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treky
04-19-2021, 04:25 AM
still crunch the credits?

BigManMike
04-21-2021, 05:38 PM
Yes unfortunately

TVLegend
04-21-2021, 09:32 PM
I think so.

Bonniegirl
04-21-2021, 11:03 PM
Yep, As crunchy as ever !! ;):D

treky
04-22-2021, 01:08 AM
ok, thanx everyone. I assumed they are it's just that someone on here said they saw an episode of BURNS & ALLEN on there recently and the credits weren't crunched so I was thinking that they finally stopped. I knew it was too good to be true though.:(

Bonniegirl
04-22-2021, 02:51 AM
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stevea
04-22-2021, 05:48 AM
ok, thanx everyone. I assumed they are it's just that someone on here said they saw an episode of BURNS & ALLEN on there recently and the credits weren't crunched so I was thinking that they finally stopped. I knew it was too good to be true though.:(

Nah, 99% of the time, CRUNCH!

They spent $$$ on their machine and they're gonna use it!

treky
04-22-2021, 04:22 PM
it's a shame they do that because they have A LOT of shows I;d like to see

LUNCH
04-22-2021, 04:35 PM
I don't like when they do that however it is not going to prevent me from watching their channel. Most channels do it these days and I agree it is ridiculous. They have to squeeze their pathetic extra commercials in. All due to the fact that TV advertising was deregulated.

opus
04-22-2021, 04:40 PM
ok, thanx everyone. I assumed they are it's just that someone on here said they saw an episode of BURNS & ALLEN on there recently and the credits weren't crunched so I was thinking that they finally stopped. I knew it was too good to be true though.:(

That was me. Don't know why they left that one episode untouched, but they definitely did.

LUNCH
04-22-2021, 04:44 PM
By the way.
Anyone else find it even more unacceptable that cable channels heavily edit shows down that were originally broadcast on free TV( back when the networks were good), just to fit in extra commercials. Cable channels you pay for. I am not referring to Antenna TV this time which is a free channel. An example, a half hour show made in the 1970s originally broadcast on one of the three networks( free TV) ran about 25 minutes or so. On your typical cable channel these days it is edited down to around 18 maybe 20 minutes tops. And that does not even count what they do with the credits and all the other nonsense they pull.

1960'sTVfan
04-22-2021, 06:01 PM
Antenna TV's credit crunches occur basically 99.5% of the time, only every once in a rare while there's an episode of something that's not credit crunched.

My recordings of The Joey Bishop Show episodes from Antenna TV, episodes 1 and 2 from season one don't have the credits crunched but every episode after that has the credits crunched. :crazy:

Also, when Antenna TV first started airing their edited versions of the Joey Bishop Show, the episodes were 23 minutes with 7 minutes of commercials. Then a year or so later, Antenna wanted an additional minute of precious commercial time so the shows started being sped up to run 22 minutes with 8 minutes of commercials. :rolleyes: :crazy:

TVLegend
04-22-2021, 07:50 PM
https://cms-assets.tutsplus.com/uploads/users/158/posts/31210/image/CrunchyTextEffect0.jpg
LOL.

treky
04-23-2021, 02:57 AM
I e-mailed them once and complained about it and they apologized for it and said they don't like doing it but they do because an unfortunate side effect of the popularity of "retro channels" is that the priced of vintage reruns keeps increasing. They looked at a few ways they could save on costs and unfortunately crunching the credits is the cheapest.

stevea
04-23-2021, 07:37 AM
Every once in awhile you can really notice the speeding, esp. on MeTV. Mybe their machine goes berserk and they don't notice.

If I watch a Brady Bunch on DVD the opening theme sounds SLOW. I guess you get used to it speeded up.

biffbronson
04-23-2021, 07:58 AM
The worst thing about MeTV is when entire scenes are edited out. To me it's most noticeable for series I'm very familiar with, like Gilligan's Island. I don't think Antenna or Decades are anywhere near as bad -- there are cases where the eps were trimmed for syndication and we're stuck with those, but it's not their cutting.

stevea
04-23-2021, 08:57 AM
On Beaver just now they had a really bad edit at the beginning. Ward walks in the front door and they abruptly cut out and then we were in the boys' bedroom. If you saw you could tell they just chopped out a hunk. Probably some trainee who just cut out enough to make the time.

1960'sTVfan
04-23-2021, 10:14 AM
Edited shows, time compressed shows, crunching the credits. Antenna TV, TV the way it was NOT meant to be.

DVD's aren't always perfect either, sometimes shows are edited on the DVD's but I much prefer watching DVD's over any of the retro channels. Most of the TV shows I have on DVD have full versions of the episodes aside from two series that have problems. The DVD's of Gomer Pyle USMC have several episodes edited because of music, and the vast majority of episodes on the Barnaby Jones DVD's are the edited for syndication versions. I don't like it but it is what it is. I imagine that the chances are very slim to none for these series to get released again with all complete episodes.

Torgo
04-23-2021, 10:18 AM
INSP did the cutting of scenes, at least with The Waltons, the last episode I watched on there a couple of years ago was The Genius where John Boy brings home a fellow college student, a 16 year old prodigy to help him with his courses.
The scene that was cut was the entire scene with Lyle the prodigy helping set up the crystal radio.

OH Nuts!
04-23-2021, 11:26 AM
I don't like when they do that however it is not going to prevent me from watching their channel. Most channels do it these days and I agree it is ridiculous. They have to squeeze their pathetic extra commercials in. All due to the fact that TV advertising was deregulated.

Yup. The eps have been edited (as in shortened) but for some hard-to-find shows it’s better than nothing. The channel is still pretty decent but not as good as when it first rolled out. Watching YT and my DVDs more these days.

MikeLutton
04-23-2021, 04:04 PM
i dont even watch antenna anymore since they took half my shows off i usally watch

BigManMike
04-24-2021, 10:56 AM
I rarely watch MeTV these days because of the same old stale schedule and I haven’t watched Antenna in many years because of the credit crunch and bad editing with long commercial breaks. I mostly stick to DVDs or digital downloads or streaming somewhere. I started watching Who’s the Boss at the beginning of the year and will finish it sometime this next week. Season 1 was DVDs and the rest were episodes I downloaded a while back recorded off Nick at Nite in 2004 and I have really enjoyed them.

stevea
04-24-2021, 11:29 AM
I know this credit crunch thing has been done to death, but I think the combination of that and their horrible, low-grade, in-the-gutter ads have probably combined to lower Antenna TV's viewership somewhat.

LUNCH
04-25-2021, 02:10 PM
In the gutter ads really describe almost all commercials and advertising these days. Aside from maybe an exception or 2, is there such a thing as a modern commercial or ad that does not scrape the bottom of the barrel. Even if commercial time were still regulated I would still not watch them because modern advertising is unwatchable in my opinion.

OH Nuts!
04-25-2021, 02:20 PM
Antenna used to be GREAT but has consistently gone downhill. Accordingly I revised my profile deleting it’s shout-out = YT and VDDs are my main squeeze these days.

LUNCH
04-25-2021, 03:05 PM
Every once in awhile you can really notice the speeding, esp. on MeTV. Mybe their machine goes berserk and they don't notice.

If I watch a Brady Bunch on DVD the opening theme sounds SLOW. I guess you get used to it speeded up.

When channels speed up a show, and most do now, it throws off the whole pace of the show. It is almost like listening to your favorite song that has been sped up ever so slightly. It sounds "off". It may still sound ok but not nearly as good as it should.