Carl Dixon (Moses Gunn) came on at the ending of fourth season as Florida's future husband, and he had a good chemistry with Evans. He is very good actor and at the same footing as Florida and James acting in feature films. But his character was eliminated by moving Carl and Florida to Arizona at end of fourth season.

If producers would have brought back Carl character in the fifth season-with assumption that Florida would have also stay, I think it would have given the show more energy. Carl could have tame some of JJ shenanigans, and have him faceoff with Bookman, Alderman Davis and Sweetdaddy :D

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Carl Dixon (Moses Gunn) came on at the ending of fourth season as Florida's future husband, and he had a good chemistry with Evans. He is very good actor and at the same footing as Florida and James acting in feature films. But his character was eliminated by moving Carl and Florida to Arizona at end of fourth season.

If producers would have brought back Carl character in the fifth season-with assumption that Florida would have also stay, I think it would have given the show more energy. Carl could have tame some of JJ shenanigans, and have him faceoff with Bookman, Alderman Davis and Sweetdaddy :D

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The majority of Good Times Fans HATED Carl and wished that the Ben, the man Florida met in Florida's Night Out would have been her Husband if they wanted to marry off Florida again as Ben was also Widowed himself and had grown Children like Florida and was a nice man. They were DISGUSTED that GT married off Florida to an ATHEIST....Even Esther Rolls put her foot down and called out that Florida, a Devout Christian Woman should NEVER marry an ATHEIST..... Ben in FNO was also Christian, IIRC....

They were DISGUSTED that GT married off Florida to an ATHEIST....Even Esther Rolls put her foot down and called out that Florida, a Devout Christian Woman should NEVER marry an ATHEIST..... Ben in FNO was also Christian, IIRC....

You know the old saying..."love conquer all, even religions (or lack of) :)

I really think Carl being an atheist was an afterthought. Note that after their first meet between Carl and Florida, the subject of being an atheist did not come up again.

Carl Dixon (Moses Gunn) came on at the ending of fourth season as Florida's future husband, and he had a good chemistry with Evans. He is very good actor and at the same footing as Florida and James acting in feature films. But his character was eliminated by moving Carl and Florida to Arizona at end of fourth season.

If producers would have brought back Carl character in the fifth season-with assumption that Florida would have also stay, I think it would have given the show more energy. Carl could have tame some of JJ shenanigans, and have him faceoff with Bookman, Alderman Davis and Sweetdaddy :D

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I could see there being alpha male conflict between JJ and Carl. I think JJ would resent Carl coming into "HIS home" trying to dominate him and other. Once James died, JJ started taking more of an authoritative role

I could see there being alpha male conflict between JJ and Carl. I think JJ would resent Carl coming into "HIS home" trying to dominate him and other. Once James died, JJ started taking more of an authoritative role

You have a point there, but I think Florida could have played a balancing act between them as she was still the most senior authoritative in the household. And give JJ a full time job so he won't be hanging around all day.

I liked Carl and I liked him and Florida together.

You have a point there, but I think Florida could have played a balancing act between them as she was still the most senior authoritative in the household. And give JJ a full time job so he won't be hanging around all day.

Funny how JJ didnt get a full time job until after esther rolle left the show. And then she when came back to the show he lost his job again:lol:

I started to dislike the show after James died. The episodes with Carl were okay, but when GT decided to completely wipe him out like he never existed, I began to despise the show.

I only love Good Times for the James years.

I started to dislike the show after James died. The episodes with Carl were okay, but when GT decided to completely wipe him out like he never existed, I began to despise the show.

I only love Good Times for the James years.
James WAS the show.

I liked Carl but he was a mediocre substitute. Besides, there’s no way that in real life, a devout christian like Florida would go ahead and marry an atheist like Carl. She would’ve at least gotten to know him for a year before going ahead and marrying him. And just imagine if this was a soap opera.

Season 5 was ridiculous. It was so loose and all over the place. The thought of Thelma, Michael, and J.J. being left behind in the apartment with Wilona “chaperoning” was beyond dumb and an insult to the viewers intelligence. They could’ve at least had an aunt or something being sent by Florida to look after the trio.

James WAS the show.

Yes, for me, Good Times is not Good Times without James.

James WAS the show.

I liked Carl but he was a mediocre substitute. Besides, there’s no way that in real life, a devout christian like Florida would go ahead and marry an atheist like Carl. She would’ve at least gotten to know him for a year before going ahead and marrying him. And just imagine if this was a soap opera.

Season 5 was ridiculous. It was so loose and all over the place. The thought of Thelma, Michael, and J.J. being left behind in the apartment with Wilona “chaperoning” was beyond dumb and an insult to the viewers intelligence. They could’ve at least had an aunt or something being sent by Florida to look after the trio.


carl would have been much better than Penny

carl would have been much better than Penny
They could’ve at least had an aunt being sent over by Florida to look after J.J., Michael, and Thelma.

They could’ve at least had an aunt being sent over by Florida to look after J.J., Michael, and Thelma.

But they were at the age where they didnt need anyone to look in on them lol

But they were at the age where they didnt need anyone to look in on them lol

I wonder if it was even legal for JJ, Thelma and Micheal living in the project since they were all single and over eighteen.

I wonder if it was even legal for JJ, Thelma and Micheal living in the project since they were all single and over eighteen.

Nope another family with young kids was supposed to be in there

carl would have been much better than Penny

I didn't mind Carl too much. I just preferred James. But Carl was okay. He was much better than dumbass Penny.

Nope another family with young kids was supposed to be in there

Maybe JJ or Thelma could adopt a kid like Penny to meet the regulation LOL

Maybe JJ or Thelma could adopt a kid like Penny to meet the regulation LOL

No the writers should have showed some progress and have them move out of the projects into another place that was still in same area.

I didn't mind Carl too much. I just preferred James. But Carl was okay. He was much better than dumbass Penny.

I think the main problem with Penny was that Janet Jackson was a bad actress. This girl (Kim Fields) that appeared in couple of episodes of GoodTimes (Snow Storm) probably would have a better choice for Penny character.

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I think the main problem with Penny was that Janet Jackson was a bad actress. This girl (Kim Fields) that appeared in couple of episodes of GoodTimes (Snow Storm) probably would have a better choice for Penny character.

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I dont think it would have made a difference. The show didnt need a kid at that point of the show and it was the turning point of the whole series, They could have focused more on JJ job, Thelma job and Michael highschool. The willona character should have been eliminated since florida was gone

Maybe JJ or Thelma could adopt a kid like Penny to meet the regulation LOL
God no!

I didn't mind Carl too much. I just preferred James. But Carl was okay. He was much better than dumbass Penny.
They could’ve came up with something better than Penny. She was very mediocre. Who would buy the premise and idea that Florida left her kids behind in the GHETTO to tend to some man and during her absence, Wilona chaperoned and looked after the trio and one day stumbled upon this girl and took her in? The Wilona from the first three seasons would’ve pinned Penny on J.J., Michael, and Thelma before even thinking about taking her in herself.

No the writers should have showed some progress and have them move out of the projects into another place that was still in same area.
More realistic idea but it would’ve defeated the purpose of the premise

More realistic idea but it would’ve defeated the purpose of the premise

That's why the show received so much criticism due to no progress. Even the jeffersons had progress and they was rich lol George had 1 cleaning store and ended up with 7.

That's why the show received so much criticism due to no progress. Even the jeffersons had progress and they was rich lol George had 1 cleaning store and ended up with 7.
With Good Times it was

PROJECTS
PROJECTS
PROJECTS

With Good Times it was

PROJECTS
PROJECTS
PROJECTS

If I was around in 76 and had no idea james was off the show and thinking they was about to move and then found out he was killed, I would have stopped watching. Im sure they lost a lot of fans after that

If I was around in 76 and had no idea james was off the show and thinking they was about to move and then found out he was killed, I would have stopped watching. Im sure they lost a lot of fans after that
They did. I think the show was in top ten to mid teens in the first three seasons and plummeted down to the twenties. It got worse in Season 5 too.