I was just reading an old interview with one of the guest stars of the first "Lucy-Desi Comedy Hour". Desi Arnaz is mentioned in it a couple of times and the things that were said about him were kind of surprising, if you guys are interested:

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/7537/gay.htm

I've been to that Batman site before. I never went into that section though. Just wondering, do you post on the Batman message board?

Yeah, it was really surprising to see Cesar mention Desi a few times in that interview.

I guess to top off this post, I'll use the very top line of that link. Holy Bat Surprise !

Originally posted by Jenny
Just wondering, do you post on the Batman message board?

Nope, I've never posted there before.

wow so desi was gay.

Originally posted by SoFl123
wow so desi was gay.

I don't think Desi was gay, but I think he was a very sexual person, and very adventurous and uninhibited about his sexuality, willing to try new thing out whatever they might be. I heard this Cesar/Desi story several years ago. I never saw this interview, though.

Uh, just let me say this... :eek2: and leave it at that.

Originally posted by dawsongirl
Uh, just let me say this... :eek2: and leave it at that. AGREE!

Once again guys, don't listen to and believe everything you hear and read!

Oh GOD.....not THAT story again :rolleyes:. It's all smut, you guys. Like Sherry said, don't believe everything you read.

Originally posted by melluvslucy
Oh GOD.....not THAT story again :rolleyes:. It's all smut, you guys. Like Sherry said, don't believe everything you read.

So what if it's true? Big deal. Who cares? So what? It doesn't change anything with respect to his accomplishments or his great legacy.

he sure hid his love for sex when he was on i love lucy.

Maybe Ceaser wished he had Desi!

I don't believe everything I read that's for sure but, even though..... Alot of men and woman do try to boister their sex lives. I just believe not everything is true.

He was not gay, because he DID love Lucille Ball, he might be Bi-Sexual but everybody knows he is not "gay".

All I wanna say is we'll never find out since he's deseaced. We'll never know the truth. :(

oh, my gosh..don't tell me you people actually believe that..
Desi, certainly, most definitely, wasn't gay! He loved women, not men! duh!
I think I'm gonna throw up...

If you start thinking that every person who's experimented with same sex love ONE time just for the kick of it is gay, then most people would be included. And some legends out there would be grouped with Desi, most of them also. I read that article YEARS ago and thought, again, that it was sleazy of Cesar to betray a friend like that, especially one who was gone and coul'nt defend himself. I also remember hearing that Desi would share his prostitutes with friends, but would not be a part of anything that included another man with HIM. AND, i've also heard of rumors regarding his son too, it never ends, does it? It sells books and magazines, the almighty dollar at work again!

Originally posted by crazyredhead
oh, my gosh..don't tell me you people actually believe that..
Desi, certainly, most definitely, wasn't gay! He loved women, not men! duh!
I think I'm gonna throw up...

No, don't do that! Weren't you the person who said that she was going to throw up on another post? These boards are hazardous to your health! Watch out! :p

I wouldn't worry; Claude is right. Some people like to jump the fence every now and then. I don't think he ever considered himself gay, but we'll never really know.

I wouldn't put it past him.

1st - Was/is it a known thing that Cesar was gay?

2nd - Can it be proved that Cesar actually gave that interview?

3rd - :eek:



Am I the only person who didn't know of the rumors about Cesar? :lol:

Originally posted by Ricardos4ever
I wouldn't worry; Claude is right. Some people like to jump the fence every now and then. I don't think he ever considered himself gay, but we'll never really know.

Yeah...I've even heard a rumor that (the guy in my avatar) experimented with a guy.

Hollywood...well, wealth, really #@*&'s up people's minds and makes them overly brave.

They say if sexuality is taken as a scale of one to ten, where one is totally straight, and ten is totally gay, most of us are threes/fours or sevens/eights, even if we don't really realise it. It's no big deal. And what does it matter anyway? So Desi might have been bisexual. So? :confused:

To answer the question above, it was politely 'known' in closed circles that Cesar Romero was gay, yes. Same as it was politely known amongst a few people way back in the fifties that Rock Hudson and Sal Mineo (amongst others) were gay. It just wasn't leaked out into mainstream knowledge. People were pretty smallminded then, and something like that was a career destroyer. Happily the times they are a-changing.

