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cfr1970
06-13-2020, 11:34 PM
I finally started watching the Reba dvds that came a couple of weeks ago and finished the first 4 episodes and really enjoy it...there's so many LOL moments but...this show is so short!!!

Just when i'm getting into the episode it's over lol. I checked the time counter with the remote and it clocked in at 20 minutes....21 while the credits rolled! That's unusually short for a sitcom...are these unedited episodes? :confused::confused:

Lorimar Television
06-13-2020, 11:57 PM
Hahaha nope any show after 1998 is around 21 mins! You’re used to pre 90s shows that are 24 mins!

cfr1970
06-14-2020, 12:32 AM
Hahaha nope any show after 1998 is around 21 mins! You’re used to pre 90s shows that are 24 mins!

I figured i'd only have time for a couple of episodes this evening and wound up watching FOUR because they were so short lol. I guess it'll make me run through the series all the more quickly now.

Perhaps the shorter time is a plus in a way because all the episodes I watched were tight and no "laggy" parts so they make the most of those 21 minutes. I haven't seen this show in over 10 years and it's nice to revisit it.

One spoiler you can share...I thought Barbara Jean was Reba's neighbor and lived next door? Does that come later or did I dream that?! I love how Reba deals with her like a happy little puppy that won't go away. :lol:

And the jokes are funny!....When Barbara Jean tries to tell Reba that "BJ is short for--" Reba cuts her off and says insultingly "I know what BJ is short for"----MEOW!!! :brent

I remember loving that love/hate relationship they had with each other. :lol:

Lorimar Television
06-14-2020, 01:25 AM
Haha yep it def helps tighten the pace. You’re correct BJ does move closer but not yet ;)

Haha yep BJ was quite the nickname. Wait til Lori Ann (Rebas friend recurring through early seasons) meets her! :lol:

cfr1970
06-14-2020, 02:11 AM
Haha yep it def helps tighten the pace. You’re correct BJ does move closer but not yet ;)

Haha yep BJ was quite the nickname. Wait til Lori Ann (Rebas friend recurring through early seasons) meets her! :lol:

It's been no long I forgot who Lori Ann is and even when I watched it when it was on syndication, i'm sure I didn't catch the whole series, just a few episodes here and there at dinnertime. This had to be around the 2008-2010 years...ancient history I know. :lol:

Oh and it was nice to see Nell Carter playing the counselor!! She pretty much looked the same from her GAB days! I've got so much dvd's to watch so i'm going to squeeze Reba in every Saturday night with 4 episodes and should take me about 7 months to complete. :crazy:

Lorimar Television
06-14-2020, 07:51 PM
Haha awesome! Yes it was nice to see Nell. She was actually going to appear again in mid season two but passed away before she could.

cfr1970
06-21-2020, 09:44 PM
I'm half through season 1 now and just finished episode 12. I don't think I like Lori Ann---she seems to be a mean, bitter bitch lol. But I do like Park Overall from her Empty Nest days as Laverne, so I won't hate her too much....but that Lori Ann is something...so bitter and angry! :angryfire

And nice to see Dorothy Lyman from Mama's Family playing Reba's mother...but I see she was only 8 years older than Reba in real life! I guess she used the same makeup artist Vicki Lawrence used on Mama's Family to age her. :lol:

Lorimar Television
06-21-2020, 09:52 PM
Aw I like Lori Ann. Well she’s only in S1 and one Ep of s2 like a certain needlebutt so you won’t put up with her too long. I kinda like her she puts cheating Brock in his place. Haha yep I agree Dorothy prob got the old lady treatment mama did.

cfr1970
06-21-2020, 10:32 PM
Aw I like Lori Ann. Well she’s only in S1 and one Ep of s2 like a certain needlebutt so you won’t put up with her too long. I kinda like her she puts cheating Brock in his place. Haha yep I agree Dorothy prob got the old lady treatment mama did.

Maybe i'll warm up to her as the season goes on. In the first 2 episodes i've seen her, she comes off like a man hater and proud of how she took her ex husbands to the cleaners when she divorced them. I like the actress though. :)

My favorite are the scenes with Barbara Jean and Reba together. Barbara Jean steals the scenes she's in and it's fun to watch...and OMG she had the nerve to ask Reba to be her Matron of Honor lol...and then calls Reba's mother Mom to boot. What nerve!

I know she's supposed to be so dense and naive that she's doing it all innocently, but calling Reba's mother Mom doesn't even make sense since even after marrying Brock, there's still no family relation with Reba's mother lol.

I wonder if they got rid of Lori Ann in season 2 to focus more on Reba & BJ?...I hope so because I think they're the best part of the show. :lol::wave:

Lorimar Television
06-21-2020, 11:01 PM
Yes they did! BJ and Rebas relationship really blooms starting in s2 and gets tighter as the show goes on.

cfr1970
06-21-2020, 11:09 PM
Yes they did! BJ and Rebas relationship really blooms starting in s2 and gets tighter as the show goes on.

That's great to know and i'm looking forward to it. They're so much fun together! :crazy::wave:

Lorimar Television
06-21-2020, 11:36 PM
That's great to know and i'm looking forward to it. They're so much fun together! :crazy::wave:

Yes they’re like a Lucy and Ethel!

Btw mama didn’t actually get any age make up, they just put a wig and some glasses on her!

cfr1970
06-28-2020, 12:02 PM
Yes they’re like a Lucy and Ethel!

Btw mama didn’t actually get any age make up, they just put a wig and some glasses on her!

I watched the wedding episode and couldn't believe the gall of BJ in this episode. I get that she's this naive innocent buffoon, but to want Reba at her wedding to her husband she just got divorced from after 20 years is really asking too much!

She has the audacity to come to her home in her wedding dress too and again asks Reba to come to the wedding. How sick is that?! I was hoping Reba would've punched her lights out! :lol:

And she tells Reba's kids to call her "Mama BJ"---this is all way too much!! What kind of woman IS this?!....She's the person who took this woman's husband away and expects her to be her best friend and her children to call her "Mama"....it's so twisted.

And when BJ wanted Reba's blessing for the wedding (again, too much!) she not once apologized for any pain she inflicted onto Reba and her family. Had she done that I could've accepted her better. But she's so dense she doesn't even see Reba's pain. I would've liked a scene where she told Reba that she knows the pain she caused and asked forgiveness and to be friends.

That would've been realistic and made BJ more human rather than the idiotic buffoon she is. I still like the character, but they're not really making her human here---she's a bit too cartoonish. Hopefully she evolves more as the series progresses.

I still hate Lori Ann....she's too mean, angry and bitter and i'm glad she's gone after this season. She was great as LaVerne in Empty Nest, but here, she's just hateful. :mad:

I loved the end scene in the episode where Reba dated the bad kisser. After Reba left saying she felt nothing from the kiss, in walks Julia Duffy to tell Peter Scolari that she "felt it"....that was really cute since their characters were married to each other on Newhart.

Instead of leaving after saying that, she should've kissed him instead! :lol:

Lorimar Television
06-28-2020, 08:07 PM
Yeah BJ def oversteps a lot but she does apologize eventually. I think in s3. BJ becomes a lot more normal by season 2 when they get a new show runner and they do away with her big hair and calling her BJ.

Lori Ann appears once in s2 as well but that’s it.

Haha that was a great moment reuniting Julia and Peter.

cfr1970
06-29-2020, 12:39 AM
Yeah BJ def oversteps a lot but she does apologize eventually. I think in s3. BJ becomes a lot more normal by season 2 when they get a new show runner and they do away with her big hair and calling her BJ.

Lori Ann appears once in s2 as well but that’s it.

Haha that was a great moment reuniting Julia and Peter.

I finished with season 1 tonight! :clap:

Finally both women popped out their babies. I think having 2 characters on a sitcom pregnant at the same time is a bit much and glad that's over with. :lol:

I'm looking forward to see how they all get on in season 2. All together they certainly make a unique family. I notice Reba is warming up more to Barbara Jean by seasons end---but she's a bigger person than me---in that situation I don't think i'd be able to do that!

I can't wait to see how that relationship evolves. :crazy::talk:

On to season 2.....:cheers::cheers::cheers:

Lorimar Television
06-30-2020, 02:02 AM
Congrats on finishing! Season 2 is great and brings lots of character development.

JO Sweet Heart
07-03-2020, 08:00 PM
To me, season two is when Reba's best singing performance is done.

God bless you and her always!!!

Holly

P.S. "So far away, doesn't anybody stay in one place anymore......."

cfr1970
07-05-2020, 11:34 AM
I watched the first 4 episodes of season 2.

The one where Reba called Barbara Jean a liar and then she comes over to Reba's house for an apology made me like her a little less.

I mean, this woman took Reba's husband away and tore apart her family and never once apologized for any of that, yet still expects Reba to be chummy friends with her, and has the audacity to demand an apology when Reba calls her a liar?

Where's Barbara Jean's apology for tearing Reba's family apart? Reba made quick comment about that when asked for the apology but it wasn't enough imo. I think to make Barbara Jean more acceptable, she needs to be the one to apologize for what she did----but she never does!! :eek:

And the second she's called a liar (which we found out to be true anyway!) she demands an apology from the woman who's family she ruined. Such gall! :lol:

JO Sweet Heart
07-05-2020, 02:03 PM
^^^ Maybe Barbra Jean's way of saying that she is sorry for her adulterous activity is her being there at all for Reba. She tries to help Reba in a big way during a season five episode after Reba is left high and dry by Cheyanne. In case you haven't seen it yet, I won't say anything more about it, but yeah, most people in Barbra Jean's position don't care about what their actions do to other people. They never try to clean up the mess that they make in whatever way that the mess can be cleaned up. At the end of the day, Barbra Jean was still a good person. She never treated her step children like dirt either like some step parents don't hesitate to. To me, Reba should've milked for all that it was worth every bit of good that Barbra Jean brought to the picture and actually in one season two episode, Reba did just that. When Reba comes home from work, and smells what's been made already for dinner, she says to Barbra Jean, "I thought I smelled reason to keep you!" :D :D :D

God bless you always!!!

