Frank Gannucci
02-26-2021, 08:12 AM
Honeymooners Episode Reviews: “Ring Salesman” (’51 version) & “Quiz Show” (’51):
Episode #7
TV: This episode was a part of The Honeymooners: The Really Lost Debut Episodes (episodes #1-6.) This special was shown in 1993 on Disney Channel (yes, THAT Disney Channel) and again in 2000 on TV Land. In 2019, Decades channel started airing this episode and it is attached to "Bread" & "Ralph Threatens To Leave."
VHS & DVD: Attached to “Bread”, “Razor Blades”, “New TV Set”, “Ralph Threatens To Leave”, “Alice & Ralph Get Dressed For A Date Last Night”, “Honeymooners Xmas Party” (’51 version), “Ring Salesman” (Ed Sullivan show version), “New Bowling Ball”, “The Turkey”,” “Lost Baby”, “Quiz Show”, “”Halloween Party”, “Cold”, “Pickles”, “Jellybeans” & “Six Months To Live” (’52 version).
Air Date: Sat. 12/7/51
"Ring Salesman" (Dec. 1951):
In the early 2010s, the script for this episode was found in the UCLA Special Collections Library, Box 109, Folder 24.
In 2020, this episode was colorized on YouTube.
Trixie comes by. Alice is talking about how Joe is going to help Alice choose a ring to get for Ralph. She leaves. Alice goes into the bedroom. Ed & Ralph are going bowling against the same team. Ralph isn’t worried about the team. Ralph finds a note: Dear Alice, meet me at the same spot this afternoon and I will take you around to a few places. Then I will sneak up to your place tonight after Ralph leaves for bowling. Signed Joe.” Ralph thinks that Alice and Joe are lovers and that Joe is tearing down an “empire” that took him 12 years to build. Ed said that maybe it isn’t Alice’s fault since he knew a married guy whose wife was sitting at a bar one night drinking and some guy came around and picked her up. Ed: “Don’t let this upset you because you will bowl lousy tonight.” Ralph can’t bowl tonight due to this situation. Ed leaves. Alice comes out. Alice asks for Ralph to hurry up and eat so he can go bowl. Ralph says that he might NOT go bowling. Alice: “Ralph, you got to go.” Ralph says that he might have been leaving Alice alone too much. Alice: “Every man needs a night out.” Ralph: “Some guys need an afternoon out.” Alice says that Ralph is acting stupid and Ralph agrees that nobody knows more about him being stupid than Alice does.
Alice asks if something fell on Ralph’s head. Ralph: “Yes, the whole world.” Alice asks what is on Ralph’s mind. Ralph tells Alice to explain the note. Alice explains that she can’t so Ralph says that he will. Ralph: “You have been playing me for a dope for a long time.” Ralph accuses Alice of going to nightclubs while he is out as well as running around with a guy named Joe. Alice: “Ralph, this is all in your head.” Ralph: “There is nothing in my head.” Ralph says that he doesn’t waste his money on expensive things so he takes the little money he has and buys a twin-burial plot.
Joe comes in. Joe has the ring. Ralph challenges Joe to fight. Alice explains that Joe is a jeweler. Alice was going to give Ralph a ring for Christmas. Alice apologizes to Joe. Joe doesn’t mind. He leaves. Ralph doesn’t get the ring at least for now. Cue the Ralph-is-remorseful-for-what-he-did-to-Alice-bit. Ralph says that he is jealous of Alice. Alice not only forgives Ralph but she thanks her because not every wife that has a husband who is still jealous of her after 12 years of married life. They hug and kiss.
Like the 1954 & 1953 seasons, the 1951 season has two episodes with Christmas themes.
Episode #8
TV: This episode is a part of The Honeymooners: The Really Lost Debut Episodes (episodes #1-6.) This special was shown in 1993 on Disney Channel (yes, THAT Disney Channel) and again in 2000 on TV Land. In 2019, Decades I believe paired this episode with either the '57 version of "Manager of The Baseball Team."
VHS: Attached to "Bread", "Razor Blades", "New TV Set", "Ralph Threatens To Leave", & "Ring Salesman."
DVD: Attached to "Bread", "Razor Blades", "New TV Set", "Ralph Threatens To Leave", “Ralph and Alice Get Dressed For A Dance Last Night” (aka “The Dance”, "Ring Salesman" (JGS and ESS versions), "Quiz Show" (’52 version), "XMas Party" ('51 version), "Cold", "New Bowling Ball", "The Turkey", "Lost Baby", "Halloween Party", "Pickles", "Jellybeans" & "Six Months To Live."
Air Date: 12/14/51
"Quiz Show" ('51):
Ralph and Alice come home from being on a quiz show with a lot of Krinkley Krax Cereal. Ralph: "Well, are you satisfied? Are you satisfied?" Alice: "Yes, I am satisfied. I am satisfied." Ralph: "Well, you ought to be satisfied. Thanks to your wrong answer on that quiz program, we have now won a year's supply of Krinkley Krax." You think that Ralph would be happy that Alice tried her best to answer that quiz show question, but no. This is Ralph Kramden, we are talking about people. Alice: "During the ride home in the cab, you were yelling at me from the top of your lungs." Ralph: "I had too. There were so many boxes between us that I could
not see you."
Ralph goes on a tangent on what would happen if they had won. Him and Alice also have an argument when they talk about there family members. Ralph says those Krinkley Krax are no prize. Alice: "Well, what harm can it do? We can use them for something." Ralph agrees. He can have them for all his meals as well as other things they can do with the cereal. He says all this in sarcasm. Alice is upset and goes into the bedroom. Ralph goes to the bedroom door and asks her if she is going to fill up his lunchbox for tomorrow. Alice opens the door and hits Ralph in the nose with the door. Ralph is steamed. He starts to fix his own lunch for tomorrow. He will also do everything for him himself and plans to show her who the man of the house is.
The Nortons come in. This is the first time that Art & Joyce were in the same scene. Trixie goes to the bedroom with Alice. Ed looks around and says: "Looks like you robbed the A&P." Ralph then talks about what happened on the quiz show and how he answered all his questions correctly and how Alice didn't. Ralph: “They said: Name a big town in Chicago. I said Illinois.” I think Jackie made a blooper there. Ed says that one time he was on a quiz show; he couldn't answer the first question that they gave him because of nervousness. That being his first name. Ha!
"Happy" Larry Barnabee along with several other people come in. This Larry Barnabee is a different one than the one that appeared in the remakes of this episode. He explains Alice's question was: "Who was President after Grover Cleveland?" He assumed that it was wrong. He later found out that Alice was right since Grover Cleveland had two unconsecutive terms. That's the first time that quiz show made a mistake. Since Alice got her question right, it was now Ralph's turn. D'oh. Not something that Ralph wants to hear.
They set up the recording audio device so they can record the host's question and Ralph's answer. "Happy" Larry Barnabee: "Mr. Kramden, what did Marconi invent?" Ralph: "Marcaroni." Ha! Ralph gets told that his answer was wrong. Ralph has been mad at Alice for no reason. The host of the quiz show says: "Mr. Kramden, too bad you are not as smart as your wife." The Nortons leave. Ralph apologizes to Alice and she accepts.
Credit I think goes to (the original) Bill's 'Mooners Archives, eBay.com, the now defunct tv.com, Honeymooners Lost Episodes Book, tvguide.com, honeymooners.net, Honeymooners Lost Episodes DVD booklet, Wikipedia.org, the now defunct Yahoo Groups You're A Riot! & Amazon.com.
Episode #7
TV: This episode was a part of The Honeymooners: The Really Lost Debut Episodes (episodes #1-6.) This special was shown in 1993 on Disney Channel (yes, THAT Disney Channel) and again in 2000 on TV Land. In 2019, Decades channel started airing this episode and it is attached to "Bread" & "Ralph Threatens To Leave."
VHS & DVD: Attached to “Bread”, “Razor Blades”, “New TV Set”, “Ralph Threatens To Leave”, “Alice & Ralph Get Dressed For A Date Last Night”, “Honeymooners Xmas Party” (’51 version), “Ring Salesman” (Ed Sullivan show version), “New Bowling Ball”, “The Turkey”,” “Lost Baby”, “Quiz Show”, “”Halloween Party”, “Cold”, “Pickles”, “Jellybeans” & “Six Months To Live” (’52 version).
Air Date: Sat. 12/7/51
"Ring Salesman" (Dec. 1951):
In the early 2010s, the script for this episode was found in the UCLA Special Collections Library, Box 109, Folder 24.
In 2020, this episode was colorized on YouTube.
Trixie comes by. Alice is talking about how Joe is going to help Alice choose a ring to get for Ralph. She leaves. Alice goes into the bedroom. Ed & Ralph are going bowling against the same team. Ralph isn’t worried about the team. Ralph finds a note: Dear Alice, meet me at the same spot this afternoon and I will take you around to a few places. Then I will sneak up to your place tonight after Ralph leaves for bowling. Signed Joe.” Ralph thinks that Alice and Joe are lovers and that Joe is tearing down an “empire” that took him 12 years to build. Ed said that maybe it isn’t Alice’s fault since he knew a married guy whose wife was sitting at a bar one night drinking and some guy came around and picked her up. Ed: “Don’t let this upset you because you will bowl lousy tonight.” Ralph can’t bowl tonight due to this situation. Ed leaves. Alice comes out. Alice asks for Ralph to hurry up and eat so he can go bowl. Ralph says that he might NOT go bowling. Alice: “Ralph, you got to go.” Ralph says that he might have been leaving Alice alone too much. Alice: “Every man needs a night out.” Ralph: “Some guys need an afternoon out.” Alice says that Ralph is acting stupid and Ralph agrees that nobody knows more about him being stupid than Alice does.
Alice asks if something fell on Ralph’s head. Ralph: “Yes, the whole world.” Alice asks what is on Ralph’s mind. Ralph tells Alice to explain the note. Alice explains that she can’t so Ralph says that he will. Ralph: “You have been playing me for a dope for a long time.” Ralph accuses Alice of going to nightclubs while he is out as well as running around with a guy named Joe. Alice: “Ralph, this is all in your head.” Ralph: “There is nothing in my head.” Ralph says that he doesn’t waste his money on expensive things so he takes the little money he has and buys a twin-burial plot.
Joe comes in. Joe has the ring. Ralph challenges Joe to fight. Alice explains that Joe is a jeweler. Alice was going to give Ralph a ring for Christmas. Alice apologizes to Joe. Joe doesn’t mind. He leaves. Ralph doesn’t get the ring at least for now. Cue the Ralph-is-remorseful-for-what-he-did-to-Alice-bit. Ralph says that he is jealous of Alice. Alice not only forgives Ralph but she thanks her because not every wife that has a husband who is still jealous of her after 12 years of married life. They hug and kiss.
Like the 1954 & 1953 seasons, the 1951 season has two episodes with Christmas themes.
Episode #8
TV: This episode is a part of The Honeymooners: The Really Lost Debut Episodes (episodes #1-6.) This special was shown in 1993 on Disney Channel (yes, THAT Disney Channel) and again in 2000 on TV Land. In 2019, Decades I believe paired this episode with either the '57 version of "Manager of The Baseball Team."
VHS: Attached to "Bread", "Razor Blades", "New TV Set", "Ralph Threatens To Leave", & "Ring Salesman."
DVD: Attached to "Bread", "Razor Blades", "New TV Set", "Ralph Threatens To Leave", “Ralph and Alice Get Dressed For A Dance Last Night” (aka “The Dance”, "Ring Salesman" (JGS and ESS versions), "Quiz Show" (’52 version), "XMas Party" ('51 version), "Cold", "New Bowling Ball", "The Turkey", "Lost Baby", "Halloween Party", "Pickles", "Jellybeans" & "Six Months To Live."
Air Date: 12/14/51
"Quiz Show" ('51):
Ralph and Alice come home from being on a quiz show with a lot of Krinkley Krax Cereal. Ralph: "Well, are you satisfied? Are you satisfied?" Alice: "Yes, I am satisfied. I am satisfied." Ralph: "Well, you ought to be satisfied. Thanks to your wrong answer on that quiz program, we have now won a year's supply of Krinkley Krax." You think that Ralph would be happy that Alice tried her best to answer that quiz show question, but no. This is Ralph Kramden, we are talking about people. Alice: "During the ride home in the cab, you were yelling at me from the top of your lungs." Ralph: "I had too. There were so many boxes between us that I could
not see you."
Ralph goes on a tangent on what would happen if they had won. Him and Alice also have an argument when they talk about there family members. Ralph says those Krinkley Krax are no prize. Alice: "Well, what harm can it do? We can use them for something." Ralph agrees. He can have them for all his meals as well as other things they can do with the cereal. He says all this in sarcasm. Alice is upset and goes into the bedroom. Ralph goes to the bedroom door and asks her if she is going to fill up his lunchbox for tomorrow. Alice opens the door and hits Ralph in the nose with the door. Ralph is steamed. He starts to fix his own lunch for tomorrow. He will also do everything for him himself and plans to show her who the man of the house is.
The Nortons come in. This is the first time that Art & Joyce were in the same scene. Trixie goes to the bedroom with Alice. Ed looks around and says: "Looks like you robbed the A&P." Ralph then talks about what happened on the quiz show and how he answered all his questions correctly and how Alice didn't. Ralph: “They said: Name a big town in Chicago. I said Illinois.” I think Jackie made a blooper there. Ed says that one time he was on a quiz show; he couldn't answer the first question that they gave him because of nervousness. That being his first name. Ha!
"Happy" Larry Barnabee along with several other people come in. This Larry Barnabee is a different one than the one that appeared in the remakes of this episode. He explains Alice's question was: "Who was President after Grover Cleveland?" He assumed that it was wrong. He later found out that Alice was right since Grover Cleveland had two unconsecutive terms. That's the first time that quiz show made a mistake. Since Alice got her question right, it was now Ralph's turn. D'oh. Not something that Ralph wants to hear.
They set up the recording audio device so they can record the host's question and Ralph's answer. "Happy" Larry Barnabee: "Mr. Kramden, what did Marconi invent?" Ralph: "Marcaroni." Ha! Ralph gets told that his answer was wrong. Ralph has been mad at Alice for no reason. The host of the quiz show says: "Mr. Kramden, too bad you are not as smart as your wife." The Nortons leave. Ralph apologizes to Alice and she accepts.
Credit I think goes to (the original) Bill's 'Mooners Archives, eBay.com, the now defunct tv.com, Honeymooners Lost Episodes Book, tvguide.com, honeymooners.net, Honeymooners Lost Episodes DVD booklet, Wikipedia.org, the now defunct Yahoo Groups You're A Riot! & Amazon.com.