View Full Version : Shows Laff TV should get in the future?


Steve Winslow
07-25-2020, 01:50 AM
I was thinking about how Laff will change their schedule this fall, and that made me start thinking about shows that would be good on the channel. I think that "George Lopez" and "Everybody Loves raymond" would fit in good on their channel with their current shows like According to Jim, Home Improvement, and even Grace Under Fire and That 70's Show to some extent. It would also be nice if they would bring back "Roseanne." Also "8 Simple Rules", "Still Standing" and "Yes, Dear" could work. I feel that they should have a wider selection of shows, because I mean seriously, they play so much Home Improvement that they go through an entire season in three days (8 episodes a night.) This means that in less than two months, they have cycled through the entire series (obviously Laff isn't the only channel to overplay it's shows, as it's all too common nowadays.) Their most played show used to be Jim but they cut down on Jim only to play more Home Improvement. As much as I like Home Improvement, I'd say that 8 episodes a night is too much. The same can be said for Family Matters on TV One.

icecream
07-25-2020, 02:55 PM
I like that LAFF is good to Home Improvement airing so much of it. That is a nice change from previous syndicated channels Home Improvement didn't last long on. Everybody Loves Raymond still airs on TVLand in primetime, not needed on LAFF. Roseanne hasn't been missed. World's Funniest Videos needs to go away, 3rd Rock from the Sun would be a much better fit from their current shows in afternoons. George Lopez would fit good with According to Jim. Shows I would like to see them add are Boy Meets World, Mad About You, and top rated Canadian comedy Corner Gas. Corner Gas deserves to have a US audience again after WGN dropped it a long time ago.

Svenfan1234
07-25-2020, 03:51 PM
LAFF has so little variety (6 sitcoms only) it would be nice to see them get more shows for more variety. For example, I'd certainly like to see "Blossom" show up on LAFF one day, and this would make sense seeing as "Blossom" is owned by Disney who LAFF gets some shows from. "Boy Meets World" I agree would be nice to see, but I'm not sure if it truly fits LAFF's format, which seems to be about 90% risque sitcoms, and it may still be tied up in cable contracts, I don't know for sure. Now, on the realistic side, I think a show like "Malcolm in the Middle" would fit on to LAFF. Now, I don't like "Malcolm in the Middle" at all but I could definitely see it fitting. I would also love to see them take more advantage of Disney owning the Fox library since they get a lot of their shows from Disney. I also wouldn't mind seeing shows like "A Different World" or "Empty Nest" return.

MA
07-25-2020, 03:56 PM
I would like to see them add Dave's World and The John Larroquette Show.

Plater of Everything
07-25-2020, 04:20 PM
They need to bring back Empty Nest, Drew Carey, Grounded for Life, Ellen, and Spin City.

MA
07-25-2020, 04:24 PM
The Cosby Show would also be a good fit for LAFF as well.

Plater of Everything
07-25-2020, 05:50 PM
The Cosby Show would also be a good fit for LAFF as well.

That show used to air on Bounce I believe. But they got rid of it because of what Cosby did.

MA
07-25-2020, 05:59 PM
That show used to air on Bounce I believe. But they got rid of it because of what Cosby did.

How long was it on Bounce for?

Plater of Everything
07-25-2020, 07:07 PM
How long was it on Bounce for?
January 2015 to July 7, 2015. Then it was put back in December 2016 until April 26, 2018, the day he was convicted.

icecream
07-25-2020, 08:09 PM
The rights to Mad About You have been acquired by another diginet, or should I say, reacquirred, hint, hint.Excellent! The last time Mad About You aired on Antenna TV was before I had an affiliate. And now they can pair it with Paul Reiser's other show My Two Dads.

icecream
07-25-2020, 08:11 PM
Cheers would be a great fit with Night Court. Too bad Me TV is still holding on to the rights despite it never airing on their schedule.

MA
07-25-2020, 08:13 PM
January 2015 to July 7, 2015. Then it was put back in December 2016 until April 26, 2018, the day he was convicted.

Thank you.

Plater of Everything
07-25-2020, 08:27 PM
Thank you.

You're welcome

Plater of Everything
07-25-2020, 08:28 PM
Excellent! The last time Mad About You aired on Antenna TV was before I had an affiliate. And now they can pair it with Paul Reiser's other show My Two Dads.

My Two Dads is gone

MA
07-25-2020, 08:39 PM
My Two Dads is gone

When did My Two Dads get removed?

Steve Winslow
07-25-2020, 11:18 PM
I like that LAFF is good to Home Improvement airing so much of it. That is a nice change from previous syndicated channels Home Improvement didn't last long on. Everybody Loves Raymond still airs on TVLand in primetime, not needed on LAFF. Roseanne hasn't been missed. World's Funniest Videos needs to go away, 3rd Rock from the Sun would be a much better fit from their current shows in afternoons. George Lopez would fit good with According to Jim. Shows I would like to see them add are Boy Meets World, Mad About You, and top rated Canadian comedy Corner Gas. Corner Gas deserves to have a US audience again after WGN dropped it a long time ago.

I feel that Boy Meets World would fit in better on antenna tv than it would on Laff. Maybe it's just me but I just think it wouldn't fit as good with their current shows, and would be a better fit for the more family friendly shows on Antenna TV. It would fit in good with Growing Pains, Family Ties, Head of the Class etc than it would on Laff. I could see it fitting in with Home Improvement to some extent and even That 70's Show (since they're both about teenagers) but other than that na.

Steve Winslow
07-25-2020, 11:21 PM
LAFF has so little variety (6 sitcoms only) it would be nice to see them get more shows for more variety. For example, I'd certainly like to see "Blossom" show up on LAFF one day, and this would make sense seeing as "Blossom" is owned by Disney who LAFF gets some shows from. "Boy Meets World" I agree would be nice to see, but I'm not sure if it truly fits LAFF's format, which seems to be about 90% risque sitcoms, and it may still be tied up in cable contracts, I don't know for sure. Now, on the realistic side, I think a show like "Malcolm in the Middle" would fit on to LAFF. Now, I don't like "Malcolm in the Middle" at all but I could definitely see it fitting. I would also love to see them take more advantage of Disney owning the Fox library since they get a lot of their shows from Disney. I also wouldn't mind seeing shows like "A Different World" or "Empty Nest" return.

Blossom also would fit in better on antenna TV in my opinion.

Steve Winslow
07-25-2020, 11:27 PM
The Cosby Show would also be a good fit for LAFF as well.

I could also see this working. I didn't mention it in my original post even though I thought of it since it doesn't really fit in with their current shows, but for some reason I could see this one working on their channel even though it is more family/kid oriented than their other shows.

favoriteshow
07-25-2020, 11:38 PM
Laff has very little programming, and has seemed irrelevant for too long now. Unlike Antenna, MeTV, Cozi and GetTV, etc. the shows on Laff weren't even classic or very popular shows when they originally aired, with possible exception of the Home Improvement, but that series is far too overplayed there like every show scheduled on Laff.

I'd be fine if the channel shut down and Katz focused on Grit and Bounce, and Home Improvement and Night Court reruns moved to another digitnet like MeTV and Decades. Among Katz' digitnets, Grit is stronger even though it has weaker clearances and less availability on cable systems.

But if Laff were to continue, it needs more programming.

I think Love Boat (which airs on MeTV) could switch over from MeTV to Laff, since MeTV just airs a single episode on the weekend. That show spanned 10 seasons so can fill some block time well.

Cheers would be a good choice also.

Kate & Allie hasn't been seen anywhere but last seen on Retro TV about a decade or maybe almost 15 years ago now. Mr. Belvedere, Too Close for Comfort and Small Wonder also might work.

One problem is a lot of these series are old, and I'm not sure what newer content is available.

I think AFV could take a big block of prime-time schedule. It'd be anyways filler programming but that show has spanned decades. I think Pluto TV already has an AFV channel, so Laff could run a lot of AFV for the over the air viewers. It'd make more sense running multiple hours of this show than over-running Home Improvement in a given day, but I like the idea of some of the shows mentioned above moving over to Laff.

I'm not sure if Laff would take on The Cosby Show, as it was dropped by Bounce after Cosby was sentenced, and both channels are co-owned.

Plater of Everything
07-25-2020, 11:58 PM
Laff mainly focuses on shows from after the mid-80s, and that are for more mature audiences. Home Improvement would fit better on Antenna TV in my opinion.

icecream
07-26-2020, 12:43 AM
My Two Dads is goneI know My Two Dads is on hiatus, hopefully it will return when the fall schedule premieres.

icecream
07-26-2020, 12:44 AM
Laff mainly focuses on shows from after the mid-80s, and that are for more mature audiences. Home Improvement would fit better on Antenna TV in my opinion.Home Improvement is doing just fine on LAFF, almost certainly their highest rated show with the favorable slots they give it.

icecream
07-26-2020, 12:56 AM
[QUOTE=favoriteshow;5771346]Laff has very little programming, and has seemed irrelevant for too long now. Unlike Antenna, MeTV, Cozi and GetTV, etc. the shows on Laff weren't even classic or very popular shows when they originally aired, with possible exception of the Home Improvement, but that series is far too overplayed there like every show scheduled on Laff.

I'd be fine if the channel shut down and Katz focused on Grit and Bounce, and Home Improvement and Night Court reruns moved to another digitnet like MeTV and Decades. Among Katz' digitnets, Grit is stronger even though it has weaker clearances and less availability on cable systems.

I couldn't disagree more. Grit is totally useless to me and Bounce isn't worth much. Home Improvement and Night Court are fine on LAFF, plus I sometimes watch According to Jim. LAFF should not be shut down nor will it be. I don't have GetTV but when I have seen the schedule it has looked like a worthless channel as well. What they need to besides acquiring more sitcoms (not dumb reality like America's Funniest Home Videos), is removing World's Funniest Videos from weekday afternoons and bringing 3rd Rock from the Sun back there. MeTV and Decades have good shows on their lineups but are sadly not available for me, I would gladly trade the aforementioned Bounce and Grit for them.

icecream
07-26-2020, 01:02 AM
And Night Court was very popular when it originally aired, was part of NBC's dominant Thursday lineup that started their Must See TV era. If Me TV ever relinquishes the Cheers rights, LAFF should snatch it up. Cheers could air at 2PM after Night Court then for a very compatible block.

MA
07-26-2020, 07:04 AM
The problem with Dave's World and The John Larroquette Show though is that I'm not even sure who has the rights or not.

Plater of Everything
07-26-2020, 10:21 AM
Home Improvement is doing just fine on LAFF, almost certainly their highest rated show with the favorable slots they give it.

Yes I know that, it's just my opinion that a family show like Home Improvement doesn't really fit in with shows like Night Court or 3rd Rock. That's just my opinion, and if the show gets Laff more viewers, I can certainly see why they air it.

favoriteshow
07-29-2020, 10:04 AM
I couldn't disagree more. Grit is totally useless to me and Bounce isn't worth much. Home Improvement and Night Court are fine on LAFF, plus I sometimes watch According to Jim. LAFF should not be shut down nor will it be. I don't have GetTV but when I have seen the schedule it has looked like a worthless channel as well. What they need to besides acquiring more sitcoms (not dumb reality like America's Funniest Home Videos), is removing World's Funniest Videos from weekday afternoons and bringing 3rd Rock from the Sun back there. MeTV and Decades have good shows on their lineups but are sadly not available for me, I would gladly trade the aforementioned Bounce and Grit for them.

Both Grit and Bounce ranked higher in viewers than Laff:
https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/network-ratings-top-channels-fox-news-espn-cnn-cbs-nbc-abc-1203440870/

Meanwhile Laff is on many ABC owned stations (very good clearance - WABC TV, WPVI TV, etc.) yet can't break above Grit.

So far, it seems Katz hasn't been operating Laff very well. If Katz can perform a full turnaround that'd be great, but it seems to have lost interest in investing in Laff.

Svenfan1234
07-29-2020, 12:20 PM
Both Grit and Bounce ranked higher in viewers than Laff:
https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/network-ratings-top-channels-fox-news-espn-cnn-cbs-nbc-abc-1203440870/

Meanwhile Laff is on many ABC owned stations (very good clearance - WABC TV, WPVI TV, etc.) yet can't break above Grit.

So far, it seems Katz hasn't been operating Laff very well. If Katz can perform a full turnaround that'd be great, but it seems to have lost interest in investing in Laff.

Wow. I wonder if they're just waiting until the agreements for their current shows expire before they become a 24-hour comedy movie network. I could definitely see that happening. The fact that Bounce and Grit rank better isn't terribly surprising to me.

MA
07-29-2020, 12:57 PM
Wow. I wonder if they're just waiting until the agreements for their current shows expire before they become a 24-hour comedy movie network. I could definitely see that happening. The fact that Bounce and Grit rank better isn't terribly surprising to me.

I won’t be surprised if that does eventually happen.

Svenfan1234
07-29-2020, 02:07 PM
I won’t be surprised if that does eventually happen.

It seems like LAFF started out wanting to emulate the comedy networks that are on cable -- obviously with the 6-8 hour block formats, the more risque shows than you would find on Antenna TV or Me-TV. But they started out with more rare shows like Empty Nest and The Drew Carey Show that you would not find on any other TV channel around 2015. Now, all -- I repeat, all -- of their shows can be found on DVD and streaming. And I know not everyone can afford these shows on DVD (some are insanely budget priced though that air on LAFF). But I think the honeymoon period's over, so to speak for LAFF, since I think a good chunk of their initial audience wanted those rare shows like Empty Nest and Drew Carey that weren't readily available. I wouldn't be surprised if their ratings were much larger when they debuted than now in 2020.

icecream
07-29-2020, 03:15 PM
The Drew Carey Show sucks, one of the worst long-running shows from the 90s. And streaming is so overhyped, many people still prefer to watch TV the traditional way on an actual TV station.

TSMIV
07-29-2020, 05:16 PM
I would gladly trade Laff for MeTV.

Svenfan1234
07-29-2020, 05:27 PM
The Drew Carey Show sucks, one of the worst long-running shows from the 90s. And streaming is so overhyped, many people still prefer to watch TV the traditional way on an actual TV station.

Idk, many people stream shows now instead of watching it live. The article from Variety said that Laff was only getting around 220,000 viewers regularly (much less than Bounce and Grit) and Laff seems to be pretty much on autopilot now. You may think The Drew Carey Show sucks, and I am not a fan of it either, but it was certainly popular for Laff to pick up the rights to. Now if Laff would add more shows, it would be a different story, they only have 6 shows right now. They have more shows that they did air than they do air and they have only been on the air five years.

opus
07-29-2020, 08:14 PM
I would gladly trade Laff for MeTV.

I accept your offer. How you wanna do this?

Greenbeans
07-30-2020, 04:19 AM
The Drew Carey Show sucks, one of the worst long-running shows from the 90s. And streaming is so overhyped, many people still prefer to watch TV the traditional way on an actual TV station.

Why would someone prefer to watch traditional tv with commercials, when they can stream a show, pick what episode they want to watch, and skip commercials?

Getting away from St. Jude and law suit commercials make the 12 bucks I pay a month to stream Hulu/Netflix worth it. If you get a Roku, you can stream just about every show on Antenna tv for free.

Charley Knox
07-30-2020, 10:37 AM
Why would someone prefer to watch traditional tv with commercials, when they can stream a show, pick what episode they want to watch, and skip commercials?

Getting away from St. Jude and law suit commercials make the 12 bucks I pay a month to stream Hulu/Netflix worth it. If you get a Roku, you can stream just about every show on Antenna tv for free.

Under one service like Hulu or Netflix and just a couple bucks a month, it was easier to stream your favorite sitcom. Now, with multiple streaming services and funds limited, it becomes a chore that also puts a strain on the old wallet.

Plus, it's just easier to turn on the set after a hard day and mute the obnoxious commercials. Also, with censorship becoming worse, it is smarter to use that money and start a DVD collection. It is only going to get worse. Already, you will never be able to watch shows like The Dukes of Hazard or The Rebel on broadcast or streaming ever again.
If
Eventually, shows like The Beverly Hillbillies and movies like Gone With The Wind will be met with the new age ban hammer.

favoriteshow
07-31-2020, 03:33 PM
Why would someone prefer to watch traditional tv with commercials, when they can stream a show, pick what episode they want to watch, and skip commercials?

Getting away from St. Jude and law suit commercials make the 12 bucks I pay a month to stream Hulu/Netflix worth it. If you get a Roku, you can stream just about every show on Antenna tv for free.

I know I'm a minority, but I have Hulu Plus without ads and in it's library, there are classics like I Love Lucy and Mary Tyler Moore. However, I never use my Hulu subscription to watch those shows, but actually enjoy watching I Love Lucy at 9am on Decades, and sometimes tune into MTM in the afternoon with Decades. It's nice as background and I like the Decades daytime lineup. So, I actually agree that linear can be enjoyable and it showscases content I'd otherwise pass over. But I guess it depends on the show. I don't think I'd like watching a show like Scandal with commercials on Bounce when I can watch on Hulu. That is a show that I binge-watched but would be odd tuning to a random episode on Bounce now.

That being said, I think Weigel is smart and they have some exclusives on Decades, MeTV and Heroes. For example, it has Petticoat Junction and airs multiple seasons of it. As far as I know, Petticoat Junction streaming is limited to only Season one.

I've noticed some services like Philly BTV not having the rights for MeTV and Decades. I suspect that there is a retransmission cost for these over the air networks owned by Weigel. Some providers like Verizon Fios decide to pass on Decades, and Philly BTV which is free won't carry it unless it becomes a paid service. But in exchange, Weigel runs its digit nets with better content since it's paying more for content.

Laff seems like its on auto-pilot and selection is somewhat lackluster. Maybe it'd be better if it added movies (comedies) to its schedule and limited sitcoms to just the weekday morning/early afternoon. I think it used to air movies but they disappeared.

MA
07-31-2020, 03:37 PM
I know I'm a minority, but I have Hulu Plus without ads and in it's library, there are classics like I Love Lucy and Mary Tyler Moore. However, I never use my Hulu subscription to watch those shows, but actually enjoy watching I Love Lucy at 9am on Decades, and sometimes tune into MTM in the afternoon with Decades. It's nice as background and I like the Decades daytime lineup. So, I actually agree that linear can be better than streaming but I guess it depends on the show. I don't think I'd like watching a show like Scandal with commercials on Bounce when I can watch on Hulu. That is a show that I binge-watched but would be odd tuning to a random episode on Bounce now.

That being said, I think Weigel is smart and they have some exclusives on Decades, MeTV and Heroes. For example, it has Petticoat Junction and airs multiple seasons of it. As far as I know, Petticoat Junction streaming is only available via Season one.

I've noticed some services like Philly BTV not having the rights for MeTV and Decades. I suspect that there is a retransmission cost for these over the air networks owned by Weigel. Some providers like Verizon Fios decide to pass, and Philly BTV which is free won't carry it unless it becomes a paid service. But in exchange, Weigel runs its digit nets with better content since it's paying more for content.

Laff seems like auto-pilot. Maybe it'd be better if it added movies to its schedule and limited sitcoms to just the weekday morning/early afternoon. I think it used to air movies but they disappeared.

Laff still shows movies, but they tend to show the same ones over and over again.

MA
07-31-2020, 06:38 PM
Laff is getting a new show starting September 6th, and a thread about it will be coming.

icecream
07-31-2020, 06:52 PM
What a lousy addition. 4 hours of Home Improvement is better than 4 minutes of this awful show (announced on their Facebook page). Hopefully it will just replace World's Funniest Videos which no one would miss, and not get Night Court removed.

MA
07-31-2020, 07:06 PM
What a lousy addition. 4 hours of Home Improvement is better than 4 minutes of this awful show (announced on their Facebook page). Hopefully it will just replace World's Funniest Videos which no one would miss, and not get Night Court removed.

World's Funniest Videos would be nice to see removed.