with.

SarahBellum
08-12-2021, 11:00 AM
Gomer was a naive country bumpkin and a rather lovable character IMO. Goober was apparently mechanically inclined, but an annoying doofus otherwise. Case in point - the scene at Helen's window where he and Barney were watching Andy and Helen on the couch.

stevea
08-12-2021, 11:19 AM
I've seen posts that people dont like Goober, Floyd, Andy Helen, Gomer, etc. Unbelievable.

I have to admit most of the time I can't stand the way Helen is written. Nothing to do with disliking Aneta Corsaut. I think they overplayed the jealousy card with her character and just made her flat out unlikable in too many episodes.

vitoscotti
08-12-2021, 01:06 PM
I always looked at Helen as having a bit of a hot temper. Andy Griffith would then play off Helen's tantrums with his comedy magic. And that made her character interesting. Remember her tantrums set up some great "fun girl" scenes. She drove Andy into Mavis Neff's (hottie Elaine Joyce) clutches (Helen, the Authoress). I will say she could tone it down a notch when she's pissed. But I think she's a great character. She got teed off easy. But, she had a sweet, caring, loving side also. Overall she put up with a lot of Mayberry's knuckeheads in a civil manner. She really filled out those expensive outfits on a teacher's salary in the color episodes also.

stevea
08-12-2021, 02:00 PM
Lap wrinkles...bubbly-wubbly. Andy got Helen good in that episode. She was so steamed about Andy and Mavis she ran out of the diner with her publisher/date. And, Mavis was great casting!

Warren was mentioned above. He actually had one of the best season 6 episodes, where his sleepwalking turned him amorous--with Helen. Hilarious!

His Huh? stuff got old quick, but really not a bad addition to the show.

vitoscotti
08-12-2021, 07:47 PM
Lap wrinkles...bubbly-wubbly. Andy got Helen good in that episode. She was so steamed about Andy and Mavis she ran out of the diner with her publisher/date. And, Mavis was great casting!

Warren was mentioned above. He actually had one of the best season 6 episodes, where his sleepwalking turned him amorous--with Helen. Hilarious!

His Huh? stuff got old quick, but really not a bad addition to the show.

When I was able to record video on Amazon PV I recorded all the best Warren huh, huh huhs compilation. I pull it out occasionally for laughs. I'm a huge Warren fan. Every Warren episode is a 10* for me.

Chocolate Moose
08-13-2021, 09:00 AM
Gomer was a great character because the writers made him so. they could have done so much more with Goober.

GentlemanJim
08-13-2021, 10:12 AM
When I was able to record video on Amazon PV I recorded all the best Warren huh, huh huhs compilation..

That would make a great soundtrack for a gag robo-caller. Put it in an endless loop, base it off shore so that no one could shut you down.....go through a rotation of about a dozen originating phone numbers so that call blocker would appear useless.

Bedlam!

SarahBellum
08-13-2021, 10:20 AM
Gomer was a great character because the writers made him so. they could have done so much more with Goober.

Did they change writers after Gomer left? There do not seem to be very many good episodes after season 4.

Will Dockery
12-31-2021, 04:35 AM
There was a thread from a few years back that received some recent responses
titled, "Which regular character should have been a one-off", Goober received a few comments, I wanted to at least partially defend the character. Goober first appears in the episode "Fun Girls", and in that episode he is actually funny, a real live wire. He was kind of a thinking man's Ernest T Bass, I believe they could have done some interesting things with that version of Goober. Instead he was changed into a hapless dullard, giving the audience little bang for the buck. It was a real shame.

Goober should have kept the beard, which gave him the super intelligence.

;)

Will Dockery
12-31-2021, 04:39 AM
Did they change writers after Gomer left? There do not seem to be very many good episodes after season 4.

I don't remember the details of who's who right now, but the director (or producer) changed, along with writers, none of which had the verve that was in the earlier seasons.

rusty spike
12-01-2022, 06:27 PM
I bet many of us have known a Goober in real life; maybe not a good friend, but an acquaintance from work.

I used to work at a department store and there was rivalry among the store clerks who could set out an end cap display.

So Tweedle got a bright idea to stack a pyramid of 2 gallon glass jars on the top shelf. The shelve began to sag to he bolstered it by using a store's step ladder. Can you picture it yet?

Some clerk needed the use of the ladder and the shelf collapsed, every jar smashing into a gazillion pieces. And Tweedle dum couldn't understand why he should clean up the mess- Um I didn't move the ladder.

Yong Fang
12-02-2022, 09:24 AM
I am sure Lindsey was in more than one "Gunsmoke" episode, and there are so many, but George Lindsey played a bad guy criminal in an episode, and he was scary. Mean as a rattlesmake and would kill for a dime. There are soooo many Gunsmokes, I wish I could find it (and it was filmed while TAGS was still on, I believe).

So Lindsey did have some range.

SarahBellum
12-02-2022, 04:30 PM
According to IMDB, Lindsey appeared in 6 episodes of Gunsmoke.