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Caroline13 03-24-2021, 02:22 PM This is a condition MOST will have in one form or another before they leave this earth. I had my first sign at 18 and I've been managing it for over 60 yrs and have tried and used many supplements and one pharma drug that put me in the ER in the 80's....
Here is one Food source that can really help and I've been using and taking it for many years but for some reason just got off it a lot recently, but now back on it...right now drinking my morning coffee with 1/2 tsp of C.O. in it. I think I read a while back it's called bulletproof coffee or some term like that.
Our joints need oiled just like our autos.
C.O. also supports low thyroid. And other benefits. Great for dental health as I've been using C.O. toothpaste for some yrs and my dentists don't like that.
https://coconutoils.com/arthritis-pain/
Take this info or don't. But there is probably not anyone over say 40 or so who does not have some form of arthritis and it advances with aging. :wave:
OH Nuts! 03-24-2021, 02:31 PM This is a condition MOST will have in one form or another before they leave this earth. I had my first sign at 18 and I've been managing it for over 60 yrs and have tried and used many supplements and one pharma drug that put me in the ER in the 80's....
Here is one Food source that can really help and I've been using and taking it for many years but for some reason just got off it a lot recently, but now back on it...right now drinking my morning coffee with 1/2 tsp of C.O. in it. I think I read a while back it's called bullet coffee or some term like that.
Our joints need oiled just like our autos.
C.O. also supports low thyroid. And other benefits. Great for dental health as I've been using C.O. toothpaste for some yrs and my dentists don't like that.
https://coconutoils.com/arthritis-pain/
Take this info or don't. But there is probably not anyone over say 40 or so who does not have some form of arthritis and it advances with aging. :wave:
I have it in my knees, esp. my left. I can no longer run (maybe jog a small block)and have to take stairs slowly - up and down. I hear fish oil and cherries are supposed to be good for arthritis.
Caroline13 03-24-2021, 02:52 PM I have it in my knees, esp. my left. I can no longer run (maybe jog a small block)and have to take stairs slowly - up and down. I hear fish oil and cherries are supposed to be good for arthritis.
Oh, there are so many alleged remedies out there and I've probably tried most of them, but I'm back to concentrating on C.O. and it does other good things too.
Mine is worst in right knee, which is hip replacement side of body and the knee that the surgeon "cleaned out" back in 2017, outcome from that little clean out -- all worse, what cartlidge was left was cleaned out.
I have it in my hands and wrist, but also have a mild case in my knees. I can no longer wear my wedding rings because the finger joints swell so bad. I take an otc for the swelling. Will they ever have a cure for it?
Dude111 03-26-2021, 12:59 AM Im so sorry AB :(
I have it in my knees, esp. my left. I can no longer run (maybe jog a small block)and have to take stairs slowly - up and down. I hear fish oil and cherries are supposed to be good for arthritis.Im so sorry.... Does taking a motrin help??
Bonniegirl 03-26-2021, 02:32 AM Ya know what is good for arthritis ? Morphine, percocets , oxycodone !!:crazy::lol::D
Ya know what is good for arthritis ? Morphine, percocets , oxycodone !!:crazy::lol::D
I think I'll stick with over the counter medicine, don't want to get hooked on anything that might kill me. :eek::crazy:
Caroline13 03-26-2021, 06:38 PM I have it in my hands and wrist, but also have a mild case in my knees. I can no longer wear my wedding rings because the finger joints swell so bad. I take an otc for the swelling. Will they ever have a cure for it?
Are you certain your issues are not RA, the swelling of finger joints. Cure, nope, it's all management, certain foods do cause more issues and for me I take a lot of supplements, a drug I took yrs ago put me in the ER with stomach ulcer, so I do my own research and try a lot of things...
Caroline13 03-26-2021, 06:41 PM I think I'll stick with over the counter medicine, don't want to get hooked on anything that might kill me. :eek::crazy:
Can't agree more, when I had a hip replacement I had to be on oxy for a while and could NOT wait to get off it, talk about side effects and then I had it again when ended up with knee infection from it all, and again could not wait to get off it.
I have a 6 hr schedule of minor otc pain stuff and make sure I have food in my stomach when I take them, otherwise supplements.
Are you certain your issues are not RA, the swelling of finger joints. Cure, nope, it's all management, certain foods do cause more issues and for me I take a lot of supplements, a drug I took yrs ago put me in the ER with stomach ulcer, so I do my own research and try a lot of things...
Could be RA. I need to go back to my doctor & let him check it out. I've stayed away since all the Covid drama. I take Aleve when it's really hurting, I also use Ben-gay or Icy Hot on my fingers & wrist. It helps a little. I'm not sure what foods to avoid or what supplements would be good for it.
Caroline13 03-27-2021, 02:58 PM Could be RA. I need to go back to my doctor & let him check it out. I've stayed away since all the Covid drama. I take Aleve when it's really hurting, I also use Ben-gay or Icy Hot on my fingers & wrist. It helps a little. I'm not sure what foods to avoid or what supplements would be good for it.
Thinking about what you said. I've tried so many topicals and ointments and the BEST of all of what I've used and many I still do is: Topricin for Pain Homeopathic Lotion, it contains 11 homeopathic solutions and I can't say enough about it...You can find it everywhere and that includes amazon and ebay and I buy mine from a online supplement company. Everything is temporary so know that.
On foods do a search on Inflammatory foods and maybe you can eliminate some that could be causing more harm for you. Also listen to your body when you've eaten something that could be causing more pain. Sugars are notorious, nothing good about them for our health, but are addicting ... I've been down that road.
OH Nuts! 03-27-2021, 04:01 PM Oh, there are so many alleged remedies out there and I've probably tried most of them, but I'm back to concentrating on C.O. and it does other good things too.
Mine is worst in right knee, which is hip replacement side of body and the knee that the surgeon "cleaned out" back in 2017, outcome from that little clean out -- all worse, what cartlidge was left was cleaned out.
What is C.O?
OH Nuts! 03-27-2021, 04:03 PM IKm so sorry AB :(
Im so sorry.... Does taking a motrin help??
Thanks for the kind thoughts. Fortunately no pain but I get very sore & achy if I try to climb stairs too fast or jog more than half a block.
Caroline13 03-27-2021, 04:43 PM What is C.O?
Coconut Oil. There is a lot of info on C.O. and Arthritis and C.O. also supports thyroid health, and stories out there on people who have used C.O. in dementia conditions...which is a cruel/terrible battle.
https://coconutoils.com/arthritis-pain/
https://www.painpathways.org/can-coconut-oil-reduce-pain/
I also use about 1/2 tsp of C.O. in my morning coffee, it's called bulletcoffee.
Bonniegirl 03-27-2021, 07:45 PM I think I'll stick with over the counter medicine, don't want to get hooked on anything that might kill me. :eek::crazy:
I was just kidding ............... sort of!!:lol::crazy:
I like the old fashioned way" Fun" medicines and a shot of whiskey!! :crazy::D
Dude111 03-28-2021, 12:57 AM Thanks for the kind thoughts. Fortunately no pain but I get very sore & achy if I try to climb stairs too fast or jog more than half a block.
I am so very sorrry....... Im glad you dont have any pain!!
OH Nuts! 03-28-2021, 11:23 AM Thinking about what you said. I've tried so many topicals and ointments and the BEST of all of what I've used and many I still do is: Topricin for Pain Homeopathic Lotion, it contains 11 homeopathic solutions and I can't say enough about it...You can find it everywhere and that includes amazon and ebay and I buy mine from a online supplement company. Everything is temporary so know that.
On foods do a search on Inflammatory foods and maybe you can eliminate some that could be causing more harm for you. Also listen to your body when you've eaten something that could be causing more pain. Sugars are notorious, nothing good about them for our health, but are addicting ... I've been down that road.
Agree 100% with what you said about sugar. It is often the cause of many conditions. They say cancer cells feast on sugar. It also is supposed to aggravate arthritis. Also sugar includes all fast-acting carbohydrates besides”sweets” as they break down to fast-acting glucose in the body (i.e. white bread, bagels, potatoes etc.). And many studies have shown it’s addictive qualities.
Indeed as a diabetic I’ve often got nasty readings if I ate too much of any of these.
These days I try to do low-carb (under 80g a day) and trying to adjust to Metformin—it’s notorious for gastric distress. But I find when I eat a good amount of green vegetables at a meal it doesn’t affect me too much.
Caroline13 03-28-2021, 03:59 PM Agree 100% with what you said about sugar. It is often the cause of many conditions. They say cancer cells feast on sugar. It also is supposed to aggravate arthritis. Also sugar includes all fast-acting carbohydrates besides”sweets” as they break down to fast-acting glucose in the body (i.e. white bread, bagels, potatoes etc.). And many studies have shown it’s addictive qualities.
Indeed as a diabetic I’ve often got nasty readings if I ate too much of any of these.
These days I try to do low-carb (under 80g a day) and trying to adjust to Metformin—it’s notorious for gastric distress. But I find when I eat a good amount of green vegetables at a meal it doesn’t affect me too much.
I've followed many with Type II and many do take Berberine and truly clean up their diets. A friend I knew was forever trying new pharma diabetes drugs. And dealing with their side effects...last I heard she was taking Metformin. Grape Seed Extract is also said to reduce diabetes.
https://www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingredientmono-1126/berberine
OH Nuts! 03-28-2021, 04:16 PM I've followed many with Type II and many do take Berberine and truly clean up their diets. A friend I knew was forever trying new pharma diabetes drugs. And dealing with their side effects...last I heard she was taking Metformin. Grape Seed Extract is also said to reduce diabetes.
https://www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingredientmono-1126/berberine
Thanks. I’m keeping an open mind on this. But Metformin is supposed to be very effective—maybe I’ll cut back to two pills a day. But I find that when I eat “salad” vegetables and low-glycemic fruit with my meals it doesn’t bother me much. I may have eased into a full dosage too quickly. When I took one or two pills a day I had no or little upset.
I’ll read up on your suggestions. Thanks again!
Caroline13 03-28-2021, 05:24 PM I don't have the diabetes challenge and don't want it. If it was ever in my family I don't know. But for me and I believe it's done wonders, just eliminating bringing bread into my house, and it's been over 10 yrs. I started by buying gluten free and it was too dense, heavy so I said to myself, just don't buy it anymore.
My little "sandwich rolls" are little slices of turkey and beef balony, mayo, slice of onion and I roll it up and that my sandwich. Some days a chuck of avocado and even slices of garlic. My last A1C was 5.5. I like to keep it there but I know some veggies I eat are carbs. And now and then a gluten free thin crust pizza.
OH Nuts! 03-28-2021, 10:47 PM I don't have the diabetes challenge and don't want it. If it was ever in my family I don't know. But for me and I believe it's done wonders, just eliminating bringing bread into my house, and it's been over 10 yrs. I started by buying gluten free and it was too dense, heavy so I said to myself, just don't buy it anymore.
My little "sandwich rolls" are little slices of turkey and beef balony, mayo, slice of onion and I roll it up and that my sandwich. Some days a chuck of avocado and even slices of garlic. My last A1C was 5.5. I like to keep it there but I know some veggies I eat are carbs. And now and then a gluten free thin crust pizza.
A lot of it is genetic; it runs in my family although most had relatively mild cases. And I don’t blame you for not wanting it because you really have to watch what you eat if you don’t want the disease to quickly progress.
My last A1C was 6.2 even with exercise and being pretty decent with my diet. But because I was starting to get high morning readings, and just wanted to get it down to normal, I decided to start Metformin. But boy, sometimes it does a number on my stomach.
An A1C of 5.5 is very good for someone in their 80s. I SO miss bread and potatoes, and seldom have them. Mostly I use the Trader Joe’s low carb wraps for something sandwich-y.
Caroline13 05-18-2021, 02:13 PM O.N. I don't know how advanced the arthritis is, but it does advance with age. One thing I believe is missing in our bodies is adequate Boron, the U.S. soils are pretty deficient. Isreal is said to have high Boron in soils and very little arthritis in that country.
I've been taking Born but finding that I'm not taking enough. So am upping my daily dose now to 9mg two times a day and will go from there.
Here is a good site with a lot of good info on Boron and even dosing.
Nothing Boring About Boron
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4712861/
Dosing is talked about in the above and that 20mg for adults is safe from their research and for whatever it's worth nothing is known for sure ... other factors have to be addressed also with arthritis.
Foods higher in Boron
https://www.verywellhealth.com/best-boron-rich-foods-5092054
Note: They mention wine and beer, my dad drank beer all his life and had hardly any arthritic issues and he lived to 95. Not recommending beer but sayin.
The person who told me about needing more than a measly 3mg is taking about 35mg daily and no arthritic issues hardly anymore.
This is good info as the world deals with arthritis in one form or another eventually. Info you will not hear from mainstream MD's...
Wawwie 05-18-2021, 03:03 PM Ya know what is good for arthritis ? Morphine, percocets , oxycodone !!:crazy::lol::D
Omega XL is also really good. It's drug free, from the green Lipped mussel (fatty acids) from the pristine waters of New Zealand. It also has some other great stuff. I used to have horrible joint pain in my hips but since taking Omega XL, the pain is down to 99% pain free. Only thing is that Omega XL takes about 2 months to fully work. I've been taking it since last year and I feel fantastic.
Caroline13 05-18-2021, 04:24 PM I used green lipid mussels over the years, used so much it's not funny. I'm working to hopefully getting to the root of what is missing in our foods from our soils.
Here is a comment I found very interesting.
Vets are often wiser than regular doctors :)) Boron in large doses is a poison, even though small amounts of it are present in the body. The idea of it being poisonous has created a silly scare about the use of boron. However, in small doses such as 300-600mgs daily it is not only safe, it is essential in preventing and treating arthritic pain and stiffness -- particularly in areas of the world where there is very little natural boron in the soil. Do some Google style research on the relationship between Boron and health around the world--it is a fascinating story.
And I'm at 18 mg daily now. If I only knew about this missing mineral years ago, who knows what I'd be like today.
biffbronson 05-18-2021, 05:10 PM Interesting list of foods higher in Boron, thanks for the link. I eat many of those -- I like to dehydrate grapes and make my own juicy raisins.
Caroline13 05-18-2021, 05:28 PM Interesting list of foods higher in Boron, thanks for the link. I eat many of those -- I like to dehydrate grapes and make my own juicy raisins.
I'll bet your homemade raisins are great, too much work for me, but I probably eat a small handful of organic raisins daily. Raisins are high in sugar and I am on top of consuming sugars. In the Grape Seed Ex, the sugar content is low I believe as they are made from the "seeds" which are bitter.
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