Holly

cfr1970
07-05-2020, 04:13 PM
^^^ Maybe Barbra Jean's way of saying that she is sorry for her adulterous activity is her being there at all for Reba. She tries to help Reba in a big way during a season five episode after Reba is left high and dry by Cheyanne. In case you haven't seen it yet, I won't say anything more about it, but yeah, most people in Barbra Jean's position don't care about what their actions do to other people. They never try to clean up the mess that they make in whatever way that the mess can be cleaned up. At the end of the day, Barbra Jean was still a good person. She never treated her step children like dirt either like some step parents don't hesitate to. To me, Reba should've milked for all that it was worth every bit of good that Barbra Jean brought to the picture and actually in one season two episode, Reba did just that. When Reba comes home from work, and smells what's been made already for dinner, she says to Barbra Jean, "I thought I smelled reason to keep you!" :D :D :D

God bless you always!!!

Holly


I like Barbara Jean and agree she is a nice person but she's written as being so incredibly clueless to other people's feelings. When she wanted that apology from Reba for something so small as being called a liar (which she knew she was anyway lol) it didn't register in the slightest that perhaps she should be the one doing the apologies here.

I don't know why she's written this way---without one iota of guilt for what she caused. I guess she's really supposed to be THAT clueless and unaware of other people's feelings? And the fact that she's a big Christian only makes her character all the more ironic. Wouldn't a Christian ask for forgiveness from those they wronged?

I do like how they're slowly becoming friends and i'm looking forward to seeing how their relationship evolves, but I think the writers made a big mistake not at least tossing in one scene where Barbara Jean lets Reba know that she's sorry for any pain she caused by being part of her marriage breakup. I would've liked to see that.

Thanks for not giving away any spoilers! I made the mistake of looking at the show's Wikipedia page and my eye quickly caught the words "Cheyenne's alcoholism" and I quickly closed the page lol. But the damage was done when I saw those 2 words and I hate when that happens!! ....Now until I reach that part of the series, i'm going to be wondering how the heck Cheyenne turns to the bottle!

It's so hard to watch old shows and stay completely spoil free! :lol:

JO Sweet Heart
07-06-2020, 11:34 AM
^^^ Now that you brought her up, to me, if anyone was in sheer and severe need of a good slap in the face, it was Cheyanne. What takes place at the end of season two was all her fault and her selfishness actually made me glad that Brock went to Barbra Jean because his doing so only gave Kyra somewhere else to go...until a certain episode in season three takes place. Kyra in my opinion, should've packed her things and found a way to cut all ties from the whole family as soon as possible completely if that is what it took to get away from all of their drama.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. You mention Cheyanne's turning to the bottle. Yeah, Cheyanne had a reason to be concerned about her future with Van, but thanks to Reba, how much did Cheyanne really actually have to worry about when Reba is the one who kept a roof over the family's head for the time being?

Lorimar Television
07-07-2020, 11:03 PM
^^^ Now that you brought her up, to me, if anyone was in sheer and severe need of a good slap in the face, it was Cheyanne. What takes place at the end of season two was all her fault and her selfishness actually made me glad that Brock went to Barbra Jean because his doing so only gave Kyra somewhere else to go...until a certain episode in season three takes place. Kyra in my opinion, should've packed her things and found a way to cut all ties from the whole family as soon as possible completely if that is what it took to get away from all of their drama.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. You mention Cheyanne's turning to the bottle. Yeah, Cheyanne had a reason to be concerned about her future with Van, but thanks to Reba, how much did Cheyanne really actually have to worry about when Reba is the one who kept a roof over the family's head for the time being?
People act like Cheyenne did that on purpose, it was an innocent mistake and the worst thing she ever does, but she still gets threads calling her a brat when that was her biggest mistake in the shows history.

Lorimar Television
07-07-2020, 11:19 PM
Any comments on eps 3 and 4? They're some of my fav eps

JO Sweet Heart
07-08-2020, 04:59 PM
People act like Cheyenne did that on purpose, it was an innocent mistake and the worst thing she ever does, but she still gets threads calling her a brat when that was her biggest mistake in the shows history.
To me, there wasn't anything innocent about any of the moves that Cheyanne was guilty of making and every time that she made one, she pretty much got away with it at Kyra's expense. Even when the show ended, I still had yet to see any growth and maturity. If anything, Cheyanne was only more obnoxious and self centered during the show's final season.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

Lorimar Television
07-08-2020, 06:28 PM
To me, there wasn't anything innocent about any of the moves that Cheyanne was guilty of making and every time that she made one, she pretty much got away with it at Kyra's expense. Even when the show ended, I still had yet to see any growth and maturity. If anything, Cheyanne was only more obnoxious and self centered during the show's final season.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

Well i dont wanna give away any spoilers to cfr but i highly disagree

cfr1970
07-08-2020, 09:18 PM
Any comments on eps 3 and 4? They're some of my fav eps

I watched those on Saturday and yeah, I liked those episodes too. Though I didn't like how Van & Cheyenne were so happy to go on food stamps and live like bums off the system lol. Cheyenne was a bit too happy about it! :eek:

And Reba losing the job because she parked in the handicapped spot to the dismay of her potential boss in the wheelchair was funny. I didn't see that coming when he wheeled himself from behind the desk. :lol:

And the next episode where she worked for Brock was good too. Though i'm glad that was only temporary and she got herself another job quickly. Barbara Jean telling Reba about their sex life (or lack of) when the pretty patient arrived and she was jealous was funny.

This woman keeps forgetting who she's talking to with Reba. I can't believe she's that dense! But it's all funny though. :lol:

I also liked "Mommy Nearest" where Reba was jealous and uncomfortable when Jake called Barbara Jean "Mommy". :eek:

The last episode I watched was "Switch" where Reba went speed dating and that hateful Lori Ann was in it lol. You said she only appears once so I won't be seeing her bitter face anymore?

I'd like her if she were friendlier...but she's just so angry and mean. I could see why they dropped the character...they should've written her to be more pleasant than she was.

I'm enjoying this season a lot and the characters are developing nicely. Though I notice that Kyra seems a lot like a Darlene clone from Roseanne with her dark sarcasm. I hated Darlene but at least Kyra doesn't say her lines in a robotic monotone like Sara Gilbert did. :lol:

I haven't been spoiled in this thread. I spoiled myself by peeking at the Wikipedia page and saw the words "Cheyenne's Alcoholism" but quickly clicked to close the page right after seeing it. That was all my fault for going to the page. I have to control myself when watching old shows i've never seen.

Although I know I saw this series when it played in syndication 10 years ago...I just forgot so much of it that it's new to me like FOL was when I went through it.

I'll watch the next 8 episodes this weekend. What I do is play 4 episodes Saturday night and 4 on Sunday night. That should make it last a few months before finishing. :crazy::wave:

Lorimar Television
07-08-2020, 10:08 PM
HAHA ik the food stamps stuff was crazy!

Yes that was a good reveal!

Fun fact: that pretty patient was Brock's wife irl.

Yes that was Lori Ann's final ep! Switch happens to be a fav ep of mine.

Yes Kyra is def similar to Darlene!

Glad you weren't spoiled! Definitely keep away from wikipedia

cfr1970
07-12-2020, 12:46 AM
Watched 3 episodes tonight. I like to do 4 episodes Sat. & Sun. but the episode titled "Ring a Ding" went like 50 minutes long and then I went to the Wikipedia episode page and see they count that as 2 episodes (#9 & #10 for the season). I guess it played as an hour special episode when it originally ran.

I liked it and remembered bits & pieces of it from when seeing it back in syndication. I don't like how weird Van kept acting with the new boyfriend and glad when he stopped. It was all just strange acting lol.

I don't want spoilers, but I will say that I hope Reba and that guy (I forgot his name) stay together. They seem good for each other but something tells me it isn't going to work out and they'll make Reba keep dating other people. Please don't tell me what happens with them!!! :nonono::nonono::nonono:

I also liked how they finally softened up Kyra a little bit and made her a little less like an Evil Darlene sociopath from Roseanne. When she bonded with Barbara Jean after the reunion with her nasty sister, it was a nice moment between the two. I like Kyra when she acts human and not such a sarcastic, bitter bitch. One Darlene on television was more than enough. :lol:

The next episode was a Christmas one "Cookies for Santa" and while I liked it, the ending was hokey making us believe the bike was really from Santa. I guess if it were Christmas and I watched it, i'd see it differently lol. But tonight I just rolled my eyes. :rolleyes:

It was nice though how the whole family managed to be together in the end for Christmas Eve. And I laughed when Barbara Jean exclaimed all excited that she can borrow Reba's nightie since she's staying over because of the storm. :lol:

Then was "A Moment in Time" when they all made a video for the baby. At first I thought it was going to be like the awful episode that Roseanne did for her baby, but this was done so much better with everyone wanting to know what the other said to the baby in the video.

I liked when Reba FF Barbara Jean's singing of Wind Beneath My Wings. That was funny. And I also liked the end where we saw Kyra again act human without the sarcasm.

So far i'm liking season 2 more than the first season. I think the characters are all more well developed and that mean Lori Ann is gone. :lol:

Tomorrow i'll watch 4 more---The next one is titled "The Vasectomy" and i'm wondering which guy is gonna get snipped....Van or Brock?....My bet is on Brock. :lol::crazy:

cfr1970
07-12-2020, 12:50 AM
HAHA ik the food stamps stuff was crazy!

Yes that was a good reveal!

Fun fact: that pretty patient was Brock's wife irl.

Yes that was Lori Ann's final ep! Switch happens to be a fav ep of mine.

Yes Kyra is def similar to Darlene!

Glad you weren't spoiled! Definitely keep away from wikipedia

I now only go to the list of episodes page on Wikipedia. They only show the titles and air dates of each episode without any description of what it's about. I like that because it makes it less easy to get spoiled.

I saw Brock on an episode of The Nanny last week. He looked much younger and I kept saying to myself he looks so familiar lol. I couldn't place him because he was thin and had bleach blond hair. :lol:

Lorimar Television
07-12-2020, 03:09 AM
Watched 3 episodes tonight. I like to do 4 episodes Sat. & Sun. but the episode titled "Ring a Ding" went like 50 minutes long and then I went to the Wikipedia episode page and see they count that as 2 episodes (#9 & #10 for the season). I guess it played as an hour special episode when it originally ran.

