She was meant to be the comic relief of the show. Sophia played a big part in the show. Would you really have tuned in to see Dorothy, Blanche, and Rose be pleasant towards each other all the time?

I never took her crabbiness literally; she likes to come across as Queen of the witches, but at the end of the day, can be kind in her actions.

I never took her crabbiness literally; she likes to come across as Queen of the witches, but at the end of the day, can be kind in her actions.
Sophia had a tendency to bluntly tell the truth, which is why I think fans get offended by her.

Sophia had a tendency to bluntly tell the truth, which is why I think fans get offended by her.

And so does Dorothy ; the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

And so does Dorothy ; the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
I always did see a similarity between Sophia and Dorothy but couldn’t quite hint it out until now.

I always did see a similarity between Sophia and Dorothy but couldn’t quite hint it out until now.

Dorothy is blunt, but she's not mean, vindictive or cruel. Sophia is mean, vindictive and cruel. I see a big difference with the two. I don't like Sophia. She's too nasty, also a lousy mother.

Dorothy is blunt, but she's not mean, vindictive or cruel. Sophia is mean, vindictive and cruel. I see a big difference with the two. I don't like Sophia. She's too nasty, also a lousy mother.

I don’t think she’s quite as evil as you make her out - I just think she needs a good laxative LOL

Dorothy is blunt, but she's not mean, vindictive or cruel. Sophia is mean, vindictive and cruel. I see a big difference with the two. I don't like Sophia. She's too nasty, also a lousy mother.
True, I agree with you up to the lousy mother part. Isn’t that the same lousy mother who confronted the doctors who misdiagnosed her daughter, supervised her daughter on her first day of school instead of leaving it in the teacher’s hands, and the list goes on?

True, I agree with you up to the lousy mother part. Isn’t that the same lousy mother who confronted the doctors who misdiagnosed her daughter, supervised her daughter on her first day of school instead of leaving it in the teacher’s hands, and the list goes on?

She's also the same lousy mother who completely disowned her son Phil and her grandchildren because Phil's wife's dowry check bounced.
She's the same lousy mother who turned Dorothy's prom date away and let her believe that the guy just stood her up.
She's the same lousy mother who fixed up her daughter Gloria with Dorothy's ex-husband.
Do I need to go on?

She's also the same lousy mother who completely disowned her son Phil and her grandchildren because Phil's wife's dowry check bounced.
She's the same lousy mother who turned Dorothy's prom date away and let her believe that the guy just stood her up.
She's the same lousy mother who fixed up her daughter Gloria with Dorothy's ex-husband.
Do I need to go on?
The others ones I agree with. They were absolutely absurd.

As for #2, Dorothy’s prom date showed up looking like a bum and mouth offed to Sophia. Sophia thought he was a bad influence and wanted Dorothy to go out to her prom with class and style. I see nothing wrong with that.

As for #2, Dorothy’s prom date showed up looking like a bum and mouth offed to Sophia. Sophia thought he was a bad influence and wanted Dorothy to go out to her prom with class and style. I see nothing wrong with that.

I would agree with you if she was honest about it. What is wrong is that Sophia didn't tell Dorothy the truth. She let her believe that the guy stood her up. She was selfish and cruel.

I would agree with you if she was honest about it. What is wrong is that Sophia didn't tell Dorothy the truth. She let her believe that the guy stood her up. She was selfish and cruel.
I think what they were trying to convey was that if Sophia would’ve told Dorothy the truth, she still would’ve blown up and wouldn’t have believed Sophia, so that’s why Sophia lied.

I think what they were trying to convey was that if Sophia would’ve told Dorothy the truth, she still would’ve blown up and wouldn’t have believed Sophia, so that’s why Sophia lied.

So rather than face the consequences of her actions, Sophia chose for Dorothy to feel rejected and totally humiliated all so she could save her own ass. That's some awesome parenting.

So rather than face the consequences of her actions, Sophia chose for Dorothy to feel rejected and totally humiliated all so she could save her own ass. That's some awesome parenting.

She was a mixed bag. Sometimes nice sometimes evil. I LOVE IT, when she’s working Dorothy’s last nerve, how Dorothy threatens her with THE HOME. LOL

She was a mixed bag. Sometimes nice sometimes evil. I LOVE IT hiw when she’s working poor Dorothy’s last nerve, how Dorothy threatens her with THE HOME. LOL

Yes, I also love it when Dorothy threatens the old bat with: "Shady Pines, Ma." That always shuts her up right away! :lol:

Yes, I also love it when Dorothy threatens the old bat with: "Shady Pines, Ma." That always shuts her up right away! :lol:
The best Shady Pines moment was when Dorothy and Blanche were on that talk show.

She was a mixed bag. Sometimes nice sometimes evil. I LOVE IT hiw when she’s working poor Dorothy’s last nerve, how Dorothy threatens her with THE HOME. LOL
Also it’s hilarious when Dorothy covers Sophia’s mouth before she has a chance to speak like “Okay, old lady. Not again. You’ve already said a mouthful. Don’t you dare”.

That's some awesome parenting.
I know, right? ;)

But seriously, it was rather inconsiderate of Sophia to have Dorothy feel like a loser. But in the end, Sophia probably initially thought that it would’ve saved her a lot less trouble. Yes, it was rather selfish, but she did anything she could to not be deemed responsible for Dorothy’s night.

I know, right? ;)

But seriously, it was rather inconsiderate of Sophia to have Dorothy feel like a loser. But in the end, Sophia probably initially thought that it would’ve saved her a lot less trouble. Yes, it was rather selfish, but she did anything she could to not be deemed responsible for Dorothy’s night.

It was a lot more than just inconsiderate. It was cold, calculated and cruel, also incredibly selfish and uncaring. Sophia did absolutely nothing to comfort Dorothy who was suffering. All Sophia did was lie, lie, lie. IMO, she's horrible. Parents are supposed to protect their children but Sophia was only interested in protecting herself.

I love Sophia. I don't take the characters that seriously on a sitcom when they're "mean" for comedic reasons.

Sophia had a tendency to bluntly tell the truth, which is why I think fans get offended by her.

And so does Dorothy ; the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

The big difference is, Dorothy was tactful about it. Sophia was not. She was mean and crude.

The big difference is, Dorothy was tactful about it. Sophia was not. She was mean and crude.
Speaking of The Golden Girls, I was watching the episode where Blanche was being verbally abused by her boyfriend. Maybe it’s just me, but I thought it was totally out of character for Blanche to condone that jerk’s behavior.

Speaking of The Golden Girls, I was watching the episode where Blanche was being verbally abused by her boyfriend. Maybe it’s just me, but I thought it was totally out of character for Blanche to condone that jerk’s behavior.

I'm glad she completely snapped out of it when she caught that scumbag grabbing Dorothy's wrist.

I'm glad she completely snapped out of it when she caught that scumbag grabbing Dorothy's wrist.
Blanche should’ve sat Rex down at the kitchen table and gave him some nice apple pie with poisoning all in it. :lol:That would’ve taught him not to be such a douche.

Blanche should’ve sat Rex down at the kitchen table and gave him some nice apple pie with poisoning all in it. :lol:That would’ve taught him not to be such a douche.

Nah... Blanche was too good to stoop down even below Rex's level. Plus, everything worked out in the end anyway.