julian bozo
02-18-2021, 07:09 PM
What happened to Billy from Season to Season?
He was in every episode 1 season then never seen
again.
He was in every episode 1 season then never seen
again.
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View Full Version : Billy? julian bozo 02-18-2021, 07:09 PM What happened to Billy from Season to Season? He was in every episode 1 season then never seen again. Novera 02-19-2021, 08:17 PM He was definitely one of those "hey the show is dying, we need to shoe horn in a new cute kid for laughs" character who was added to the show. They probably thought it would be good to have a new kid since Jonathan and Samantha were already much older by then. He probably didn't test well with audiences (although I thought he had some really funny moments) and they decided to remove him from the show (to also save $). I think the reason on the show was that Ms. Rosini was able to take care of him now. You can tell it was a quick/sudden decision because they didn't really give it much air time, it was something like "hey where's billy?" "Oh Ms. Rosini has him" and then on with the show with no mention of him again. TVFactFan 02-21-2021, 03:59 AM He was definitely one of those "hey the show is dying, we need to shoe horn in a new cute kid for laughs" character who was added to the show. They probably thought it would be good to have a new kid since Jonathan and Samantha were already much older by then. He probably didn't test well with audiences (although I thought he had some really funny moments) and they decided to remove him from the show (to also save $). I think the reason on the show was that Ms. Rosini was able to take care of him now. You can tell it was a quick/sudden decision because they didn't really give it much air time, it was something like "hey where's billy?" "Oh Ms. Rosini has him" and then on with the show with no mention of him again. I noticed how I was seeing him a few weeks ago and now its like he never existed Novera 02-21-2021, 02:05 PM I noticed how I was seeing him a few weeks ago and now its like he never existed As strange as it is when show's did this back then, today I find it kind of an endearing 80's tv trope. New kid shows up out of nowhere, he's given the classic catchy "please let this be a catch phrase" line to repeat... then when it doesn't work out *POOF* he/she is gone. It's funny to me now, but I growing up (watching these shows) I'd wonder wtf happened to the new character? TVFactFan 02-21-2021, 07:20 PM As strange as it is when show's did this back then, today I find it kind of an endearing 80's tv trope. New kid shows up out of nowhere, he's given the classic catchy "please let this be a catch phrase" line to repeat... then when it doesn't work out *POOF* he/she is gone. It's funny to me now, but I growing up (watching these shows) I'd wonder wtf happened to the new character? Wonder how you found out that information back then. TV guide? Because like you said as a viewer you would be wondering what happened to him opus 02-21-2021, 07:29 PM Wonder how you found out that information back then. TV guide? Because like you said as a viewer you would be wondering what happened to him Yeah, TV Guide, other entertainment magazines (like People), newspaper TV sections, Entertainment Tonight started in ‘81. Not as easy as today, but if someone really cared they could probably track down the info. rcbrad 02-21-2021, 09:55 PM I read somewhere that he was written out of the show because they wanted to concentrate more on the romance between Tony and Angela, since it was going to be the last season. Novera 02-22-2021, 06:15 PM I read somewhere that he was written out of the show because they wanted to concentrate more on the romance between Tony and Angela, since it was going to be the last season. You know what that makes sense, because they had built that tension for all those years already. So they must'vefigured "Ok lets give them what they want, they are finally together and the show is going to be mainly about their new relationship." TMC 01-24-2022, 03:30 AM He was definitely one of those "hey the show is dying, we need to shoe horn in a new cute kid for laughs" character who was added to the show. They probably thought it would be good to have a new kid since Jonathan and Samantha were already much older by then. He probably didn't test well with audiences (although I thought he had some really funny moments) and they decided to remove him from the show (to also save $). I think the reason on the show was that Ms. Rosini was able to take care of him now. You can tell it was a quick/sudden decision because they didn't really give it much air time, it was something like "hey where's billy?" "Oh Ms. Rosini has him" and then on with the show with no mention of him again. I think that people also particularly didn't like the Billy arc because Tony and Angela were now written as if they had little to no experience at raising kids and being parents despite the existence of Sam and Jonathan. TMC 01-24-2022, 03:47 AM I read somewhere that he was written out of the show because they wanted to concentrate more on the romance between Tony and Angela, since it was going to be the last season. I've heard conflicting reports that Tony Danza didn't like the idea of adding another kid to the household and preceded to make life miserable for Jonathan Halyalkar, the young actor who played Billy. And since Tony was the star of the show, he pretty much had to get what he wanted. MikeLutton 01-26-2022, 04:26 AM i think they said his grandma got better and he went back to live with her Novera 01-26-2022, 05:36 PM I think that people also particularly didn't like the Billy arc because Tony and Angela were now written as if they had little to no experience at raising kids and being parents despite the existence of Sam and Jonathan. Oh that's actually a great point, they were fumbling their words and acting like first time parents with him! Its like the writers got all excited about this new writing opportunity, forgetting this isn't a NEW show about a new couple who just had their first baby. Novera 01-26-2022, 05:38 PM i think they said his grandma got better and he went back to live with her If I remember correctly it was also a throw away line, blurted out in a few seconds and never brought up again along with Billy. Sometimes I wonder about these child actors, they have all this pressure to get the job from their parents, land a spot on a huge show... then get written out. When he saw the new episodes playing on tv without him existing in their world anymore, I wonder how he felt! TMC 01-31-2022, 01:04 AM I read somewhere that he was written out of the show because they wanted to concentrate more on the romance between Tony and Angela, since it was going to be the last season. To follow up what I previously said, according (https://web.archive.org/web/20070110100727/http://www.jumptheshark.com/w/whostheboss.htm) to the so called "supermarket tabloids" of the day, Jonathan Halyalkar, the actor who played Billy, wasn't really that good, and caused more disruptions than work got done; the stories quoted Tony Danza as being frustrated (https://www.datalounge.com/thread/11391056-who-s-the-boss-) with the tyke for constantly blowing lines, running around on the set, etc. TMC 04-14-2022, 02:43 AM Oh that's actually a great point, they were fumbling their words and acting like first time parents with him! Its like the writers got all excited about this new writing opportunity, forgetting this isn't a NEW show about a new couple who just had their first baby. Also, Billy kind of threw a monkey wrench into that unique pseudo sibling relationship between Sam and Jonathan. I liked that Sam took on this kind of "cool big sister" (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CoolBigSis) role for Jonathan. I'm guessing that the producers thought that it would be cute to give Sam another pseudo little brother in Billy, but they don't really interact that much from what I can recall. Billy just comes across as some little brat that Tony and Angela have to babysit for while Billy's grandma is on the mend. Like I said before, Billy just didn't seem like an average, down-to-earth, everyday kid like Sam and Jonathan were in the early years. He came across as one of those annoying sitcom kids who always has to get the best of adults and has to make cute little one-liners or remarks. TMC 04-14-2022, 02:55 AM He was definitely one of those "hey the show is dying, we need to shoe horn in a new cute kid for laughs" character who was added to the show. They probably thought it would be good to have a new kid since Jonathan and Samantha were already much older by then. He probably didn't test well with audiences (although I thought he had some really funny moments) and they decided to remove him from the show (to also save $). I think the reason on the show was that Ms. Rosini was able to take care of him now. You can tell it was a quick/sudden decision because they didn't really give it much air time, it was something like "hey where's billy?" "Oh Ms. Rosini has him" and then on with the show with no mention of him again. The show was already clearly starting to show its age when they came up with the idea of moving Sam ahead a year in school. Maybe the writers thought that it would create a fresh dynamic to have father and daughter attend the same college at the same time (kind of like that Rodney Dangerfield movie Back to School). TMC 06-04-2022, 01:43 AM As strange as it is when show's did this back then, today I find it kind of an endearing 80's tv trope. New kid shows up out of nowhere, he's given the classic catchy "please let this be a catch phrase" line to repeat... then when it doesn't work out *POOF* he/she is gone. It's funny to me now, but I growing up (watching these shows) I'd wonder wtf happened to the new character? Who's the Boss? was at its core, a show about unconventional or blended families. Angela takes Sam in and becomes a surrogate mother figure for her and likewise, Tony becomes kind of a secondary dad to Jonathan. So I kind of get why they thought that it would make perfect or logical sense to bring another non-blood relative of either Tony or Angela's in. But Billy just came across as another one of those sickeningly precocious sitcom kids (https://www.ign.com/articles/2008/12/10/tv-playbook-lets-add-a-kid) that you would likely see in the '80s and '90s (think for example (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CousinOliver), Michelle on Full House, Olivia on The Cosby Show, Andrew on Family Ties, Joey and later Matthew on Gimme a Break, Sam on Diff'rent Strokes, Chrissy on Growing Pains, Kennedy on Blossom, Seven on Married...with Children, Nicky on The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, you get my point). You know, kids who were written as being mini-adults, or always getting one up on the rest of the characters with their cute one-liners and shenanigans. TVSCREEN2015 06-21-2022, 11:06 PM Billy sucked! He wasn't cute and had the most annoying voice ever. A pathetic attempt to keep an aging show going. At this point, Samantha was all grown up and started college. Jonathan's screentime was reduced to walk in, say a line, then leave the room. Danny Pinturio grew up to be an awkward teenager and a terrible actor. Tony and Angela become bumbling idiots who act like they never raised a child before because a 5 year old can clearly out smart two adults. Ugh... TMC 08-02-2022, 06:09 AM Billy sucked! He wasn't cute and had the most annoying voice ever. A pathetic attempt to keep an aging show going. At this point, Samantha was all grown up and started college. Jonathan's screentime was reduced to walk in, say a line, then leave the room. Danny Pinturio grew up to be an awkward teenager and a terrible actor. Tony and Angela become bumbling idiots who act like they never raised a child before because a 5 year old can clearly out smart two adults. Ugh... I think that I said before that Billy was in no small part, a grating character, because it just felt like they were trying to make him out to be a little more than a mini version of Tony's character. He has the raspy sounding voice with the thick New York accent like Tony Danza as well as Tony's (as in Tony Micelli, the character) meathead/macho posturing tendencies. Samantha and Jonathan during the early years of the show, were more endearing because they felt like genuine, relatable, authentic, multi-dimensional kids instead of caricatures. They weren't precocious to the point that it was cloying. TMC 09-08-2022, 11:46 PM Billy sucked! He wasn't cute and had the most annoying voice ever. A pathetic attempt to keep an aging show going. At this point, Samantha was all grown up and started college. Jonathan's screentime was reduced to walk in, say a line, then leave the room. Danny Pinturio grew up to be an awkward teenager and a terrible actor. Tony and Angela become bumbling idiots who act like they never raised a child before because a 5 year old can clearly out smart two adults. Ugh... I was today on GAC Family, watching the episode "Party Politics" (http://reviewingeverytvshowiown.blogspot.com/2017/05/whos-boss-party-politics.html) about all of the trouble that Tony and Angela go through with putting together Billy's birthday party. And at the end of the episode, Billy says that for his next birthday party, maybe they could get Bert and Ernie. I bring this up because I could've sworn that there was this really awkward dub over Billy's (Jonathan Halyalkar) voice. I thought that it was just my imagination talking but then I went back and looked at the Nick at Nite version from the 2000s. There, Billy tells Tony that maybe for his next birthday party, they could get Pee-Wee Herman. That's when it all made sense to me. "Party Politics" was first broadcast on ABC on February 26, 1991. In July 1991, came the infamous incident in which Paul Reubens, Pee-Wee Herman's portrayer, was arrested while watching a film in an adult movie theater. TMC 06-30-2023, 03:51 AM Billy sucked! He wasn't cute and had the most annoying voice ever. A pathetic attempt to keep an aging show going. At this point, Samantha was all grown up and started college. Jonathan's screentime was reduced to walk in, say a line, then leave the room. Danny Pinturio grew up to be an awkward teenager and a terrible actor. Tony and Angela become bumbling idiots who act like they never raised a child before because a 5 year old can clearly out smart two adults. Ugh... I don't enjoy being too harsh on child actors because they're naturally, not as "experienced" or seasoned as adults. But I agree that Billy had a odd speaking voice. I guess that I'm super particular about people who have dodgy elocution or enunciation skills. It wasn't just his accent because if that was the case, then we might as well jump on Tony Danza's case for always speaking in a really thick Brooklyn accent. It's just that Jonathan Halyalkar (https://www.google.com/search?q=Jonathan+Halyalker&sxsrf=APwXEdeXgISm_6zqCM6g-Ge7O7q9d_V9tw%3A1688111062552&ei=1oeeZM6wIaSPwbkP1b2_2A8&ved=0ahUKEwjO8-Xhv-r_AhWkRzABHdXeD_sQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=Jonathan+Halyalker&gs_lcp=Cgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAQAzINCC4QgwEQsQMQgAQQCjIHCAAQgAQQCjIHCAAQgAQQCjIHCAAQgAQQCjIHCAAQgAQQCjIHCAAQgAQQCjIHCAAQgAQQCjIbCC4QgwEQsQMQgAQQChCXBRDcBBDeBBDgBBgCOgcIIxDqAhAnOhUIABADEI8BEOoCELQCEIwDEOUCGAE6FQguEAMQjwEQ6gIQtAIQjAMQ5QIYAUoECEEYAFAAWLUDYLoNaAFwAXgAgAHgAYgB4AGSAQMyLTGYAQCgAQGgAQKwARTAAQHaAQYIARABGAvaAQYIAhABGBQ&sclient=gws-wiz-serp#ip=1), the little boy who played Billy, had this voice that was both gravelly and squeaky if that makes sense. And like I said, it was sometimes difficult to make out what he was saying. Billy seemed to talk like he had marbles or cotton balls in his mouth to put it in another way. Also, even though I just said that I normally try my best to not be too hard on child actors right away, Jonathan Halyalkar just seemed like one of those kid actors who needed to be heavily coached. You know the type of actor who would need somebody to kneel under the camera, recite the kid’s line and perform a gesture. And then the kid would then ape the way the line was spoken as closely as they could. Think of the Olsen Twins on Full House (https://www.datalounge.com/thread/30055300-john-stamos-had-top-billing-on-full-house) as a tell-tale example (https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/d657gs/hey_reddit_im_jay_abramowitz_in_the_1980s_and_90s/) of what I'm referring to. TMC 10-20-2023, 11:27 PM I read somewhere that he was written out of the show because they wanted to concentrate more on the romance between Tony and Angela, since it was going to be the last season. If I remember correctly, Katherine Helmond said (https://abc.fandom.com/wiki/Who%27s_The_Boss%3F) on the episode of E! True Hollywood Story (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0769574/) on Who's the Boss? (https://alyssa-j-milano.com/cpg/thumbnails.php?album=1768), that Jonathan Halyalkar (https://www.instagram.com/p/CBY4k4lj9uL/), the little boy who played Billy, had a really hard time keeping up (https://www.watchmojo.com/articles/who-s-the-boss-cast-where-are-they-now) with the timing and pacing of the more experienced actors on the show. Bare in mind that he was only five years old (https://jukebugs.com/who-is-jonathan-halyalkar-and-where-is-he-now/) at the time and this was really his first acting gig (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0357185/) period. TMC 10-26-2023, 11:20 PM Billy sucked! He wasn't cute and had the most annoying voice ever. A pathetic attempt to keep an aging show going. At this point, Samantha was all grown up and started college. Jonathan's screentime was reduced to walk in, say a line, then leave the room. Danny Pinturio grew up to be an awkward teenager and a terrible actor. Tony and Angela become bumbling idiots who act like they never raised a child before because a 5 year old can clearly out smart two adults. Ugh... IFC was playing the Billy episodes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAbXoI4AZHw) from Season 7 today, and you can really sense or tell that the writers had to dumb things down to make room and accommodate the Billy character and his presence (https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/496585466/). TMC 11-05-2023, 09:41 PM Billy sucked! He wasn't cute and had the most annoying voice ever. A pathetic attempt to keep an aging show going. At this point, Samantha was all grown up and started college. Jonathan's screentime was reduced to walk in, say a line, then leave the room. Danny Pinturio grew up to be an awkward teenager and a terrible actor. Tony and Angela become bumbling idiots who act like they never raised a child before because a 5 year old can clearly out smart two adults. Ugh... Like I said previously, with Billy, you can also tell that they really had to dumb the writing down. Who's the Boss? was always an adult-show. That isn't to say that it wasn't something that couldn't appeal to children or the entire family, but it still wasn't exactly a show that was written from a little kid's perspective first and foremost. But it was almost like the "Full House-fication" of Who's the Boss? got into full effect (with Billy essentially, the Michelle) as the the writing had to get broader and like I said, dumber. TMC 11-22-2023, 05:20 AM Oh that's actually a great point, they were fumbling their words and acting like first time parents with him! Its like the writers got all excited about this new writing opportunity, forgetting this isn't a NEW show about a new couple who just had their first baby. Come to think of it, there was an episode (https://reviewingeverytvshowiown.blogspot.com/2017/02/whos-boss-another-single-parent.html) from Season 4 called "Another Single Parent" (https://podtail.com/en/podcast/ay-oh-oh-ay-the-who-s-the-boss-podcast/another-single-parent/), where Angela suspects that an apparent widow named Kelly is actually keeping their daughter, Melissa away from her husband, who is actually alive and well. That episode seemed to do a more realistic job at suddenly putting a cute little kid in Tony and Angela's world than they did later on with Billy. Like I said before, the writing by Season 7 seemed to become really dumbed down and cartoonish or farcical instead of taking things more seriously. TMC 08-22-2024, 11:43 PM He was definitely one of those "hey the show is dying, we need to shoe horn in a new cute kid for laughs" character who was added to the show. They probably thought it would be good to have a new kid since Jonathan and Samantha were already much older by then. He probably didn't test well with audiences (although I thought he had some really funny moments) and they decided to remove him from the show (to also save $). I think the reason on the show was that Ms. Rosini was able to take care of him now. You can tell it was a quick/sudden decision because they didn't really give it much air time, it was something like "hey where's billy?" "Oh Ms. Rosini has him" and then on with the show with no mention of him again. A similar sort of thing you could say, happened with The Partridge Family almost 20 years prior. In its fourth and final season, show brought in four year old Ricky Segall to play the Partridges' cute new neighbor. Many fans of the show believe that Ricky's arrival was the exact moment that the show jumped the shark. |