I liked it and remembered bits & pieces of it from when seeing it back in syndication. I don't like how weird Van kept acting with the new boyfriend and glad when he stopped. It was all just strange acting lol.

I don't want spoilers, but I will say that I hope Reba and that guy (I forgot his name) stay together. They seem good for each other but something tells me it isn't going to work out and they'll make Reba keep dating other people. Please don't tell me what happens with them!!! :nonono::nonono::nonono:

I also liked how they finally softened up Kyra a little bit and made her a little less like an Evil Darlene sociopath from Roseanne. When she bonded with Barbara Jean after the reunion with her nasty sister, it was a nice moment between the two. I like Kyra when she acts human and not such a sarcastic, bitter bitch. One Darlene on television was more than enough. :lol:

The next episode was a Christmas one "Cookies for Santa" and while I liked it, the ending was hokey making us believe the bike was really from Santa. I guess if it were Christmas and I watched it, i'd see it differently lol. But tonight I just rolled my eyes. :rolleyes:

It was nice though how the whole family managed to be together in the end for Christmas Eve. And I laughed when Barbara Jean exclaimed all excited that she can borrow Reba's nightie since she's staying over because of the storm. :lol:

Then was "A Moment in Time" when they all made a video for the baby. At first I thought it was going to be like the awful episode that Roseanne did for her baby, but this was done so much better with everyone wanting to know what the other said to the baby in the video.

I liked when Reba FF Barbara Jean's singing of Wind Beneath My Wings. That was funny. And I also liked the end where we saw Kyra again act human without the sarcasm.

So far i'm liking season 2 more than the first season. I think the characters are all more well developed and that mean Lori Ann is gone. :lol:

Tomorrow i'll watch 4 more---The next one is titled "The Vasectomy" and i'm wondering which guy is gonna get snipped....Van or Brock?....My bet is on Brock. :lol::crazy:

You're correct that was originally an hour ep. Just to warn you the season 3 premiere is also an hour long ep, so plan accordingly.

Yes it was sweet seeing Kyra bond with BJ.

Haha yes a little hokey but cute.

Yes AMIT is a great ep! So many funny moments. BJ flapping her wings as it FF was hilarious.

Yep season 2 is when the show runner left so they hired some new writers and they work hard to develop the chars more.

Lorimar Television
07-12-2020, 03:10 AM
I now only go to the list of episodes page on Wikipedia. They only show the titles and air dates of each episode without any description of what it's about. I like that because it makes it less easy to get spoiled.

I saw Brock on an episode of The Nanny last week. He looked much younger and I kept saying to myself he looks so familiar lol. I couldn't place him because he was thin and had bleach blond hair. :lol:

:lol: I remember that ep! Fran thought he was gay LOL

cfr1970
07-12-2020, 04:40 PM
You're correct that was originally an hour ep. Just to warn you the season 3 premiere is also an hour long ep, so plan accordingly.

Yes it was sweet seeing Kyra bond with BJ.

Haha yes a little hokey but cute.

Yes AMIT is a great ep! So many funny moments. BJ flapping her wings as it FF was hilarious.

Yep season 2 is when the show runner left so they hired some new writers and they work hard to develop the chars more.

I watched "Vasectomy" today and liked it. I figured it would be Brock since he has so many kids lol. But I wasn't expecting to find out he already had it when BJ was pregnant! That was a shock. :eek:

I understood why BJ was upset that he didn't tell her, but Reba getting angry was kinda weird. They were already separated and this was after BJ was pregnant so it really had nothing to do with Reba anymore.

And at her age (i'm assuming mid 40's) I doubt she'd wanted to have more kids anyway (or even if she could safely at her age). So her throwing a fit was a bit weird. But I guess she needed to have the fit in order to realize she was wrong for trying to make baby decisions for Cheyenne earlier.

I see the other thread title called "Anyone else hate Cheyenne?" and i'm dying to go in there and read it lol. I do like Cheyenne, but can see she's kind of flaky and a bit selfish and that can get annoying at times. I'm wondering now if she gets worse as the series progresses.

But when i'm done with the whole series i'm jumping in that thread to find out why she's hated! :lol:

Will watch 4 episodes tonight and then will have 8 left of the season---so will finish it up next weekend and then onto season 3. :wave:

cfr1970
07-12-2020, 09:52 PM
Watched "The Rings", "Seeing Red", and "Terry Holliway".

"The Rings" was good and I like that Cheyenne loved her tiny diamond ring from Van. I never understood why women want expensive big diamond rings. Like she told him, it's special just because it came from him. Awww. :heart:

In the next one, BJ in the red wig and setting off Reba was hilarious!! Loved it! :lol:

And the next was a very bittersweet one where we learn some of Reba & Brock's history, and I loved Reba singing "So Far Away" at the end. I think this is one of my favorite episodes of the whole series now. :bighug:

This season keeps getting better with each episode. :wave:

cfr1970
07-12-2020, 10:33 PM
Watched "Valentines Day" and it looks like Reba blew it with the boyfriend when she took back saying she loved him. He walks out the door and she says "Do leave upset" and he says "I'll leave happy"....and he's gone.

Ok you can spoil me now...is that the last we see of him? I hope not because I like them together. Will have to wait till next weekend to see the next 8 episodes and finish season 2. So far it's all good! :thumbsup:

Lorimar Television
07-12-2020, 10:54 PM
Cheyenne is not hated haha only one other poster agreed and they’re pretty vocal while the op had been banned. It’s also my fault for bumping this very old thread cuz I wanted to continue discussion away from here without spoiling eps for you. Her only really bad Ep is in the s2 finale and she’s constantly berated for this one Ep for some reason despite showing significant growth after. All other posters completely disagreed so it’s only 2 who agreed and lots who don’t.

Yep Cheyenne wasn’t superficial about it like you might think, she had real depth.

You’re right s2 does get better and better! Terry Holloway was great even though it contradicts A story of a divorce in s1.

Unfortunately yes that was it for Brian.

cfr1970
07-12-2020, 11:41 PM
Cheyenne is not hated haha only one other poster agreed and they’re pretty vocal while the op had been banned. It’s also my fault for bumping this very old thread cuz I wanted to continue discussion away from here without spoiling eps for you. Her only really bad Ep is in the s2 finale and she’s constantly berated for this one Ep for some reason despite showing significant growth after. All other posters completely disagreed so it’s only 2 who agreed and lots who don’t.

Yep Cheyenne wasn’t superficial about it like you might think, she had real depth.

You’re right s2 does get better and better! Terry Holloway was great even though it contradicts A story of a divorce in s1.

Unfortunately yes that was it for Brian.

Oh great...I watch the s2 finale next weekend and get to see what Cheyenne did to make her hated. Don't tell what she did...I want to be surprised! :eek:

While watching Terry Holloway episode, I noticed another contradiction as well. Didn't Reba say to Brian when they were in her bedroom that Brock was the only man she's ever been with?

And in Terry Holloway, we find out she was with him before leaving him for Brock. (and even went back to him for a bit after being with Brock!) So along with the old college boyfriend from "A Story of Divorce" we have this too.

They're such small things anyway and doesn't detract from the show for me though. I'm really enjoying s2 so far.

Lorimar Television
07-13-2020, 12:59 AM
It doesn’t make her hated just a few posters hold a grudge it appears. :lol:

I don’t remember, was it implied Terry mad Reba had sex?

I agree it doesn’t detract from s2

cfr1970
07-13-2020, 01:34 AM
It doesn’t make her hated just a few posters hold a grudge it appears. :lol:

I don’t remember, was it implied Terry mad Reba had sex?

I agree it doesn’t detract from s2

That's what I got from it. In the bar, Reba tells Brock that after she left Terry for him, she went back to Terry to let him down easy "a few times". I have to pop it back in to get her exact quote, but Brock then tells Reba "So you actually cheated on me first!" Ha! :lol:

Lorimar Television
07-13-2020, 02:32 AM
Haha maybe Im naive, I just took that to mean they went out again 3 or 4 times. :lol:

cfr1970
07-13-2020, 01:06 PM
Haha maybe Im naive, I just took that to mean they went out again 3 or 4 times. :lol:

You are right! I replayed the scene and Reba says "I went back to let him down easy" and Brock asks "How easy?"....And Reba says "Three or four times easy." and Brock blows a gasket saying she cheated on him when they were together.

But then Reba says "No, we just talked!" :eek:

So I forgot that important little part lol. But saying "three or four times easy" sure does sound like sex doesn't it? I guess they went for the joke with that line, but it does confuse until she says they just talked.

In any case, there's no contradiction then and Brock was the only one Reba was with. :lol:

JO Sweet Heart
07-13-2020, 02:43 PM
"The Rings" was good and I like that Cheyenne loved her tiny diamond ring from Van. I never understood why women want expensive big diamond rings. Like she told him, it's special just because it came from him. Awww. :heart:
To me, this is one of the rare mature moments where Cheyenne is concerned. I love when Van says to Reba, "I didn't just buy her a ring. I bought her a love of inexpensive jewelry!" :D :D :D

God bless you and the whole cast always!!!

Holly

P.S. The Terry Holliway episode is my most favorite of the whole series and Reba's singing was like the cherry on top. I love when she says to Brock, "You'd be surprised how few regrets I really do have."

Lorimar Television
07-13-2020, 07:14 PM
^Definitely a sweet moment

cfr1970
07-14-2020, 12:33 AM
To me, this is one of the rare mature moments where Cheyenne is concerned. I love when Van says to Reba, "I didn't just buy her a ring. I bought her a love of inexpensive jewelry!" :D :D :D

God bless you and the whole cast always!!!

Holly

P.S. The Terry Holliway episode is my most favorite of the whole series and Reba's singing was like the cherry on top. I love when she says to Brock, "You'd be surprised how few regrets I really do have."

It's little things like this that make me really love the show. Cheyenne can be flaky, but she really surprised me when she told Van she loved her little tiny diamond. I wasn't expecting that from her because she comes off as superficial at times and I thought she's balk at the tiny ring. Just look at how gleefully she accepted the Food Stamp card and treated it as a credit card that didn't have to be paid back. It did make me like her more though. Not that I didn't like her before. :)

I'm glad someone else loves the Terry Holliway episode as much as me. I love when sitcoms blend comedy with drama like this while keeping it realistic. This was an excellent episode, and when Reba sang "So Far Away" at the end it got me all teary eyed. :(

I hope there's more episodes like that one sprinkled throughout the series. (But no spoilers please!!) :nonono:

That line about having few regrets was surprising given how crazy things have been for her the past year or so, but it was a nice surprise to hear her to say that because it shows that she's not bitter.

JO Sweet Heart
07-14-2020, 03:24 PM
^^^ She of course doesn't regret so much because marrying Brock gave her the kids that she has. I love when she says to Brock that if she had picked Terry, she would've had her a bar now. :D :D :D

You said no spoilers, but I will go ahead and tell you that we only hear Reba sing one more time and its only for a little bit in a karaoke scene during a season four episode. Dolly Parton's "Nine To Five" is the song that's done.

God bless you and her and Reba always!!!

Holly

cfr1970
07-14-2020, 09:24 PM
^^^ She of course doesn't regret so much because marrying Brock gave her the kids that she has. I love when she says to Brock that if she had picked Terry, she would've had her a bar now. :D :D :D

You said no spoilers, but I will go ahead and tell you that we only hear Reba sing one more time and its only for a little bit in a karaoke scene during a season four episode. Dolly Parton's "Nine To Five" is the song that's done.

God bless you and her and Reba always!!!

Holly

I'm looking forward to seeing Reba sing that! It should be fun and I love the song too. Now i'm wondering if BJ drags her to a Karaoke Bar. :lol: (Don't tell me!)

I like having as little spoilers told as possible because I enjoy watching as if it's all new. Though I may break my rule to ask specific questions like I did about Reba's date Brian leaving. I was hoping we'd see him again, but oh well. I guess it wasn't meant to be.

I'm looking forward to see Reba's future dating mishaps to come though. I think it'd be funny if she fell for BJ's older brother and they wound up sister in laws. :lol:

Don't tell me if that actually does happen! :eek:

Lorimar Television
07-14-2020, 09:29 PM
Haha

cfr1970
07-18-2020, 10:43 PM
Just watched "The Feud" where Brock and Reba's boss fought. Not a great one but I noticed 2 things in this episode.

One, that pretty lamp by the couch in the living room is gone. It had a nice lampshade with different colors on it that I liked and now it's replaced with a hideous one with flowers all over it. Boo. I'm gonna miss that old lamp. :lol:

And in the scene where Reba is in the living room with Brock and her boss, you can see a big book on the shelf with "Texas" on it....but then in the next scene with Kyra & Van in the living room....the "Texas" book is gone! :lol:

Does anyone else notice little things like this too when watching TV? :confused:

Ok, 3 more episodes to go tonight! :crazy:

cfr1970
07-19-2020, 12:41 AM
I liked the next episode "And the Grammy Goes to..". Especially seeing Jenny O' Hara playing Reba's ex Mother in Law---though she'll always be Doug Heffernan's Mom to me. :lol:

"The Wall" was one I remember seeing years ago in syndication where Reba & Barbara Jean channel Lucy & Ethel....it reminded me of the one where Lucy & Ethel tried to go over the wall into some Hollywood Star's home. Fun episode! :lol:

I hope there's more stuff like this with them two in future episodes.

Then there was "The Best Defense" which I found to be the weakest of the 4 I watched tonight. Oh well...I guess I can't love them all. Reba & Barbara Jean hitting each other at the defense class seemed too forced.

I mean, in one episode they get closer and then in the next Reba hates her again and wants to cause her pain...and this time physical! Not nice! :nonono:

I'll watch the last 4 episodes of season 2 tomorrow and can't wait to see what Cheyenne does to anger some fans!! I'm really looking forward to that! :wave:

JO Sweet Heart
07-19-2020, 01:46 AM
^^^ What I love about the self defense class episode is Kyra giving Cheyenne what she should've been given sooner.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. Jake is funny too when he refuses to let Brock know about the security code. :D :D :D

Lorimar Television
07-19-2020, 08:04 PM
Should be interesting to hear your opinion on that! Remember the season 3 premiere is an hour Ep too.

cfr1970
07-19-2020, 10:13 PM
Should be interesting to hear your opinion on that! Remember the season 3 premiere is an hour Ep too.

I remember this one!! It didn't come back to me until the end of "Location, Location, Location" when Kyra asked Brock if she could move in with him. I remember this story line from syndication 10 years ago.

The cliffhanger at the end of "Your Place or Mine" left me completely hanging because I have no idea what Kyra chose....DON'T SPOIL ME PLEASE!!....I'll wait till next Saturday to find out...I LOVE cliffhangers like this!! :happyface

Now I see why some people hate Cheyenne....I don't hate her, but it was pretty messed up what she did to cause Kyra to not be able to do her summer semester in England.

The fact that she carelessly dropped classes Reba was paying for was incredibly irresponsible and if she wants to continue college, Reba should've told her she has to skip a semester so Kyra could do her trip. IMO that was the fair thing to do.

Laying the guilt trip about the baby losing day care was low and showed how selfish she is...and Van too. I really wish Reba hadn't given her that money and forced her to live with the consequence of her decisions.

Kyra got the shaft and I completely understand why she'd want to move with her Dad and BJ. I THINK she does in season 3....but don't tell me lol. I like wondering! :lol:

Also, I think it was wrong for Reba to tell Kyra that she used the money for Cheyenne. When she first told her she couldn't go, Kyra was fine with it thinking she didn't have enough money.

Why Reba decided to go all the way with the whole truth is beyond me. I don't think Kyra would ever have found out about Cheyenne getting the money and everything would've been ok. I guess Reba doesn't believe in lying.

I also had a vague memory of Barbara Jean being Reba's neighbor and when they bought the house around the corner it showed me I wasn't going crazy lol. When they lived in that condo, I wondered why I kept remembering they lived closer to each other.

Anyway the last 2 episodes of this season was really good with a few LOL jokes...When BJ said she was thinking of turning the 4th bedroom into a library, Reba's "That's gonna be one lonely book" was hysterical. :lol:

Now I can't wait for Saturday to see how this all works out. I think I like Cheyenne a little less now and Kyra more...I used to call Kyra a Darlene from Roseanne clone, but she's been getting better and becoming her own character more this second season.

I'm also glad it's a one hour season opener!! Should be fun!! :lol::wave:

Lorimar Television
07-19-2020, 11:17 PM
Glad you enjoyed it! Also happy you like Kyra more, lots of character development goes throughout the series. I think reba told Kyra so she didn’t find out from someone else. Despite Cheyenne being irresponsible she will grow from this (some may disagree that’s fine)

cfr1970
07-19-2020, 11:52 PM
Glad you enjoyed it! Also happy you like Kyra more, lots of character development goes throughout the series. I think reba told Kyra so she didn’t find out from someone else. Despite Cheyenne being irresponsible she will grow from this (some may disagree that’s fine)

I'm glad to hear Cheyenne grows from it. I would hope we see repercussions of all this regarding her and if you say she grows from it, that tells me she hopefully feels badly for hurting Kyra with her irresponsibility.

I still think Reba should've cut Cheyenne off from school for a semester and given the money to Kyra. Cheyenne really needs to grow up, and you'd think with a baby she would.

But maybe that's going to be her character development in season 3 and i'm really looking forward to it now. These last 2 episodes were so great and I hope the show keeps that momentum going.

cfr1970
07-25-2020, 07:51 PM
The season 3 one hour opener was good. I liked the flashbacks but seems they did a little history changing with Barbara Jean being hired by Reba because she stopped working for Brock.

I'm not sure, but didn't Reba not know her until Brock told her he was leaving her and she was pregnant? I thought that's how they met. I remember Barbara Jean telling Reba to call her BJ because everyone else does and she made that crack "I know why" lol.

Seems if they already knew each other for years she wouldn't need to say "Call me BJ" since they've known each other already. Was this a change of history or was I remembering season 1 wrong? :confused:

I liked how Cheyenne & Van kept getting caught eavesdropping on Reba. :lol:

I was expecting Cheyenne to turn it around and say to Reba "It's rude to sneak up on people!" :lol:

I liked how Reba & Kyra made up while she still stayed with her Dad. It was nice that Reba understood why in the end. And i'm glad Kyra told Cheyenne it was all because of her---but her crying reaction afterwards seemed so fake. Not liking Cheyenne much!

There's 2 more episodes on this side of the disc i'll watch tonight. I really hate these 2 sided discs. They're so damn annoying....one time I sat down all ready to watch and got comfortable and then realized I forgot to flip the disc over and was not happy to get up and cross the room to flip the darn thing.

Lorimar Television
07-26-2020, 03:07 AM
Yes they retconned how Brock and BJ met a bit. Haha the double side discs don't bother me as much, but its def harder to binge.

cfr1970
07-26-2020, 10:59 AM
Yes they retconned how Brock and BJ met a bit. Haha the double side discs don't bother me as much, but its def harder to binge.

The next episode was "War & Peace" where Barbara Jean sets all the rules for Kyra, and my God the director must have told the Melissa Peterman to just let loose with the character because I think she went a little over the edge with BJ's mannerisms to the point of being cartoonish.

I was like "Reel it in a little woman!" I like BJ but don't want to see her become a caricature or parody of herself. It reminds me of how Chrissy on Three's Company went from being lightly dim to full out mental by the time she left the show---her ditziness became way too extreme to where she needed to be committed for being so stupid lol.

I hope the BJ character doesn't go down that path.

Then was "The Best and the Blondest" where flaky Cheyenne & idiot Van ditched the Career Fair for a concert. (I called Cheyenne flaky a few weeks ago here and they actually called her that in this episode lol)

I'm not liking this girl more and more. Reba and Brock are paying for this girl's college education and she just drops classes that are paid for, and then ditches career fairs for concerts....It's like "What the hell is she even doing in college?!"

It only makes me feel more badly for Kyra for getting the shaft while her irresponsible flaky sister gets everything and doesn't appreciate it.

I was on Reba's side about the dentist thing---she just pulls it out of the air like it's suddenly her lifelong calling----she's so flaky it's sad. I'm curious to see if she follows through with this for the rest of the series---but I doubt it.

And those double sided dvds are terrible----they need to invent a disc flipping dvd player so I don't have to get off the couch to binge. :lol:

Lorimar Television
07-26-2020, 08:26 PM
Dont worry Cheyenne commits and follows through- but theres char development along the way. The likable Cheyenne and bitchy Kyra will be back very soon.

cfr1970
07-27-2020, 12:59 AM
Dont worry Cheyenne commits and follows through- but theres char development along the way. The likable Cheyenne and bitchy Kyra will be back very soon.

I have a vague memory in my head of Cheyenne in a dentist type outfit from when I watched the syndication episodes 10 years ago. It's good she committed to it, but it did just seem she pulled it out of nowhere so it's understandable why Reba would doubt her.

The next 2 episodes were kind of duds, but I liked "The Ghost & Mrs. Hart" where we FINALLY saw Barbara Jean take responsibility for what she did to Reba.

I was so glad to see her tell Reba the guilt she felt about breaking up her marriage. It was a long time coming and you could see she was being sincere and was carrying the guilt for a while.

I just don't know why she didn't try to absolve herself with Reba before that if she felt that way all this time. But it was nice to finally see her tell this to Reba who at this point in her life probably didn't need to hear it anyway as she seemed to have gotten past it all, but it would've been nice had she had it said to her much earlier.

I liked how Reba tried to make Barbara Jean feel better by focusing on the positive outcomes of the situation. That was really mature of her as well as sweet to think of BJ's feelings when she could've twisted the knife while she was groveling. :lol:

I think this scene elevates their relationship to a new level of respect, at least on Reba's part. It seems Reba has accepted her as being a part of the family and starting to treat her as a member. It was a really wonderful scene between the two and I can accept BJ myself more now that she came clean and apologized for everything.

I was beginning to wonder if she was an unfeeling sociopath who didn't care what she did to Reba yet still expected her to be her best buddy. :lol:

Lorimar Television
07-27-2020, 02:07 AM
Really you didn’t enjoy Spies Like Reba or Calling The Pot Brock? Those two are some of my favs. Especially SLR, the adults reading Kyra’s emails was hilarious. It was nice to see Brock say that Kyra living with him doesn’t mean she gets to cut Reba out of her life too. I’m surprised it took til s3 for BJ to apologize for the affair.

Lorimar Television
08-03-2020, 01:52 AM
Cfr where you at?

cfr1970
08-03-2020, 10:56 AM
Cfr where you at?

Was too busy to post yesterday but I watched 8 episodes over the weekend:

I watched episodes :

The Cat's Meow--Kyra wanted to keep a cat (she doesn't strike me as being into pets the way she's always so sarcastic and snipey towards everyone) and Barbara Jean was allergic. Cute episode and I liked BJ injecting the word "Cat" into normal words---"Well hide her in the "Cattic!" :lol:

Regarding Henry was funny where Reba found out BJ lost her kid at the mall and didn't want her babysitting Elizabeth. I can't believe Reba wore that sweater with BJ's face on it lol.

The Great Race was just eh....Reba & Brock get competitive with running, but the side story where BJ tried teaching flaky Cheyenne to cook was funny.

All Growed Up where Van was afraid to try out for the professional footbal team because he's have to be an adult was good. Seems he's too comfortable at Reba's and wants to leech off her forever---should we start calling him Meathead now? :brent

The United Front was good. I can see how they were all going nuts over 14 year old Kyra dating a 17 year old boy after what happened with Cheyenne, but Brock's rule about her not dating till she was 18 was weird. At first I thought he was joking, but he was actually serious. Talk about extremes!
But a 14 year old girl dating a 17 year old boy is really asking for trouble and they were right to be nervous about that! :eek:

To Tell the Truth was a really good one where Van hung out with a hot girl that was work related but lied by omission to Cheyenne by calling her a "buddy" and making Cheyenne assume it was a guy. That's a big no no that only makes things appear worse.
And Cheyenne was understandable when she revealed her fears of following in her parent's footsteps and Reba accepted responsibility for that. Reba's such a good Mom. :bighug:

Brock's Mulligan was dumb. It doesn't seem in character for Brock to want to just drop his dentistry practice to play golf full time, especially when he still has 3 kids to raise. It's incredibly irresponsible and he's never been shown to be flaky like that.
I can't wait to see where this goes, but it's such a poor decision to make and it just came out of nowhere and so selfish. Why not just wait 10 years till the youngest kid is a teen and then try it? So irresponsible and unfair to the kids. And of course---Kyra gets the shaft again---and this time through her college fund. That poor girl lol.

The Shirt Off My Back---a continuation of the previous episode where Reba and BJ go into business making patchwork jackets to fund Kyra's college fund. This makes me a little mad...why the heck should Reba take on Brock's responsibility for her college fund because he wants to throw his business away to play golf?! It's so unfair to her. Brock is such an ass. :angryfire
Van shaving his head was funny---I remember this from watching years ago in syndication when he really got his hair buzzed off in the chair lol.
I do that to myself every 3 months to save on going to the haircut place and it's no big deal imo. Why he and Cheyenne were freaking out about it was a little confusing.
Van also looks better without all that hair anyway and he has a good shaped head for that cut. :lol:

The last 8 episodes of season 3 is next weekend and then the following week I start season 4---they're going by fast!! Though I still have to buy season 5 & 6 before I finish 4.

Lorimar Television
08-03-2020, 09:55 PM
Great reviews cfr! Happy you're enjoying s3!

cfr1970
08-09-2020, 01:37 AM
4 more episodes tonight:

"Sister Act"---Really enjoyed this one where Kyra punched out a classmate for calling Cheyenne a slut. Cheyenne's flaky reaction about her sister defending her throughout the episode was funny. :lol:

And my favorite part was the scene where Van comes out with the big volcano for Jake's project and says "Bring me a virgin", Reba looked like she was about to break character by laughing. You could see she was struggling to hold back laughing and composed herself quickly. I love when things like that happen. :lol: A very fun episode.

"Fight or Flight"--Kyra comes back to Reba's house late at night to sleep in her old room because Brock & BJ are fighting late into the evening and it's reminding her of when Reba & Brock fought. Another good episode and I like when things get a little dramatic.
Van & Cheyenne on the cable show was just eh...but the best part was when Van crashed into the donut table at the end of the scene. :lol:

"The Big Fix Up"---Oh God not that short little Beverly from Will & Grace again. UGH! Whenever I see this actor that's who I see! Not the best episode, but I liked the ending where BJ was upset watching Reba have instant rapport with someone and realized after 3 years she doesn't have the same rapport with her.
Why this woman honestly believes Reba can ever be the kind of friend to her that she wants is beyond my comprehension. She stole her husband for crying out loud!!
Reba seems to know this woman is out of her mind but goes easy on her as not to hurt her feelings. I swear that Reba has the patience of a saint lol.
And what I found so creepy was BJ saying how she'll write about their conversation in her "Reba Journal". What the hell?! :eek::eek:

"The Good Girl"----Everyone thinks they scratched Rhonda's rear end....(for those that don't know....Rhonda's a car! :lol:) Funny episode where everyone is admitting fault and they're all shocked when they find out Reba was the culprit because she's such a "Good Girl" as the title says.

Out of the 4 watched tonight, "Sister Act" was my favorite one and tomorrow's the last 3 episodes of season 3!! :):wave:

JO Sweet Heart
08-09-2020, 12:32 PM
^^^ To me, Cheyenne is the last person who deserved Kyra's defense especially when there is still no change in Cheyenne's behavior afterwards through out the rest of the series.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. During an episode from the final season, there is another matter between the two girls concerning Kyra's 5th birthday...maybe that is when Cheyenne finally grows up and shows some long over due maturity.

cfr1970
08-09-2020, 07:53 PM
^^^ To me, Cheyenne is the last person who deserved Kyra's defense especially when there is still no change in Cheyenne's behavior afterwards through out the rest of the series.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. During an episode from the final season, there is another matter between the two girls concerning Kyra's 5th birthday...maybe that is when Cheyenne finally grows up and shows some long over due maturity.

I've noticed that Cheyenne appears to be getting a little more ditsy than before. It's strange because now that she's studying to become a dentist, her character should be less ditsy and not more.
But there are some instances where she acts logical and mature so her character is uneven imo.

cfr1970
08-09-2020, 08:21 PM
One thing I find odd is that both Reba and BJ just walk into each other's houses. I don't think Reba would take kindly to BJ just waltzing into her home the way she does and I can't see Reba doing the same going over to BJ's house. It's all so weird.

Lorimar Television
08-10-2020, 04:30 AM
4 more episodes tonight:

"Sister Act"---Really enjoyed this one where Kyra punched out a classmate for calling Cheyenne a slut. Cheyenne's flaky reaction about her sister defending her throughout the episode was funny. :lol:

And my favorite part was the scene where Van comes out with the big volcano for Jake's project and says "Bring me a virgin", Reba looked like she was about to break character by laughing. You could see she was struggling to hold back laughing and composed herself quickly. I love when things like that happen. :lol: A very fun episode.

"Fight or Flight"--Kyra comes back to Reba's house late at night to sleep in her old room because Brock & BJ are fighting late into the evening and it's reminding her of when Reba & Brock fought. Another good episode and I like when things get a little dramatic.
Van & Cheyenne on the cable show was just eh...but the best part was when Van crashed into the donut table at the end of the scene. :lol:

"The Big Fix Up"---Oh God not that short little Beverly from Will & Grace again. UGH! Whenever I see this actor that's who I see! Not the best episode, but I liked the ending where BJ was upset watching Reba have instant rapport with someone and realized after 3 years she doesn't have the same rapport with her.
Why this woman honestly believes Reba can ever be the kind of friend to her that she wants is beyond my comprehension. She stole her husband for crying out loud!!
Reba seems to know this woman is out of her mind but goes easy on her as not to hurt her feelings. I swear that Reba has the patience of a saint lol.
And what I found so creepy was BJ saying how she'll write about their conversation in her "Reba Journal". What the hell?! :eek::eek:

"The Good Girl"----Everyone thinks they scratched Rhonda's rear end....(for those that don't know....Rhonda's a car! :lol:) Funny episode where everyone is admitting fault and they're all shocked when they find out Reba was the culprit because she's such a "Good Girl" as the title says.

Out of the 4 watched tonight, "Sister Act" was my favorite one and tomorrow's the last 3 episodes of season 3!! :):wave:

Sister Act is def a great ep I loved it too. It was nice seeing Cheyenne and Kyra bond. I liked Fight or Flight, the cable show was hilarious. Van muttering like an idiot while Cheyenne was confident. :lol:

Dont worry thats the last episode with Terry, or Beverly as you call him. :lol:

Lorimar Television
08-10-2020, 04:31 AM
^^^ To me, Cheyenne is the last person who deserved Kyra's defense especially when there is still no change in Cheyenne's behavior afterwards through out the rest of the series.


:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

cfr1970
08-10-2020, 10:44 AM
Sister Act is def a great ep I loved it too. It was nice seeing Cheyenne and Kyra bond. I liked Fight or Flight, the cable show was hilarious. Van muttering like an idiot while Cheyenne was confident. :lol:

Dont worry thats the last episode with Terry, or Beverly as you call him. :lol:

Thank God for no more of Terry/Beverly! He was almost playing the same character with all the gay remarks towards Van & Brock. This is Reba...not Will & Grace (and Thank God for that too) :lol:

I watched the final 3 episodes of season 3 last night and I was disappointed with them. :(

The whole depression with Brock just came out of nowhere and felt too much like an advertisement for antidepressants. And Reba saying she was on them for a while when Brock left her was strange.

Her husband of 20 years just left her for a younger woman---you're supposed to be depressed from that!! It's normal to go through those emotions naturally and why a doctor prescribed "happy pills" for that confuses me.

Why suppress your natural feelings of sadness with pills?! She says she was on them a few months---but I think going through her sadness and the rest of her feelings naturally is more healthy than popping pills for it. That whole part was weird for me.

BJ is over the top, but I agree with her point....that it's better to work through your emotions naturally. The man is pushing 50 and surely he's worked through all his varying emotions without pills during those 5 decades....why suddenly does he need pills to work through them?! It made no sense and seems like a way to push prescription taking onto the audience.

And the finale where Brock wonders if he should've stayed with Reba. Oh good lord...this doesn't make me want to tune in to find out what happened. :lol:

I hope this isn't the first sign of the show going off the rails. It's been really great so far, but I guess all shows have to jump the shark eventually. :(

Van & Cheyenne forging Reba's name on the apartment application was EVIL! What if they had been approved? Reba would've been on the line for that $1,500 monthly rent. I hated the both of them for doing that.

This was the most irresponsible i've seen them and Cheyenne's character goes back and forth...just in an episode before that she was telling Van how financial security if important to her and she wants to grow her savings account rather than foolishly spend it....now here she is all giddy about getting a penthouse apartment they know they can't afford.

Where's the consistency here?! :confused:

I hope season 4 gets things back on track and they drop the silly depression story for Brock and make Cheyenne more consistent...either keep her flaky or keep her mature---you can't keep going back and forth.

Lorimar Television
08-10-2020, 06:14 PM
No the show doesnt jump the shark imo, but everyone sees thing differently.

cfr1970
08-16-2020, 01:13 AM
Watched the first 3 episodes tonight of Season 4 and i'm sad to say i'm not liking this whole Brock and BJ splitting up. I'm just not a fan of the whole story line and hope it's not a big season long arc.

I like drama, but I think this is too much drama for a lighthearted comedy. I already miss the fun episodes and hope they resolve Brock & BJ's separation quickly.

Van is becoming more stupid to the point of being annoying. Sometimes he acts like he's mentally challenged 8 year old. Cheyenne is still wishy washy flaky and Kyra is the only one I like so far this season.

Reba is thankfully still Reba, but her new hairstyle is distracting. I can't tell if it's her own hair or a wig, but it's sticking out all over the place that I want to reach in the TV and fix it. :lol:

It's a weird hairstyle....like she rolled out of bed and didn't brush it into place.

Tomorrow is the next 4 episodes (only 3 episodes were in side A of the disc, so I guess it's a shorter season)...But side B has 4 episodes that i'll watch tomorrow and hope Brock & BJ are back together in those episodes.

Lorimar Television
08-16-2020, 02:32 AM
Haha I like Reba's season 4 hair. Its def not a wig. The light hearted moments will def be there still, dont worry.

cfr1970
08-16-2020, 11:09 AM
Haha I like Reba's season 4 hair. Its def not a wig. The light hearted moments will def be there still, dont worry.

It looks like a bunch of feathers are growing out of her head. Whoever did that to her should've been fired. :lol:

I'm glad things will get lighthearted again. Right now there's too much drama with the separation and I hope it's resolved quick.

JO Sweet Heart
08-17-2020, 06:36 PM
Watched the first 3 episodes tonight of Season 4 and i'm sad to say i'm not liking this whole Brock and BJ splitting up. I'm just not a fan of the whole story line and hope it's not a big season long arc.

I like drama, but I think this is too much drama for a lighthearted comedy. I already miss the fun episodes and hope they resolve Brock & BJ's separation quickly.

Van is becoming more stupid to the point of being annoying. Sometimes he acts like he's mentally challenged 8 year old. Cheyenne is still wishy washy flaky and Kyra is the only one I like so far this season.

Reba is thankfully still Reba, but her new hairstyle is distracting. I can't tell if it's her own hair or a wig, but it's sticking out all over the place that I want to reach in the TV and fix it. :lol:

It's a weird hairstyle....like she rolled out of bed and didn't brush it into place.

Tomorrow is the next 4 episodes (only 3 episodes were in side A of the disc, so I guess it's a shorter season)...But side B has 4 episodes that i'll watch tomorrow and hope Brock & BJ are back together in those episodes.
I love the Brock and Barbra Jean story line, especially when their marriage counselor named Dr. Baker wants to speak to Reba about them. :D :D :D

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. Kyra has some good stuff to say during this season. I want to give her a hug when she says that she is sick of being the only grown up in the family.

cfr1970
08-17-2020, 08:09 PM
I love the Brock and Barbra Jean story line, especially when their marriage counselor named Dr. Baker wants to speak to Reba about them. :D :D :D

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. Kyra has some good stuff to say during this season. I want to give her a hug when she says that she is sick of being the only grown up in the family.

Kyra is so far my favorite this season (behind Reba of course). I like how her character is growing and evolving while Cheyenne & Van on the other hand seem to be regressing with their buffoonish behavior...especially Van.

I watched the next 4 episodes and the Brock/BJ separation is thankfully resolved. I just didn't care for all that fighting.

I loved the episode with Wendy Malick playing the lesbian who has a misunderstanding with Reba thanks to silly Van. That episode was LOL funny. These are the kinds of episodes I enjoy most---when it's funny and lighthearted. :):wave:

Lorimar Television
08-18-2020, 05:40 AM
I loved the episode with Wendy Malick playing the lesbian who has a misunderstanding with Reba thanks to silly Van. That episode was LOL funny. These are the kinds of episodes I enjoy most---when it's funny and lighthearted. :):wave:

Haha thats a great ep! Which other ones did you see?

Christopher
08-20-2020, 08:55 AM
Watched the first 3 episodes tonight of Season 4 and i'm sad to say i'm not liking this whole Brock and BJ splitting up. I'm just not a fan of the whole story line and hope it's not a big season long arc.

I like drama, but I think this is too much drama for a lighthearted comedy. I already miss the fun episodes and hope they resolve Brock & BJ's separation quickly.


Since you've gotten this far into the series, have you noticed that this show is rarely about Reba? It's always about the kids or Brock and BJ. I'm not saying this is a bad thing. I think this is one of the reasons the show was a success unlike Bette. Reba wasn't an attention hog needing everything about her for every episode. Bette on the other hand had every episode about her and her fame. It was a diva sitcom. Reba knew to share the spotlight and just be the matriarch in the series for everyone's problems. It's an ensemble cast show rather than just a one star show with a supporting cast. It's a shame The CW didn't want the show because I don't think season 6 was planned to be that way when season 5 ended. You'll see what I mean when you get there.

Lorimar Television
08-20-2020, 09:31 PM
Reba def shares the spotlight but she’s def the voice of reason on the show as well

Christopher
08-20-2020, 10:33 PM
Reba def shares the spotlight but she’s def the voice of reason on the show as well

Did you ever watch Bette? I came across it again a while ago. It was done so much different than how Reba did her sitcom. Every episode had Bette as the star and no one else mattered. After 12 episodes, they had to replace the guy playing her husband. I guess he got tired of the drama behind scenes because Bette went on Rosie after the show was canceled that first season and told her never do a sitcom. I'm glad Reba made her show a family centered show. It turned out a lot better than what Bette did. Plus they had more material to work with on Reba making it a family show. If Bette had not been canceled, they would have dried up quickly on what to do next because you can only do so many diva episodes before fans turn off. Apparently 16 was the cut off number since that's how long it took to get canceled :lol:

cfr1970
08-21-2020, 12:31 AM
Haha thats a great ep! Which other ones did you see?

I watched the first 7 episodes of season 4 last weekend. The last episode I saw was "All Fore One" where Brock finally let go of the silly golf dream and is going back to being a dentist.

And Van is commuting back and forth from Denver to play football while Cheyenne and the baby stay home which I don't understand....I mean I understand it...it's just a weird story line because Denver to Houston back and forth is pretty far to do on a regular basis.

I'm just happy the lighthearted comedy is back and it's past all that breakup fighting between Brock & BJ. I watch the next 8 episodes this weekend. I do 4 Saturday and 4 Sunday.

cfr1970
08-21-2020, 12:48 AM
Since you've gotten this far into the series, have you noticed that this show is rarely about Reba? It's always about the kids or Brock and BJ. I'm not saying this is a bad thing. I think this is one of the reasons the show was a success unlike Bette. Reba wasn't an attention hog needing everything about her for every episode. Bette on the other hand had every episode about her and her fame. It was a diva sitcom. Reba knew to share the spotlight and just be the matriarch in the series for everyone's problems. It's an ensemble cast show rather than just a one star show with a supporting cast. It's a shame The CW didn't want the show because I don't think season 6 was planned to be that way when season 5 ended. You'll see what I mean when you get there.

I've noticed that Reba closely follows the outline for Seinfeld where she's the straight character among a bunch of flaky characters and that's a premise that usually works imo.

I watched Bette when it aired but my memory is very hazy on the details. I think Bette was going for a Lucy type sitcom where each episode was all about her and her wild shenanigans. What worked for Lucy just didn't carry over for Bette and fell flat.

I can't really say what made Bette fail without giving it another look, but Reba succeeds because she's a solid and believable character among all the wacky ones. That reins things in and gives the show a base that the audience can relate to.

I think when the star is the crazy wacky one, it usually doesn't work because the audience can't relate with that. I think Lucy is the one exception. This is why the wacky ones are usually relegated as the co stars and side characters.

One example is the show 227 where Jackee played the flaky Sandra who was hysterical for years as the co star neighbor...but she flopped miserably when they tried spinning her of with her own show.

I think Bette was too out there and unrelatable for audiences to warm up to her. And I think if Reba was the crazy, wacky character the show probably wouldn't have lasted past the first season.

It's like Van & Cheyenne...they're both so flaky that they'd never survive as stars of their own show. You need to have the star as the straight, relatable character and surround them with nutcases like that and you have potential for a hit show.

I'm really enjoying Reba, the only slump was the breakup with Brock & BJ, but that was thankfully over quick and seemed like it was just used as a season 3 to season 4 cliffhanger and things are getting back on track now.

Lorimar Television
08-21-2020, 01:57 AM
Did you ever watch Bette? I came across it again a while ago. It was done so much different than how Reba did her sitcom. Every episode had Bette as the star and no one else mattered. After 12 episodes, they had to replace the guy playing her husband. I guess he got tired of the drama behind scenes because Bette went on Rosie after the show was canceled that first season and told her never do a sitcom. I'm glad Reba made her show a family centered show. It turned out a lot better than what Bette did. Plus they had more material to work with on Reba making it a family show. If Bette had not been canceled, they would have dried up quickly on what to do next because you can only do so many diva episodes before fans turn off. Apparently 16 was the cut off number since that's how long it took to get canceled :lol:

No I never saw it. What year was that on?

cfr1970
08-21-2020, 10:41 AM
No I never saw it. What year was that on?

Bette came out a year before Reba in 2000. and only lasted for 5 months. :lol:

Lorimar Television
08-21-2020, 10:07 PM
Bette came out a year before Reba in 2000. and only lasted for 5 months. :lol:

Haha ok

cfr1970
08-23-2020, 01:09 AM
4 more episodes tonight and I liked them all. :talk:

1. Hello, I Must Be Going ---A good one where Kyra feels her Dad hates her because he's always fighting with BJ when she's there and when she says she wants to move back with Reba he doesn't try stopping her which only reinforces her feelings that he doesn't want her there. I think Kyra is my favorite character behind Reba and it's weird because I didn't like her too much when I first started watching because she seemed too much like a Darlene from Roseanne clone. But over the seasons she's successfully veered away from that and became her own character and does some growing...unlike Darlene who never did. :lol:

Van lying about being called back to Denver early because Cheyenne was filling up his time when he just wanted to rest was funny. :lol:

2. "Thanksgiving"---Another good one where Reba wanted to hog Thanksgiving with the family all to herself. I felt bad for BJ especially after she revealed why she wanted to host that Thanksgiving with the family at her house.
Before she revealed it, I did wonder why Reba was being so bitchy about it since she gets all the Thanksgivings---why not give ONE to BJ? It's been 3 years now since she married her ex and she's already accepted her as part of the family and I thought Reba could've reneged to be a sport.
She did understand after BJ told her why she wanted it so that was good, but I wish Reba could've been more open to share the holiday. What she said at the very end when saying grace about the gravy (BJ) was nice.

3. "No Boys Upstairs"---Kyra has a Muppet for a boyfriend that Reba doesn't feel comfortable having stay at the house alone with her. The whole scene was weird and unrealistic.
No boyfriend would be that disrespectful towards their girlfriends mother. My God you couldn't even see his face! And he didn't speak. GMAB! Kyra would've made fun of that---not fawn all over it. It was all so bizarre.
I liked Cheyenne visiting Van's apartment in Denver which looked just fine before Cheyenne redecorated it when he was out.
What the hell did she do? Go on a shopping spree for all that stuff?! It was strange that she would do that since she doesn't even live there....why bother?! And she really did ugly it up with those pillows and candles. :lol:

4. "Diamond Jim Brady"---So this is how they being Van back from Denver. They give him Spinal Stenosis. Yikes! From what i've read about it, it's a serious affliction and very debilitating. Couldn't they just have him break his legs or something?
Well, he did fracture his tailbone...and I didn't understand why everyone was laughing at that. It all came off so juvenile to me. Just because the injury is on his backside doesn't make it funny imo. An injury is still serious---especially a bone fracture.
Then he gets rich with a $100k settlement since docs didn't find the Stenosis on his original physical and he goes on a crazy spending spree. I cringed at that whole thing because when I was his age, I came into that much money and stupidly did the same thing.
People in their 20's should never be handed that much money so easily. I kept yelling at the TV "BUY A HOUSE!! You'll thank yourself in 20 years!!" :lol:

When he walked in wearing that hideous white fur coat was funny though. And in the end Reba talked sense into him to take the stuff back. But I didn't understand when she said 50k was going to taxes...I guess a settlement is considered earned income that the government gets a share of? :confused:

When I got my big windfall it was an inheritance and I don't recall Uncle Sam taking any of it. I guess settlements have different rules.

All great episodes though and i'm looking forward to what happens next. Hopefully he doesn't blow the rest of it---but as mentioned before, I know Cheyenne develops an alcohol dependency from glancing at Wikipedia so I wonder if this is what triggers it. (BUT NO SPOILERS PLEASE!!!! :nonono:

Lorimar Television
08-23-2020, 03:22 AM
People in their 20's should never be handed that much money so easily. I kept yelling at the TV "BUY A HOUSE!! You'll thank yourself in 20 years!!" :lol:
:rofl:
All great episodes though and i'm looking forward to what happens next. Hopefully he doesn't blow the rest of it---but as mentioned before, I know Cheyenne develops an alcohol dependency from glancing at Wikipedia so I wonder if this is what triggers it. (BUT NO SPOILERS PLEASE!!!! :nonono:
:lookaroun

Glad you enjoyed the eps and are enjoying s4 more!

JO Sweet Heart
08-23-2020, 11:13 AM
4 more episodes tonight and I liked them all. :talk:

1. Hello, I Must Be Going ---A good one where Kyra feels her Dad hates her because he's always fighting with BJ when she's there and when she says she wants to move back with Reba he doesn't try stopping her which only reinforces her feelings that he doesn't want her there. I think Kyra is my favorite character behind Reba and it's weird because I didn't like her too much when I first started watching because she seemed too much like a Darlene from Roseanne clone. But over the seasons she's successfully veered away from that and became her own character and does some growing...unlike Darlene who never did. :lol:

Van lying about being called back to Denver early because Cheyenne was filling up his time when he just wanted to rest was funny. :lol:

2. "Thanksgiving"---Another good one where Reba wanted to hog Thanksgiving with the family all to herself. I felt bad for BJ especially after she revealed why she wanted to host that Thanksgiving with the family at her house.
Before she revealed it, I did wonder why Reba was being so bitchy about it since she gets all the Thanksgivings---why not give ONE to BJ? It's been 3 years now since she married her ex and she's already accepted her as part of the family and I thought Reba could've reneged to be a sport.
She did understand after BJ told her why she wanted it so that was good, but I wish Reba could've been more open to share the holiday. What she said at the very end when saying grace about the gravy (BJ) was nice.

3. "No Boys Upstairs"---Kyra has a Muppet for a boyfriend that Reba doesn't feel comfortable having stay at the house alone with her. The whole scene was weird and unrealistic.
No boyfriend would be that disrespectful towards their girlfriends mother. My God you couldn't even see his face! And he didn't speak. GMAB! Kyra would've made fun of that---not fawn all over it. It was all so bizarre.
I liked Cheyenne visiting Van's apartment in Denver which looked just fine before Cheyenne redecorated it when he was out.
What the hell did she do? Go on a shopping spree for all that stuff?! It was strange that she would do that since she doesn't even live there....why bother?! And she really did ugly it up with those pillows and candles. :lol:

4. "Diamond Jim Brady"---So this is how they being Van back from Denver. They give him Spinal Stenosis. Yikes! From what i've read about it, it's a serious affliction and very debilitating. Couldn't they just have him break his legs or something?
Well, he did fracture his tailbone...and I didn't understand why everyone was laughing at that. It all came off so juvenile to me. Just because the injury is on his backside doesn't make it funny imo. An injury is still serious---especially a bone fracture.
Then he gets rich with a $100k settlement since docs didn't find the Stenosis on his original physical and he goes on a crazy spending spree. I cringed at that whole thing because when I was his age, I came into that much money and stupidly did the same thing.
People in their 20's should never be handed that much money so easily. I kept yelling at the TV "BUY A HOUSE!! You'll thank yourself in 20 years!!" :lol:

When he walked in wearing that hideous white fur coat was funny though. And in the end Reba talked sense into him to take the stuff back. But I didn't understand when she said 50k was going to taxes...I guess a settlement is considered earned income that the government gets a share of? :confused:

When I got my big windfall it was an inheritance and I don't recall Uncle Sam taking any of it. I guess settlements have different rules.

