vitoscotti
03-16-2021, 01:04 AM
Above average
Ward
Fred
Eddie
Judy
Violet
Aunt Martha
Gilbert
Gus
Mr Haskell
Average
June
Wally
Uncle Billy
Chester
Below Averge
Beaver
Larry
Tooey
Way Below Average
Whitey
Lumpy
Larry's mother
A pretty good ranking there with one exception:
I'd put Fred Rutherford no higher than in the "average column". He's definitely a case of the 'Dunning Kruger Effect'.
GentlemanJim
03-16-2021, 01:51 PM
I agree about Fred, he's often portrayed as a dolt.
I also question Aunt Martha. Surely if she was all that smart then she would realize that she's only advertising her swollen ego with all the 'Bronson bloodline' nonsense.
stevea
03-16-2021, 09:33 PM
Here's mine. For people with no evidence from the show that they're above average, I moved them to average. I think Beaver is naive but of average intelligence.
I also think there's commentary in the show to make one think Wally is above average. And Eddie has to cheat on a history test. He's probably still average, but certainly not above.
Oh, I also added staff from Grant Avenue School.
Above average
Wally
Ward
Judy
Gus
Mrs. Rayburn
Miss Landers
Miss Canfield
Penny
Average
Fred
Beaver
Eddie
June
Uncle Billy
Chester
Richard
Aunt Martha
Mr Haskell
Violet
Gilbert
Below Average
Larry
Tooey
Way Below Average
Whitey
Lumpy
Larry's mother
Mrs. Murdock
Unknown
Angela Valentine
Tankeryanker
03-16-2021, 10:45 PM
Sigh, I have this feeling that poor June will stay in the average category for everyone's opinion.
stevea
03-16-2021, 11:23 PM
Well, when Beaver was trying to write the Mother's Day essay, June told him they had to fire her from a job due to getting her receipts all mixed up. I don't remember any mention of something that would indicate above-average IQ.
When it came to solving problems in the family, she almost always deferred to Ward. However one time when she DID solve a problem, she did a brilliant job (maneuvering Wally into accepting a more-suitable suit). Maybe based on that she should be above average!
Just thought of another one: everyone except her hem-hawed around about Wally's haircomb, even the school principal. She finally just told him to fix his hair, which was the most sensible thing to do.
Common sense should be part of IQ--maybe she should be above average and the OP was right (which would probably lower Beaver again). What do you think?
vitoscotti
03-17-2021, 02:18 AM
A pretty good ranking there with one exception:
I'd put Fred Rutherford no higher than in the "average column". He's definitely a case of the 'Dunning Kruger Effect'.
Fred was a tough call for me. He's a knucklehead. But is he a blithering idiot? Holds apparently a high paying job working with Ward. Supports his family. Lives in a nice house. Travels all over the world on vacations. Is well spoken and articulate.
Babalu
03-17-2021, 03:15 AM
Sigh, I have this feeling that poor June will stay in the average category for everyone's opinion.
Cut me some slack, Jack!
Torgo
03-17-2021, 07:46 AM
I'm not buying Whitey being lower than Richard or Gilbert.
howilu
03-17-2021, 09:31 AM
Of all of Beaver's friends, Whitey got the best grades of any of them.
vitoscotti
03-18-2021, 09:40 AM
In S2 EP29 "Beaver's Hero" Beaver asks his mom what kind of student she was? June says "average"
Whitey is asked to spell whom. He spells it h-o-m-e. Sub teacher Mr Willet says there is a "W" in the word. Whitey's final attempt is h-o-m-e-w.
vitoscotti
05-29-2021, 05:10 AM
"Beaver's IQ" S4 E9. The end of Beaver being a dope? Beaver now has a high IQ? Isn't the whole show based on him being not too bright? Mrs Rayburn says top 10 in class. Not top 10%. There's only 10 students in the class. He could be 10th out of 10.
stevea
05-29-2021, 08:39 AM
Can Beaver have a high IQ and still be naive with no common sense, and not work up to his potential in school?
For one thing it contradicts S1 Ep 14 Part Time Genius. For another thing they shouldn't have gone back to the well and redone that episode.