There are two cases that hit too close to home and really tugged at my heart strings. The cases of Rogest Cain and George Owens the two elderly black men who both went missing under suspicious circumstances. It also should be said that these cases are extremely similar and easy to mix up. Both were elderly and their cars were found but they both vanished without a trace.

When I was a kid a classmate of mine was crying his eyes out in 6th period one day. The teacher tried to console him but she had no luck. She knew we were friends so she cleared the classroom and had the aide take everyone to the gym and we stayed behind and talked to him. His grandfather came up missing and they were very close. He too was an elderly black man and him and his car were missing after he ran an errand for his wife. This was in 1984.

Now mind you this was about 30 some odd years ago. Would you believe that divers actually found this man and his car submerged in a pond less than 2 miles from his home in 2017. They were diving to remove some drums that people were complaining about. They pulled the car out and his dead body was in the car and had been submerged in that water since the mid 1980's.

Poor man probably had a heart attack or stroke while driving and ran off the road right into the bond. I have crossed that bridge probably 200 times in my lifetime. I wonder how he was able to drive in and no one saw him. I doubt this was criminal but there is a chance. Saginaw, MI had tons of gangs back in the 80s and they were not above messing with elderly people and children--pure evil.

In case you would like to look to read more on the case I am referring to:
Here (https://www.abc12.com/content/news/Body-found-in-car-submerged-in-pond-near-I-75-440581633.html)

So glad his wife lived to know what happened to him. It was almost like she held on for him she died not long after he was found. Anyhow these two cases always made em think of my classmate. We lost touch in the 90s when my family moved to a new town and oddly I don't even remember his name.

1) The Nicholas Markowitz case. It took place in West Hills, not too far from Encino where my grandparents lived and like the Markowitz family, they were also proud Jewish. Furthermore, my grandparents are also interned at the exact same cemetery (Eden Memorial Park, off Sepulveda).

2) Mark Dennis. As a Navy member, that explains it all.

Would you believe that divers actually found this man and his car submerged in a pond less than 2 miles from his home in 2017.

Aren't there like 30 stories from UM alone that have this outcome?

Yes, I'm exaggerating, but there's a fair number. This is a massively common outcome to missing persons cases.

Seemingly happens more in the midwest, but.. There's tons of stories out there about someone turning down the wrong road and rolling into a pond. The astounding thing.. In alot of them, there's multiple people in the vehicle. It's not a hard crash into water.. Just.. Roll into a body of water.. And they just sit in the car and drown.

I presume that many people don't realize that it's nearly impossible to open car doors when you're submerged until the pressure inside and outside equalizes.. and I'm certain that panic plays a part as well.. But.. I'm just shocked by how common this is.

I really don't understand it back in the 70's.. Back when most vehicles had manual windows. I mean, at least the modern vehicles, they hit the water, can't open the doors.. Electronic windows you can't get down.. You freak, try to kick the windows out, can't.. Get out of breath, panic, don't think to try to open the door again.

Wasn't a UM case, but i'm just a county over from Union, SC.. John D Long lake and all where Susan Smith drove her car (and kids) into the lake. And that whore will be up for parole in 3 years or so.

Aren't there like 30 stories from UM alone that have this outcome?

Yes, I'm exaggerating, but there's a fair number. This is a massively common outcome to missing persons cases.

Seemingly happens more in the midwest, but.. There's tons of stories out there about someone turning down the wrong road and rolling into a pond. The astounding thing.. In alot of them, there's multiple people in the vehicle. It's not a hard crash into water.. Just.. Roll into a body of water.. And they just sit in the car and drown.

I presume that many people don't realize that it's nearly impossible to open car doors when you're submerged until the pressure inside and outside equalizes.. and I'm certain that panic plays a part as well.. But.. I'm just shocked by how common this is.

I really don't understand it back in the 70's.. Back when most vehicles had manual windows. I mean, at least the modern vehicles, they hit the water, can't open the doors.. Electronic windows you can't get down.. You freak, try to kick the windows out, can't.. Get out of breath, panic, don't think to try to open the door again.

Wasn't a UM case, but i'm just a county over from Union, SC.. John D Long lake and all where Susan Smith drove her car (and kids) into the lake. And that whore will be up for parole in 3 years or so.

I beg to differ there are not very many cases that fit this scenario. I can remember about maybe 5 off the top of my head.

The one where the couple drove down the wrong way and were found may years later in pond. UM had concocted a theory about foul play for this entire segment and it just ended up being bad luck.

Also the schizophrenic young woman who got caught in the mud. Her car was found but she vanished without a trace.

It does happen but is not as common as one would thing to vanish with an entire car or just vanish period.

I beg to differ there are not very many cases that fit this scenario. I can remember about maybe 5 off the top of my head.

The one where the couple drove down the wrong way and were found may years later in pond. UM had concocted a theory about foul play for this entire segment and it just ended up being bad luck.

Also the schizophrenic young woman who got caught in the mud. Her car was found but she vanished without a trace.

It does happen but is not as common as one would thing to vanish with an entire car or just vanish period.

Just from the first two pages of Google.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9vHyERWNMg

https://www.wkyt.com/2020/06/22/woman-missing-since-2009-found-in-retention-pond-in-ind/

https://www.wishtv.com/news/local-news/man-found-dead-in-car-submerged-in-pond-on-northeast-side/

https://mashable.com/article/missing-person-car-pond-google-maps/

https://jalopnik.com/man-and-car-missing-since-2006-found-in-lake-submerged-1742646530

And I left alot of the stories out because I didn't want to duplicate.

like I said, I may be exaggerating about the number of cases on UM.. But this is still a quite common outcome. Far more common than one might expect.

And this only counts the ones where they have found the car. If you drained every lake and pond in America you probably solve 30% of all missing persons cases.