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TVLegend
04-04-2021, 02:56 PM
Throughout the show, it has been mentioned that Stan and Dorothy were married for 38 years before getting divorced, but there eldest child, Kate is clearly in her mid to late 20s in her two appearances. So Stan and Dorothy waited well over ten years in their marriage before having a child? Speaking of, Stan and Dorothy’s youngest child and only son, Michael is introduced in a season two episode in which he and Rose’s daughter, Bridget wind up in bed together. In his second appearance, however, there is no mention of Bridget but he introduces the girls to his new girlfriend, Lorraine, who is black and almost twenty years older than him, announcing his plans to get engaged to her. Towards the end of the episode, it is revealed that Lorraine is pregnant with Michael’s child. In his season five appearance, he mentions Lorraine, but there is no mention of the baby. In the first season, Blanche’s troubled, rebellious teenage grandson, David is introduced as Blanche’s daughter, Janet’s son. However, in the seventh and final season, Janet is finally seen onscreen with her toddler age daughter. David would’ve been at least in his early twenties at that point. No mention of David in Janet’s appearance either. Shouldn’t Janet’s daughter be David’s? In season three, Stan introduces his brother, Ted, who both Blanche and Dorothy are interested in and fight over. Although, in a season six episode where Stan and Dorothy are about to remarry, there is no mention of Ted and he doesn’t even show up at Stan and Dorothy’s remarriage. Rose’s daughter, Kirsten appears with her preteen daughter, Charlie, who was named after her grandfather in the first season. However, in season seven, she appeared once again after Rose landed in the ICU played by a different actress, by herself without any of her children, explaining how “her little girls” were too young to be in the ICU. Wasn’t Charlie damn near an adult at that point? In the second season, Sophia’s sister, Angela is introduced. But in the third season, Sophia’s brother, Angelo was introduced. After that, there was no mention or appearance of Angela. In the first season, Dorothy’s rich, show off, snobby sister, Gloria was introduced. In the seventh and final season, Gloria returns, this time played by a different actress. This time round Gloria is broke after her husband died and she invested in bonds. But in the sixth season, Dorothy and Gloria’s little brother, Phil died and there was no mention or appearance of Gloria. Where was Gloria for her own brother’s funeral? In the third season, Blanche’s overweight, insecure daughter, Rebecca is introduced announcing her plans to marry her verbally abusive boyfriend Jeremy. But in the fifth season, Rebecca appears again, played by a different actress, in fact this time quite skinny, with the plans of artificially inseminating a child. No mention of how she lost so much weight or Jeremy. Blanche’s father is introduced in the first season, referred to as Big Daddy. He appears one last time in the following season, with his way younger mistress, who he intends on marrying. In the fourth season, Blanche’s baby brother, Clayton is introduced who soon after comes out as gay. Clayton makes one last appearance in the sixth season. In the fifth season, apparently Big Daddy passes away and Blanche’s sister, Virginia returns who first appeared in the first season for Big Daddy’s funeral. Soon after Blanche and Virginia argue again. There is no mention of Big Daddy’s mistress or Clayton and they don’t appear.

Sven
04-19-2021, 09:58 AM
Those are all ones I've wondered myself. It's like the writers just forgot or hoped the viewers would simply forget. ��

TVLegend
04-20-2021, 05:53 PM
Those are all ones I've wondered myself. It's like the writers just forgot or hoped the viewers would simply forget. ��
How the hell did they miss Gloria? They should’ve at least had her show up for Phil’s funeral.

Sven
04-20-2021, 06:07 PM
And we're supposed to not notice the complete two different actors of Big Daddy ?? I know Murray Hamilton passed away during the show but couldn't they have hired someone at least close to the look of him ??

RetroGuy2000
04-20-2021, 06:24 PM
Throughout the show, it has been mentioned that Stan and Dorothy were married for 38 years before getting divorced, but there eldest child, Kate is clearly in her mid to late 20s in her two appearances. So Stan and Dorothy waited well over ten years in their marriage before having a child? Speaking of, Stan and Dorothy’s youngest child and only son, Michael is introduced in a season two episode in which he and Rose’s daughter, Bridget wind up in bed together. In his second appearance, however, there is no mention of Bridget but he introduces the girls to his new girlfriend, Lorraine, who is black and almost twenty years older than him, announcing his plans to get engaged to her. Towards the end of the episode, it is revealed that Lorraine is pregnant with Michael’s child. In his season five appearance, he mentions Lorraine, but there is no mention of the baby. In the first season, Blanche’s troubled, rebellious teenage grandson, David is introduced as Blanche’s daughter, Janet’s son. However, in the seventh and final season, Janet is finally seen onscreen with her toddler age daughter. David would’ve been at least in his early twenties at that point. No mention of David in Janet’s appearance either. Shouldn’t Janet’s daughter be David’s? In season three, Stan introduces his brother, Ted, who both Blanche and Dorothy are interested in and fight over. Although, in a season six episode where Stan and Dorothy are about to remarry, there is no mention of Ted and he doesn’t even show up at Stan and Dorothy’s remarriage. Rose’s daughter, Kirsten appears with her preteen daughter, Charlie, who was named after her grandfather in the first season. However, in season seven, she appeared once again after Rose landed in the ICU played by a different actress, by herself without any of her children, explaining how “her little girls” were too young to be in the ICU. Wasn’t Charlie damn near an adult at that point? In the second season, Sophia’s sister, Angela is introduced. But in the third season, Sophia’s brother, Angelo was introduced. After that, there was no mention or appearance of Angela. In the first season, Dorothy’s rich, show off, snobby sister, Gloria was introduced. In the seventh and final season, Gloria returns, this time played by a different actress. This time round Gloria is broke after her husband died and she invested in bonds. But in the sixth season, Dorothy and Gloria’s little brother, Phil died and there was no mention or appearance of Gloria. Where was Gloria for her own brother’s funeral? In the third season, Blanche’s overweight, insecure daughter, Rebecca is introduced announcing her plans to marry her verbally abusive boyfriend Jeremy. But in the fifth season, Rebecca appears again, played by a different actress, in fact this time quite skinny, with the plans of artificially inseminating a child. No mention of how she lost so much weight or Jeremy. Blanche’s father is introduced in the first season, referred to as Big Daddy. He appears one last time in the following season, with his way younger mistress, who he intends on marrying. In the fourth season, Blanche’s baby brother, Clayton is introduced who soon after comes out as gay. Clayton makes one last appearance in the sixth season. In the fifth season, apparently Big Daddy passes away and Blanche’s sister, Virginia returns who first appeared in the first season for Big Daddy’s funeral. Soon after Blanche and Virginia argue again. There is no mention of Big Daddy’s mistress or Clayton and they don’t appear.

All GREAT observations.

I'll also point out that it's stated repeatedly that Dorothy got pregnant with her first child while Dorothy and Stan were still very young and unmarried, so their oldest child being Kate, and Kate looking so young when Stan and Dorothy were married for 38 years just makes no sense.

TVLegend
04-20-2021, 08:27 PM
All GREAT observations.

I'll also point out that it's stated repeatedly that Dorothy got pregnant with her first child while Dorothy and Stan were still very young and unmarried, so their oldest child being Kate, and Kate looking so young when Stan and Dorothy were married for 38 years just makes no sense.
And I could’ve sworn Kate had a baby towards the end of the show unless I’m wrong?

TVLegend
06-07-2021, 04:13 PM
Two more observations.

In the pilot, Dorothy mentions that she was born and raised in Queens. However, later in the series, it’s mentioned numerous times that Dorothy grew up in Brooklyn.

In a Season 1 episode where Rose falls in love with a man she works with, who happens to be a midget, scared of the circumstances, Blanche tells a story about how she went to her prom with someone from New Jersey (a yankeeuh), despite going against her parent’s wishes and disobeying them. However, in a Season 6 episode, Blanche becomes a part of a club that pays homage to Southern heritage, but ends up finding out that her mother originated from New Jersey. If her mother was a “yankeeuh” herself, then why did she forbid her daughter to go out with one?

TVLegend
06-08-2021, 10:48 PM
ANOTHER observation.

In a Season 1 episode, Rose faints after Blanche announces that she’s pregnant (but don’t worry, it turns out that she ended up going through menopause).

In the Season 4 episode where Sophia reunites with Max, and later weds him, Dorothy faints after discovering Max and Sophia in bed together. Once Dorothy wakes up, Rose asks Dorothy what it felt like to have fainted since she never fainted before.

Wawwie
06-08-2021, 11:44 PM
Blanche becomes a part of a club that pays homage to Southern heritage, but ends up finding out that her mother originated from New Jersey. If her mother was a “yankeeuh” herself, then why did she forbid her daughter to go out with one?

Actually, it was her great grandmother from Buffalo, New York. But yeah, Blanche's mother was a hypocrite.

Here's an observation: In one of the flashback episodes, Sophia recalls her 50th birthday when she thought she was only turning 49. She says that when she came to America, a mistake was made on her birth certificate and she's actually a year older. Well, in the past she recalls living in Sicily as an adult. As an adult wouldn't she know how old she was? Also, if she was living in Sicily until she was an adult, she would still have an accent.

TVLegend
06-08-2021, 11:48 PM
Actually, it was her great grandmother from Buffalo, New York. But yeah, Blanche's mother was a hypocrite.

Here's an observation: In one of the flashback episodes, Sophia recalls her 50th birthday when she thought she was only turning 49. She says that when she came to America, a mistake was made on her birth certificate and she's actually a year older. Well, in the past she recalls living in Sicily as an adult. As an adult wouldn't she know how old she was? Also, if she was living in Sicily until she was an adult, she would still have an accent.
Thanks for the correction! But still, that one just simply makes no damn sense.

The Sophia one made no sense either. Hello, writers, are ya’ll in there?

Wawwie
06-08-2021, 11:57 PM
Here's another inconsistency with Sophia: In one episode where Sophia is talking about her son, Phil's wife, she mentions that the wife is a welder and that she should have welded Phil's zipper shut because they have ten kids.
In a later episode (Grab That Dough), the game show host says that Sophia is a grandmother of six. Now that is a huge boo boo. Phil was supposed to have 10 kids, Dorothy had 2 kids and Gloria had at least one daughter that Dorothy mentions in the Custody Battle episode. So that right there would be grandmother of 13.

TVLegend
06-09-2021, 12:00 AM
Here's another inconsistency with Sophia: In one episode where Sophia is talking about her son, Phil's wife, she mentions that the wife is a welder and that she should have welded Phil's zipper shut because they have ten kids.
In a later episode (Grab That Dough), the game show host says that Sophia is a grandmother of six. Now that is a huge boo boo. Phil was supposed to have 10 kids, Dorothy had 2 kids and Gloria had at least one daughter that Dorothy mentions in the Custody Battle episode. So that right there would be grandmother of 13.
The writers and staff should’ve taken better care of the show. They didn’t even bother to look back on the show’s history.

Wawwie
06-09-2021, 12:23 AM
The writers and staff should’ve taken better care of the show. They didn’t even bother to look back on the show’s history.

Here's another one: In one episode, Blanche recounts George's death and says that she was on the phone with a highway patrolman who told her that George died instantly in a head-on car collision. In a different episode, Blanche says that she was getting a pedicure when George died in the hospital after being in a coma for days.

TVLegend
06-09-2021, 12:29 AM
Here's another one: In one episode, Blanche recounts George's death and says that she was on the phone with a highway patrolman who told her that George died instantly in a head-on car collision. In a different episode, Blanche says that she was getting a pedicure when George died in the hospital after being in a coma for days.
Also, both George and his brother Jamie were played by the same actor: George Grizzard!

Wawwie
06-09-2021, 12:36 AM
Another few with Rose this time:

In the episode where Dorothy is teaching night school, Rose joins the class because she says she never graduated high school. In a different episode, Rose says that she was the valedictorian of her graduating class in high school.

More Rose:

In one episode, she says that she lived in an orphanage until she was eight years old. Then in another episode where she meets her monk father, she says that she was left on the doorstep of the Lindstrum family as a baby.

TVLegend
06-09-2021, 12:39 AM
Another few with Rose this time:

In the episode where Dorothy is teaching night school, Rose joins the class because she says she never graduated high school. In a different episode, Rose says that she was the valedictorian of her graduating class in high school.

More Rose:

In one episode, she says that she lived in an orphanage until she was eight years old. Then in another episode where she meets her monk father, she says that she was left on the doorstep of the Lindstrum family as a baby.
Also, this one:

In an episode, Rose claims to have met Charlie when she was seven. In a Season Seven episode, Rose reunites a childhood friend, Thor. Apparently, she kissed him to make Charlie jealous. Isn’t the idea of Rose kissing Thor at seven kinda ridiculous?

Wawwie
06-09-2021, 12:52 AM
Also, this one:

In an episode, Rose claims to have met Charlie when she was seven. In a Season Seven episode, Rose reunites a childhood friend, Thor. Apparently, she kissed him to make Charlie jealous. Isn’t the idea of Rose kissing Thor at seven kinda ridiculous?

LOL! :lol:

Supposedly, Rose was smooching it up when she was in high school, back when the kids called Thor "Skipper."

TVLegend
06-09-2021, 12:55 AM
back when the kids called Thor "Skipper."
Here on Gilligan’s Island!

Wawwie
06-09-2021, 01:05 AM
Here on Gilligan’s Island!

Blanche can sub for Ginger! :lol:

TVLegend
06-25-2021, 04:50 PM
Also, not exactly a inconsistency, but a coincidence, I guess you can say.

Everyone knows Blanche’s late husband was named George.

Well, coincidentally, in the Empty Nest spinoff episode, Renee’s husband was also named George.

Wawwie
06-25-2021, 06:17 PM
Also, not exactly a inconsistency, but a coincidence, I guess you can say.

Everyone knows Blanche’s late husband was named George.

Well, coincidentally, in the Empty Nest spinoff episode, Renee’s husband was also named George.

Also, in that episode, their friend Oliver was in another GG episode called "Questions & Answers" when Dorothy is on Jeopardy. He is one of the other contestants in her dream.

BestTVever
07-12-2021, 07:07 AM
Interesting thread and I will give it a go.

In the Empty Ness spin off episode Dorothy confronts the neighbor of him throwing up in their pool. Their house never had a pool. In an earlier episode Sophia complains they are the only house in the neighborhood without a pool.

I never could understand why Blanche wanted to dump the soldier returning from Kuwait because he was a pharmacist. Blanche was sort of a gold digger. A pharmacist makes good money. In an earlier episode/season Blanche dumps a guy because he was dirty and fixed things and ran a catering company. Wouldn't most people think a pharmacist would be a terrific job.

TVLegend
07-12-2021, 10:55 AM
I was watching an episode last night, the one where Stan and Dorothy were about to remarry, and they both shouted “don’t tell your mother”. I thought Stan’s mother had died, and if she hadn’t, then why was she nowhere to be found and the “wedding”.

BestTVever
07-15-2021, 07:30 AM
How come Blanche's son never came to visit? We hear Blanche offer her son up in some trade in one of the episodes. I cant remember if her son is ever mentioned again.

In the early shows, they imply that Phil is gay. But as the seasons drag on, we learn Phil has a wife and kids. Then we learn he is just a cross dresser.

TMC
12-28-2021, 05:25 AM
Blanche's father, Big Daddy (https://goldengirls.fandom.com/wiki/Curtis_Hollingsworth) and the lack of cohesion with his storylines:

He married a 30-something woman which upset Blanche.

He had a long term affair with their housekeeper.

He supposedly gave up their estate to be a country western singer with no mention of a wife. And yet when he died, Blanche went home clearly to a big looking house.

schmave
01-03-2022, 02:49 PM
The writers really turned Big Daddy into a sleazy bigot after he died. That was a shame. Neither Murray Hamilton nor David Wayne gave that impression in their appearances.
Like so many other liberties the writers took, it was purely for comedy. That came well ahead of consistency.

schmave
04-10-2022, 01:01 AM
Blanche's father, Big Daddy (https://goldengirls.fandom.com/wiki/Curtis_Hollingsworth) and the lack of cohesion with his storylines:

He married a 30-something woman which upset Blanche.

He had a long term affair with their housekeeper.

He supposedly gave up their estate to be a country western singer with no mention of a wife. And yet when he died, Blanche went home clearly to a big looking house.


And wouldn't Dorothy have met Lucas at Big Daddy's funeral?? :lol: