Did you know that Molly R. went to school with Shavar Ross (Dudley of Diff'rent Strokes)??

Source: Imdb (Without the source, Mr. Parker could suspend me :lol::lol::lol::lol:)

They were in "The Slumber Party" together, so I wonder if this was the studio school, or somewhere else.

They were in "The Slumber Party" together, so I wonder if this was the studio school, or somewhere else.

But Shavar doesn't appear in TSP.

Didn't say what school he went to. Molly never went to the studio school, she went to her own boarding schools.

He was also 3 years younger than Molly, so I doubt they were in many, if any classes together.

Didn't say what school he went to. Molly never went to the studio school, she went to her own boarding schools.

Do we really know that Molly never attended studio schools? We know Molly attended Lycee Francais for high school, but presumably that was only grades 9-12. Molly stated in the Susan Sarandon video that they filmed The Tempest in New York and Greece. The Tempest was filmed from July to November 1981 (https://catalog.afi.com/Catalog/MovieDetails/56888), according to the American Film Institute. It wouldn't have been possible for Molly to have attended Le Lycee Francais in Los Angeles while shooting The Tempest in New York and Greece.

But Shavar doesn't appear in TSP.

I'm sure you're right, but some sources put him in the episode (https://www.allmovie.com/movie/diffrent-strokes--the-slumber-party-v502490/cast-crew). This is likely a mistake.

Do we really know that Molly never attended studio schools? We know Molly attended Lycee Francais for high school, but presumably that was only grades 9-12. Molly stated in the Susan Sarandon video that they filmed The Tempest in New York and Greece. The Tempest was filmed from July to November 1981 (https://catalog.afi.com/Catalog/MovieDetails/56888), according to the American Film Institute. It wouldn't have been possible for Molly to have attended Le Lycee Francais in Los Angeles while shooting The Tempest in New York and Greece.

Molly was in studio schools during her John Hughes films (there are photos of her with her co-stars) as probably during the filming of the Tempest. There was an earlier posts about some of Molly's classmates opinion of her at the school she attended around the times that Facts of Life first season was filmed.

Kim talked about after the first season ended that only she and Nancy McKeon were in the studio school. Mindy probably was going to Westlake. Lisa either was home schooled or graduated already.

Some other trivia:

Her first acting break was as Kate in the West Coast production of "Annie".

Turned down the Julia Roberts role in Pretty Woman (1990) and the Demi Moore role in Ghost (1990)

Refused the Lea Thompson role in Some Kind of Wonderful (1987), ending her successful business relationship with John Hughes, who was furious.

Didn't say what school he went to. Molly never went to the studio school, she went to her own boarding schools.

He was also 3 years younger than Molly, so I doubt they were in many, if any classes together.

Unfortunately Imdb doesn't mention the name of the school.
The trivia is:
(Shavar) "Went to school with Molly Ringwald, Milla Jovovich, Stephen Dorff, Nicole Eggert, Scott Grimes and Moon and Dweezil Zappa".

I'm sure you're right, but some sources put him in the episode (https://www.allmovie.com/movie/diffrent-strokes--the-slumber-party-v502490/cast-crew). This is likely a mistake.

Yeah, this is a mistake. The site you linked me put Mary Jo Catlett, Dody Goodman and Janet Jackson in that episode but their characters debuted one season later (Janet and Mrs. Goodman) and two years later for Pearl.

Molly was in studio schools during her John Hughes films (there are photos of her with her co-stars) as probably during the filming of the Tempest. There was an earlier posts about some of Molly's classmates opinion of her at the school she attended around the times that Facts of Life first season was filmed.

Kim talked about after the first season ended that only she and Nancy McKeon were in the studio school. Mindy probably was going to Westlake. Lisa either was home schooled or graduated already.

I'm pretty sure Kim mentions in her book the fact that Lisa had already graduated by the beginning of season 2 and that Mindy was still going to Westlake

Molly was in studio schools during her John Hughes films (there are photos of her with her co-stars) as probably during the filming of the Tempest. There was an earlier posts about some of Molly's classmates opinion of her at the school she attended around the times that Facts of Life first season was filmed.

Yeah, I remember you digging up that page, which I thought was a cool find... I can't imagine people still being mad about Molly being a bit snooty back then. She was a kid, and everyone involved are now adults.


Kim talked about after the first season ended that only she and Nancy McKeon were in the studio school. Mindy probably was going to Westlake. Lisa either was home schooled or graduated already.

Yes, I remember that passage from Kim's book. In the part Kim is talking about, the Lost Girls had already been shown the door. Kim does say that Lisa had already graduated early. So by S2, the only FOL girl with Kim at the studio school was Nancy McKeon.

Yeah, this is a mistake. The site you linked me put Mary Jo Catlett, Dody Goodman and Janet Jackson in that episode but their characters debuted one season later (Janet and Mrs. Goodman) and two years later for Pearl.

Good points!

Some other trivia:

Her first acting break was as Kate in the West Coast production of "Annie".

Turned down the Julia Roberts role in Pretty Woman (1990) and the Demi Moore role in Ghost (1990)

Refused the Lea Thompson role in Some Kind of Wonderful (1987), ending her successful business relationship with John Hughes, who was furious.

Kate must have been "Orphan #5"!

Molly seems to have missed the boat on some huge film roles. (Then again, is that all that surprising? This is an actress who turned down free school lunches at Eastland, calling them her "worst job ever" ;):lol: )

Kate must have been "Orphan #5"!

Molly seems to have missed the boat on some huge film roles. (Then again, is that all that surprising? This is an actress who turned down free school lunches at Eastland, calling them her "worst job ever" ;):lol: )

Though Molly has had a comeback in 2008. She still currently has had the most success of all the Eastland girls. She was first in "The Secret Life of an American Ager" and then "Riverdale", playing the mother of lead characters in both. Plus she has a role in as the mother of the lead character of the "Kissing Booth" movie series. While she is now a supporting cast member, she still keeps busy. Plus she is busy with her kids modeling careers.

Kate must have been "Orphan #5"!

Molly seems to have missed the boat on some huge film roles. (Then again, is that all that surprising? This is an actress who turned down free school lunches at Eastland, calling them her "worst job ever" ;):lol: )

Though Molly has had a comeback in 2008. She still currently has had the most success of all the Eastland girls. She was first in "The Secret Life of an American Ager" and then "Riverdale", playing the mother of lead characters in both. Plus she has a role in as the mother of the lead character of the "Kissing Booth" movie series. While she is now a supporting cast member, she still keeps busy. Plus she is busy with her kids modeling careers.

I can post some more trivia if you want.

I can post some more trivia if you want.

Here’s all the Ringwald trivia from IMDb.

And I certainly hand typed all this and most definitely did not cut and paste



Judged the Tropfest film festival 2000 in Australia.

Family: dad, Robert Ringwald; mom, Adele; older sister, Beth Ringwald; older brother, Kelly.

Her first acting break was as Kate in the West Coast production of "Annie".

Listed as one of twelve "Promising New Actors of 1984" in John Willis' Screen World, Vol. 36.

Is fluent in French, having been educated at the Lycee Francaise School in Los Angeles; having lived and worked in France for a few years; and was married to a Frenchman.

Turned down the Julia Roberts role in Pretty Woman (1990) and the Demi Moore role in Ghost (1990)

Refused the Lea Thompson role in Some Kind of Wonderful (1987), ending her successful business relationship with John Hughes, who was furious.

Her parents owned a cafeteria in Downtown Los Angeles

David Lynch sent her the screenplay of Blue Velvet (1986), in the hope that she would be interested in playing the role of Sandy, which was eventually played by Laura Dern. However, Molly's mother read it first, and because it disturbed her, she never showed it to Molly for consideration.

Made the cover of Time magazine in 1986.

Auditioned for one of the lead roles in Ghost (1990). The character she was tested for was ironically named Molly. (That part ultimately went to Demi Moore, a fellow member of the so-called Brat Pack.)

Book reviewer for the Hartford Courant newspaper in Connecticut, and writes entertainment profiles for the Westchester Journal News (NY). [2004]

"Ereni" (eeh-ree-nee) her daughter's middle name means "Peace" in Greek

Married to Panio Gianopoulos, a book editor and a writer. Younger than Ringwald, he published an elegiac essay about romancing older women called "Confessions of a Boy Toy" in a recent anthology.

At the beginning of her film collaboration with John Hughes, she was driving a silver VW Rabbit convertible. By the time it ended with Pretty in Pink (1986), she was driving a white BMW.

Was one of the eight original core members of the 1980s 'Brat Pack' along with Judd Nelson, Anthony Michael Hall, Demi Moore, Rob Lowe, Ally Sheedy, Emilio Estevez and Andrew McCarthy.

She revealed at the 2005 MTV Movie Awards (2005) that she's having negotiations about a sequel to Sixteen Candles (1984).

Ranked #17 in VH1's list of the "100 Greatest Kid Stars."

Ranked #1 in VH1's list of the "100 Greatest Teen Stars."

Because her name is so associated with the "brat pack" movies of the 1980s, there is a band that plays covers of '80s hits called "The Molly Ringwalds."

Has very fond memories of Pretty in Pink (1986). She lists it as her favorite film, and says her kiss with Andrew McCarthy at the very end is her favorite on screen kiss.

Grew up singing for her father's (Robert Ringwald) traditional and swing bands in Sacramento. Conrad Janis [Mork & Mindy (1978)] also played part time in the band.

Daughter of Robert Ringwald and wife Adele Edith Frembd. She has German, English, Dutch, and Swedish ancestry. One of her paternal great-grandfathers was a Swedish immigrant.

Learning to play the ukulele.

Was considered for the role of Vicki Vale in Batman (1989).

Born at 2:07 PM (PST).

In 2006, young Catalan Director Sergi Rubió, influenced by John Hughes's Teen movies and Molly Ringwald's, for his film Madison Class of '64 (2006) created the name Molly for the character played by young Actress Alba Madriles thinking of her as the next Molly Ringwald.

Childhood friend of Adam Carolla.

Gave birth to her first child at age 35, a daughter Mathilda Ereni Gianopoulous on October 22, 2003. Child's father is her boyfriend [now second husband], Panio Gianopoulos.

Gave birth to twins (her second and third child) at age 41, a son Roman Stylianos Gianopoulos and a daughter Adele Georgiana Gianopoulos on July 10, 2009. Children's father is her second husband, Panio Gianopoulos.

Starring in Broadway production of "Enchanted April" as Rose. [April 2003]

Touring in a musical stage production of "Sweet Charity" in the title role. [October 2006]

Currently appearing as Sally in "When Harry Met Sally" at the Haymarket Theatre, London until September 2004 [August 2004]

Starring in Modern Orthodox at the Dodger Theatres in New York City (Also starring is Jason Biggs from "American Pie" fame). [December 2004]

She acted with Mindy Cohn on The Facts of Life (1979) and then, 30 years later, on The Secret Life of the American Teenager (2008).

She shared a birthday (February 18) with John Hughes, who directed her most well known features Sixteen Candles, Breakfast Club and Pretty In Pink.

She was born on the day before Mister Rogers Neighborhood (1968) debuted.

As a child, sang "God Bless America" and "The Star-Spangled Banner" on the Disney album "Yankee Doodle Mickey", which is still available on iTunes; also sang "The First Noel" on Disney's "Merry Christmas Songs" LP.

She has appeared in one film that has been selected for the National Film Registry by the Library of Congress as being "culturally, historically or aesthetically" significant: The Breakfast Club (1985).

Though Molly has had a comeback in 2008. She still currently has had the most success of all the Eastland girls. She was first in "The Secret Life of an American Ager" and then "Riverdale", playing the mother of lead characters in both. Plus she has a role in as the mother of the lead character of the "Kissing Booth" movie series. While she is now a supporting cast member, she still keeps busy. Plus she is busy with her kids modeling careers.

Certainly Molly has had an amazing career, and one any Hollywood actor could be proud of, and should be proud of. Still, she had a series of missteps and missed opportunities; think of it: she could have been the Pretty Woman. That could have been her Golden Globe.

Here’s all the Ringwald trivia from IMDb.

And I certainly hand typed all this and most definitely did not cut and paste


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As a child, sang "God Bless America" and "The Star-Spangled Banner" on the Disney album "Yankee Doodle Mickey", which is still available on iTunes; also sang "The First Noel" on Disney's "Merry Christmas Songs" LP.

Good trivia item.

Molly's rendition of "The First Noel" is incredible, even powerful. I'm not a fan of Molly's singing on FOL, but damn, they should have gotten her to sing that song on a Christmas-themed episode of the show during her time on the series. Sadly, we wouldn't get a Christmas FOL episode until after the both the golden and silver Eastland years had already come to an end. What a missed opportunity!

Imagine it: Tootie, Natalie, Jo, Blair, and Mrs. Garrett are all gathered around the warm Eastland fireplace, sipping their Ovaltine. When suddenly, Molly, Sue Ann, Cindy, and Nancy arrive, from Dorm B. They explain the furnace is on the fritz in their dorm, so they decided to get warm by coming over to the warm, cozy, Christmas-decorated cafeteria. Mrs. Garrett provides the Lost Girls some warm cocoa, as they all begin reminiscing over the last few years at Eastland. At the end, Molly sings "The First Noel", as the camera pans across the fire, over the tree, and across each of Mrs. Garrett's girls' faces.

Then there's a knock at the door. It's Mr. Parker... and he's brought an old friend: it's Mr. Bradley, visiting from Stone Military Academy! As we get flashbacks to Mr. Bradley's scenes, everyone decides it truly is a Christmas they never forgot.

Here’s all the Ringwald trivia from IMDb.

And I certainly hand typed all this and most definitely did not cut and paste



Judged the Tropfest film festival 2000 in Australia.

Family: dad, Robert Ringwald; mom, Adele; older sister, Beth Ringwald; older brother, Kelly.

Her first acting break was as Kate in the West Coast production of "Annie".

Listed as one of twelve "Promising New Actors of 1984" in John Willis' Screen World, Vol. 36.

Is fluent in French, having been educated at the Lycee Francaise School in Los Angeles; having lived and worked in France for a few years; and was married to a Frenchman.

Turned down the Julia Roberts role in Pretty Woman (1990) and the Demi Moore role in Ghost (1990)

Refused the Lea Thompson role in Some Kind of Wonderful (1987), ending her successful business relationship with John Hughes, who was furious.

Her parents owned a cafeteria in Downtown Los Angeles

David Lynch sent her the screenplay of Blue Velvet (1986), in the hope that she would be interested in playing the role of Sandy, which was eventually played by Laura Dern. However, Molly's mother read it first, and because it disturbed her, she never showed it to Molly for consideration.

Made the cover of Time magazine in 1986.

Auditioned for one of the lead roles in Ghost (1990). The character she was tested for was ironically named Molly. (That part ultimately went to Demi Moore, a fellow member of the so-called Brat Pack.)

Book reviewer for the Hartford Courant newspaper in Connecticut, and writes entertainment profiles for the Westchester Journal News (NY). [2004]

"Ereni" (eeh-ree-nee) her daughter's middle name means "Peace" in Greek

Married to Panio Gianopoulos, a book editor and a writer. Younger than Ringwald, he published an elegiac essay about romancing older women called "Confessions of a Boy Toy" in a recent anthology.

At the beginning of her film collaboration with John Hughes, she was driving a silver VW Rabbit convertible. By the time it ended with Pretty in Pink (1986), she was driving a white BMW.

Was one of the eight original core members of the 1980s 'Brat Pack' along with Judd Nelson, Anthony Michael Hall, Demi Moore, Rob Lowe, Ally Sheedy, Emilio Estevez and Andrew McCarthy.

She revealed at the 2005 MTV Movie Awards (2005) that she's having negotiations about a sequel to Sixteen Candles (1984).

Ranked #17 in VH1's list of the "100 Greatest Kid Stars."

Ranked #1 in VH1's list of the "100 Greatest Teen Stars."

Because her name is so associated with the "brat pack" movies of the 1980s, there is a band that plays covers of '80s hits called "The Molly Ringwalds."

Has very fond memories of Pretty in Pink (1986). She lists it as her favorite film, and says her kiss with Andrew McCarthy at the very end is her favorite on screen kiss.

Grew up singing for her father's (Robert Ringwald) traditional and swing bands in Sacramento. Conrad Janis [Mork & Mindy (1978)] also played part time in the band.

Daughter of Robert Ringwald and wife Adele Edith Frembd. She has German, English, Dutch, and Swedish ancestry. One of her paternal great-grandfathers was a Swedish immigrant.

Learning to play the ukulele.

Was considered for the role of Vicki Vale in Batman (1989).

Born at 2:07 PM (PST).

In 2006, young Catalan Director Sergi Rubió, influenced by John Hughes's Teen movies and Molly Ringwald's, for his film Madison Class of '64 (2006) created the name Molly for the character played by young Actress Alba Madriles thinking of her as the next Molly Ringwald.

Childhood friend of Adam Carolla.

Gave birth to her first child at age 35, a daughter Mathilda Ereni Gianopoulous on October 22, 2003. Child's father is her boyfriend [now second husband], Panio Gianopoulos.

Gave birth to twins (her second and third child) at age 41, a son Roman Stylianos Gianopoulos and a daughter Adele Georgiana Gianopoulos on July 10, 2009. Children's father is her second husband, Panio Gianopoulos.

Starring in Broadway production of "Enchanted April" as Rose. [April 2003]

Touring in a musical stage production of "Sweet Charity" in the title role. [October 2006]

Currently appearing as Sally in "When Harry Met Sally" at the Haymarket Theatre, London until September 2004 [August 2004]

Starring in Modern Orthodox at the Dodger Theatres in New York City (Also starring is Jason Biggs from "American Pie" fame). [December 2004]

She acted with Mindy Cohn on The Facts of Life (1979) and then, 30 years later, on The Secret Life of the American Teenager (2008).

She shared a birthday (February 18) with John Hughes, who directed her most well known features Sixteen Candles, Breakfast Club and Pretty In Pink.

She was born on the day before Mister Rogers Neighborhood (1968) debuted.

As a child, sang "God Bless America" and "The Star-Spangled Banner" on the Disney album "Yankee Doodle Mickey", which is still available on iTunes; also sang "The First Noel" on Disney's "Merry Christmas Songs" LP.

She has appeared in one film that has been selected for the National Film Registry by the Library of Congress as being "culturally, historically or aesthetically" significant: The Breakfast Club (1985).

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Good trivia item.

Molly's rendition of "The First Noel" is incredible, even powerful. I'm not a fan of Molly's singing on FOL, but damn, they should have gotten her to sing that song on a Christmas-themed episode of the show during her time on the series. Sadly, we wouldn't get a Christmas FOL episode until after the both the golden and silver Eastland years had already come to an end. What a missed opportunity!

Imagine it: Tootie, Natalie, Jo, Blair, and Mrs. Garrett are all gathered around the warm Eastland fireplace, sipping their Ovaltine. When suddenly, Molly, Sue Ann, Cindy, and Nancy arrive, from Dorm B. They explain the furnace is on the fritz in their dorm, so they decided to get warm by coming over to the warm, cozy, Christmas-decorated cafeteria. Mrs. Garrett provides the Lost Girls some warm cocoa, as they all begin reminiscing over the last few years at Eastland. At the end, Molly sings "The First Noel", as the camera pans across the fire, over the tree, and across each of Mrs. Garrett's girls' faces.

Then there's a knock at the door. It's Mr. Parker... and he's brought an old friend: it's Mr. Bradley, visiting from Stone Military Academy! As we get flashbacks to Mr. Bradley's scenes, everyone decides it truly is a Christmas they never forgot.

Thank you for doing that opus.

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Good trivia item.

Molly's rendition of "The First Noel" is incredible, even powerful. I'm not a fan of Molly's singing on FOL, but damn, they should have gotten her to sing that song on a Christmas-themed episode of the show during her time on the series. Sadly, we wouldn't get a Christmas FOL episode until after the both the golden and silver Eastland years had already come to an end. What a missed opportunity!

Imagine it: Tootie, Natalie, Jo, Blair, and Mrs. Garrett are all gathered around the warm Eastland fireplace, sipping their Ovaltine. When suddenly, Molly, Sue Ann, Cindy, and Nancy arrive, from Dorm B. They explain the furnace is on the fritz in their dorm, so they decided to get warm by coming over to the warm, cozy, Christmas-decorated cafeteria. Mrs. Garrett provides the Lost Girls some warm cocoa, as they all begin reminiscing over the last few years at Eastland. At the end, Molly sings "The First Noel", as the camera pans across the fire, over the tree, and across each of Mrs. Garrett's girls' faces.

Then there's a knock at the door. It's Mr. Parker... and he's brought an old friend: it's Mr. Bradley, visiting from Stone Military Academy! As we get flashbacks to Mr. Bradley's scenes, everyone decides it truly is a Christmas they never forgot.

Renee Estevez plays a character in Sleepaway Camp II: Unhappy Campers named Molly (named after Molly Ringwald), other characters in the film were also named after popular young actors from the 80s.

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Good trivia item.

Molly's rendition of "The First Noel" is incredible, even powerful. I'm not a fan of Molly's singing on FOL, but damn, they should have gotten her to sing that song on a Christmas-themed episode of the show during her time on the series. Sadly, we wouldn't get a Christmas FOL episode until after the both the golden and silver Eastland years had already come to an end. What a missed opportunity!

Imagine it: Tootie, Natalie, Jo, Blair, and Mrs. Garrett are all gathered around the warm Eastland fireplace, sipping their Ovaltine. When suddenly, Molly, Sue Ann, Cindy, and Nancy arrive, from Dorm B. They explain the furnace is on the fritz in their dorm, so they decided to get warm by coming over to the warm, cozy, Christmas-decorated cafeteria. Mrs. Garrett provides the Lost Girls some warm cocoa, as they all begin reminiscing over the last few years at Eastland. At the end, Molly sings "The First Noel", as the camera pans across the fire, over the tree, and across each of Mrs. Garrett's girls' faces.

Then there's a knock at the door. It's Mr. Parker... and he's brought an old friend: it's Mr. Bradley, visiting from Stone Military Academy! As we get flashbacks to Mr. Bradley's scenes, everyone decides it truly is a Christmas they never forgot.




I was going to post you my review last night, but then my laptop went crazy again!!!!

I absolutely love your Christmas story with the whole team: the 7 girls from season 1 gathered around the Christmas tree with their surrogate mother MRS G, JO and MR BRADLEY unexpected visit....

I would have included MISS MAHONEY too, surprising everyone by walking into the arms of MR BRADLEY, as his new bride!!!!

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I was going to post you my review last night, but then my laptop went crazy again!!!!

I absolutely love your Christmas story with the whole team: the 7 girls from season 1 gathered around the Christmas tree with their surrogate mother MRS G, JO and MR BRADLEY unexpected visit....

I would have included MISS MAHONEY too, surprising everyone by walking into the arms of MR BRADLEY, as his new bride!!!!

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That sounds GREAT, Valentina! I'd love to see Miss Mahoney... I mean Mrs. Bradley-Mahoney... once more!

I would watch that episode with Christmas popcorn! :tree:popcorn::cc:

That sounds GREAT, Valentina! I'd love to see Miss Mahoney... I mean Mrs. Bradley-Mahoney... once more!

I would watch that episode with Christmas popcorn! :tree:popcorn::cc:



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Instead of children, Mr and Mrs. Bradley decided to adopt rabbits.

Instead of children, Mr and Mrs. Bradley decided to adopt rabbits.

Sounds legit. I'd watch. :lol: