Watched it free on Tubi tonight. It's been years since i've seen it and I forgot a lot of it.

That opener is always loads of fun to watch and still plays well today with lots of suspense. The last 20 minutes are a lot of fun too.

As I was watching it I was slowly remembering who the killers were and I also remembered how much that smiling guy annoyed the hell out of me the first time I saw it. :lol:

I forgot his name but he was the one who wasn't Sidney's Johnny Depp looking boyfriend. I was glad when he finally died.

Some things don't hold up now though. What was innovative in 1996 is tired in 2020, like all the endless horror movie references. They just kept that going on and on but I get that it was a new angle at the time and the killers were twisted horror film fans I guess.

And I have this memory of Dewey being alive in the end and Gale being happy to see he wasn't dead. There's a quick shot of him being put into the ambulance (I think it was him)...but I remember a scene with him and Gale together when he was discovered to be alive....unless it was in part 2?!

I'm going to watch that one on Monday because it leaves Tubi at the end of next week. I think I know who the killer was in that because I have a vague recollection of the ending....I won't say who I think it is because maybe i'm wrong and I don't want to be spoiled.

I have no idea what part 3 is....I think that was the movie in a movie one?...I'll watch that one on Tuesday.

It was fun to revisit it again though and the last half hour things really got fun. Oh and what I found amusing watching this today is how everyone refers to cell phones back then as "cellulars". :lol:

I don't recall anyone referring to them in this way. My friend got her first phone in the mid 90's and I always called it her "cell phone" but never "cellular"....Actually I called it her "Parrot Phone" because there was this commercial that was always on TV at that time where a parrot kicks the phone off a perch lol. And she got the exact same one so I always annoyed her by calling it her "Parrot Phone". :lol:

Holy crap! Writing about that commercial just made me go see if it's on You Tube and it is!! LOL...here is it....the "Parrot Phone" :lol:

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I forgot his name but he was the one who wasn't Sidney's Johnny Depp looking boyfriend. I was glad when he finally died.

Some things don't hold up now though. What was innovative in 1996 is tired in 2020, like all the endless horror movie references.

That was Matthew Lillard (Stu). Yeah, I think the “best” dated thing is when Billy drops his cellphone in Sydney’s bedroom and she’s shocked that he has a mobile phone.

That was Matthew Lillard (Stu). Yeah, I think the “best” dated thing is when Billy drops his cellphone in Sydney’s bedroom and she’s shocked that he has a mobile phone.

I thought that was strange at first and then realized that back then everyone didn't have a cell phone so it was a pretty good clue for her that he could be the killer.

I didn't expect it to feel so dated in that respect because I always think of Scream as a modern horror but yikes it's almost 24 years now since it came out!! It really doesn't feel all that long ago. :eek:

Watched it free on Tubi tonight. It's been years since i've seen it and I forgot a lot of it.


This is one franchise I rewatch frequently. It never grows old or outdated for me. I really like that the characters aren't written as brainless zombies waiting to be killed off. They all fight against the killer to try to live. Sidney is the most intelligent heroine because she knows to shoot the killer in the head to keep them from coming back. We also see from her first chase scene she knows to call 911 when someone is after her. I like that they brought logic to the writing.


Some things don't hold up now though. What was innovative in 1996 is tired in 2020, like all the endless horror movie references. They just kept that going on and on but I get that it was a new angle at the time and the killers were twisted horror film fans I guess.


I don't think that would be tired in today's times. Killers get their ideas from real life events and movies. They need some guidance on how to kill people and get away with it. I think it was showing us a valid way that potential killers look to these ways of how to get started.


And I have this memory of Dewey being alive in the end and Gale being happy to see he wasn't dead. There's a quick shot of him being put into the ambulance (I think it was him)...but I remember a scene with him and Gale together when he was discovered to be alive....unless it was in part 2?!


Yes, that is from part 2.


I'm going to watch that one on Monday because it leaves Tubi at the end of next week. I think I know who the killer was in that because I have a vague recollection of the ending....I won't say who I think it is because maybe i'm wrong and I don't want to be spoiled.

Part 2 is my favorite Scream. I hope nothing is edited out of it like Better Watch Out was on Tubi.

I have no idea what part 3 is....I think that was the movie in a movie one?...I'll watch that one on Tuesday.

Part 3 isn't bad, but it's my least favorite. I don't think the story is as solid as 1, 2, and 4 are. Plus 3 tries rewriting the history of part 1 that you'll see when you watch it that I don't think pulled off very well.


It was fun to revisit it again though and the last half hour things really got fun. Oh and what I found amusing watching this today is how everyone refers to cell phones back then as "cellulars". :lol:

I don't recall anyone referring to them in this way.


The first time I can remember ever hearing this term was on the episode of The Facts of Life called Seven Little Indians. Blair said she could make a call on her "cellular phone" because the phone lines were down. I always remember cell phones being called as that in the 90's.

This is one franchise I rewatch frequently. It never grows old or outdated for me. I really like that the characters aren't written as brainless zombies waiting to be killed off. They all fight against the killer to try to live. Sidney is the most intelligent heroine because she knows to shoot the killer in the head to keep them from coming back. We also see from her first chase scene she knows to call 911 when someone is after her. I like that they brought logic to the writing.

Yeah like in the scene where Sidney's on the phone with the killer who says he's outside and she says to him "I call your bluff" and walks right out onto the porch. I liked that because it's real and what a normal person would do rather than instantly turn into a crying idiot like Drew Barrymore did.

When I watch these types of movies the first thing I think of is "Just run out of the freaking house!!" :lol:


I don't think that would be tired in today's times. Killers get their ideas from real life events and movies. They need some guidance on how to kill people and get away with it. I think it was showing us a valid way that potential killers look to these ways of how to get started.

I think the movie references went on too long. I get they were showing how horror films can influence already fragile and mentally ill minds to mimic what they see in them, but the references went on a bit too much for me.

I did like that the final chase scene from Halloween was playing in the background on the TV during Sidney's final chase scene. :lol:


Yes, that is from part 2.

Ok, you can spoil me just a little....so Scream 2 starts off the same night or the next day then right?


Part 2 is my favorite Scream. I hope nothing is edited out of it like Better Watch Out was on Tubi.

Just that final end scene was edited out of Better Watch Out, but it was important to the story. Hopefully i'll remember enough of part 2 to know if something was edited out.


Part 3 isn't bad, but it's my least favorite. I don't think the story is as solid as 1, 2, and 4 are. Plus 3 tries rewriting the history of part 1 that you'll see when you watch it that I don't think pulled off very well.

What I don't get (at least for now) is how they kept the sequels going if the people who killed Sidney's Mom were the ones killing everyone in part one and they're now dead.

Who the hell is continuing to stalk this poor girl then to make the story stretch so long? All this time I thought it was the same killer intent on getting her, but when I watched last night and saw everyone was killed in that original one...I began to wonder if it's different people always after Sidney in the following films?

Don't confirm yet, but I THINK the killer in part 2 was a parent of one of the killers in part 1. So there's the connection and motive to get Sidney. I may be wrong but this is what I remember from my foggy memory. And I think it was Jackie from Roseanne that wound up being the killer who played the mother of one of the part 1 killers. It's all foggy, but this is what I THINK happens in part 2. I can't wait to see it again to piece it all together.

Parts 3 and 4 I have absolutely no idea what happens except that one of them is a film within a film thing.


The first time I can remember ever hearing this term was on the episode of The Facts of Life called Seven Little Indians. Blair said she could make a call on her "cellular phone" because the phone lines were down. I always remember cell phones being called as that in the 90's.

I saw an early Frasier where it's called a "cellular phone" but I always personally called it a "cell phone" and heard it spoken that way by others even back then. Maybe it was only in movies and on TV it was referred as "cellular"?

Yeah like in the scene where Sidney's on the phone with the killer who says he's outside and she says to him "I call your bluff" and walks right out onto the porch. I liked that because it's real and what a normal person would do rather than instantly turn into a crying idiot like Drew Barrymore did.

When I watch these types of movies the first thing I think of is "Just run out of the freaking house!!" :lol:

Right. I Know What You Did Last Summer came out around the time of Scream. Their portrayal of a heroine is have her scream her lungs off and run around like an idiot. Scream had them grab objects and try to get one up on the killer. I think this is why Scream is such a success with fans is because they don't write the characters as dumb idiots waiting to die.



I think the movie references went on too long. I get they were showing how horror films can influence already fragile and mentally ill minds to mimic what they see in them, but the references went on a bit too much for me.

I did like that the final chase scene from Halloween was playing in the background on the TV during Sidney's final chase scene. :lol:

Well that was the point of Jamie Kennedy's character. He's the movie buff who is always comparing real life to the movies. I don't care for his character and am glad he's done with the movies.


Ok, you can spoil me just a little....so Scream 2 starts off the same night or the next day then right?

None of the sequels take place right after the event. They take time to allow the process of how each occurrence affected the characters. I think part 3 really brings a realistic view of how Sidney deals with trying to be killed twice. Scream is more intelligent and realistic than the Halloween series.


What I don't get (at least for now) is how they kept the sequels going if the people who killed Sidney's Mom were the ones killing everyone in part one and they're now dead.

Billy and Stu started a chain of events with Sidney's life. It's not just them who want Sidney to suffer and that's what we see in the sequels. Sidney is paying for the actions of her mom which is messed up. Scream 3 goes more into Sidney's mom's life that you will see.


Who the hell is continuing to stalk this poor girl then to make the story stretch so long? All this time I thought it was the same killer intent on getting her, but when I watched last night and saw everyone was killed in that original one...I began to wonder if it's different people always after Sidney in the following films?

Don't confirm yet, but I THINK the killer in part 2 was a parent of one of the killers in part 1. So there's the connection and motive to get Sidney. I may be wrong but this is what I remember from my foggy memory. And I think it was Jackie from Roseanne that wound up being the killer who played the mother of one of the part 1 killers. It's all foggy, but this is what I THINK happens in part 2. I can't wait to see it again to piece it all together.

Parts 3 and 4 I have absolutely no idea what happens except that one of them is a film within a film thing.

I think the Scream series does really well with bringing different people in trying to kill Sidney. Billy and Stu created the idea for everyone in Sidney's life to follow with how to make her suffer.

I'm curious to see how they do Scream 5. Scream 4's reveal made sense. I don't know who else they could logically write as a person wanting Sidney dead. They've tapped all the ideas with the first 4. I'm wondering if they'll use Sidney as a way to create the next heroine to restart the series. Even if they do, I think Sidney covered all the bases of why a person would be ghostface killing people and targeting a victim.

Right. I Know What You Did Last Summer came out around the time of Scream. Their portrayal of a heroine is have her scream her lungs off and run around like an idiot. Scream had them grab objects and try to get one up on the killer. I think this is why Scream is such a success with fans is because they don't write the characters as dumb idiots waiting to die.

That's one thing that annoys me about these slashers...the way the women scream like idiots when they're either running from the killer or finding a dead body. It's not a natural reaction and only makes them look silly.

If I came across a dead body, i'd maybe gasp but what the hell would I scream at the top of my lungs for?! The first thing i'd do is instinctively check if the person is dead or needs help. But in these movies, they just take one look at the body and stand there and scream like a moron rather than act like a real person. :lol:

I want to watch those "Summer" films but will do the "Wrong Turn" collection first since I already have the dvds of that.

Well that was the point of Jamie Kennedy's character. He's the movie buff who is always comparing real life to the movies. I don't care for his character and am glad he's done with the movies.

I didn't either and found him annoying when he went on to Ghost Whisperer. I read on Scream's Wikipedia page that Breckin Meyer was up for that role and I think he would've been better in it.


None of the sequels take place right after the event. They take time to allow the process of how each occurrence affected the characters. I think part 3 really brings a realistic view of how Sidney deals with trying to be killed twice. Scream is more intelligent and realistic than the Halloween series.

I have to watch all the Screams to see if I agree, but Halloween 1 was intelligent and realistic but flew off the rails after part 2. The only ones I count of that series are parts 1, 2 and H20. Everything else just doesn't exist for me. :lol:


Billy and Stu started a chain of events with Sidney's life. It's not just them who want Sidney to suffer and that's what we see in the sequels. Sidney is paying for the actions of her mom which is messed up. Scream 3 goes more into Sidney's mom's life that you will see.

I forgot the whole story about her Mom being the focal point of the killings. For some reason I remembered her Mom had died many years before so the whole thing was forgotten to me because when it was said she was killed only a year before I was surprised by that.

I'm glad they tell more of that story in the sequels because it's interesting and hopefully we get to see flashbacks of her Mom so we can see how she was first hand. Do they do that?

One thing I didn't like was the rape factor. If Billy & Stu had just killed her, that would've been enough---but to go as far as having them brutally rape her too was over the line imo. Especially since Billy dated and slept with her daughter afterwards. puke: I wish they had just made it so they killed her and left the rape part out.


I think the Scream series does really well with bringing different people in trying to kill Sidney. Billy and Stu created the idea for everyone in Sidney's life to follow with how to make her suffer.

I'm curious to see how they do Scream 5. Scream 4's reveal made sense. I don't know who else they could logically write as a person wanting Sidney dead. They've tapped all the ideas with the first 4. I'm wondering if they'll use Sidney as a way to create the next heroine to restart the series. Even if they do, I think Sidney covered all the bases of why a person would be ghostface killing people and targeting a victim.

Scream 4 I have no recollection of and I wonder if i've even seen it. So don't tell me anything more about that one because I think it's totally new for me. I see it came out in 2011 and I know I wasn't into movies at the time because I was working so much so i'm sure I totally missed out that one.

One thing I found interesting about the first one though is that for a slasher, there's not that many kills in it. You just have the opening with Drew Barrymore and the boyfriend getting killed and then the HS principal before we get to the end and Tatum in the garage and the guy in the news van is killed before the big finale.

Hopefully they ramp up the kills in the next ones. :lol:

That's one thing that annoys me about these slashers...the way the women scream like idiots when they're either running from the killer or finding a dead body. It's not a natural reaction and only makes them look silly.

If I came across a dead body, i'd maybe gasp but what the hell would I scream at the top of my lungs for?! The first thing i'd do is instinctively check if the person is dead or needs help. But in these movies, they just take one look at the body and stand there and scream like a moron rather than act like a real person. :lol:

I want to watch those "Summer" films but will do the "Wrong Turn" collection first since I already have the dvds of that.

Sidney doesn't do much screaming in the Scream franchise. She does more attacking which I find believable of someone in that situation.

Do you have all 6 Wrong Turns? 1 and 4 are my favorites. 6 is the absolute worst. You'll see why when you get around to it.


I didn't either and found him annoying when he went on to Ghost Whisperer. I read on Scream's Wikipedia page that Breckin Meyer was up for that role and I think he would've been better in it.


Breckin is from Freddy's Dead The Final Nightmare. He would have been good in that role. I'm surprise Wes didn't cast him.


I have to watch all the Screams to see if I agree, but Halloween 1 was intelligent and realistic but flew off the rails after part 2. The only ones I count of that series are parts 1, 2 and H20. Everything else just doesn't exist for me. :lol:

I haven't seen Halloween 2 in awhile. I plan to watch it next month for the Halloween season and part of Torgo's 31 days of horror challenge. I do remember I got bored with Halloween 2. I don't think there was enough Jamie Lee Curtis in it and she was the reason I liked the Halloween movies. 4 and 5 are good because Danielle Harris plays a creepy kid pretty well.


I forgot the whole story about her Mom being the focal point of the killings. For some reason I remembered her Mom had died many years before so the whole thing was forgotten to me because when it was said she was killed only a year before I was surprised by that.

I'm glad they tell more of that story in the sequels because it's interesting and hopefully we get to see flashbacks of her Mom so we can see how she was first hand. Do they do that?

One thing I didn't like was the rape factor. If Billy & Stu had just killed her, that would've been enough---but to go as far as having them brutally rape her too was over the line imo. Especially since Billy dated and slept with her daughter afterwards. puke: I wish they had just made it so they killed her and left the rape part out.


In part 1 it was established that Billy and Stu killed Sidney's mom and framed Cotton for it.

I must not have paid attention to the details of Maureen's death. Where did Billy say he raped her before killing her? I don't remember Maureen being raped before murdered.


Scream 4 I have no recollection of and I wonder if i've even seen it. So don't tell me anything more about that one because I think it's totally new for me. I see it came out in 2011 and I know I wasn't into movies at the time because I was working so much so i'm sure I totally missed out that one.

One thing I found interesting about the first one though is that for a slasher, there's not that many kills in it. You just have the opening with Drew Barrymore and the boyfriend getting killed and then the HS principal before we get to the end and Tatum in the garage and the guy in the news van is killed before the big finale.

Hopefully they ramp up the kills in the next ones. :lol:


I won't say anything else about Scream 4. Just that I like it better than 3 :lol:

As for the kill count, I can think of at least 10 death scenes in Scream 2. You got to remember Scream was more about story than gore. Scream wasn't just a flick that liked killing people for no reason. The killers have motives and a layout for who and why they kill.

I must not have paid attention to the details of Maureen's death. Where did Billy say he raped her before killing her? I don't remember Maureen being raped before murdered.

I'm currently watching part 2 on Tubi and there's a commercial break so i'll just answer this part of the post for now before the commercial's over. :lol:

In part 1 when Sidney's in her house watching Gale report on the murders, Gale mentions her mother Maureen saying "Only a year ago, Maureen Prescott, wife and mother, was found raped and murdered not far from this peaceful town square."

I watch with closed captions so it's easier to get passing bits like this being said when you read them.

If you play the film on Tubi on your computer or laptop, you can quickly go to 23:55 to catch it.

Ok, i'm going back to part 2 now and reply to the other stuff later on. :wave:

Finished part 2 and boy do I have some issues with this one. :lol:

I think this is the first time seeing it since it came out because I don't remember much of it, but here's what I had issue with and i'll just list them:

1. Too many television stars and famous movie names in this one and for me it detracted from the movie. The part of the killer should never have been cast with Laurie Metcalf from Roseanne because all I saw was crazy Jackie wielding a knife. :lol: Someone else lesser known should've been in that part imo.

2. It played more like an action or crime drama than horror film to me. The opening was great, but after that didn't have that "horror" feel to it that I usually like. I prefer my horror films more atmospheric, dark and forboding. This played out so light and airy in comparison to the kind of horror I enjoy.

3. When Sidney and her friend are in the car with the protective cops, there's no way in hell that the killer could've ambushed both of them the way it played out! It was almost comical! :lol:

As soon as he smashed in that driver window, the 2nd cop would've had out his gun and blown him away in half a second! It was so unrealistic I kept rolling my eyes.

And then....after the crash, neither girl attempts to smash out the car windows with their feet? Yeah they're probably bulletproof...but at least TRY?!

THEN---Sidney climbs over the killer ever so s l o w l y LOL....I mean come on...a normal person would think and climb over real fast OR better yet think like a normal person and rip off the mask and grab him by the throat and the friend in the backseat helping to attack him.

NEITHER girl thinks to do this while he's obviously lying unconscious!! What was WRONG with them?! It was silly how they both acted. :lol:

And why on earth did Sidney not have a phone on her for emergencies? This is a girl being hunted by a serial killer in protective custody....we saw college students all over campus with phones so it was already mainstream....no way she wouldn't have been given an emergency phone to use.

And she would've called police as soon as that car crashed!

4. And after watching like an idiot and screaming her head off while her friend get killed right in front of her....I saw cars in the background driving on the street.
But instead of running towards the traffic close by....what does Sidney do??!....She runs into an abandoned auditorium LOL. WHY?! WHY didn't she instinctively run towards the traffic that was clearly visible nearby?!

Then of course she's trapped in there by the killer who miraculously made it there before her from the crashed car. How did he know she would go there?! He was already up in the projection booth when she got there and it couldn't have been Jackie from Roseanne because she was busy with Gale since she brought her out later on at gunpoint.

5. Sidney's borfriend was at a keg party just a scene before. How the HELL did he get tied up to that thing on stage so fast if the killer was attacking the police car at the same time?!

How on earth was he kidnapped from the keg party so quickly, tied up and gagged the way he was so quickly and without anyone noticing this?! He seemed to literally be the life of that party the way they were all acting just ONE scene prior!!

So many plot holes in this one that I can't say it's a favorite. The only scene I really enjoyed was the opening scene and the chase with Gale after Dewey got stabbed.

Oh and Jamie Kennedy's kill was unbelievable too....there was a police car right in sight of the van where he was pulled in to get killed....this would've been noticeable since police were obviously watching that campus...unless they were all on lunch breaks at the same time.

Also so convenient that students blaring boom boxes (in the late 90's?!) walk by the van while he gets killed so they can't hear the ruskus....with an OPEN WINDOW as well....I'm to believe NO ONE was close by on that whole campus to see or hear that? Please!! I'm glad he was killed anyway. :lol:

Oh and Buffy the Vampire Slayer was another idiot because literally within 20 seconds of her friend leaving the house the killer asks her over the phone exactly what her friend said about the alarm being turned on.

That tells her he's INSIDE the house and heard her friend say that just a minute ago!! But instead of running out the front door to call after the friend who just left 20 seconds ago...she bolts the front door like an idiot LOL.

I was so glad when she was tossed out the window...she deserved it. :lol:

I hope Scream 3 is better and you say 4 is really good so i'll look forward to that one. But 2 is....omg....I just can't go on anymore....it was "ok", but not one i'll watch again. (Now I know why I haven't seen it again since it came out!)

But it was fun to see it again though if only to be able to rag on it like this. :lol:

I'll watch part 3 on Wednesday because tomorrow is the debates and I want to tune into that.

Oh I almost forgot the worst one of all!!

When crazy Jackie from Roseanne is waving the gun at Sidney and giving that long drawn out speech---OMG I hate when movies do this. If you're going to kill someone, you don't give a grand speech!! You just BLOW THEM AWAY!!

It's the oldest plot device in these films and I hate it. Jackie goes on and on and on explaining everything, and even how she plans to get away with it.

If this woman was so traumatized at her son's death and blamed Sidney and her "slut mom" the rage would be so high that she'd just blow her away in an instant...but she gives a big speech while holding the gun so Sidney can have her plot device and distract her attention and fight back.

And when Cotton had the gun on Crazy Jackie, the rage in her would be so great she would have slit Sidney's throat right there without caring about getting killed herself....yet she bargains with Cotton? Please....my eyeballs again were rolling back in my head at all that. :lol:

Sidney doesn't do much screaming in the Scream franchise. She does more attacking which I find believable of someone in that situation.

Do you have all 6 Wrong Turns? 1 and 4 are my favorites. 6 is the absolute worst. You'll see why when you get around to it.


I bought the Wrong Turn 1-6 Collection for $10 bucks at Walmart a few months ago. I figure that's a great price for all 6 so even if only 3 are great, i'd still get my moneys worth.


Breckin is from Freddy's Dead The Final Nightmare. He would have been good in that role. I'm surprise Wes didn't cast him.

Wikipedia says about that: "The role of Randy Meeks was contested between Jamie Kennedy and Breckin Meyer. The producers favored Kennedy, believing him to best embody the role. As he had no major roles prior to Scream, the studio wanted a more prominent actor than Kennedy to play the character. The producers were adamant that he was the best choice and successfully fought to keep him."

I guess the producers are above the director which is what Wes was? But I agree Breckin would've been the better choice.


I haven't seen Halloween 2 in awhile. I plan to watch it next month for the Halloween season and part of Torgo's 31 days of horror challenge. I do remember I got bored with Halloween 2. I don't think there was enough Jamie Lee Curtis in it and she was the reason I liked the Halloween movies. 4 and 5 are good because Danielle Harris plays a creepy kid pretty well.

I didn't care for any of the ones after part 2 except for H20 and i'm debating whether to break my rule of not watching the latest one where they changed so much history. Part of me is afraid that seeing it would ruin the whole franchise for me. :lol:


I won't say anything else about Scream 4. Just that I like it better than 3 :lol:

As for the kill count, I can think of at least 10 death scenes in Scream 2. You got to remember Scream was more about story than gore. Scream wasn't just a flick that liked killing people for no reason. The killers have motives and a layout for who and why they kill.

Yeah, that's why I say after seeing part 2 that I wouldn't classify this as "horror" but more action/adventure, or crime drama due to it being more story focused over gore and kills.

I'm looking forward to part 4 because you say it's good and also I know I have absolutely no idea of what the plot is and i'm staying far away from the Wikipedia page on it so not to spoil myself. :lol:

I know 3 is the film within the film thing....I don't remember exactly what happens except the basic plot of it.

In part 1 when Sidney's in her house watching Gale report on the murders, Gale mentions her mother Maureen saying "Only a year ago, Maureen Prescott, wife and mother, was found raped and murdered not far from this peaceful town square."


This is so weird because it's always emphasize that Billy and Stu murdered Maureen when referenced in the sequels. They don't mention the rape. That is disgusting now that you bring that up. I'm surprise that alone didn't traumatize Sidney to the extremes before part 2 began.


Finished part 2 and boy do I have some issues with this one. :lol:

Are you sure? :lol: I bet the commercials distracted the brilliance of part 2 for you :p


1. Too many television stars and famous movie names in this one and for me it detracted from the movie. The part of the killer should never have been cast with Laurie Metcalf from Roseanne because all I saw was crazy Jackie wielding a knife. :lol: Someone else lesser known should've been in that part imo.

After seeing Laurie Metcalf, I couldn't picture anyone else doing that part. I thought Laurie did a fantastic job as the killer. This movie definitely helped her experience for when her character held a grocery store hostage on Desperate Housewives and was shooting at people.

I agree there's a lot of 90's TV stars in Scream 2. That's one of the reasons I like it more than part 1. These were stars that I watched in the 90's so they had some acting experience. This was better than bringing in inexperience actors trying to capture what the character's presence is.


2. It played more like an action or crime drama than horror film to me. The opening was great, but after that didn't have that "horror" feel to it that I usually like. I prefer my horror films more atmospheric, dark and forboding. This played out so light and airy in comparison to the kind of horror I enjoy.

Well the time span in the movie was only two days. It was very rushed to get to trying to kill Sidney in the final showdown. Maybe that's why it felt like a crime drama?


3. When Sidney and her friend are in the car with the protective cops, there's no way in hell that the killer could've ambushed both of them the way it played out! It was almost comical! :lol:

I agree to some extent. I think Ghostface pounding on the car to get their attention was corny. He should have just stabbed the cop in the neck to announce his presence there instead of being theatrical.


And then....after the crash, neither girl attempts to smash out the car windows with their feet? Yeah they're probably bulletproof...but at least TRY?!

Sidney does say it's a cop car when they're trapped so maybe we're to assume they knew the windows wouldn't break? That could be why they didn't try.


THEN---Sidney climbs over the killer ever so s l o w l y LOL....I mean come on...a normal person would think and climb over real fast OR better yet think like a normal person and rip off the mask and grab him by the throat and the friend in the backseat helping to attack him.


They wanted to get away from the killer as safe as they could. Sidney screwed up though wanting to know who the killer was. See the killer was never unconscious. Their plan was to lure her back to the auditorium because that's where their grand finale was planned to take place.


4. And after watching like an idiot and screaming her head off while her friend get killed right in front of her....I saw cars in the background driving on the street.
But instead of running towards the traffic close by....what does Sidney do??!....She runs into an abandoned auditorium LOL. WHY?! WHY didn't she instinctively run towards the traffic that was clearly visible nearby?!

Then of course she's trapped in there by the killer who miraculously made it there before her from the crashed car. How did he know she would go there?! He was already up in the projection booth when she got there and it couldn't have been Jackie from Roseanne because she was busy with Gale since she brought her out later on at gunpoint.

Sidney was still close to the college grounds. I think this is why she went back there instead of going elsewhere. I'm going to believe Mickey had his car nearby or some kind of transportation because he did have to get back there to set the stage for the reveal.


5. Sidney's borfriend was at a keg party just a scene before. How the HELL did he get tied up to that thing on stage so fast if the killer was attacking the police car at the same time?!

How on earth was he kidnapped from the keg party so quickly, tied up and gagged the way he was so quickly and without anyone noticing this?! He seemed to literally be the life of that party the way they were all acting just ONE scene prior!!

That wasn't a keg party. They were punishing him for giving Sidney his fraternity letters necklace. They just tied him up on the prop and left him there for someone to find. Mickey knew this and wanted to screw with Sidney's head making her think for a second that she was dating another killer. That moment was actually cruel for both Sidney and Derek because he died with her thinking he could hurt her. She didn't even try to help him because she believed Mickey.


Oh and Jamie Kennedy's kill was unbelievable too....there was a police car right in sight of the van where he was pulled in to get killed....this would've been noticeable since police were obviously watching that campus...unless they were all on lunch breaks at the same time.

Also so convenient that students blaring boom boxes (in the late 90's?!) walk by the van while he gets killed so they can't hear the ruskus....with an OPEN WINDOW as well....I'm to believe NO ONE was close by on that whole campus to see or hear that? Please!! I'm glad he was killed anyway. :lol:

I believe Mrs. Loomis stabbed Randy in the throat before repeatedly stabbing him. I agree it's weird no one heard him scream or yell or anything. I'm believing (even though we don't know for sure) she cut the throat first to affect his vocal cords. Either way, I was just happy he was killed off :lol:

Oh and Buffy the Vampire Slayer was another idiot because literally within 20 seconds of her friend leaving the house the killer asks her over the phone exactly what her friend said about the alarm being turned on.

That tells her he's INSIDE the house and heard her friend say that just a minute ago!! But instead of running out the front door to call after the friend who just left 20 seconds ago...she bolts the front door like an idiot LOL.

I was so glad when she was tossed out the window...she deserved it. :lol:

:rotflmao: How do you really feel? :p Well do you at least give her points for trying to slow the killer down? She threw a few objects at them when trying to get away.


I hope Scream 3 is better and you say 4 is really good so i'll look forward to that one. But 2 is....omg....I just can't go on anymore....it was "ok", but not one i'll watch again. (Now I know why I haven't seen it again since it came out!)

But it was fun to see it again though if only to be able to rag on it like this. :lol:

You might actually like part 3 better. I'm bummed you didn't like part 2. Part 2 is my favorite in the series.


Oh I almost forgot the worst one of all!!

When crazy Jackie from Roseanne is waving the gun at Sidney and giving that long drawn out speech---OMG I hate when movies do this. If you're going to kill someone, you don't give a grand speech!! You just BLOW THEM AWAY!!

It's the oldest plot device in these films and I hate it. Jackie goes on and on and on explaining everything, and even how she plans to get away with it.

If this woman was so traumatized at her son's death and blamed Sidney and her "slut mom" the rage would be so high that she'd just blow her away in an instant...but she gives a big speech while holding the gun so Sidney can have her plot device and distract her attention and fight back.

And when Cotton had the gun on Crazy Jackie, the rage in her would be so great she would have slit Sidney's throat right there without caring about getting killed herself....yet she bargains with Cotton? Please....my eyeballs again were rolling back in my head at all that. :lol:

Well some killers like to have their moment before killing what they consider, a "prize". Mrs. Loomis had all these deaths done in less than 48 hours. She was having her moment and enjoying it. I agree that usually is the killer's biggest fail, but I liked hearing Mrs. Loomis's hatred for Sidney. Laurie played the crazy character so well IMO.


I bought the Wrong Turn 1-6 Collection for $10 bucks at Walmart a few months ago. I figure that's a great price for all 6 so even if only 3 are great, i'd still get my moneys worth.

Whatever happened with Final Destination 2? Did you get a replacement disc? Since that happened, do you check your movies right away after buying to make sure they're closed captioning?


Wikipedia says about that: "The role of Randy Meeks was contested between Jamie Kennedy and Breckin Meyer. The producers favored Kennedy, believing him to best embody the role. As he had no major roles prior to Scream, the studio wanted a more prominent actor than Kennedy to play the character. The producers were adamant that he was the best choice and successfully fought to keep him."

I guess the producers are above the director which is what Wes was? But I agree Breckin would've been the better choice.

I would have thought they'd want someone with a major role to ensure a fanbase would watch the film they're creating? I now remember Breckin was in Clueless. That movie was huge with the teeny boppers in the 90's. They could have had more people watching Scream if they had cast Breckin.


I didn't care for any of the ones after part 2 except for H20 and i'm debating whether to break my rule of not watching the latest one where they changed so much history. Part of me is afraid that seeing it would ruin the whole franchise for me. :lol:

It might. They turned Laurie into a shriveling, alcoholic mess. Sidney's had 4 encounters with Ghostface. She never broke. The new Halloween has Laurie broken after 1 encounter 40 years ago.


Yeah, that's why I say after seeing part 2 that I wouldn't classify this as "horror" but more action/adventure, or crime drama due to it being more story focused over gore and kills.

I'm looking forward to part 4 because you say it's good and also I know I have absolutely no idea of what the plot is and i'm staying far away from the Wikipedia page on it so not to spoil myself. :lol:

I know 3 is the film within the film thing....I don't remember exactly what happens except the basic plot of it.

Yes, Scream 3 is about the cast of the film series Stab getting targeted. It's alright. It's very campy. You'll see what I mean.

This is so weird because it's always emphasize that Billy and Stu murdered Maureen when referenced in the sequels. They don't mention the rape. That is disgusting now that you bring that up. I'm surprise that alone didn't traumatize Sidney to the extremes before part 2 began.

That's why I think it should've been scrapped from the plot. Having her mother killed is bad enough, but being raped too and by her boyfriend is just a bit too much.


Are you sure? :lol: I bet the commercials distracted the brilliance of part 2 for you :p

Like everyone else I despise commercials, but i'm surprised by how much the breaks on Tubi don't bother me at all. They place them pretty spread out and they're not 5 minute commercials like you see on broadcast TV. So far it doesn't affect the movie watching experience for me at all, and again i'm surprised by that because I thought they'd annoy me when I started watching the channel.

For what it is, it's an ok film. I wouldn't give it 1 star or anything that low. But for me, i'd place it right in the middle as average. I don't love it or hate it. If I look at it as more part crime drama, part horror, part parody then it's a good film. :lol:

But it's not something i'd watch if i'm in the mood for scary horror which is the big kick i'm on these days.



After seeing Laurie Metcalf, I couldn't picture anyone else doing that part. I thought Laurie did a fantastic job as the killer. This movie definitely helped her experience for when her character held a grocery store hostage on Desperate Housewives and was shooting at people.

I agree there's a lot of 90's TV stars in Scream 2. That's one of the reasons I like it more than part 1. These were stars that I watched in the 90's so they had some acting experience. This was better than bringing in inexperience actors trying to capture what the character's presence is.

I remember that Desperate Housewives episode and how shocked I was when I saw that scene where she blew away one of the hostages. I agree the actress plays crazy really well and she spent years playing crazy neurotic Jackie on Roseanne...but she's so well known in that part that for me, whenever I see her all I can see is "Jackie".

I have to disagree about the part being played by another actress. Sure an inexperienced one would screw it up, but there are tons of great actresses, even unknown ones who could've done that part just as good or better. For me personally, all I saw was "Jackie" and I admit that's not right, but that role was so big for her that for some viewers it's hard to put aside.




Well the time span in the movie was only two days. It was very rushed to get to trying to kill Sidney in the final showdown. Maybe that's why it felt like a crime drama?

I'd say it was because there was a lot more "action" than "horror" going on throughout the film. Not to say that's a bad thing, but I think if someone is looking for a good horror to watch, I wouldn't recommend this one for them. If they wanted lots of action and crime, with some humor thrown in, then I would.


I agree to some extent. I think Ghostface pounding on the car to get their attention was corny. He should have just stabbed the cop in the neck to announce his presence there instead of being theatrical.

They both had guns and were experienced cops. And there was just a murder on campus. There's no way i'm going to believe that the second cop wouldn't have been Quick Draw McGraw and blew the killer away as soon as he stabbed the driver cop in the neck. I would've redone that whole scene to make it more believable.



Sidney does say it's a cop car when they're trapped so maybe we're to assume they knew the windows wouldn't break? That could be why they didn't try.

Yeah, but when your lives are at stake here I think instinctively they'd have tried over not even bothering. And besides, the killer easily smashed the driver side window in to stab the driver so the window was shown to easily break. :lol:



They wanted to get away from the killer as safe as they could. Sidney screwed up though wanting to know who the killer was. See the killer was never unconscious. Their plan was to lure her back to the auditorium because that's where their grand finale was planned to take place.

When Sidney said she wanted to go back to look that was fine with me, but what a normal person in that situation would do is tell the friend "Run to the street and get help. I'm going back to get a look at him." You could see car lights driving very close by to where they were. This is what I believe a person in that situation would've done.

And if it were me, the first thing I would have done when the killer was slumped over after the crash is tear off the mask, have the friend in back grab his throat from behind and attack from the front with all you've got.

The way they both ever so slowly climbed over him was comical. And how did the killers know she would have gone to the auditorium rather than run for help? Why go to the empty auditorium at night when you need help? It made no sense.

Even if it was close by, the moving cars in the street were instant help right there. No rational person would think to run into the auditorium imo.



That wasn't a keg party. They were punishing him for giving Sidney his fraternity letters necklace. They just tied him up on the prop and left him there for someone to find. Mickey knew this and wanted to screw with Sidney's head making her think for a second that she was dating another killer. That moment was actually cruel for both Sidney and Derek because he died with her thinking he could hurt her. She didn't even try to help him because she believed Mickey.

Ok, it looked like they were all having a big party. When they carried him off, I thought it was just to all go party. :lol:

Well we already know Sidney isn't a very good judge of character. When Derek was denying what Mickey was saying and shouting at him, it came off genuine but she still doubted him enough not to help him. But this is a girl who unknowingly dated the guy who raped and killed her Mom so she's not the best when it comes to her intuition.


I believe Mrs. Loomis stabbed Randy in the throat before repeatedly stabbing him. I agree it's weird no one heard him scream or yell or anything. I'm believing (even though we don't know for sure) she cut the throat first to affect his vocal cords. Either way, I was just happy he was killed off :lol:

I wasn't sure which killer offed who but if it was Mrs. Loomis then damn she had the strength of a linebacker to pull Jamie Kennedy so quickly into that van and overpower him! :eek: but I too was happy when he was killed off.


:rotflmao: How do you really feel? :p Well do you at least give her points for trying to slow the killer down? She threw a few objects at them when trying to get away.

A potted plant lol. And she runs upstairs which was even said in this film or the first one is the stupidest thing to do when talking about the horror film rules. So now after remembering that, i'm actually wondering if its possible that her kill was a parody of that rule because she did everything that was the opposite of what a person should do in that situation. :lol:



You might actually like part 3 better. I'm bummed you didn't like part 2. Part 2 is my favorite in the series.

It's not that I didn't like it. It's an ok film for what it is. But I went into it expecting more of a horror flick and that's not what this is so it's just that my expectations were off.


Well some killers like to have their moment before killing what they consider, a "prize". Mrs. Loomis had all these deaths done in less than 48 hours. She was having her moment and enjoying it. I agree that usually is the killer's biggest fail, but I liked hearing Mrs. Loomis's hatred for Sidney. Laurie played the crazy character so well IMO.

I just always cringe when the killer with the gun gives their big speech. It's always a huge plot device on soaps and always made me want to toss the TV out the window. But I agree that Laurie plays crazy well.


Whatever happened with Final Destination 2? Did you get a replacement disc? Since that happened, do you check your movies right away after buying to make sure they're closed captioning?

Never heard from them and didn't expect to. I knew she was just giving me the brush off. I've learned over the years never to buy anything without seeing that "CC" or "SDH" label on the back of the box. The Final Destination misleadingly had it and that's wrong, so I never needed to check the discs until this experience because I buy nothing until confirming the logos on the box.

After this, I do check discs now just to be sure so I can return stuff before the 30 day window goes away. But I never had issues before FD.




I would have thought they'd want someone with a major role to ensure a fanbase would watch the film they're creating? I now remember Breckin was in Clueless. That movie was huge with the teeny boppers in the 90's. They could have had more people watching Scream if they had cast Breckin.

I guess they wanted someone more nerdier for that part and Jamie Kennedy is much more nerdy than Breckin Meyer is. :lol:




It might. They turned Laurie into a shriveling, alcoholic mess. Sidney's had 4 encounters with Ghostface. She never broke. The new Halloween has Laurie broken after 1 encounter 40 years ago.

If it's ever free on Tubi or another streaming channel, I may check it out. No way i'm paying to see that though. I hate that they changed a solid 40 year history just to reboot the series. And we saw Laurie die in the one after H20 so bringing her back just makes it look like Jamie Lee Curtis needed a paycheck. :lol:



Yes, Scream 3 is about the cast of the film series Stab getting targeted. It's alright. It's very campy. You'll see what I mean.

I'm glad you forewarned be about that. If I go into it knowing it's campy then I won't have such high horror expectations as I did with part 2 so i'll probably have more fun watching it. Will see that one Wednesday night.

That's why I think it should've been scrapped from the plot. Having her mother killed is bad enough, but being raped too and by her boyfriend is just a bit too much.

I agree. I'm going to rewatch Scream 3 and see if they make any mention of her being raped before murdered. I really don't believe they do. All they ever touch on is that Billy and Stu murdered her mother. Scream 3 is about Sidney's mom so I'll pay close attention when there's references of it.


Like everyone else I despise commercials, but i'm surprised by how much the breaks on Tubi don't bother me at all. They place them pretty spread out and they're not 5 minute commercials like you see on broadcast TV. So far it doesn't affect the movie watching experience for me at all, and again i'm surprised by that because I thought they'd annoy me when I started watching the channel.

For what it is, it's an ok film. I wouldn't give it 1 star or anything that low. But for me, i'd place it right in the middle as average. I don't love it or hate it. If I look at it as more part crime drama, part horror, part parody then it's a good film. :lol:

But it's not something i'd watch if i'm in the mood for scary horror which is the big kick i'm on these days.

I watched a movie on Tubi last week called Hangman. It actually fits well with the movie The Rental. Hangman is about a family who comes back from vacation and realize there's more to just their house being broken into than they thought. It's a good movie. A little short, like 80 minutes. You might like it. It's listed in the horror section, but I consider it more suspense than anything else.

I don't consider any of the Scream movies scary horror. It's more brilliant horror because of how the killers always have their motives and the way most characters respond when being attacked. I like Scream for what it is and the characters it created with the core 3.



I remember that Desperate Housewives episode and how shocked I was when I saw that scene where she blew away one of the hostages. I agree the actress plays crazy really well and she spent years playing crazy neurotic Jackie on Roseanne...but she's so well known in that part that for me, whenever I see her all I can see is "Jackie".

I have to disagree about the part being played by another actress. Sure an inexperienced one would screw it up, but there are tons of great actresses, even unknown ones who could've done that part just as good or better. For me personally, all I saw was "Jackie" and I admit that's not right, but that role was so big for her that for some viewers it's hard to put aside.

She'll always be Jackie for me too, but I enjoy seeing her in other projects. I was excited when she got the part on Desperate Housewives and even more thrilled when she would bounce off Marcia Cross's character. I like that Marc Cherry knew to put experienced performers with Marcia Cross because she could hold her own with them.

I think it's because I've been rewatching Scream 2 for over twenty years( ;) ) that I am use to this being Laurie's role and no one else's. I'm also someone who doesn't see a lot of flaws with Scream 2 and enjoy it so much that I like how everything was :)


They both had guns and were experienced cops. And there was just a murder on campus. There's no way i'm going to believe that the second cop wouldn't have been Quick Draw McGraw and blew the killer away as soon as he stabbed the driver cop in the neck. I would've redone that whole scene to make it more believable.

I agree that the other cop didn't act believable. After he sees his partner get stabbed, he pulls out his gun and gets out of the car. I would have stayed in the car waiting for the killer to be in a range where I could shoot them. After he got out, he was just a target practice for Mickey.


And how did the killers know she would have gone to the auditorium rather than run for help? Why go to the empty auditorium at night when you need help? It made no sense.

Even if it was close by, the moving cars in the street were instant help right there. No rational person would think to run into the auditorium imo.

After rewatching Scream 2 a lot of times, I came to the conclusion that the reason Mickey turned the sound on in the auditorium was to make Sidney think there were people in there. She was running for help so what better place than a building where there's usually rehearsals or plays taking place?


Ok, it looked like they were all having a big party. When they carried him off, I thought it was just to all go party. :lol:

Well we already know Sidney isn't a very good judge of character. When Derek was denying what Mickey was saying and shouting at him, it came off genuine but she still doubted him enough not to help him. But this is a girl who unknowingly dated the guy who raped and killed her Mom so she's not the best when it comes to her intuition.

Well they were celebrating having him on the prop to humiliate him for others to see. They didn't stay though after they were done. They had their mission and moved on to something else.

Derek really liked Sidney though. I think when she saw him as he died tell her that he would never hurt her, it traumatized her more. We do see her wear his necklace in Scream 3 so we know his death has some affect on her afterwards. I like that part because everything Sidney went through in the first two films does have an affect on how she lives her life in part 3.


I wasn't sure which killer offed who but if it was Mrs. Loomis then damn she had the strength of a linebacker to pull Jamie Kennedy so quickly into that van and overpower him! :eek: but I too was happy when he was killed off.

When Sidney is going off about how crazy Billy was, Mrs. Loomis tells her to watch it because Randy did and she got carried away with her knife. That's how we know she killed Randy. I don't think strength has that much to do with it. Randy wasn't expecting anyone to be behind him. His guard was down so it is very easy for anyone to jump him and over power him. Either way, he died and I was glad :lol:



A potted plant lol. And she runs upstairs which was even said in this film or the first one is the stupidest thing to do when talking about the horror film rules. So now after remembering that, i'm actually wondering if its possible that her kill was a parody of that rule because she did everything that was the opposite of what a person should do in that situation. :lol:


I think it was a parody because she didn't act that terrified when running from the killer. It was more for show for the viewers. Sarah was pretty big in the 90's so Wes was giving them a helpless view of the vampire slayer.



I just always cringe when the killer with the gun gives their big speech. It's always a huge plot device on soaps and always made me want to toss the TV out the window.

I can't wait to discuss this after you see Scream 3 :lol: It's funny you bring this up because it's mentioned in Scream 3. There's a good reaction to it just like yours.


Never heard from them and didn't expect to. I knew she was just giving me the brush off. I've learned over the years never to buy anything without seeing that "CC" or "SDH" label on the back of the box. The Final Destination misleadingly had it and that's wrong, so I never needed to check the discs until this experience because I buy nothing until confirming the logos on the box.

After this, I do check discs now just to be sure so I can return stuff before the 30 day window goes away. But I never had issues before FD.

That's a shame they false advertised their merchandise and don't plan to correct it. I'm glad your other movies work well though.


If it's ever free on Tubi or another streaming channel, I may check it out. No way i'm paying to see that though. I hate that they changed a solid 40 year history just to reboot the series. And we saw Laurie die in the one after H20 so bringing her back just makes it look like Jamie Lee Curtis needed a paycheck. :lol:

I don't count Halloween Resurrection. That film was so stupid. Jamie's portrayal was worst in that film than the recent one. I watched it once or twice and that was it for me. I still have never seen Halloween 3. When I learned it had nothing to do with Michael, I skipped it to part 4.



I'm glad you forewarned be about that. If I go into it knowing it's campy then I won't have such high horror expectations as I did with part 2 so i'll probably have more fun watching it. Will see that one Wednesday night.


Yeah there's a lot of campy things in Scream 3. The character who plays Gail's part in Stab is so over the top. Gail herself is over the top. She went from serious reporter in part 2 to "I'm here for laughs" in part 3. They tamed her down horribly in part 3 that it felt like it was Monica from Friends we were watching. I didn't like that change. She goes back to Gail from Scream 1 and 2 for Scream 4.

Some people actually consider Scream 3 to be the best. I don't see this so I'm curious to see your review on Scream 3 after you see it.

I agree. I'm going to rewatch Scream 3 and see if they make any mention of her being raped before murdered. I really don't believe they do. All they ever touch on is that Billy and Stu murdered her mother. Scream 3 is about Sidney's mom so I'll pay close attention when there's references of it.

I wonder if they scrapped the rape angle after part 2 thinking it was too much?


I watched a movie on Tubi last week called Hangman. It actually fits well with the movie The Rental. Hangman is about a family who comes back from vacation and realize there's more to just their house being broken into than they thought. It's a good movie. A little short, like 80 minutes. You might like it. It's listed in the horror section, but I consider it more suspense than anything else.

I put it in my queue on Tubi. It looks good. I don't mind 80 minute movies and sometimes the shorter running time eliminates unnecessary stuff and the action flows better.

I don't consider any of the Scream movies scary horror. It's more brilliant horror because of how the killers always have their motives and the way most characters respond when being attacked. I like Scream for what it is and the characters it created with the core 3.

I do enjoy the Gale/Dewey relationship and the end scene where Gale saw Dewey was alive is what I remembered from seeing it in the movies. For some reason I always thought it was from part one.

Courtney Cox does shed her Monica image well, but when you say she's like that character in part 3 i'm not liking that lol. I was so impressed with how I wasn't thinking of Friends when she was on in the first 2 parts.


She'll always be Jackie for me too, but I enjoy seeing her in other projects. I was excited when she got the part on Desperate Housewives and even more thrilled when she would bounce off Marcia Cross's character. I like that Marc Cherry knew to put experienced performers with Marcia Cross because she could hold her own with them.

She did a short sitcom a few years ago that I thought she was good in. I forgot the name of it, but she played the mother of John Ritters real like son in it and it was a pretty good show, but cancelled quickly.

