View Full Version : Would Ward and June protest?


Tankeryanker
01-09-2021, 08:50 PM
Would they hold signs and walk in a circle chanting slogans?

Thoughts?

GentlemanJim
01-09-2021, 11:20 PM
Could you be a tad more specific?

Are you talking about good old-fashioned 1960s style protest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRV5LoOMyBk

Or the more contemporary "ZOMG,... the communists have stolen the White House!" style of protest?

Tankeryanker
01-10-2021, 12:12 AM
I did not have anything in mind. Could it be between the two you describe?

GentlemanJim
01-10-2021, 12:30 PM
I did not have anything in mind. Could it be between the two you describe?

Of course it could. It can be about anything you like, it's your thread.

I just think that Ward would expect a worthy cause, otherwise lacking that...then no...I don't think they would protest unless a well defined set of parameters were established, satisfying the "worthy" requirement.

Afterall, I'm sure Ward is sophisticated sufficient to be wary of "fake" news. :)

MichaelMartinD
01-11-2021, 05:25 PM
No, I don't think they would. Not their style at all.

GentlemanJim
01-14-2021, 07:28 PM
I believe that Ward would emphasize how crucial it is that you fully understand the cause of any group you might choose to demonstrate "for".

In illustration, only one 'protester' among the following was branded a "domestic terrorist", and vilified in the media. (which just from my perspective he appears to be the least threatening of the entire bunch) So, I guess that means if you don't understand the peculiarities of popular opinion, you are on your own.

https://i.imgur.com/XEQyuGB.gif

Tankeryanker
01-14-2021, 09:27 PM
What were the protests like in the 50s and 60s?

I assume they ranged from the boring walking in a circle carrying a sign to setting things on fire.

Any one of them in particular that stood out among the others?

GentlemanJim
01-14-2021, 11:10 PM
What were the protests like in the 50s and 60s?

I assume they ranged from the boring walking in a circle carrying a sign to setting things on fire.

Any one of them in particular that stood out among the others?

This is mostly my personal opinion, but collective demonstration really didn't start to be seen with contempt until it became radicalized, in the mid-late 1960s.

Prior to that, you had protests such as the "Bonus Army" demonstration back in the 1930s that ...while disdained by authorities, managed to find a place in the hearts of the everyday american .....seen as "the little guy standing up for what he deserves"....there were similar instances where the cause managed to catch the imagination of your "everyday joe".

But, in the 60s, with the flag burning, name-calling, and destruction, many Americans were offended over what they perceived to be attacks on their loyalty.

So, there was a shift in perception, for the worse, that has never gone away.

Again, that's my opinion, obviously I was not alive to witness the Bonus Army protests, but accounts that I have read describe it as having popular support, lead by a national war hero general (Smedley Butler) who had won the congressional medal of honor, twice.

And, I kind of think Ward Cleaver would support ol' Smedley, if the opportunity arose.