Originally posted by Mickey
To answer the question above, it was politely 'known' in closed circles that Cesar Romero was gay, yes. Same as it was politely known amongst a few people way back in the fifties that Rock Hudson and Sal Mineo (amongst others) were gay. It just wasn't leaked out into mainstream knowledge.

I knew about Rock and Sal, but knew nothing of Cesar. I'm still wondering if that interview is real. Kinda hard to maintain your privacy when you talk that openly and discuss things that...interesting, lol. Maybe the author was correct that Cesar was pretty open and most journalist just never took advantage of that, but it seems "fishy" to me. Unless he didn't know his every word was being transcribed to memory (and most likely a hidden audio tape recorder) by the author in question.


People were pretty smallminded then, and something like that was a career destroyer. Happily the times they are a-changing.

Not really, people just hide their hate behind different things now...I won't go into it in fear causing the biggest war of words EVER.:lol:

ugh...

i believe Desi was 100% gay-free. I mean c'mon he was married (to a woman!) for almost 20 years and had two kids, could have had four. (Lucy''s miscarriages) lol. And then after divorce with Lucy he got married again, to another woman. Desi gay? Noo..macho man! lol

You'd think by now you'd know that being married in Hollywood is not proof that someone is not gay, God, even in the real world that's the case. To get a better job or rise in a career, people will stoop to anything to stop the small minded idiots around them who can't mind their own business ane let people live the lives they want, it's not as if they had a choice in the matter! Even I knew about Cesar, that article did not mention that on one of his DATES with Lucy, he even TOLD her that he was. As for Desi, i agree with Mickey, who cares? However, for us Lucy fans who have heard how his womanizing ways ruined one of the greatest love affairs of all time, it's a little hard to swallow, no pun intended! Well, actually, it was intended, you can say anything here! LOL!

LOL

ya'll can believe what you want, but I'll never believe he was gay. And ya'll are right, I don't really care. Even though sometimes I wish I never cameto this board because ya'll are making me look at Desi differently.. not! :lol: *runs away with picture of handsome Desi in pocket* *whispers* you are NOT gay. :talk:


*chants* Desi isn't gay, Desi isn't gay, Desi isn't gay...

Okay I'll shutup..
:o ;)

You dun't seem to understand that nobody is saying he WAS, we're saying he might have done the deed with a dude the one time, or a few times, it's nobody's business but his own. And Cesar is not doing him any favors by bringing it up after Desi is gone is what i'm also saying. Takes blood pressure pill and walks away shrugging his shoulders and saying SHEESH in a loud voice. LOL!

Ok, I'm probably getting annoying with all of my quoting, but here goes. This is from "Lucy in the Afternoon:

Lucy: "Cesar's a great guy. I had a real crush on him, and he was terrific fun on a date. The best dancer in the world. One night we went to Mocambo, and we both had too much to drink. I thought that maybe he'd make a pass after all the times we went out, but he didn't. He's a real gent. The best. As we danced, he started to cry. I asked him what was the matter, and he just said, 'I'm strange.' I told him that we were all a little strange, and then he really broke down."

It's kinda funny that Lucy had a crush on Cesar, but couldn't land him. Desi on the other hand.....well.....nevermind. :D

It mentions on the site that Cesar was the kinda guy who Hollywood women would date to keep up apperances. So it is possible that Lucy was dating him while she was having that illicit affair with someone like Pan Berman.

LOL!

where did ya'll here that Desi 'did it a few times with a guy'??

You have to read more slowly, i said what if he did, nobody knows but Desi himself. Cesar is telling us which is shocking, but although nothing surprises me about celebrities anymore, i haven't been the same since i heard the gerbil story, however, i was shocked by hearing this about Desi. Then again, knowing Desi's libido was always in overdrive, he must have thought, hey i could double my pleasure, just joking now!