I know she's in the Roseanne reboot but refuse to watch that without Roseanne so I don't know how she's doing in that. I just cant imagine watching Jackie without her sister and don't want to.


I agree that the other cop didn't act believable. After he sees his partner get stabbed, he pulls out his gun and gets out of the car. I would have stayed in the car waiting for the killer to be in a range where I could shoot them. After he got out, he was just a target practice for Mickey.

And he had the gun in his hand the entire time while on the hood of the car which was silly because not once did he take a shot at the killer. The idiot even died gripping the gun in his hand. :lol: It was such a comical scene.


After rewatching Scream 2 a lot of times, I came to the conclusion that the reason Mickey turned the sound on in the auditorium was to make Sidney think there were people in there. She was running for help so what better place than a building where there's usually rehearsals or plays taking place?

Ahh! Ok I didn't notice that aspect of it. So he was already in the auditorium before Sidney then. (How the hell did he manage that?!) So if the sound inside drew her towards the auditorium, I can understand why she went inside there for help.


Derek really liked Sidney though. I think when she saw him as he died tell her that he would never hurt her, it traumatized her more. We do see her wear his necklace in Scream 3 so we know his death has some affect on her afterwards. I like that part because everything Sidney went through in the first two films does have an affect on how she lives her life in part 3.

When I think about it, he was tied up and had no weapon so Sidney should've believed him when he was saying he wasn't the killer. But I guess after seeing how the other 2 in part one worked together, she naturally assumed the same thing was happening again. But yeah, that's incredible guilt to have to carry for poor Sidney!


When Sidney is going off about how crazy Billy was, Mrs. Loomis tells her to watch it because Randy did and she got carried away with her knife. That's how we know she killed Randy. I don't think strength has that much to do with it. Randy wasn't expecting anyone to be behind him. His guard was down so it is very easy for anyone to jump him and over power him. Either way, he died and I was glad :lol:

I didn't like that whole scene because just earlier we saw students sitting on the grass, walking all around the campus, and this murder takes place in the middle of all that where cop presence is there to keep an eye on things.

And the van windows were open so someone would've noticed all that commotion, especially the glass breaking on the side of the van! Also i'm sure even in 1997 there were surveillance cameras all around the campus that would've shown Mrs. Loomis exit the van because she left the mask on the front seat. But maybe I think way too logically for these movies. :lol:


I think it was a parody because she didn't act that terrified when running from the killer. It was more for show for the viewers. Sarah was pretty big in the 90's so Wes was giving them a helpless view of the vampire slayer.

If it was intentionally done as a parody on the dumb victim getting killed for doing stupid things then I can appreciate the scene more. I mean, right after her friend tells her to turn on the alarm and leaves., the killer says the exact same thing to her proving he's inside the house! Yet she bolts the front door and locks herself in there with him!! WTH?! :eek:


I can't wait to discuss this after you see Scream 3 :lol: It's funny you bring this up because it's mentioned in Scream 3. There's a good reaction to it just like yours.

It's interesting if they brought that up after actually doing it in part 2. I'll look out for that when I watch part 3 tomorrow night.



I don't count Halloween Resurrection. That film was so stupid. Jamie's portrayal was worst in that film than the recent one. I watched it once or twice and that was it for me. I still have never seen Halloween 3. When I learned it had nothing to do with Michael, I skipped it to part 4.

That's the one where she died right? When she freaking kissed him was so silly and stupid lol. I agree her portrayal was dumb but I accepted that she was finally dead and hated that they changed that history.

I saw Halloween 3 in theaters and remember being so excited about it. But when it started playing and had absolutely nothing to do with the other 2 parts, I remember feeling so let down and thinking "what the F am I watching here?!" They even showed parts of Halloween on a tv screen during a scene and the whole thing felt surreal. I hated it and wanted my money back afterwards. :lol:


Yeah there's a lot of campy things in Scream 3. The character who plays Gail's part in Stab is so over the top. Gail herself is over the top. She went from serious reporter in part 2 to "I'm here for laughs" in part 3. They tamed her down horribly in part 3 that it felt like it was Monica from Friends we were watching. I didn't like that change. She goes back to Gail from Scream 1 and 2 for Scream 4.

Some people actually consider Scream 3 to be the best. I don't see this so I'm curious to see your review on Scream 3 after you see it.

I don't like that Gale goes into Monica mode, but I can accept a campy installment if I know it's like that going in so my expectations aren't too high. For part 4 I have high expectations since you built it up and I have no recollection of that one. I think I totally ignored it completely when it was released in 2011 so i'm looking forward to that one.

I like all 4 Screams. I also like most of the Scream influenced horror flicks that came out back then- the first 2 I Know What You Did Last Summers, the first 2 Urban Legends, Campfire Tales, Disturbing Behavior, Cherry Falls, the Faculty.

There was a straight to video one that came out back then I remember watching, Lover's Lane, it had the actor that played Les Nessman on WKRP in it.

I wonder if they scrapped the rape angle after part 2 thinking it was too much?

Probably. Sidney sleeping with a guy who not only murdered her mom, but raped her too was very severe. If you think about it, these are teenage boys who did this to an adult woman. That's pretty rare to have in a horror film franchise.

I put it in my queue on Tubi. It looks good. I don't mind 80 minute movies and sometimes the shorter running time eliminates unnecessary stuff and the action flows better.

Well it makes you think of things that could happen that you wouldn't even imagine while on vacation. I liked it. Another good one is Don't Hang Up about these teenage boys who do prank phone calls. OMG CFR, it's horror and suspense what happens. The ending is trippy. You would like that one. I noticed it's on Tubi. Tubi has a huge selection and a really good one. I just get tired of the commercial breaks :lol:

I do enjoy the Gale/Dewey relationship and the end scene where Gale saw Dewey was alive is what I remembered from seeing it in the movies. For some reason I always thought it was from part one.

Courtney Cox does shed her Monica image well, but when you say she's like that character in part 3 i'm not liking that lol. I was so impressed with how I wasn't thinking of Friends when she was on in the first 2 parts.

I think Gale is the best in Scream 2. She's serious, she has attitude, and she'll get in people's faces when she wants. Scream 3 with how much she changed, all I kept thinking was Monica in a Scream movie.

She did a short sitcom a few years ago that I thought she was good in. I forgot the name of it, but she played the mother of John Ritters real like son in it and it was a pretty good show, but cancelled quickly.

I know she's in the Roseanne reboot but refuse to watch that without Roseanne so I don't know how she's doing in that. I just cant imagine watching Jackie without her sister and don't want to.

I remember that sitcom. I didn't care for it.

I refuse to watch anything on ABC because of how they fired Roseanne for a racist comment, but they allow Ken Jeong and Wanda Sykes a pass for their racism. This is why the country is so ****ed up because racism is allowed when people of color do it when it should be treated just like when white people do it. I'm gonna stop now because I don't want this to be a political thread.


Ahh! Ok I didn't notice that aspect of it. So he was already in the auditorium before Sidney then. (How the hell did he manage that?!) So if the sound inside drew her towards the auditorium, I can understand why she went inside there for help.

Yes, there's a scene of him turning the sound on right after Mrs. Loomis at the phone booth says to Gale, "Cotton Weary?" Mickey did this on purpose to lure her there.


When I think about it, he was tied up and had no weapon so Sidney should've believed him when he was saying he wasn't the killer. But I guess after seeing how the other 2 in part one worked together, she naturally assumed the same thing was happening again. But yeah, that's incredible guilt to have to carry for poor Sidney!



Yep and I'm glad we see this continue in part 3. The main aspect I like about part 3 is how Sidney is dealing with the events of the first two. I think it's very realistic and understandable for someone in her situation to respond like that.



I didn't like that whole scene because just earlier we saw students sitting on the grass, walking all around the campus, and this murder takes place in the middle of all that where cop presence is there to keep an eye on things.

And the van windows were open so someone would've noticed all that commotion, especially the glass breaking on the side of the van! Also i'm sure even in 1997 there were surveillance cameras all around the campus that would've shown Mrs. Loomis exit the van because she left the mask on the front seat. But maybe I think way too logically for these movies. :lol:

Yeah that's a good point about security cameras unless Mrs. Loomis had another disguise after she took the mask off. Either way, I'm ok with it and let it slide :lol:


If it was intentionally done as a parody on the dumb victim getting killed for doing stupid things then I can appreciate the scene more. I mean, right after her friend tells her to turn on the alarm and leaves., the killer says the exact same thing to her proving he's inside the house! Yet she bolts the front door and locks herself in there with him!! WTH?! :eek:

Well she probably thought he heard the friend say that through the phone. I remember portable phones like that. The speakers worked very well no matter how hard you try to cover it up to stop them from hearing.



It's interesting if they brought that up after actually doing it in part 2. I'll look out for that when I watch part 3 tomorrow night.


It's not hard to miss. That's why it's so funny and ironic you bring this up because Sidney makes a comment just like that about those speeches :lol:


That's the one where she died right? When she freaking kissed him was so silly and stupid lol. I agree her portrayal was dumb but I accepted that she was finally dead and hated that they changed that history.

I saw Halloween 3 in theaters and remember being so excited about it. But when it started playing and had absolutely nothing to do with the other 2 parts, I remember feeling so let down and thinking "what the F am I watching here?!" They even showed parts of Halloween on a tv screen during a scene and the whole thing felt surreal. I hated it and wanted my money back afterwards. :lol:

She kissed Michael before she died? See it's been so many years since I last saw it that I don't even remember that. I thought she was on a ledge and jumped off the hospital roof? It was very brief with her appearance.

I don't think I'll ever watch Halloween 3. Halloween has already been established as Michael Myers film. You can't do a Halloween without him in it.


I don't like that Gale goes into Monica mode, but I can accept a campy installment if I know it's like that going in so my expectations aren't too high. For part 4 I have high expectations since you built it up and I have no recollection of that one. I think I totally ignored it completely when it was released in 2011 so i'm looking forward to that one.



There's so many jokes and over acting in Scream 3. It's hard to take the story seriously. They actually have a good story, but it's overshadowed by the campiness. Gale even channels Chandler from Friends with one line saying, "Could I be anymore popular?" ohno: There's too many things in Scream 3 that just distract you from what's being produced.

Scream 4 goes back to the beginning with the style of film. They don't go for campiness. I don't remember very many jokes or any actually in the film. Gale is back to being a strong ass bitch which I love seeing. The reveal scene is really well done and just batshit crazy. It was literally like a Kimberly scene from Melrose Place. I can't wait for you to see that.

I like all 4 Screams. I also like most of the Scream influenced horror flicks that came out back then- the first 2 I Know What You Did Last Summers, the first 2 Urban Legends, Campfire Tales, Disturbing Behavior, Cherry Falls.

There was a straight to video one that came out back then I remember watching, Lover's Lane, it had the actor that played Les Nessman on WKRP in it.

I like the first I Know What You Did Last Summer. The second one is alright, but Julie is hard to take at times. I love the first Urban Legends. Rebecca Gayheart is fantastic in that film. The second one is alright. Did you see the third one, Bloody Mary? That one is really good. Campfire Tales and Disturbing Behavior are good. Cherry Falls is great. I like most of Brittany Murphy's films. Never saw Lover's Lane. I saw it has Anna Faris in it. I got to find that one. I like her movies.

Well it makes you think of things that could happen that you wouldn't even imagine while on vacation. I liked it. Another good one is Don't Hang Up about these teenage boys who do prank phone calls. OMG CFR, it's horror and suspense what happens. The ending is trippy. You would like that one. I noticed it's on Tubi. Tubi has a huge selection and a really good one. I just get tired of the commercial breaks :lol:

Hangman sounds really good so i'll probably watch that one Thursday night. Don't Hang Up I remember starting a couple of months ago and the opening scene was pretty good.
But then those 2 annoying guys in the scene afterwards was some really bad acting that I wound up shutting it off during the scene with them in the kitchen. It started looking like one of those sad Amazon Prime homemade, low budget nightmares. Maybe i'll give it another try though.


I refuse to watch anything on ABC because of how they fired Roseanne for a racist comment, but they allow Ken Jeong and Wanda Sykes a pass for their racism. This is why the country is so ****ed up because racism is allowed when people of color do it when it should be treated just like when white people do it. I'm gonna stop now because I don't want this to be a political thread.

I watch zero shows on the broadcast networks that I couldn't even name 3 shows that's out there today that hasn't been on more than 5 years already. Hollywood had really turned me off these last few years for the reasons you mentioned.

I consider horror films the last safe ground for me with Hollywood and hope they never turn PC or "get woke". :rolleyes:

I will do a happy dance the day I read "The Connors" is cancelled. And i'm sure Roseanne will too. :lol:


She kissed Michael before she died? See it's been so many years since I last saw it that I don't even remember that. I thought she was on a ledge and jumped off the hospital roof? It was very brief with her appearance.

I don't think I'll ever watch Halloween 3. Halloween has already been established as Michael Myers film. You can't do a Halloween without him in it.

Yeah she kissed him on his mask right after he stabbed her and then he let her go since she was hanging from him when they tumbled off the roof. I guess they wanted to point out the brother/sister aspect of them....but no way would Laurie freaking KISS him lol. It was so dumb. I'll put the short clip below.


There's so many jokes and over acting in Scream 3. It's hard to take the story seriously. They actually have a good story, but it's overshadowed by the campiness. Gale even channels Chandler from Friends with one line saying, "Could I be anymore popular?" ohno: There's too many things in Scream 3 that just distract you from what's being produced.

If I know this all going in before seeing it then it won't bother me too much. I don't care for humor in my horror films unless it's really dark comedy and even then, only sparingly used.

This is why I stayed away from all those "Scary Movie" parodies. I like my horror straight up suspense, blood and gore. :lol:

Scream 4 goes back to the beginning with the style of film. They don't go for campiness. I don't remember very many jokes or any actually in the film. Gale is back to being a strong ass bitch which I love seeing. The reveal scene is really well done and just batshit crazy. It was literally like a Kimberly scene from Melrose Place. I can't wait for you to see that.

Don't tell me too much about part 4!! Now i'm going to be expecting something big like that...I want to go into this totally blind. I hate with a passion when movies say in the trailers what a "big twist!" that comes in the end. Who wants to know that?!

The point of a twist is not knowing the twist is coming. :lol:

Here's Jamie kissing brother Michael before falling to her death---

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I like the first I Know What You Did Last Summer. The second one is alright, but Julie is hard to take at times. I love the first Urban Legends. Rebecca Gayheart is fantastic in that film. The second one is alright. Did you see the third one, Bloody Mary? That one is really good. Campfire Tales and Disturbing Behavior are good. Cherry Falls is great. I like most of Brittany Murphy's films. Never saw Lover's Lane. I saw it has Anna Faris in it. I got to find that one. I like her movies.

Haven't seen Bloody Mary, should put it on my watch list for October.

Hangman sounds really good so i'll probably watch that one Thursday night. Don't Hang Up I remember starting a couple of months ago and the opening scene was pretty good.
But then those 2 annoying guys in the scene afterwards was some really bad acting that I wound up shutting it off during the scene with them in the kitchen. It started looking like one of those sad Amazon Prime homemade, low budget nightmares. Maybe i'll give it another try though.

It does feel that way that it's a low budget film, but Don't Hang Up does get better. I like the ending because it's trippy and in a way, you can root for it to be like that. I feel it's worth a shot.


I watch zero shows on the broadcast networks that I couldn't even name 3 shows that's out there today that hasn't been on more than 5 years already. Hollywood had really turned me off these last few years for the reasons you mentioned.

I consider horror films the last safe ground for me with Hollywood and hope they never turn PC or "get woke". :rolleyes:

I will do a happy dance the day I read "The Connors" is cancelled. And i'm sure Roseanne will too. :lol:

I watch some current shows. It's getting less though every year. Supernatural is ending. I'm sure Mom will end since Anna left the series. CW allowed Batwoman to get screwed up so I won't be watching the second season of that. I'm good with reruns of my favorite classic shows.

Yeah she kissed him on his mask right after he stabbed her and then he let her go since she was hanging from him when they tumbled off the roof. I guess they wanted to point out the brother/sister aspect of them....but no way would Laurie freaking KISS him lol. It was so dumb. I'll put the short clip below.

Here's Jamie kissing brother Michael before falling to her death---

I'm not a huge fan of Halloween Resurrection so I had forgotten that moment. I didn't even know he stabbed her. I thought she jumped committing suicide. Guess I won't be winning any Halloween quiz games :lol:


If I know this all going in before seeing it then it won't bother me too much. I don't care for humor in my horror films unless it's really dark comedy and even then, only sparingly used.

This is why I stayed away from all those "Scary Movie" parodies. I like my horror straight up suspense, blood and gore. :lol:

There's quite a bit of scenes that make you laugh in Scream 3. I'll address them after your review.

Don't tell me too much about part 4!! Now i'm going to be expecting something big like that...I want to go into this totally blind. I hate with a passion when movies say in the trailers what a "big twist!" that comes in the end. Who wants to know that?!

The point of a twist is not knowing the twist is coming. :lol:


I'm no longer talking about Scream 4 until you see it. When will that be? :lol:


Haven't seen Bloody Mary, should put it on my watch list for October.

I found Lover's Lane! I'm gonna watch it tomorrow pairing it with I've Been Waiting For You starring Sarah Chalke. Lover's Lane looks like one of those cheesy horror flicks in the late 90's early 2000's. Lover's Lane will be my first new horror flick to watch for the 31 Days of Horror Challenge. I added a lot to my lists on Tubi and Shudder so I'll have plenty of new horror flicks to do the challenge :)

It does feel that way that it's a low budget film, but Don't Hang Up does get better. I like the ending because it's trippy and in a way, you can root for it to be like that. I feel it's worth a shot.


I put it back in my queue to watch again. At 83 minutes it's not investing too much of my time if it's a stinker. :lol:


I watch some current shows. It's getting less though every year. Supernatural is ending. I'm sure Mom will end since Anna left the series. CW allowed Batwoman to get screwed up so I won't be watching the second season of that. I'm good with reruns of my favorite classic shows.


Anna Faris left "Mom"?! Isn't she like the STAR of the show? How and why did she leave? Wow...that really shocks me. Was there discord on the set or something? Why would she walk away from that?! :confused:

I'm not a huge fan of Halloween Resurrection so I had forgotten that moment. I didn't even know he stabbed her. I thought she jumped committing suicide. Guess I won't be winning any Halloween quiz games :lol:


I don't even remember what the hell happened in that one after Laurie was killed so it's definitely a forgettable film.


There's quite a bit of scenes that make you laugh in Scream 3. I'll address them after your review.

I'm no longer talking about Scream 4 until you see it. When will that be? :lol:



Scream 3 i'm watching tonight (and I should've watched it last night rather than waste those 2 hours watching the debate. :mad:) And Scream 4 will me my regular Saturday horror night. I'll have to stream that one off Amazon. It says it's $3.99 to rent and $5.00 to buy it, which I guess means you can watch it again and again for as long as it's playing on Amazon? I've never bought streaming films before but it's not a bad price to pay to always have it available on your devices to play whenever you want.

But i'd only do that with movies I know i'll watch over and over again.

And i'll watch Hangman on Tubi tomorrow night. I'm looking forward to that one.

Anna Faris left "Mom"?! Isn't she like the STAR of the show? How and why did she leave? Wow...that really shocks me. Was there discord on the set or something? Why would she walk away from that?! :confused:

Yep, and she was on a two year contract breaking it. I'm still surprise CBS allowed her to do that. With the way the writing has been for her character, she's not the main star anymore. Allison Janney is the main star. Her character has had more stories than any of the core cast. There's speculation the cast was required to take pay cuts and she refused. It's not confirmed but it is odd she walked away from a show she was on contract for.


I don't even remember what the hell happened in that one after Laurie was killed so it's definitely a forgettable film.

I think I remember :lol: I believe a group of college students went to Michael's original house from part 1 with video cameras filming a night there.


Scream 3 i'm watching tonight (and I should've watched it last night rather than waste those 2 hours watching the debate. :mad:) And Scream 4 will me my regular Saturday horror night. I'll have to stream that one off Amazon. It says it's $3.99 to rent and $5.00 to buy it, which I guess means you can watch it again and again for as long as it's playing on Amazon? I've never bought streaming films before but it's not a bad price to pay to always have it available on your devices to play whenever you want.

But i'd only do that with movies I know i'll watch over and over again.

And i'll watch Hangman on Tubi tomorrow night. I'm looking forward to that one.


I'm glad you're watching Scream 3 today. Yes, whatever movie / show you buy from Prime, will automatically be linked to your account to watch over and over again. I have a few Alice episodes from the later years on Prime Video.

Are you doing the 31 Days of Horror Movies challenge? If so, Hangman will be your first of 16 new horror movies you're asked to watch in the challenge. I'm gonna do Lover's Lane. I did go through Tubi and added a lot of horror movies to my list along with Shudder. I'm excited for October. I love Halloween season :dance: :devil:

I was really enjoying Scream 3 until the part where Sidney is on the set of her old house...and the power went out! It was a spooky scene so I kinda jumped when it happened. :lol:

My entire neighborhood is out according to the outage website. So I have to sit and wait by candlelight until it comes back on so I can finish the movie. It's kinda eerie for it to happen during the film so it's a little fun.

So far though I'm really enjoying and think they're doing it pretty clever with the whole movie concept. I just hope I get to finish it tonight! :lol:

Oh and it left Tubi. It says "1 more day" but it's gone already so I had to buy it on Amazon prime video for $2.99. Hopefully it will let me finish it if I have to wait till tomorrow.

After an hour sitting by candlelight as the house slowly began getting warmer with no AC on---the power came back on! :clap:

I went back to the movie and I have to say I really liked this one and you'll probably be shocked to hear I liked it better than the first 2 parts with only a couple of minor nitpicks.

I liked that there was a lot of suspense in this one....you said this was the campy one? I didn't see much camp except for Parker Posey's character playing Gale's part in Stab 3 (but why were they filming Stab 3 when in the last installment was when Stab was out?! Wouldn't they logically have been filming Stab 2 in this one?! :confused:)

I thought Gale acted pretty consistent from how she was in the first 2 parts and didn't find her to act different or campy. She was sarcastic a lot especially to the bitchy actress who was playing her, but I think that's in her character to be that way.

I loved Neve Campbell's performance in this one. She emoted all the feelings of having to go through all this crap again and also the head trip of being reminded of her mother with the voice changing thing, and seeing the crime scene of her death in the studio set. She was totally believable from beginning to end.

I liked the concept of the movie being filmed and the killer offing the victims according to the script. That was fun and I couldn't figure out who the killer was because there was too many fake outs where you're led to think it's the actress playing Gale, the actress playing Sidney, the studio head, and even the cop on the case that I kept going back and forth on who I thought the killer was. :lol:

I should've learned from part 2 that it's usually the one we don't see too much of throughout the film.

The biggest nitpick I have is creating a brother for Sidney to be the killer. It came off so convoluted. If this was the case, then after the first part, he surely would've immediately went to off Sidney after his cohorts were killed.

And when those cohorts were revealing their whole plan at the end to Sidney, neither of them mentioned her brother. BS! We know they never mentioned him because he wasn't dreamed up by the writers yet. :lol:

It was all just dumb, but I did enjoy how it all played out even if I thought giving her a brother was silly. The fight scenes between him and Sidney were great and suspenseful. I didn't remember any of this but I do know I saw it many years ago.

The other nitpicks are minor....The whole scene when Dewey and Gale arrived at the mansion it began unraveling a little for me. For one, as soon as Gale & Dewey called the number from "Sidney" and then found the phone ringing in the house with the voice changer, they logically would've immediately called the police to descend on that house.

But what did they do?!...Dewey gives Gale the gun and goes off by himself to wander around the house looking for the others. LOL....how stupid!! AND when Gale and Jennifer watch Angelina being killed with a knife....they both scream like frightened girls while GALE IS HOLDING A LOADED GUN!! WTF?!

When they both watched the killer pull away Jennifer's body at the bottom of the steps, they scream like idiots and run away. GALE HAS A LOADED GUN for Christ sakes, we know from previous films she knows how to use it and can be a badass...so why the hell didn't she just run down those stairs and blow him away?! It was so freaking unrealistic, especially after we've seen her in action before. It was so out of character for her to scream like some brain dead idiot in a slasher film! Maybe this is where you call her campy? :lol:


And when Sidney ran from the killer and into the study, she immediately looked at the light on the floor and realized a hidden door was where the shelf was and after moving all the books, opened it with ease.

Later, Dewey & Gale figure out the door....yet can't manage to open it?! It was a piece of cake for Sidney though. :confused:

And the last nitpick is where Sidney had the bulletproof vest on. When they had a shot of it in the police office before she left, it was obvious she was going to put it on. And oh so conveniently, she doesn't get shot in her head...especially from an expert on horror films! I think her brother would've definitely aimed between her eyes to off her for good! But it's a minor nitpick because I know they seed Sidney for the next part. :lol:

I was waiting for someone to mention the big speech with the gun like you said someone brings up but it never came. Was it in part 4? Actually JUST say yes or no to that because I don't want to know anything else for that one. I know I never saw it so i'm really looking forward to it. But I have my suspicions of what's to come after what you said about the reveal. I hope i'm not right though because I want to be surprised. :lol:

So part 3 is actually my favorite one because I think it's the most suspenseful one so far. The scene where Sidney discovers the studio set of her house in Woodsboro was creepy (and that's just when all the lights went out and I was suddenly sitting in pitch dark---perfect timing for a good scare!)

Oh and what made me happy was that everyone was finally calling the phones "cell phones" instead of "cellulars". I guess somewhere between 1996 & 1999 the change in vocabulary was officially made! :lol:

I think i'm going to do part 4 tomorrow night because I don't want to wait till Saturday. After this one, I really want to see where things go from here. So i'll start the Wrong Turns on Saturday.

^ I don’t think I’ve seen Scream 3 since around when it came out back in 2000-01. I remember Jay and Silent Bob’s cameo, “Hey Connie, how’s Maury?” :lol:

I liked that there was a lot of suspense in this one....you said this was the campy one? I didn't see much camp except for Parker Posey's character playing Gale's part in Stab 3 (but why were they filming Stab 3 when in the last installment was when Stab was out?! Wouldn't they logically have been filming Stab 2 in this one?! :confused:)

I think it's campy. They go more for laughs than scares and kills in part 3. Start with Gale bringing a camera in a purse with holes to the studio and Dewey busts her. She responds, "Right, you bought me this purse." Then her Chandler line. Her sneaking around Jennifer's house to spy on Dewey. The cameos of Jay and Silent Bob, Carrie Fisher, and the cheesy videotape of Randy. It was hard to take seriously. Jennifer's character was so over the top. She's imitating smoking very badly in one scene and says to Gale, "you're the reason I'm doing this!" ohno: And then the scene with the gas leak. Jennifer needs to know how it ends so the guy playing Dewey goes back in KNOWING there's a killer in there and stupidly lights a match? He really couldn't smell the gas leak? It was badly written.

Aside from that, there's two scenes I always get a chuckle from. When actress Sidney gets killed and dragged off, Gale and Jennifer are at the top of the stairs watching this. They both turn to each other and scream running away. Then when Tyson is running away, he turns back to see Ghost Face and says very comically, "Oh you mother****er" :rotflmao: Scream 3 was very much a comedy horror and these two scenes are my favorite.



I thought Gale acted pretty consistent from how she was in the first 2 parts and didn't find her to act different or campy. She was sarcastic a lot especially to the bitchy actress who was playing her, but I think that's in her character to be that way.

You look at Gale from Scream 2 who rarely gave Mrs. Loomis's character the time of day when she was pretending to be Debbie Salt. "Debbie" was pushy and bitchy. Gale responded with sarcastic remarks and walked away. She had a tough attitude persona to her in Scream 2 than weakened in Scream 3 because of her feelings for Dewey. It was like a jealous Monica from Friends. She acted like she had a point to prove to everyone in Scream 3 when she was just casual and herself in the first two.


I loved Neve Campbell's performance in this one. She emoted all the feelings of having to go through all this crap again and also the head trip of being reminded of her mother with the voice changing thing, and seeing the crime scene of her death in the studio set. She was totally believable from beginning to end.

I agree with this. I feel her change of wanting to hide and not be found was very realistic. She went through two horrible ordeals. That's got to have some kind of affect. I think they portrayed that very well in this one.


I liked the concept of the movie being filmed and the killer offing the victims according to the script. That was fun and I couldn't figure out who the killer was because there was too many fake outs where you're led to think it's the actress playing Gale, the actress playing Sidney, the studio head, and even the cop on the case that I kept going back and forth on who I thought the killer was. :lol:


I thought that was corny. They really emphasize the "who is it" aspect in the film. While it was subtle in the first two films, they went full on showing us it could be this person or that person.

I also didn't think it was believable to have a voice changer with everyone's voices on it. When Gale and Dewey used it, we heard their original voices come through. How did Roman get it working to where his voice couldn't be heard?


The biggest nitpick I have is creating a brother for Sidney to be the killer. It came off so convoluted. If this was the case, then after the first part, he surely would've immediately went to off Sidney after his cohorts were killed.

I actually like this part because we learn Maureen had a whole other life no one in Woodsboro knew about. A year after Billy and Stu, Sidney had Mrs. Loomis and Mickey after her. Roman wasn't able to do it then. I think he was taking his time trying to come up with the perfect scenario to kill Sidney. We saw from his cat and mouse game with Sidney, he was messing with her psychologically bringing up her mom. He wanted to really make her confused so when he went for the kill, it would be worth it.

It was all just dumb, but I did enjoy how it all played out even if I thought giving her a brother was silly. The fight scenes between him and Sidney were great and suspenseful. I didn't remember any of this but I do know I saw it many years ago.


Did you like Sidney telling Roman to get on with him trying to kill her since she heard all the reveal speeches before? :lol: Sidney had a lot of attitude and strength in this movie. They really hit her character spot on with keeping it realistic.

The other nitpicks are minor....The whole scene when Dewey and Gale arrived at the mansion it began unraveling a little for me. For one, as soon as Gale & Dewey called the number from "Sidney" and then found the phone ringing in the house with the voice changer, they logically would've immediately called the police to descend on that house.

But what did they do?!...Dewey gives Gale the gun and goes off by himself to wander around the house looking for the others. LOL....how stupid!!


They were going for comedy in this one. It wasn't supposed to be taken literally with them.


AND when Gale and Jennifer watch Angelina being killed with a knife....they both scream like frightened girls while GALE IS HOLDING A LOADED GUN!! WTF?!

When they both watched the killer pull away Jennifer's body at the bottom of the steps, they scream like idiots and run away. GALE HAS A LOADED GUN for Christ sakes, we know from previous films she knows how to use it and can be a badass...so why the hell didn't she just run down those stairs and blow him away?! It was so freaking unrealistic, especially after we've seen her in action before. It was so out of character for her to scream like some brain dead idiot in a slasher film! Maybe this is where you call her campy? :lol:

:lol: That's why I laugh at this scene so much. It's stupid how they react but funny at the same time. Gale just acts like Monica in this Scream. She doesn't have the toughness from the first 2. And you're right about Gale knowing how to use a gun. She used it on Billy and Mickey. It's like they wanted Gale to be a comedy character because of how successful Friends was and wanted to keep Courteney along those lines of acting. I didn't like it.


And when Sidney ran from the killer and into the study, she immediately looked at the light on the floor and realized a hidden door was where the shelf was and after moving all the books, opened it with ease.

Later, Dewey & Gale figure out the door....yet can't manage to open it?! It was a piece of cake for Sidney though. :confused:

I thought it was because Sidney locked the door that Gale and Dewey couldn't get in? Remember she locks the door before going inside the room? That's the door Dewey breaks down to get in.


I was waiting for someone to mention the big speech with the gun like you said someone brings up but it never came. Was it in part 4? Actually JUST say yes or no to that because I don't want to know anything else for that one. I know I never saw it so i'm really looking forward to it. But I have my suspicions of what's to come after what you said about the reveal. I hope i'm not right though because I want to be surprised. :lol:


It was in this one. When Roman is going on and on about how he didn't have this or why he's killing people and he's going to kill Sidney, she stops him. She says something like "get on with it I've heard this **** before" :lol: She was tired of the big reveal speeches like you were. The movie in a lot of scenes felt like a parody of how horror films are. It was like a Scary Movie type film.


I think i'm going to do part 4 tomorrow night because I don't want to wait till Saturday. After this one, I really want to see where things go from here. So i'll start the Wrong Turns on Saturday.


Not gonna lie, I wonder if you'll like Scream 4 now. Scream 4 is nothing like Scream 3. You seem to enjoy the lighter telling of Scream. I don't see Scream 3 all that suspenseful. I just saw a bunch of comedy thrown into a story about how an abandoned child wanted revenge on people he thought deserved it. Hopefully I'm wrong and you're able to enjoy Scream 4. I think it's really good and I consider it better than Scream 3.

I think it's campy. They go more for laughs than scares and kills in part 3. Start with Gale bringing a camera in a purse with holes to the studio and Dewey busts her. She responds, "Right, you bought me this purse." Then her Chandler line. Her sneaking around Jennifer's house to spy on Dewey. The cameos of Jay and Silent Bob, Carrie Fisher, and the cheesy videotape of Randy. It was hard to take seriously. Jennifer's character was so over the top. She's imitating smoking very badly in one scene and says to Gale, "you're the reason I'm doing this!" ohno: And then the scene with the gas leak. Jennifer needs to know how it ends so the guy playing Dewey goes back in KNOWING there's a killer in there and stupidly lights a match? He really couldn't smell the gas leak? It was badly written.

That scene bothered me too because the killer would have to expect that exact same person would go back into the house for the script and stay there to light the match to blow up the house.

SO many different scenarios could've taken place. He could've just went in, grabbed the script and ran back out to the rest of them to read it. Or they all could've stayed inside and got blown up. It was too coincidental that the killer's plan worked exactly the way he wanted it. :rolleyes:

And yeah the gas would've been instantly smelled before he lit that match.

But overall, I didn't find it anymore campy or humorous than the others which both had a lot of. I found it more suspenseful so that may have overshadowed the humor part of it.

After watching, I like to go to the Wikipedia page to read up on the film's production. It said when this was filmed in the spring of '99, it was right after the Columbine massacre and the studio was adamant of not portraying school killings in the wake of that for fear of backlash.

It says a lot of script rewrites were made and the setting was originally to be in Woodsboro but they changed it to Hollywood to give it distance from the school and small town.

The original ending was apparently supposed to be a crazed "Stab" fan club that was doing all the killings which I think would've been fun. :lol:

So I think shoving in a brother for Sidney was a result of last minute rewrites and also why the kills aren't as graphic or bloody as the previous ones. But they managed to keep the suspense factor high which I like in my horror films.


Aside from that, there's two scenes I always get a chuckle from. When actress Sidney gets killed and dragged off, Gale and Jennifer are at the top of the stairs watching this. They both turn to each other and scream running away. Then when Tyson is running away, he turns back to see Ghost Face and says very comically, "Oh you mother****er" :rotflmao: Scream 3 was very much a comedy horror and these two scenes are my favorite.

I hated that scene where Gale and Jennifer scream at the top of the stairs because it's so damn silly when Gale is holding a loaded gun! That alone took so much away from her character because Gale would NOT do that after what she went through in the previous installments.

She blew Billy away in part 1 without hesitation, got herself shot in part 2 by Crazy Jackie and calmly says "the bullet bounced off a rib", and we're supposed to believe she's a sniveling, screamer when she sees the killer drag a victim down the stairs and run?! UM...NO!!

What I would've liked to have seen was Jennifer scream like a sniveling bitch and Gale turn to her and say something like "Get a grip girl, i've been through this before" and she mutters to herself "I can't believe this idiot is playing me" before running down the stairs to try shooting him and he gets away. That's who Gale is at this point in the series imo.


You look at Gale from Scream 2 who rarely gave Mrs. Loomis's character the time of day when she was pretending to be Debbie Salt. "Debbie" was pushy and bitchy. Gale responded with sarcastic remarks and walked away. She had a tough attitude persona to her in Scream 2 than weakened in Scream 3 because of her feelings for Dewey. It was like a jealous Monica from Friends. She acted like she had a point to prove to everyone in Scream 3 when she was just casual and herself in the first two.

Well in the beginning when she met Jennifer, she pretty much psychoanalyed and summed up Gale in a couple of sentences referring to her inner "little girl" which pissed her off. In response she's like "Little girl...little girl?!" Gale wants to eat her alive and it gets worse when she sees there's something between her and Dewey.

So I think it was a natural Gale reaction to that. Who wouldn't be offended and jealous by this bitch who apparently knows you inside out when you first meet them and is dating your ex boyfriend.

I loved the scene where Gale punched her too. So I think she was pretty much consistent with they person she was in parts 1 and 2. Also remember, this is a few years afterwards too and it's expected that the character grow and soften a little with age.


I agree with this. I feel her change of wanting to hide and not be found was very realistic. She went through two horrible ordeals. That's got to have some kind of affect. I think they portrayed that very well in this one.

When I first read on Wikipedia after seeing Scream 1 that Drew Barrymore was originally intended to play Sidney, I thought that would've been great to see. But after seeing how Neve played Sidney by part 3, I don't think Drew could've pulled off all the emotions that Neve did for that character. So the better actress thankfully won that part.


I thought that was corny. They really emphasize the "who is it" aspect in the film. While it was subtle in the first two films, they went full on showing us it could be this person or that person.

I liked it because it kept me on my toes and wondering who it could be.

I also didn't think it was believable to have a voice changer with everyone's voices on it. When Gale and Dewey used it, we heard their original voices come through. How did Roman get it working to where his voice couldn't be heard?

I immediately suspended my disbelief at that and gave it a pass. Yeah, how on earth would they be able to get all those voices so exact that it would fool everyone? But I just chalk it up to incredible technology and let it be.


I actually like this part because we learn Maureen had a whole other life no one in Woodsboro knew about. A year after Billy and Stu, Sidney had Mrs. Loomis and Mickey after her. Roman wasn't able to do it then. I think he was taking his time trying to come up with the perfect scenario to kill Sidney. We saw from his cat and mouse game with Sidney, he was messing with her psychologically bringing up her mom. He wanted to really make her confused so when he went for the kill, it would be worth it.

I think Billy & Stu would've let Sidney know about the brother when they were giving their big speech at the end of part 1. But I guess i'll have to give it a pass since this wasn't the intended original ending and the brother was inserted late in production and they couldn't rewrite history. So i'll just have to go with him waiting in the shadows for the perfect time to go after Sidney.

I did like the history we learned of Maureen. All that was really interesting and done well and in a believable way. None of it came off as contrived or convoluted imo.


Did you like Sidney telling Roman to get on with him trying to kill her since she heard all the reveal speeches before? :lol: Sidney had a lot of attitude and strength in this movie. They really hit her character spot on with keeping it realistic.

Yeah, but I didn't make the connection to referring to the big speeches made at gunpoint. Sidney was crying and really pissed off at that point so it came off more as anger and telling him to take responsibility for his life. I didn't at all make the connection to my hate for the grand gunpoint speech....probably since he was holding a knife and not a gun I guess. :lol:


They were going for comedy in this one. It wasn't supposed to be taken literally with them.

It's funny though because even with the comedy there, I focused more on the suspense that the comedy stayed in the background with me and didn't overshadow everything else. I wouldn't at all say this was on par with those Scary Movie parodies because the story was still taken very seriously.


:lol: That's why I laugh at this scene so much. It's stupid how they react but funny at the same time. Gale just acts like Monica in this Scream. She doesn't have the toughness from the first 2. And you're right about Gale knowing how to use a gun. She used it on Billy and Mickey. It's like they wanted Gale to be a comedy character because of how successful Friends was and wanted to keep Courteney along those lines of acting. I didn't like it.


Making Gale not use her gun was a huge mistake and did ruin her character. Even if Gale has aged a little and softened up through her relationship with Dewey, she knows how to use a gun and isn't afraid to use it either. It was all bad writing at the expense of the character.

I did see shades of Monica a couple of times too. I guess by 1999 after playing her for 5 years at that point, the character had rubbed off a little on Courtney. In comparison, everything I see with Jennifer Aniston is always Rachel Green...either she played herself in Friends or has zero range as an actress and is incapable of playing anyone else. But Courtney isn't nearly as bad because she's been acting for years before Friends came along.


I thought it was because Sidney locked the door that Gale and Dewey couldn't get in? Remember she locks the door before going inside the room? That's the door Dewey breaks down to get in.

Sidney locks the inner door behind the shelf door, but the shelf door is just pulled shut. Dewey & Gale never manage to get that shelf door open but Sidney easily found the pull behind the books to open it in 10 seconds. :lol:


Not gonna lie, I wonder if you'll like Scream 4 now. Scream 4 is nothing like Scream 3. You seem to enjoy the lighter telling of Scream. I don't see Scream 3 all that suspenseful. I just saw a bunch of comedy thrown into a story about how an abandoned child wanted revenge on people he thought deserved it. Hopefully I'm wrong and you're able to enjoy Scream 4. I think it's really good and I consider it better than Scream 3.


It's interesting you say there wasn't much suspense in Scream 3 because I thought there was. The whole cat & mouse in the mansion, Jenny McCarthy's kill in the studio offices, the scene where Sidney is in her old house on the studio lot, and when Sidney gets her first phone call from the killer at her house. I found all of that suspenseful.

Speaking of when Sidney got her first phone call, we see her immediately go for her gun which is definitely expected of her to have by this point. Yet when she's alone in the studio, she has just a small thingy of mace on her?! I call BS on that because there's absolutely no way she wouldn't be packing wherever she went alone. Even to the toilet she'd have a loaded gun on her. :lol:

Also, at this point she'd have her cell phone too, and she's screaming for Dewey through out the stages rather than pull out her phone to call anyone. :confused:

Will watch part 4 tonight. Amazon is charging $3.99 for this one yet part 3 was only $2.99...I don't get it. And they gave me one month of Prime for free yet you still have to pay for these films?! I guess Amazon only give you the crappy pictures for free with Prime membership. :lol:

That scene bothered me too because the killer would have to expect that exact same person would go back into the house for the script and stay there to light the match to blow up the house.

SO many different scenarios could've taken place. He could've just went in, grabbed the script and ran back out to the rest of them to read it. Or they all could've stayed inside and got blown up. It was too coincidental that the killer's plan worked exactly the way he wanted it. :rolleyes:

And yeah the gas would've been instantly smelled before he lit that match.

But overall, I didn't find it anymore campy or humorous than the others which both had a lot of. I found it more suspenseful so that may have overshadowed the humor part of it.

Exactly! Why didn't he just grab the script and leave? What was he thinking just staying inside and read it out loud with a killer near them? Horror Movie 101, you stay with the group. You don't wander off ohno:



After watching, I like to go to the Wikipedia page to read up on the film's production. It said when this was filmed in the spring of '99, it was right after the Columbine massacre and the studio was adamant of not portraying school killings in the wake of that for fear of backlash.

It says a lot of script rewrites were made and the setting was originally to be in Woodsboro but they changed it to Hollywood to give it distance from the school and small town.

The original ending was apparently supposed to be a crazed "Stab" fan club that was doing all the killings which I think would've been fun. :lol:

So I think shoving in a brother for Sidney was a result of last minute rewrites and also why the kills aren't as graphic or bloody as the previous ones. But they managed to keep the suspense factor high which I like in my horror films.

Yeah, I just learned of that a few weeks ago from JamesG on here. I don't think I would have preferred that take in Scream. I like it better where it's an actual killer and the victims are actually dead. Having a story where the victims are all alive is a waste of time. I stopped watching Days of Our Lives because of that.


I hated that scene where Gale and Jennifer scream at the top of the stairs because it's so damn silly when Gale is holding a loaded gun! That alone took so much away from her character because Gale would NOT do that after what she went through in the previous installments.

I read you hated it. Part way into the movie I got the feeling they wanted comedy so that's how I started taking it as it went along.



She blew Billy away in part 1 without hesitation, got herself shot in part 2 by Crazy Jackie and calmly says "the bullet bounced off a rib", and we're supposed to believe she's a sniveling, screamer when she sees the killer drag a victim down the stairs and run?! UM...NO!!

What I would've liked to have seen was Jennifer scream like a sniveling bitch and Gale turn to her and say something like "Get a grip girl, i've been through this before" and she mutters to herself "I can't believe this idiot is playing me" before running down the stairs to try shooting him and he gets away. That's who Gale is at this point in the series imo.

Yep. Gale should have been a lot stronger in reacting to things than just screaming and running. I don't think she screams in part 4. I should know this because I rewatched it the other day to be ready for your review :lol: I just know she's back to being tough Gale from the first two movies. Also smarter too. She catches onto things in Scream 4 that you will see.


Well in the beginning when she met Jennifer, she pretty much psychoanalyed and summed up Gale in a couple of sentences referring to her inner "little girl" which pissed her off. In response she's like "Little girl...little girl?!" Gale wants to eat her alive and it gets worse when she sees there's something between her and Dewey.

So I think it was a natural Gale reaction to that. Who wouldn't be offended and jealous by this bitch who apparently knows you inside out when you first meet them and is dating your ex boyfriend.

I loved the scene where Gale punched her too. So I think she was pretty much consistent with they person she was in parts 1 and 2. Also remember, this is a few years afterwards too and it's expected that the character grow and soften a little with age.


That's true. That would annoy me too if someone who had just met me tried psychoanalyzing me.


When I first read on Wikipedia after seeing Scream 1 that Drew Barrymore was originally intended to play Sidney, I thought that would've been great to see. But after seeing how Neve played Sidney by part 3, I don't think Drew could've pulled off all the emotions that Neve did for that character. So the better actress thankfully won that part.

I like Drew in her romantic comedies with Adam Sandler, but no way could she play Sidney the way Neve has. Neve has a more serious acting tone to her where Drew is more of a bubbly, fun actress. I also don't think Drew would be open to the many sequels Scream keeps producing. They would have killed Sidney off in Scream 2 or Scream 3 if Drew was playing her.


I immediately suspended my disbelief at that and gave it a pass. Yeah, how on earth would they be able to get all those voices so exact that it would fool everyone? But I just chalk it up to incredible technology and let it be.

Well I wanna know where do you get this device? :lol: If this actually existed, think of how much fun prank phone calls could be :rotflmao:


I think Billy & Stu would've let Sidney know about the brother when they were giving their big speech at the end of part 1. But I guess i'll have to give it a pass since this wasn't the intended original ending and the brother was inserted late in production and they couldn't rewrite history. So i'll just have to go with him waiting in the shadows for the perfect time to go after Sidney.

I did like the history we learned of Maureen. All that was really interesting and done well and in a believable way. None of it came off as contrived or convoluted imo.

Billy and Stu didn't know Roman was her brother though. I thought he just sent Billy the tape of his dad and Maureen together? As we saw, Roman was filming his own videos so it's possible he was watching outside a window as Billy was watching the video.


Yeah, but I didn't make the connection to referring to the big speeches made at gunpoint. Sidney was crying and really pissed off at that point so it came off more as anger and telling him to take responsibility for his life. I didn't at all make the connection to my hate for the grand gunpoint speech....probably since he was holding a knife and not a gun I guess. :lol:

Yeah but like you, Sidney hates those big speeches too saying "I've heard this **** before. Get on with it" :lol: It's like go Sidney, take control from the killer.


It's funny though because even with the comedy there, I focused more on the suspense that the comedy stayed in the background with me and didn't overshadow everything else. I wouldn't at all say this was on par with those Scary Movie parodies because the story was still taken very seriously.


I saw more humor in Scream 3 than the previous two. I still think Scream 3 is good with the story. I like a lot of things from Scream 3, but the comedy scenes really stand out to me.


Making Gale not use her gun was a huge mistake and did ruin her character. Even if Gale has aged a little and softened up through her relationship with Dewey, she knows how to use a gun and isn't afraid to use it either. It was all bad writing at the expense of the character.

I did see shades of Monica a couple of times too. I guess by 1999 after playing her for 5 years at that point, the character had rubbed off a little on Courtney. In comparison, everything I see with Jennifer Aniston is always Rachel Green...either she played herself in Friends or has zero range as an actress and is incapable of playing anyone else. But Courtney isn't nearly as bad because she's been acting for years before Friends came along.

You'll be glad to know, there's no shades of Monica in Scream 4. She's back to the serious, I take no **** Gale. I almost screwed up putting a spoiler in but I stopped myself :lol:


Sidney locks the inner door behind the shelf door, but the shelf door is just pulled shut. Dewey & Gale never manage to get that shelf door open but Sidney easily found the pull behind the books to open it in 10 seconds. :lol:

Oh yeah, I get what you're talking about. Where Sidney pulled all those books off, you would think they would be able to find the lever right away.


It's interesting you say there wasn't much suspense in Scream 3 because I thought there was. The whole cat & mouse in the mansion, Jenny McCarthy's kill in the studio offices, the scene where Sidney is in her old house on the studio lot, and when Sidney gets her first phone call from the killer at her house. I found all of that suspenseful.

Speaking of when Sidney got her first phone call, we see her immediately go for her gun which is definitely expected of her to have by this point. Yet when she's alone in the studio, she has just a small thingy of mace on her?! I call BS on that because there's absolutely no way she wouldn't be packing wherever she went alone. Even to the toilet she'd have a loaded gun on her. :lol:

Also, at this point she'd have her cell phone too, and she's screaming for Dewey through out the stages rather than pull out her phone to call anyone. :confused:

Will watch part 4 tonight. Amazon is charging $3.99 for this one yet part 3 was only $2.99...I don't get it. And they gave me one month of Prime for free yet you still have to pay for these films?! I guess Amazon only give you the crappy pictures for free with Prime membership. :lol:


Yeah, there's those moments where you ask yourself, "Why didn't they do this? Why didn't they do that?" I'm glad you were able to enjoy Scream 3 though :) I hope Scream 5 is good. I'm curious if one of the core 3 is going to be the big opening kill. It's been over 20 years since the first one. I'm sure there's someone that wants to restart the Scream series with a new Sidney type character.

There are a lot of free movies and shows with Prime membership. I have Prime. I don't watch it as much as the other streaming apps though.

Watched Scream 4---I discovered it's available for free on IMDB TV with commercials and can be played from the Amazon Prime channel. Saved $3.99 that way! :clap:

Btw if you have Prime they have a promotion going that if you watch anything on Prime Video, you get a $5.00 promotional credit. I saw the offer on the Prime Video page and activated it.

The movie was good...and I called the reveal at the beginning of the film!! :lol:

As soon as Jill was said to be Sidney's cousin in the car at the start of the film, and that she never met her I was like "SHE'S the killer and jealous of her cousin and wants to be the new Sidney!":eek:

But there were fake outs afterwards that led me astray during the film...I actually debated if it was Charlie after I read that part 3 was originally intended to be a killer from a Stab fan club and he fit the role for that.

But the fake outs kept be going back and forth throughout the movie trying to figure out who it was. I think the next one should let us know from the start who it is so we're not distracted from trying to figure the reveal out. It can get tiring. :lol:

I didn't like the actress that played Jill though. She was so terrible and her acting was atrocious...then I looked her up and saw she's related to Julia Roberts and was probably given the part for being related to her. :rolleyes:

I think it would've been much better with a more competent actress in that role...she was so bad she annoyed me and gets valentina's hammer from me. :bash:

And Sidney STILL isn't packing heat after all this time. When the killer was outside the house, she reaches for a kitchen knife. I don't think so. As soon as all this started up again, a person in her position would've been packing a gun at ALL times. That was a small nitpick that I found unrealistic after all the trauma she's been through. She's not a stupid character and would arm herself with a gun at this point.

Gale was her usual self but I was distracted a bit by Courtney Cox's Botox injections...this was when she started inflating her face to the point where it began to look like she was wearing a mask herself. :lol:

Dewey is always Dewey in these films and that's a good thing. He thankfully never changes. :)

There were times I thought it was Maureen's sister who was the killer, then Trevor (but I did think that was TOO obvious) and I even wondered if it was Deputy Judy but that wouldn't have made any sense.

And when Jill unveiled herself I was like "I KNEW IT!!" :happyface

But I was shocked that there was so much more left to go...that whole ending was insane!! I know Sidney survives because of part 5, but when Jill stabbed her in the stomach I was shocked because others get stabbed in the stomach and drop dead instantly. :lol:

And it was nuts when Jill thought she had killed everyone and psychotically assaulted herself in the living room. OMG what a crazy psycho bitch she was lol. Even crashing herself through a glass coffee table! :eek:

It's kinda sad they made a person like this be the one to try and kill Sidney. Her own baby cousin. And she kills her own mother too. Whatever mental progress Sidney's made over the last 10 years has been wiped away with this and I wouldn't be shocked if she's in a mental institution in part 5....or living a reclusive life like Laurie was in Halloween, isolated in the middle of nowhere and waiting for the next time the killer comes for her.

I think part 5 has to be really extra imaginative to keep this fresh. I don't know how they're going to successfully pull it off....maybe making Sidney herself snap and be the killer?! :confused:

I do agree one of the main stars should be permanently killed. I don't know what the so called rules are for a 5th sequel but I think it has to be so big and shocking at this point.

The opening scenes were kind of weak though. I liked Kirby's scene where she had to answer the questions to the killer over the phone---that makes it more fun and suspenseful and I hope the next part has an opening like that.

I still enjoyed part 3 more than this one, but the ending to this was so crazy especially that final scene in the hospital room. That was so nuts!! And I LOL'd when Deputy Judy popped up and Gale was like "You're still alive?" It was so funny and unexpected. :lol:

I was really happy when Jill got killed not only because she's a hateful psycho character, but an awful actress too. I've never seen anything with her in it before and hope never to come across her again. And i'm not a fan of Hollywood nepotism. Unless it's Tori Spelling---because she's Tori Spelling. :)

Well that wraps it up for the Screams! I can't wait till part 5 is released...is it filming now or starting to soon? I know the pandemic is halting a lot of production so maybe it won't be till 2022 when it comes out? :confused:

Tomorrow i'll watch Hangman and I looked at a few of those movies in Torgos thread and will try and watch some of those next week. I don't think i'll be able to watch all of them. Is that the challenge? To see them all before Halloween?

^ Scream is essentially one big family feud. Sydney’s boyfriend then his mom, then half-brother and cousin.

^ Scream is essentially one big family feud. Sydney’s boyfriend then his mom, then half-brother and cousin.

I can't imagine who they plan to be the killer in the next one. It has to be really spectacular imo to keep it fresh.

I just read on the Scream 5 Wikipedia page that they've already started filming part 5 last week! :clap:

"Filming was originally scheduled to start in May 2020. Principal photography instead began in Wilmington, North Carolina, on September 22, 2020. Filming will take place across several avenues in the city, including exterior shots of Williston Middle School and interior shots of Cardinal Lanes Shipyard and 10th Street (between Ann and Castle streets)."

Set for January 2022 release----ugh so far away. :(

The movie was good...and I called the reveal at the beginning of the film!!

As soon as Jill was said to be Sidney's cousin in the car at the start of the film, and that she never met her I was like "SHE'S the killer and jealous of her cousin and wants to be the new Sidney!"

But there were fake outs afterwards that led me astray during the film...I actually debated if it was Charlie after I read that part 3 was originally intended to be a killer from a Stab fan club and he fit the role for that.

But the fake outs kept be going back and forth throughout the movie trying to figure out who it was. I think the next one should let us know from the start who it is so we're not distracted from trying to figure the reveal out. It can get tiring.

I thought as soon as we learn Jill is the cousin of Sidney that she was going to replace Sidney in the sequel Scream movies. I wasn't expecting her to be the killer. I'm still waiting for Sidney to be killed off and seeing who will be the replacement.


I didn't like the actress that played Jill though. She was so terrible and her acting was atrocious...then I looked her up and saw she's related to Julia Roberts and was probably given the part for being related to her.

I think it would've been much better with a more competent actress in that role...she was so bad she annoyed me and gets valentina's hammer from me. :bash:

:lol: Emma Roberts isn't so bad as long as she's playing a bitch. Her face has a natural bitch expression. It's hard to take her serious in anything else.

I keep giving Valentina the link over here so she can join us on horror movie chats but she'd rather stay at The Facts of Life board. I've grown tired of posting over there. It's usually the same things over and over again. Plus some of the regulars have left.


And Sidney STILL isn't packing heat after all this time. When the killer was outside the house, she reaches for a kitchen knife. I don't think so. As soon as all this started up again, a person in her position would've been packing a gun at ALL times. That was a small nitpick that I found unrealistic after all the trauma she's been through. She's not a stupid character and would arm herself with a gun at this point.

I didn't understand that either. She knew right at the beginning in Woodsboro she was the target. Her rental trunk had blood smears and a cellphone. Hello ohno: :lol:


Gale was her usual self but I was distracted a bit by Courtney Cox's Botox injections...this was when she started inflating her face to the point where it began to look like she was wearing a mask herself.

I don't know if it was after this or before, but she screwed up her face so badly that she was crying in an interview over it. I always use Courteney and Teri Hatcher as examples for women I know who want to have plastic surgery or injections. You don't always get the result you're expecting. There's nothing wrong with natural aging.


But I was shocked that there was so much more left to go...that whole ending was insane!!

I agree! Once the reveal happened, it went total Melrose Place on us :rotflmao:

And it was nuts when Jill thought she had killed everyone and psychotically assaulted herself in the living room. OMG what a crazy psycho bitch she was lol. Even crashing herself through a glass coffee table! :eek:

I was laughing the whole time during this. Not because it was comical but because this actually is real. People do crazy **** like this for fame. I mean, not become a serial killer and play a victim. I mean they will stage accidents to look like they've been attacked. I thought Emma did a good job acting that scene out. I was picturing Kimberly on Melrose Place when she trashed the beach house while Michael was at work to frame him for assault. Bitches be crazy man :crazy: :lol:


It's kinda sad they made a person like this be the one to try and kill Sidney. Her own baby cousin. And she kills her own mother too. Whatever mental progress Sidney's made over the last 10 years has been wiped away with this and I wouldn't be shocked if she's in a mental institution in part 5....or living a reclusive life like Laurie was in Halloween, isolated in the middle of nowhere and waiting for the next time the killer comes for her.

It will be interesting to see how Sidney has handled the latest attempt on her life with this sequel coming up. Scream 3, she was isolated in the middle of nowhere. She's already been down that road. I don't think she'll do it again.

I think part 5 has to be really extra imaginative to keep this fresh. I don't know how they're going to successfully pull it off....maybe making Sidney herself snap and be the killer?! :confused:


I thought about this. If written well, they could pull this off. The final ending to Sidney is by having her kill people around her to reenact the horrors she has been through.


I do agree one of the main stars should be permanently killed. I don't know what the so called rules are for a 5th sequel but I think it has to be so big and shocking at this point.

I really don't want it to be Gale. I love Courteney Cox. She's an incredible actress. I want her to stay with the Screams because she's a badass. Unless they weaken her like in Scream 3.

The opening scenes were kind of weak though. I liked Kirby's scene where she had to answer the questions to the killer over the phone---that makes it more fun and suspenseful and I hope the next part has an opening like that.


I agree. Scream 4 has a really weak opening because you don't know which one it is you're watching. I get Anna and Kristen were big back in the 2010's so they wanted them to do cameos. I would have preferred they were part of the original story and not an opening to one of their fake films.

I still enjoyed part 3 more than this one, but the ending to this was so crazy especially that final scene in the hospital room. That was so nuts!! And I LOL'd when Deputy Judy popped up and Gale was like "You're still alive?" It was so funny and unexpected. :lol:

Jill being the killer and the self assault makes me like this one more. It's so far out there that I just couldn't believe it :lol:


I was really happy when Jill got killed not only because she's a hateful psycho character, but an awful actress too. I've never seen anything with her in it before and hope never to come across her again. And i'm not a fan of Hollywood nepotism. Unless it's Tori Spelling---because she's Tori Spelling. :)

Are you a Tori fan? I don't care for Tori's acting. She was the worst part of 90210. When she did that comedy series with Jennie years ago, I learned she couldn't do comedy either. I find Tori dry with her acting.

Emma is in a comedy movie called We're The Millers with Jennifer Aniston and Jason Sudeikis. Since you haven't seen it, I recommend it. Emma is not the main star. She's a side character. It's a really funny film. I like the chemistry between Jennifer and Jason. They're a great duo on screen.

Well that wraps it up for the Screams! I can't wait till part 5 is released...is it filming now or starting to soon? I know the pandemic is halting a lot of production so maybe it won't be till 2022 when it comes out? :confused:

I'm hoping they wait until Covid is controlled before filming. I'm sure a lot of shows and movies filming now with social distancing will not turn out as well as they planned. I don't want Scream 5 altered in anyway. We've waited 9 years. We can wait a little longer :)


Tomorrow i'll watch Hangman and I looked at a few of those movies in Torgos thread and will try and watch some of those next week. I don't think i'll be able to watch all of them. Is that the challenge? To see them all before Halloween?

You don't have to watch what Torgo listed. Torgo was just listing the films they will watch this month. I'm doing my own list of movies I found off Tubi and Shudder along with my tradition of horror movies I watch every October. I hope you like Hangman :)

I thought as soon as we learn Jill is the cousin of Sidney that she was going to replace Sidney in the sequel Scream movies. I wasn't expecting her to be the killer. I'm still waiting for Sidney to be killed off and seeing who will be the replacement.

That crossed my mind too, but then I saw what a weak actress she was as the movie went on and no way in hell was she going to be the star if the series continued. Her acting looked even worse next to a pro like Neve. :lol:

:lol: Emma Roberts isn't so bad as long as she's playing a bitch. Her face has a natural bitch expression. It's hard to take her serious in anything else.

I saw on the production of the film on Wikipedia that some actress named Ashley Greene was set to play Jill. It states : "Ashley Greene was offered the role of Sidney's cousin, Jill, but the role later went to Emma Roberts." Makes me wonder if Aunt Julia pulled some strings to get her niece the role. And looking at Ashley Greene's pic I think she would've been much better in the role at least looks wise.


I keep giving Valentina the link over here so she can join us on horror movie chats but she'd rather stay at The Facts of Life board. I've grown tired of posting over there. It's usually the same things over and over again. Plus some of the regulars have left.

I asked her to come over here too but I guess she'd rather discuss FOL. And yeah, there's only so much you can talk about a show after you've seen it and there are no new episodes to discuss. I never saw the later episodes until this year, but after that....there's really not much left to talk about imo. But I enjoyed my time reviewing it.


I didn't understand that either. She knew right at the beginning in Woodsboro she was the target. Her rental trunk had blood smears and a cellphone. Hello ohno: :lol:

I guess their reasoning was if Sidney had a gun the movie would be over in 20 minutes, but there are ways she could have one and the killer still manage to get away until the end of the film. By not having her have that kind of protection on her after 4 movies where she's a target is just silly.


I don't know if it was after this or before, but she screwed up her face so badly that she was crying in an interview over it. I always use Courteney and Teri Hatcher as examples for women I know who want to have plastic surgery or injections. You don't always get the result you're expecting. There's nothing wrong with natural aging.

I didn't know about that. Now I feel badly for her. But she had to have been aware of what women looked like when they get those Botox injections. It makes them look like reflections in a fun house mirror.


I agree! Once the reveal happened, it went total Melrose Place on us :rotflmao:

I was laughing the whole time during this. Not because it was comical but because this actually is real. People do crazy **** like this for fame. I mean, not become a serial killer and play a victim. I mean they will stage accidents to look like they've been attacked. I thought Emma did a good job acting that scene out. I was picturing Kimberly on Melrose Place when she trashed the beach house while Michael was at work to frame him for assault. Bitches be crazy man :crazy: :lol:

Yes, didn't Kimberly pull something like that? When Jill banged her head into the mirror I had a flashback of Kimberly doing the same thing. Was that the beach house scene where she beat herself up to blame it on Michael? I'll have to search on you tube for that scene. :lol:


It will be interesting to see how Sidney has handled the latest attempt on her life with this sequel coming up. Scream 3, she was isolated in the middle of nowhere. She's already been down that road. I don't think she'll do it again.

Since it's another 10 years later I think it's logical to give her a family at this point but have her kid already be 9 or 10 and maybe the killer murders her husband as he asks Sidney to answer scary movie questions over the phone and then kidnaps her kid. I think that would be so intense. :eek:


I thought about this. If written well, they could pull this off. The final ending to Sidney is by having her kill people around her to reenact the horrors she has been through.

After thinking of my scenario of Sidney's husband and kid, part 6 could be where she snaps and goes on a murder spree or her own kid is now a young adult and goes psycho...when you start thinking about it, there's so many avenues to go down with this story.


I really don't want it to be Gale. I love Courteney Cox. She's an incredible actress. I want her to stay with the Screams because she's a badass. Unless they weaken her like in Scream 3.

I agree that Gale is too much a part of Scream and her death should come in the absolute final one....I like Dewey, but we've seen him almost killed so many times that if they finally do off him it won't be too much of a shock. :lol:


Are you a Tori fan? I don't care for Tori's acting. She was the worst part of 90210. When she did that comedy series with Jennie years ago, I learned she couldn't do comedy either. I find Tori dry with her acting.

I'm not a fan that I follow her work, but I liked her a lot on 90210 back in the day and I like how she's aware of what her image is and all the nepotism surrounding her career and doesn't take any of it seriously and actually embraces it.
Also, I love how she did Scream 2 after she was basically insulted in Scream when Neve made that crack about Tori playing her in the movie. That shows me she's a good sport about it so how can you not like someone like that?

And she wins a spot in my heart for all those absurdly titled 1990's tv movies. I still laugh when I think of the ridiculous movie title "Mother, May I Sleep With Danger?" :lol:

Back in 1996 me and a friend visited Hollywood and drove by Tori's house just to see the massive mansion she lived in and were shooed away by a security guard out front. :lol:

Emma is in a comedy movie called We're The Millers with Jennifer Aniston and Jason Sudeikis. Since you haven't seen it, I recommend it. Emma is not the main star. She's a side character. It's a really funny film. I like the chemistry between Jennifer and Jason. They're a great duo on screen.

I heard of that film when it came out, but I make it a rule to stay away from Jennifer Aniston films. She's Rachel in everything she does and I scratch my head at how this woman has had such a long movie career with such little range. Throw in Emma Roberts and i'm picturing a complete nightmare. :eek:


I'm hoping they wait until Covid is controlled before filming. I'm sure a lot of shows and movies filming now with social distancing will not turn out as well as they planned. I don't want Scream 5 altered in anyway. We've waited 9 years. We can wait a little longer :)

It said on the Scream 5 Wiki page that they began filming last week. I'm sure they can film it normally with strict Covid testing and screening done on cast and crew. And i'm sure the state wouldn't allow them to film without having very strict protocols in place.


You don't have to watch what Torgo listed. Torgo was just listing the films they will watch this month. I'm doing my own list of movies I found off Tubi and Shudder along with my tradition of horror movies I watch every October. I hope you like Hangman :)

I'm now watching one movie a night after totally giving up on TV so i'll have more time to get a lot of horror films in now. Are the Shudder originals any good? I noticed many of the Shudder films are on Tubi and the only difference is the originals that Shudder has.

So if I sign back up, that would be the main reason since most of their content is very similar to Tubi. I did a trial last week and watched a couple of films that Tubi didn't have but may sign back up if the originals are worth watching.

I saw on the production of the film on Wikipedia that some actress named Ashley Greene was set to play Jill. It states : "Ashley Greene was offered the role of Sidney's cousin, Jill, but the role later went to Emma Roberts." Makes me wonder if Aunt Julia pulled some strings to get her niece the role. And looking at Ashley Greene's pic I think she would've been much better in the role at least looks wise.

I haven't seen Ashley in any of the projects she's done. I saw she's in the Twilight movies. I'm glad she didn't get the part. No way she could do the crazy reveal scene like Emma. Twilight is full of actresses who get whiny over their shiny vampires :rolleyes: ohno: I'm anti-Twilight.



I asked her to come over here too but I guess she'd rather discuss FOL. And yeah, there's only so much you can talk about a show after you've seen it and there are no new episodes to discuss. I never saw the later episodes until this year, but after that....there's really not much left to talk about imo. But I enjoyed my time reviewing it.

Yeah, I've been discussing the show for twenty years. I'm over it. I will always love The Facts of Life and watch it as much as you do All in The Family. That will never change. In fact, I have it on right now watching one of the season 8 episodes :D


I didn't know about that. Now I feel badly for her. But she had to have been aware of what women looked like when they get those Botox injections. It makes them look like reflections in a fun house mirror.

Here's the article (https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/courteney-cox-opens-cosmetic-surgery-regrets/story?id=48205701) where she discusses it. I felt sorry for her too but she did it to herself. Women don't want to age, but they have no idea how the end result will look when consider cosmetic surgery.



Yes, didn't Kimberly pull something like that? When Jill banged her head into the mirror I had a flashback of Kimberly doing the same thing. Was that the beach house scene where she beat herself up to blame it on Michael? I'll have to search on you tube for that scene. :lol:

Yes, Kimberly did towards the end of season 3. It was right before she started seeing Henry in the mirror. She stalked Amanda framing Michael and trashed the beach house and injured herself so the cops would arrest Michael for assault. It was an awesome build up to Kimberly blowing up the complex. Kimberly was THE ULTIMATE 90's primetime psycho bitch :lol:


Since it's another 10 years later I think it's logical to give her a family at this point but have her kid already be 9 or 10 and maybe the killer murders her husband as he asks Sidney to answer scary movie questions over the phone and then kidnaps her kid. I think that would be so intense. :eek:

That would be an interesting angle. Although if they did that, I think it would feel like Ransom. The Mel Gibson movie where he son was kidnapped and he had to do all these things to get him back. I do think Sidney should have a family though.


After thinking of my scenario of Sidney's husband and kid, part 6 could be where she snaps and goes on a murder spree or her own kid is now a young adult and goes psycho...when you start thinking about it, there's so many avenues to go down with this story.


I hope we get spoilers for how Scream 5 will be. I know you hate spoilers, but I like knowing before I watch how things go :lol:


I agree that Gale is too much a part of Scream and her death should come in the absolute final one....I like Dewey, but we've seen him almost killed so many times that if they finally do off him it won't be too much of a shock. :lol:

I don't care if Dewey dies. Just never Gale. You know after thinking of it, I think Gale would be the most likely to snap over Sidney. If Dewey ever dies from GhostFace, I could see Gale snapping hard and wanting people to hurt as much as she is.


I'm not a fan that I follow her work, but I liked her a lot on 90210 back in the day and I like how she's aware of what her image is and all the nepotism surrounding her career and doesn't take any of it seriously and actually embraces it.
Also, I love how she did Scream 2 after she was basically insulted in Scream when Neve made that crack about Tori playing her in the movie. That shows me she's a good sport about it so how can you not like someone like that?

And she wins a spot in my heart for all those absurdly titled 1990's tv movies. I still laugh when I think of the ridiculous movie title "Mother, May I Sleep With Danger?" :lol:

Back in 1996 me and a friend visited Hollywood and drove by Tori's house just to see the massive mansion she lived in and were shooed away by a security guard out front. :lol:

Scream was so huge that a lot of celebrities were calling Wes wanting a part. I'm sure Tori asked just like a lot of other celebrities did. Sarah Michelle Gellar said when she was asked, she didn't care what the part was that she accepted. She just wanted to be in the sequel because of how good part 1 was.

I think the only Tori movie I saw was Death of A Cheerleader. I was more of a fan of Tiffani Amber Thiessen's TV movies. Tiffani did so many good ones. I miss the 90's. We lost creative TV movies for reality shows :rolleyes:


I heard of that film when it came out, but I make it a rule to stay away from Jennifer Aniston films. She's Rachel in everything she does and I scratch my head at how this woman has had such a long movie career with such little range. Throw in Emma Roberts and i'm picturing a complete nightmare. :eek:

She's not like Rachel in We're The Millers. She actually does a good job. She's a stripper in the movie and does a dance scene that was pretty good. It's amazing how well she looks as she gets older. I don't think she's done any work to her face and I hope she never does.


It said on the Scream 5 Wiki page that they began filming last week. I'm sure they can film it normally with strict Covid testing and screening done on cast and crew. And i'm sure the state wouldn't allow them to film without having very strict protocols in place.

I know with Supernatural they had to rewrite the series finale to accommodate social distancing. I hope the final result turned out ok. I think with big projects they should just wait until they're able to film it the way they see it.

I'm now watching one movie a night after totally giving up on TV so i'll have more time to get a lot of horror films in now. Are the Shudder originals any good? I noticed many of the Shudder films are on Tubi and the only difference is the originals that Shudder has.

So if I sign back up, that would be the main reason since most of their content is very similar to Tubi. I did a trial last week and watched a couple of films that Tubi didn't have but may sign back up if the originals are worth watching.


There's a few good Shudder movies I recommend. Monster Party, Haunt, Daniel Isn't Real, and Can't Take It Back are good. I recommend watching Haunt before any other original. That one was a freaky Halloween theme movie.

Tubi has a HUGE selection. I have quite a bit added to my list on there.

Yes, Kimberly did towards the end of season 3. It was right before she started seeing Henry in the mirror. She stalked Amanda framing Michael and trashed the beach house and injured herself so the cops would arrest Michael for assault. It was an awesome build up to Kimberly blowing up the complex. Kimberly was THE ULTIMATE 90's primetime psycho bitch :lol:

That was the season Melrose reached it's fever pitch. I remember wishing the summer would go quickly after the blow up finale in May. I think that was the only time I went nuts about a primetime soap cliffhanger. :lol:


That would be an interesting angle. Although if they did that, I think it would feel like Ransom. The Mel Gibson movie where he son was kidnapped and he had to do all these things to get him back. I do think Sidney should have a family though.

Maybe then just have the killer chase her kid and start killing their friends, but then they'd have to make her kid be high school age and that would mess up the timeline. But I do love my idea of Sidney having a husband who's killed in the opening scene with Sidney on the phone and seeing it as it happens. That would really F her mind up so bad. :eek:


I hope we get spoilers for how Scream 5 will be. I know you hate spoilers, but I like knowing before I watch how things go :lol:

Things like the general plot, I would want to know, but if you mean spoilers like knowing who's killed beforehand---where's the fun in that? All i'd want to know are general things like setting and very basic plot but zero specifics.

I don't even watch trailers anymore because they give so much away and I feel like i've seen the movie afterwards.


I don't care if Dewey dies. Just never Gale. You know after thinking of it, I think Gale would be the most likely to snap over Sidney. If Dewey ever dies from GhostFace, I could see Gale snapping hard and wanting people to hurt as much as she is.

I like that idea actually and could see it working if done well. Gale has already killed without remorse and so has Sidney for that matter---both women could have their minds snap and become Ghostface themselves. But I wonder if that would that be considered too obvious for horror audiences?


There's a few good Shudder movies I recommend. Monster Party, Haunt, Daniel Isn't Real, and Can't Take It Back are good. I recommend watching Haunt before any other original. That one was a freaky Halloween theme movie.

I see Haunt is on Amazon and other streaming places so it doesn't seem to be a Shudder original. I can watch that one before Halloween since it's Halloween themed. I also see it got 4 stars with over 1,800 ratings. I'll try and watch that one next week.

Tubi has a HUGE selection. I have quite a bit added to my list on there.

Tubi does have a lot. My queue has grown so big there that I want to hold off on paying for Shudder until I have nothing left on Tubi to watch.

I tried watching "Hangman" on Tubi tonight but I just couldn't keep going and shut it off at the 30 minute mark. The whole film is shot from home surveillance cameras! Ugh. I just can't get into that style of film making. It's like those shaky found footage cams I despise. As soon as I see that, off the movie goes.

I FF a little before I gave up and it seemed to continue with the surveillance camera perspective. I can't take 90 minutes of that. I guess i'm too old school. :lol:

When that was shut off, I went to the next film in my queue which was absurdly called "Tell Me How I Die", but the premise looked really good and it started off that way before falling apart about halfway through.

The premise was a bunch of college kids who take part in a drug trial at a creepy place in the middle of snowy mountains and start seeing how others will die inside the place after taking the drug.

It sounds great doesn't it? But the plot became so complicated and convoluted that I had no idea what the hell was going on by the end and didn't even care. It could've been so much better in more capable hands yet still kept my interest till the end of it.

Saturday starts the Wrong Turns so a new thread will be made for that. I have a very vague memory of the first one...but it's so foggy that it should feel new to me again. :lol:

I'm also going to add "SPOILERS!" to the title of this thread since all the reveals are discussed here and I don't want to ruin it for others who haven't seen it.

That was the season Melrose reached it's fever pitch. I remember wishing the summer would go quickly after the blow up finale in May. I think that was the only time I went nuts about a primetime soap cliffhanger. :lol:

:lol: I agree. The critics were right though. After that finale, they were never going to be able to top that. That was their most intense and insane story they could ever do.


Maybe then just have the killer chase her kid and start killing their friends, but then they'd have to make her kid be high school age and that would mess up the timeline. But I do love my idea of Sidney having a husband who's killed in the opening scene with Sidney on the phone and seeing it as it happens. That would really F her mind up so bad. :eek:

It's possible. I could see Sidney getting killed by a new Ghostface and start targeting her family. Go full circle where Sidney's legacy of being Ghostface's target is passed down to her child to endure like she did.


Things like the general plot, I would want to know, but if you mean spoilers like knowing who's killed beforehand---where's the fun in that? All i'd want to know are general things like setting and very basic plot but zero specifics.

I don't even watch trailers anymore because they give so much away and I feel like i've seen the movie afterwards.

I just want to know if Sidney is going to be killed off in the beginning. I know we're close to her character having a swan song in one of these sequels. I just want to know when so I'm prepared for it :lol: I don't need to know who the killer is. I actually prefer not knowing that. I just want to know if any of the core three die.

I like that idea actually and could see it working if done well. Gale has already killed without remorse and so has Sidney for that matter---both women could have their minds snap and become Ghostface themselves. But I wonder if that would that be considered too obvious for horror audiences?

I think the reason they haven't made Sidney a killer is because she's define as the realistic hero in films. They don't want to ruin her image of how she's portrayed to the audience. I don't think she'll ever be the killer. Gale on the other hand could end up as one. She loves solving mysteries so she appears to know where killers screw up to help her from doing that.


I see Haunt is on Amazon and other streaming places so it doesn't seem to be a Shudder original. I can watch that one before Halloween since it's Halloween themed. I also see it got 4 stars with over 1,800 ratings. I'll try and watch that one next week.

Shudder lists it as one of their original exclusives. If you can get Haunt on Amazon for free without paying Shudder, I recommend it. Haunt was good. I've rewatched it a few times since it came out.


Tubi does have a lot. My queue has grown so big there that I want to hold off on paying for Shudder until I have nothing left on Tubi to watch.

I tried watching "Hangman" on Tubi tonight but I just couldn't keep going and shut it off at the 30 minute mark. The whole film is shot from home surveillance cameras! Ugh. I just can't get into that style of film making. It's like those shaky found footage cams I despise. As soon as I see that, off the movie goes.

I FF a little before I gave up and it seemed to continue with the surveillance camera perspective. I can't take 90 minutes of that. I guess i'm too old school. :lol:

When that was shut off, I went to the next film in my queue which was absurdly called "Tell Me How I Die", but the premise looked really good and it started off that way before falling apart about halfway through.

The premise was a bunch of college kids who take part in a drug trial at a creepy place in the middle of snowy mountains and start seeing how others will die inside the place after taking the drug.

It sounds great doesn't it? But the plot became so complicated and convoluted that I had no idea what the hell was going on by the end and didn't even care. It could've been so much better in more capable hands yet still kept my interest till the end of it.

Saturday starts the Wrong Turns so a new thread will be made for that. I have a very vague memory of the first one...but it's so foggy that it should feel new to me again. :lol:

I'm also going to add "SPOILERS!" to the title of this thread since all the reveals are discussed here and I don't want to ruin it for others who haven't seen it.


I'm sorry you didn't like Hangman. I don't care for the type of filming they used either, but I stuck with it because I kept wondering when the guy would get caught living in their attic. It reminded me of Hider in The House (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097503/). If you haven't seen that one, it's another good flick to watch. It's filmed like a regular movie.

I think I have Tell Me How I Die on my list :lol: I put so many unseen movies on there for the challenge. I've seen 7 horror films out of 16 for new ones in the challenge. I'm going to take a break from horror movies I haven't seen because I have regular horror franchises I watch every October for the Halloween season.

I'm watching Wrong Turn right now so it'll be fresh in my head for when we discuss it :)

Shudder lists it as one of their original exclusives. If you can get Haunt on Amazon for free without paying Shudder, I recommend it. Haunt was good. I've rewatched it a few times since it came out.


I found out I could get a second 7 day trial for Shudder through Amazon Prime so I did that tonight and will spend next week watching all the exclusives on there before the trial runs out. :lol:

I'll start Monday with Haunt.


I'm sorry you didn't like Hangman. I don't care for the type of filming they used either, but I stuck with it because I kept wondering when the guy would get caught living in their attic. It reminded me of Hider in The House (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097503/). If you haven't seen that one, it's another good flick to watch. It's filmed like a regular movie.

Hider in the House looks good and I don't think i've seen it. It's free on Amazon so i'll squeeze that one in before my 30 day Prime trial runs out.

I think I have Tell Me How I Die on my list :lol: I put so many unseen movies on there for the challenge. I've seen 7 horror films out of 16 for new ones in the challenge. I'm going to take a break from horror movies I haven't seen because I have regular horror franchises I watch every October for the Halloween season.

I'm watching Wrong Turn right now so it'll be fresh in my head for when we discuss it :)


Tell Me How I Die is worth a watch but it's frustrating because I think it could've been so much better than it was and it's begging for someone more competent to give it a remake imo.

Hider in the House looks good and I don't think i've seen it. It's free on Amazon so i'll squeeze that one in before my 30 day Prime trial runs out.

Tell Me How I Die is worth a watch but it's frustrating because I think it could've been so much better than it was and it's begging for someone more competent to give it a remake imo.


I'll still check Tell Me How I Die out. In Torgo's thread, I linked the movies I watched to their IMDb page. If you ever need any more suggestions, I have a lot of them listed over there you can click on to read about or see who stars in the film :wave: