Do any of you like it? I've seen all of the episodes, and I cansay that it's not such a great show..unless you think Gloria talking to a turtle is funny.

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Andrew Carden

I use to watch Gloria when there were reruns on WWOR New York. I didn't think that there was anything special about the show. However I do think that CBS should have renewed it for a second season because the ratings were good for the first season.

ARCHIE BUNKER'S PLACE went off the air, after the first season of GLORIA

I've never seen Gloria. I wished some channel would pick up Archie Bunker's Place and Gloria.

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Lumpy: Did you go out for anything, Dud?

Dudley: Well, I went out for football, but I got my finger stepped on, so my mother made me quit.

Eddie: Well listen-- I went out for basketball and I got my hair pulled, and my mother made ME quit.

Dudley: It's not that I was afraid of getting hurt or anything; it's just that-- well, it's kind o' hard to play the flute with a busted finger.

[Eddie and Lumpy suppress laughter]

Dale Midkiff is my man! :)

I have the first pilot episode from the ABP series in which Archie appears. The episode itself isnt really too funny nor is any of the 13 episodes produced.

I love "AITF" and "ABP" with a passion but the "Gloria" series fell short for me.

I never cared much for "Maude" either but i loved the "Jeffersons" and "Good Times" as spinoffs.

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cp

What's really funny is that the "Gloria" pilot, where Archie takes Gloria and Joey to upstate New York, was never aired on CBS (they did air the two-part episode where Gloria returns to New York with Joey). CBS didn't like it, and shot a different first episode, without Carroll O'Connor. The pilot episode eventually turned up in the "Archie Bunker's Place" syndication package. Weird.

It makes it a truly "rare" episode. WPSG Philadelphia aired it last year.

I liked the "Gloria Comes Home" episode better though. The WPSG episode is edited unlike the CBS airing which of course is complete.

The show was tooo watered down and I could not stand the character Clark. I would have fired him, kept Dr. Adams and possibly Maggie. Gloria seemed like she was tooo dependent.


I'll be honest, During these last years of All in the Family era, things got weak. I had no issue with the producers changing the name of the show, but so much off screen stuff happening: Edith's Stroke, Mike's leaving Gloria for the homecoming queen, and where did Veronica and Mrs. Canby disappear to? No proper series finale for this show that aired for 13 years. It's a shame. As far as Gloria goes, I think the writing could have been much better. I loved the animals, they were cute but it wasn't working. I would have kept the show and made some changes.

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I remember that "Archie Bunker's Place" never had a FAREWELL episode, after all the years of Carroll O'Connor being brave enough to play the role of ARCHIE BUNKER(he felt frustrated himself about it), and, most of all, it's origin being "All In The Family", but, they just unexpectedly decided during the summer to ax it, for the coming fall schedule. This is one of the reasons they made a mistake by letting the show continue beyond Mike and Gloria's departure

I agree that Gloria became too dependent in her own series. She became a little ditzy as well, and seemed like a different character.

As far as Carroll being upset that he didn't get a farewell episode -- he should have realized that he did. It was called "The Stivics Go West". It was Carroll who wanted to continue the show after that, despite half the cast leaving and Norman Lear wanting to stop (and Jean Stapleton later quitting). I don't know what they could have done for an ABP finale, with Edith dead, and Mike and Gloria divorced. The show had gone on way too long at that point, and CBS obviously realized it.

The FINAL episode of "Archie Bunker's Place", it seems, was about Billie dating, and that's only VAGUELY what I remember

Here is my opinion:

I haven't seen an episode of ABP, so this is just what came up in my imagination.

It should've been Archie at Edith's grave and Archie recalling different moments from "All in the Family" and "ABP".

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Lumpy: Did you go out for anything, Dud?

Dudley: Well, I went out for football, but I got my finger stepped on, so my mother made me quit.

Eddie: Well listen-- I went out for basketball and I got my hair pulled, and my mother made ME quit.

Dudley: It's not that I was afraid of getting hurt or anything; it's just that-- well, it's kind o' hard to play the flute with a busted finger.

[Eddie and Lumpy suppress laughter]

Dale Midkiff is my man! :)

The last episode of ABP was titled "Im Torn Here".
Theres an episode guide for both AITF and ABP on my site: http://www.webspawner.com/users/abunker/

[This message has been edited by cp (edited 10-13-2001).]

Originally posted by ThomasE:



During these last years of All in the Family era, things got weak. No proper series finale for this show that aired for 13 years.

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The final network rerun episode of Gloria in the late summer of 1983 was about her recieving divorce papers and having to deal with the fact that she and Mike were divorced.This,IMO,though it may not have been the last show made,was appropriate to be the last show telecast.The ABP rerun that same night was about Archie going out on the town with a few of his friends.The entire AITF saga thus ended...althouugh personaly I considered it ended with Edith's 1980 death. (I saw very few episodes of ABP or Gloria afterwards.)

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Richard Ranke

Finale idea's


Billie marries Gary Rabinowitz
Archie sells the bar and moves to Florida
Gloria and Joey move back to Queens and buy the
house from Archie, Stephanie lives with Gloria and Joey
because she doesn't want to move away from friends.