LOL!
I read the interview over, and I laughed.
Cesar said Desi said, "I know what you want, let's get it over with."
lol...I think it's funny and gross at the same time. Cesar said he had a crush on Desi...and he's probably wishing Desi had said that. lmao! :lol:

Darlin, if we knew just part of what these celebrities do, we woud'nt idolize many of them! Then again, they're all human just like us, so we should'nt expect them to be Saints.

Originally posted by crazyredhead
ugh...

i believe Desi was 100% gay-free. I mean c'mon he was married (to a woman!) for almost 20 years and had two kids, could have had four. (Lucy''s miscarriages) lol. And then after divorce with Lucy he got married again, to another woman. Desi gay? Noo..macho man! lol

Gay free? That's a new saying.

That's like saying one is cancer free. Radiation treatment has cured them of their "gayness."

I'm straight as a string bean, but that just strikes me as a very offensive way to put it.

Originally posted by SPLAIN
Darlin, if we knew just part of what these celebrities do, we woud'nt idolize many of them! Then again, they're all human just like us, so we should'nt expect them to be Saints.

Very true.

:rolleyes:

"If we knew everything the stars get up to we wouldn't idolise them?" Don't know about that actually. Like you say, Splain, they're only human - so does that mean you don't have any idols? 'Cause they're all human too. Sure, nobody's a saint (even the saints themselves, strictly speaking, since most of them weren't really all that nice by our standards!) - but then does that matter? If you're looking for perfection you're never going to find it. I'm not sure you're supposed to!

I have a REAL problem with celebs. I hear some thing that Harrison Ford says that riles me and i get rid of all his movies. I see Tom Cruise do something stupid or this other star treat fans like garbage and i get rid of all their stuff and stop seing their movies. Yes, we do expect a lot from our favorite stars. We should KNOW better, you're right! Lately it's Mel Gibson, i have every one of his films, he's always been a favorite of mine. I admired his dad for leaving the US at the height of the Vietnam war to go live in Australia so his sons would'nt die for a lost cause. Yesterday however, i read that he, his father i mean, denies the Holocaust ever happened, Mel is building his own Church and he is a fanatical participant in this offshoot of the Catholic church. His current movie is about the last hours of Christ and is supposedly anti Semetic, until i know more, i am just getting rid of his lousiest movies first. LOL!

LOL! I just found out something about Johnny Depp, not sure if it's true or not, but supposedly he's moving to France because he says "America sucks." I always knew he was a little weird, lol, but I loved him in "Pirates of the Carribean", "Sleepy Hollow", "Edward Scissorhands", and now to hear this! :rolleyes: :lol:

Johnny Depp has always loved Europe. I wouldn't be surprised.

Splain, as far as I know, Mel Gibson's latest film isn't anti-Semetic. People are just worried that it might help fuel anti-Semetic thought. The scene causing the problems is when Jesus is condemned to death, largely on the say so of the crowd. Now as far as historical sources (mainly the Bible) say, this is true, and the crowd happened to be mainly Jewish. Certain Jewish leaders are worried that people might become angry at Jews, blaming them for the death of Jesus. I don't see that a scene like that can be said to be intentionally anti-Semetic. They might just as easily have all been one-legged ginger-haired bakers (to use an extreme example), but it wouldn't mean that the world would decide that all one-legged ginger-haired bakers should be held accountable for the death of Jesus. There might be more to it of course.

I don't have a problem with actors at all in that respect. Mind you, I do seem to have a talent for choosing to like the ones that later turn out to be genuinely nice! A current favourite is Goran Visnjic. I haven't seen an actor that bloody good in years. Amazing emotional depth, and he's only a year or two older than me. And he's very thoughtfully doing anti-fur adverts at the moment, so he's risen in my estimation! Seriously though, by your reckoning I suppose I should hate Bob Hope. He was a Republican, and I despise the Republican party, and most of what they stand for. He must have been fairly right wing. Doesn't stop me enjoying his films and performances though! Ditto Charlton Heston - I mean what a prat! All that pro-gun rubbish. Not going to boycott his films though!

:wave:

Well, you got me good with that one. I hate Charlton, always have, always will, loved Bob Hope in spite of his politics, but mostly because he was a favorite of Lucy's. Bob in his heydey was just as bad as some of that Republican bunch who spout that if you are against the war or Bush, you are anti American, which is rubbish of course, what about free speech? Is the good ole USA becoming like Russia thirty years ago, where you can't voice your opinion? I'd like to get your opinion on Prince William killing that animal for sport or a good photo op, what did you think of that? Oh and i never said the movie WAS Anti Semetic, i just repeated what i read in the paper, it's his dad i have a problem with, denying the Holocaust is beyond me, and Mel has also bashed gays in the past, maybe he feels he can say and do anything now that he has hundreds of millions in the bank and he's reached the age where his action films are no longer feasable like Harrison. If you are so strongly against the Repiblicans, as i am also, how do you feel about Blair? Both of them deceiving the public to get a war going?

Mel Gibson spent his formative years in Australia, which is allegedly very anti-gay. I've never heard him voice his opinions on anything, to be honest, so I can't really comment! To deny the Holocaust is worse than stupid, obviously. It brings you dangerously in line with some very evil people, and if my father honestly believed in that, then I wouldn't have anything more to do with him. As for Mel being anti-gay... well, I'm very pro-gay, for whatever reasons, and I have a very low opinion of people who have a problem with the whole gay thing, but I know that that wouldn't stop me enjoying the first two Lethal Weapons movies! (Plus, I can't see it stopping some of my gay friends raving about Mel during the torture scene in Lethal Weapon I!)

Prince William. Mmm. Okay, see I'm a vegetarian, and I'm against blood sports. However I also grew up in the countryside, amongst people who honestly believe that this is the right way to go on. Nothing will ever convince them that hunting and shooting isn't a good conservation tactic. Nothing. Believe me, I know the type. For the most part though, I have a very high opinion of Wills and Harry. They're good kids (sorry, young men), and there's not much wrong with them. Besides the shooting, obviously... :rolleyes:

Which brings us to Blair. Yeah, well. In my lifetime there has been one major leader I've liked, and that was Clinton. Well, John Major was a nice bloke; just a lousy leader! I trust Blair only marginally further than I trust Bush, and that's only because my opinion of Bush couldn't really get much lower. I appreciate that something had to be done about Saddam - I think we all do. But this? Looks like Blair is going to carry the can though, if any deceiving did go on. Bush has already had the CIA declare him innocent, I see! I love that you put Blair in with the Republicans there though. He's supposed to be left wing! At least, that's the ticket he got to power on. Soon left it behind. :(

I've heard more of my fair share of crap about Richard that made me want to hit things, but I don't go as far as Claude. But I've done the "stop watching them for awhile" thing.

And IMO...Clinton was an ass. I hated him and still do.

No more politics.

Richard?

And politics are fun! They make people growl and snap at each other. :) But point taken.

:lol:

[QUOTE]Darlin, if we knew just part of what these celebrities do, we woud'nt idolize many of them! Then again, they're all human just like us, so we should'nt expect them to be Saints.

Well said! You took the words right out of my mouth!

Originally posted by Mickey
Richard?

And politics are fun! They make people growl and snap at each other. :) But point taken.

:lol:

Dawson.

And yeah...if there are two things that get people riled up, it's politics and religion. And on the ILL board...the possibilities are endless. :lol:

Originally posted by dawsongirl
I've heard more of my fair share of crap about Richard that made me want to hit things, but I don't go as far as Claude. But I've done the "stop watching them for awhile" thing.


Yeah, I don't think I'd get rid of their movies and stuff. Geez, when he doesn't like em anymore that's it I guess. :eek:

No, when they come down to earth, i sometimes take them back and have to rebuy everything again. I did it with Eddie Murphy. And as much as i've heard nasty things about Mel, i still have the movies, i love almost all of them, like i said, i might just get rid of the bad ones first, or like Dawsongirl said, maybe i'll store them away for a while. Cheaper! Can i have one last say on the political thing, when Clinton was around, the economy was booming for eight years. And when Bush was TOLD about Sept 11th, it's coming out now that he already knew a lot, which means that a philandering charmer did better than a conniving vengeful cheat! I am against the war but support those poor kids losing their lives over there. And all politicians are scum, especially nowadays. But getting rid of Saddam was a great thing, now concern yourselves with North Korea before Terminator three becomes a reality!

Yes, but if you're going to go telling another country that they're not allowed nuclear weapons, it might be good to get rid of your own first, so that you don't appear like a complete hypocrite!



Just to back up your point about actors, actually Splain. I seem to have a real problem with Richard Dreyfuss at the moment! He's done some interviews just lately where he's come across as such a pretentious prat, and it's started to ruin Stand By Me. It's one of my favourite films, damn it!

Finally, someone else who can't seperate the actor from the role. Richard hasn't had a part in years, his tv show bombed, he's just old and bitter. I LOVE Stand by Me, try The secret life of altar boys, you might like it just as much. I have mentionned lately that i love this new kid Colin Farrell, says everything he wants, has fun drinking an carausing, he's young and having the time of his life. Now he's only been in Hollywood a short time and has a good solid family and friends surrounding him from his native Ireland. Lately, he came across as bored to tears promoting a film on talk shows, i wondered, has it already happened? He's become one of them, but it could also be his repulsion at the fakeness and pretentiousness of the Hollyweird crowd.

Sometimes my problem is separating an actor from the role they play. For instance, I have pretty much disliked Glenn Close since she was in Fatal Attraction just because I hated the character! How odd is that?

Yeah, but that reaction is a normal one, makes more sense than my giving up on them and getting rid of their product, only to want to get it back if they redeem themselves. I was just thinking, maybe i should use a rotation system, and put the good ones in the front and the bad ones in hte back.:lol:

Re Colin Farrell - don't give up on him just yet! He might just be rubbish at promoting things, or just doesn't like the publicity machine. Take Jason Patric. He's been a favourite of mine since The Lost Boys, but I avoid interviews with him! He hardly says a word, because he hates all that Hollywood twaddle, and he loathes talking about money and all the other things that these people so often get asked about. He gets accused of being a miserable git by the press, and maybe he is.. but it's mostly just because of the weirdness of it all. Christopher Lloyd, on the other hand... don't know what his excuse is! He was on a chat show in the UK a few years back, and just sat there saying nothing for ten minutes. Weirdo. Maybe he was stoned. :)

The way to test an actor, generally, is to see how well they handle Graham Norton! (some of them literally). :)

I am finally getting a peak at his show, and you're right, it's terrific, they always come off as interesting on HIS show. The way he goes for the jugular never would be attempted in the States. You like The Lost Boys too, one of my all time guilty pleasures! The music, the actors, the story!

Ever seen Fright Night (Chris Sarandon, Roddy McDowell, 1985)? Always popular with Lost Boys fans.

Yes, that one was great too, how about Silver Bullet? Same story with Corey Haim.

No, don't think I've seen that one, though I'm assuming werewolves. There's something good about teen movies. The Hitcher's another good one. No vampires or other monsters, just Rutger Hauer being bloody cool. :) And rather bloodthirsty.

The Hitcher is one of my all time favorite suspense films, i have it on DVD. I was shocked to see a promo on a recent DVD for Hitcher 2, but neither original star in it though!

C Thomas Howell is in Hitcher 2 actually. Haven't seen it, and don't intend to! If you've got a region free player, get the R2 Hitcher release. Great extras. Only time the R2 release is better than the R1.

Sorry, it was just that i did not recognize him, and how could the OTHER actor show up in this, he got killed in the first.

Rutger's not in part 2, no. Which I'm glad about. I've always held him in high regard as an actor, but goodness knows he's made some dreadful career decisions! Rather like Christophe Lambert. It's like some actors want to commit professional suicide.

Kevin Costner for instance. Please somebody stop that man from producing films... :)

I KNOW, another boring western! Will he never learn? After he won the Oscar and divorced his wife it was a real life Waterworld for the guy!

I want to see Open Range!! It looks really good!! :blush:

Hurry up while it's still showing, the average 12 year old will not go see this movie so it will be gone very soon. My God, you really are a Bush Republican aren't you, you even love westerns. Just joking now! :lol:

Originally posted by SPLAIN
Hurry up while it's still showing, the average 12 year old will not go see this movie so it will be gone very soon. My God, you really are a Bush Republican aren't you, you even love westerns. Just joking now! :lol: \


LOL I know I cant help it!! Its John Waynes fault!! :blush:

Hey! I like Westerns too! Just not modern ones much. I'll admit I stopped enjoying a whole bunch of them after I read Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee, but they're still fun to watch if you don't think about it too much. :) I love Western TV series too.

And I'm about as far from being a Republican as you can get! Something which makes me very relieved...

:)

Stop egging me on. :lol: Hey, i had a nasty surprise the other night. TV Land Canada started advertizing one of your favorite shows, and i hope i didn't see correctly because it looked like it might take over Lucy's nine PM time slot, guess what it was, YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT, MCGIVER! Hope they don't put the show on at 11 like they do in the States!

Originally posted by SPLAIN
Stop egging me on. :lol: Hey, i had a nasty surprise the other night. TV Land Canada started advertizing one of your favorite shows, and i hope i didn't see correctly because it looked like it might take over Lucy's nine PM time slot, guess what it was, YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT, MCGIVER! Hope they don't put the show on at 11 like they do in the States!

I hate that show Mcgyver.. :barf:

I've never seen an ep of it, but Mickey LOVES the thing, i don't care how good or bad it is, i just don't want it to take Lucy's time slot and put her on at 11, i go to bed at 11.

I'm a Republican and a Bush-supporter.. :)
:p

Doesn't surprise me one bit, good for you! You should be proud.

Originally posted by SPLAIN
Doesn't surprise me one bit, good for you! You should be proud.
You crack me up!:lol: :lol:

Originally posted by Mickey
Hey! I like Westerns too! Just not modern ones much. I'll admit I stopped enjoying a whole bunch of them after I read Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee, but they're still fun to watch if you don't think about it too much. :) I love Western TV series too.

And I'm about as far from being a Republican as you can get! Something which makes me very relieved...

:)

I had to read Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee for my English class last year. I didn't like it all that much but it really does show you the true stories of how the Americans in the 1800's treated the Indians.

Originally posted by SPLAIN
Doesn't surprise me one bit, good for you! You should be proud.

Talk about egging on.

There's nothing wrong with being a Bush supporter. At...no, this isn't a political board.

Seriously, no more politics. That's just a war waiting to happen. Another war. Hopefully with less car bombs. ohno:

Okay...I'll say one thing. I think we (the US) should just say F-you to the Iraqis and leave the country. No more deaths on our part. Thank you.

MacGyver rules! What do you guys know, anyway? You think Lucy was still funny after Desi left!

;)

Originally posted by Mickey
MacGyver rules! What do you guys know, anyway? You think Lucy was still funny after Desi left!

;)
\



well she was!! ;).

And i thought i showed such restraint there, what i WANTED to say was they SHOULD get along as they have so much in common, her age and his IQ are the exact same number. :lol: Seriously, i think Bush has handled the aftermath of September 11th very well, and this is my last thought on the subject, i just wish he would remember that the Muslim world will come back and do something else now after Iraq, and if a nuclear dirty bomb is released in New York City, the devestation to the economy and all our lives will be horrible and make September 11th look like a walk in the park. We know the US is the most powerful nation in the world, we don't need a show of force to prove it, and now look at North Korea, then Iran, then Pakistan and India, it never ends, and if the UN really did it's job, the USA wouldn't have to, i promise no more politics after this one, ok? Truce? Like Lucy and Ethel would say?

Originally posted by SPLAIN
And i thought i showed such restraint there, what i WANTED to say was they SHOULD get along as they have so much in common, her age and his IQ are the exact same number. :lol: Seriously, i think Bush has handled the aftermath of September 11th very well, and this is my last thought on the subject, i just wish he would remember that the Muslim world will come back and do something else now after Iraq, and if a nuclear dirty bomb is released in New York City, the devestation to the economy and all our lives will be horrible and make September 11th look like a walk in the park. We know the US is the most powerful nation in the world, we don't need a show of force to prove it, and now look at North Korea, then Iran, then Pakistan and India, it never ends, and if the UN really did it's job, the USA wouldn't have to, i promise no more politics after this one, ok? Truce? Like Lucy and Ethel would say?

LOL Ok good!! I rather talk Lucy anyways!! :) I hear about it all the time from my mother.. shes a rush limbaugh junkie watches the o'reiley factor ALL The time.. its really starting to annoy me!! I really like President Bush, but i cant stand to see him talk "blah blah blah.. blink 5 times.. blah blah blah blink 20 times" Thats the only thing that annoys me about him! Ok im done.. no more political talk !LOL.

Seriously, i think Bush has handled the aftermath of September 11th very well, and this is my last thought on the subject
Splain, I think ending with a complement shows alot of class.:cool:

Originally posted by Lodee
Splain, I think ending with a complement shows alot of class.:cool:

me too!!! I agree with you Lodee! :D

Whoa happen? As Ricky would say, i thought everybody on this board went for the jugular, hey, we can even discuss politics and still get along, there's hope for our world after all! If i had this discussion with Amy, a contract would have put put out on me already! Anyhoo, back on topic, did you guys know that a real contract had been put out on Desi because of his producing The Untouchables? Sinatra left Desilu in a huff when they talked about the show one time, and Desi slept with that woman that slept with both Kennedy AND head mafioso Sam Giancanna, are these guys' lives inrteresting or what?

Originally posted by SPLAIN
Anyhoo, back on topic, did you guys know that a real contract had been put out on Desi because of his producing The Untouchables? Sinatra left Desilu in a huff when they talked about the show one time, and Desi slept with that woman that slept with both Kennedy AND head mafioso Sam Giancanna, are these guys' lives inrteresting or what?

I knew about the Untouchables contract on his life and am curious to see if they mention it in the 'Desilu' documentary on Sunday -- I was surprised that they didn't even mention it on the "Mysteries and Scandals" episode that they did on Desi which they even interviewed Robert Stack for!

I am curious about the second part of the statement you made. Never heard that one before....where did you hear it? Details, I want details. And are you talking to Marilyn Monroe? Just kiddin'. Anyway, who is the lady that you are refering to? She sure got around.

I couldn't remember her name when i wrote the post, but now i do, it was Judith Exner, didn't she die of cancer a few years ago? Decades ago, she came out with a book that said that she had slept with Kennedy and also mob leader Sam Giancanna and also Desi Arnaz, who let's face it slept with every female in Hollywood except Lassie, to use an old Joan Crawford Joke! So the conspiracy theorists always made a thing about the fact that she connected the mob and JFK. Judith Cambell Exner to be precise. Oh and seing as some of you guys are experts, what was the name of Gary's first wife's sister, wasn't she someone famous also? I forget who it was.

Oh, here's another one to keep things hopping. Lucy appeared on all these quiz shows, and both were friends with Dorothy Killgallen, who did a panel show and also had a column and i recall there was this big stink when she died in an accident, because, she had said that she had a scoop on who murdered JFK, she died before she could reveal what she knew. It reminded me of John Mitchell's wife, that big mouth Martha Mitchell, who was so happy to say that Nixon was to blame for Watergate, she never named him by name but said that her husband went to jail protecting the man at the top, Mitchell was the Attorney General at the time, and a little while later, men showed up at Martha's house and injected her with Tranquilizers, or at least that's what they said it was, she died of cancer weeks or months later. Always wondered if our powers that be can kill someone with an injection of cancer.

Mitchell was the Attorney General at the time, and a little while later, men showed up at Martha's house and injected her with Tranquilizers, or at least that's what they said it was, she died of cancer weeks or months later. Always wondered if our powers that be can kill someone with an injection of cancer.
Wasn't that the plot of a Robin Cook novel?

Maybe that's where he got his inspiration for it because it happened, i lived threw that period. Martha was like me, a big mouth, and she paid dearly for it in the end.

Originally posted by SPLAIN
I couldn't remember her name when i wrote the post, but now i do, it was Judith Exner, didn't she die of cancer a few years ago? Decades ago, she came out with a book that said that she had slept with Kennedy and also mob leader Sam Giancanna and also Desi Arnaz, who let's face it slept with every female in Hollywood except Lassie, to use an old Joan Crawford Joke!

He sure did.

Only except for Lassie? I'm hoping also except for Elizabeth Taylor and Shirley Temple...

:)

Originally posted by Mickey
Only except for Lassie? I'm hoping also except for Elizabeth Taylor and Shirley Temple...

:)

I don't know....by the time the 50s rolled around they were legal!

I think we would all be very surprised by who slept with whom in that town. I mean Lucy with Red Buttons? Milton Berle with an evangelist? Richard Gere with a ******?:lol:

Freddy with Jason?

Seriously, who really cares? You throw a bunch of (often faintly self-obsessed) good looking people together in the most bizarre of circumstances, they're going to be having disastrous relationships left right and centre. The only difference between them and the rest of the world is that they've got a hundred million people peeping through their curtains.

And just what are you suggesting about Richard Gere?! :lol:

It's a famous story about him having a little gerbil in a place noone should ever put anything IN. Even Barbara Walters delicately asked him about it without getting specific one time, as it's very dangerous territory! You hear someone refer to it in an article now and then, most people are aware of the story by now.

His nose? His ear? Come on Splain, is there anywhere else you should never put anything in?

;)

Like Ethel said to Fred on their wedding night, i AIN'T TOUCHIN THAT ONE!:lol:

I was being serious! 'You should never put anything there' could be taken to be kinda homophobic, that's why I pointed it out.

Unless, of course, you really are speaking about the nasal canal...

:lol:

What exactly happened to the gerbil? 'Cause he's supposed to be a buddhist, and part of that means not harming anything. Okay I'm now officially thinking way too much about this...

It is impossible to ever call ME homophobic, i have a very clear live and let live attitude with the entire world, and i assure you i was so worried about going too far with that post that i was just looking at what should be censored and nothing else. We, here in Canada are about to become only the second country in the world to legalize gay marriage, so we are very broadminded in that area, life's too short, the gay games are even coming to our city in a few years, ok, so let's get back to the gerbil. The story goes that he had to go to the hospital to have him removed from there, can you imagine?

I know you're not homophobic. No sweat there. I was just messing with your head is all...

But I'm still worried about this gerbil. Do any gossip columns report on its current whereabouts? Did it survive to raise a family? Sell its tale to the Tattler? Get eaten by the hospital cat?

No, aside from a brown nose, it's fine! Thought i'd mess with you too!

Okay, now I know that I'm thinking about this too much, but how did he get the thing in there in the first place?!

Originally posted by SPLAIN
It's a famous story about him having a little gerbil in a place noone should ever put anything IN. Even Barbara Walters delicately asked him about it without getting specific one time, as it's very dangerous territory! You hear someone refer to it in an article now and then, most people are aware of the story by now.

Oooookkkkaaayyy...I heard a story like that about another Richard too. People apparently like spreading rumors about gerbils. :rolleyes:

You mean to tell me Sir Richard Attenborough, who made Ghandi tried that also? LOL! Richard Burton, while on a bender? Oh my God, you don't mean Richard Dawson do you?

Originally posted by SPLAIN
You mean to tell me Sir Richard Attenborough, who made Ghandi tried that also? LOL! Richard Burton, while on a bender? Oh my God, you don't mean Richard Dawson do you?

Yeah...that's who I mean. I believe a lot of the seedy stuff I hear about him, but not the thing with the gerbil!

It's actually a very common procedure in Hollyweird, i was just surprised the first time i heard it. You haven't lived until you've watched Barbara Walters herself try and ask the question without getting too obvious!

Are gerbils smaller in Hollywood?!

Well, this one's too easy! They have smaller bodies in Hollyweird but fat heads, that's gottta hurt!