All great episodes though and i'm looking forward to what happens next. Hopefully he doesn't blow the rest of it---but as mentioned before, I know Cheyenne develops an alcohol dependency from glancing at Wikipedia so I wonder if this is what triggers it. (BUT NO SPOILERS PLEASE!!!! :nonono
I get why Cheyanne planned so much for whenever Van was home from Denver, but in my opinion, it only went to show how inconsiderate she truly was. She should've just been glad that he was home when she never wanted him to leave in the first place and just let him decide what he wanted to do while there with her and Elizabeth. When you love a person enough, what you are doing with them shouldn't matter so much. Instead, just be happy that you are there with them at all.

Now when Cheyanne went to Denver, it was nice to see her accept his being there, but to me, what Van pointed out to her at the end couldn't have been anymore awesome.....okay now I am starting to remember the look on his face later on when he realizes that Cheyanne has started drinking.....have you gotten to the episode yet when Reba finds Cheyanne at the Karaoke place?

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. To me, if anyone had a reason to go to that bottle, it was Van when he is the one who ends up having to look for a new way of life for himself and his family. What Reba says to Cheyanne at that club couldn't have been better put.

cfr1970
08-23-2020, 11:32 AM
:rofl:

:lookaroun

Glad you enjoyed the eps and are enjoying s4 more!

I am. Things are back on track after the Brock/BJ break up slump. All 4 episodes I watched last night were great. :)

cfr1970
08-23-2020, 11:38 AM
I get why Cheyanne planned so much for whenever Van was home from Denver, but in my opinion, it only went to show how inconsiderate she truly was. She should've just been glad that he was home when she never wanted him to leave in the first place and just let him decide what he wanted to do while there with her and Elizabeth. When you love a person enough, what you are doing with them shouldn't matter so much. Instead, just be happy that you are there with them at all.

Now when Cheyanne went to Denver, it was nice to see her accept his being there, but to me, what Van pointed out to her at the end couldn't have been anymore awesome.....okay now I am starting to remember the look on his face later on when he realizes that Cheyanne has started drinking.....have you gotten to the episode yet when Reba finds Cheyanne at the Karaoke place?

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. To me, if anyone had a reason to go to that bottle, it was Van when he is the one who ends up having to look for a new way of life for himself and his family. What Reba says to Cheyanne at that club couldn't have been better put.

I haven't got to the episode at the Karaoke place yet. It's probably coming up soon, but please don't tell any more since I don't want to be spoiled.

I agree Cheyenne was wrong to fill up Van's time with all those activities when he was home from Denver, but it was also Van's fault for just not saying "I'm tired" and explaining things to her. I think had she known, she would've backed off...not completely, but a little because she does seem a bit pushy and naggy. :lol:

I also liked when he told her that the picture of Cheyenne and the baby on the wall was all the apartment needed. I guess we won't be seeing the apartment anymore anyway now that he's off the team. I thought it was a cute little place before Cheyenne uglied it up with all that crap. :lol:

Lorimar Television
08-24-2020, 01:46 AM
Agreed he never said no, he went along with it. He also left Cheyenne in the cold in the first place, he never talked going to Denver over with her, he decided everything and told Cheyenne what he’s doing and left and that’s why she was upset

cfr1970
08-24-2020, 10:46 AM
Agreed he never said no, he went along with it. He also left Cheyenne in the cold in the first place, he never talked going to Denver over with her, he decided everything and told Cheyenne what he’s doing and left and that’s why she was upset

Yeah I forgot about him just accepting the Denver job without even discussing it with her first. That wasn't right...I can see this marriage heading towards the edge of a cliff. :lol:

cfr1970
08-24-2020, 11:11 AM
Watched 4 more episodes last night:

Reba and the Nanny --Van is acting incredibly irresponsible in this episodes by getting a Nanny to care for his daughter while he goes out having his good times.
I get he's working through his depression of losing his football career, but to just pass his responsibility for caring for his child is terrible. Cheyenne is busy as hell taking extra classes so she can complete college early and be able to support the family which is admirable, but Van is home all day and really should take this time to bond with his daughter.
Also, I hate his hair. OMG what the hell did the stylists do to him?! He has it all combed forward like a 5th Beatle form 1964. It's so hideous! puke:
Reba clashes with the Nanny some, and they apparently keep her on...but we never see her again after this lol. At least she's missing in the next 3 episodes.

Date of Mirth --I was looking forward to Reba dating again, but I couldn't get on board with this episode. I can't stand that guy from Desperate Housewives who played the guy---maybe I can't stand him because I hated that show. :lol:
But when I saw him, it made me remember that awful show so I instantly didn't like him. And BJ fawning over him was weird. Isn't she supposed to be reconciling with Brock?! Now she's openly having the hots for her marriage counselor and defying Reba to date him? So freaking weird. Reba should have had sex with him right in front of her to show her she has no say in anything regarding her love life.....especially after what she did to her with Brock!
Anyway, not a total stinker, but not a favorite either.

Reba the Realtor ---I love the idea of making Reba a realtor and I hope they continue this career path for her. I didn't get why Reba didn't push Van and Cheyenne to buy Brock's condo since he has the 50k to help buy it. But neither are working so they probably wouldn't be approved for a mortgage to fund the balance anyway.
But it would've been nice for them to get it and have their own place to live with Elizabeth.
I don't get how BJ apparently squirreled away $25k in cash to give to Brock to pay off his mortgage balances for the sale. How on earth did she manage that?! And it's actually more since she says at the end if he needed more!
In the second side story, Van managed Kyra's band for a while until he got the boot. That was kind of a snoozefest since we never got to actually see Kyra perform...but I hope we see more of Reba selling houses.

Flowers for Van ---This was a fun episode with the flower mix up and Cheyenne veering into dangerous waters in her marriage by having a play date between her and a divorced man's kid. She comes home literally GUSHING about the time she had with him to Reba & BJ. ohno:
One part that was really dumb was having Cheyenne get Van's flowers and thinking it was from the divorced guy.
Van is dumb, but not dumb enough to not sign the note with his name! Why send flowers to his wife without letting her know they were from him?! It was just a contrived way to have the stupid mix up and distracted me because I was thinking to myself "Van would've signed the damn note!" Ugh.
The side story was Reba and Brock playing online poker and not knowing they were communicating and playing with each other until the end when he revealed his name and location.
A shocked Reba immediately kills that online relationship by revealing her name to be "Kevin"---causing Brock to slam the laptop closed in horror. :lol:

Three great episodes, the one where Reba dated Desperate Housewives guy was the only one I didn't care for.
And I see Van & Cheyenne's marriage heading for the rocks...I wonder if this will be the season 4 cliffhanger to come? (BUT DON"T TELL ME PLEASE!!)

JO Sweet Heart
08-24-2020, 12:12 PM
I haven't got to the episode at the Karaoke place yet. It's probably coming up soon, but please don't tell any more since I don't want to be spoiled.

I agree Cheyenne was wrong to fill up Van's time with all those activities when he was home from Denver, but it was also Van's fault for just not saying "I'm tired" and explaining things to her. I think had she known, she would've backed off...not completely, but a little because she does seem a bit pushy and naggy. :lol:

I also liked when he told her that the picture of Cheyenne and the baby on the wall was all the apartment needed. I guess we won't be seeing the apartment anymore anyway now that he's off the team. I thought it was a cute little place before Cheyenne uglied it up with all that crap. :lol:
Van does say to Cheyenne at one point that he was tired. Its at the beginning of the show after he gets home. He goes upstairs only to come down a bit later and he is saying to Cheyenne that he is exhausted, but like always, you have to beat her over the head with a club for her to finally get whatever it is that you are trying to get through to her.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

Lorimar Television
08-24-2020, 09:41 PM
Now she's openly having the hots for her marriage counselor and defying Reba to date him? So freaking weird. Reba should have had sex with him right in front of her to show her she has no say in anything regarding her love life.....especially after what she did to her with Brock!

:eek::lol:

Yep we can see why Cheyenne was so stressed out which Jo doesn’t seem to understand. Van was spending all their money on nonsense thinking it will never run out while Cheyenne is putting all the pressure on herself to finish school.

Van does say to Cheyenne at one point that he was tired. Its at the beginning of the show after he gets home. He goes upstairs only to come down a bit later and he is saying to Cheyenne that he is exhausted, but like always, you have to beat her over the head with a club for her to finally get whatever it is that you are trying to get through to her.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

He said it one time in a humorous way that she prob didn’t take it seriously. He shoulda just said no I’m going to sleep we’ll do something later.

cfr1970
08-25-2020, 01:37 AM
:eek::lol:

Yep we can see why Cheyenne was so stressed out which Jo doesn’t seem to understand. Van was spending all their money on nonsense thinking it will never run out while Cheyenne is putting all the pressure on herself to finish school.

They're both going through their own struggles but are doing it separately instead of together. When Cheyenne tried to get Van to open up to how he's feeling he couldn't even say anything more then "Empty".

I know they went for laughs with that, but is this character really that childish and shallow mentally?! To not be able to open up your feelings to your wife with more than one word is a serious problem.

Cheyenne is trying, but Van is a perpetual 8 year old boy mentally. The writers keep writing him this way and when you do that, there's no character development or progression. I'm really close to calling him a total idiot. Geez, Rose Nylund is more intelligent than this guy. :lol:

One thing I can say for certain is these two got married to quick and too soon and we know it was just because of the baby. Sure they loved each other, but if it weren't for Elizabeth, they would've dated and eventually broken up and gone their separate ways.

I'm curious to see how the series ends with them. (PLEASE DON'T TELL ME!! ). If this show were still on and in the middle of the run, i'd predict a divorce looming ahead. But since the series is long finished, I wonder which way the story went with them. I just don't see these two being compatible for life.
Cheyenne seems to be going her separate way with school and that playdate guy was a sign that she wishes she were able to date. I'm looking forward to see how this show ends.


He said it one time in a humorous way that she prob didn’t take it seriously. He shoulda just said no I’m going to sleep we’ll do something later.

I agree. He's like a child and Cheyenne is his mother rather than his wife. :lol:

I'd like to see Van mature as the series progresses, but he never does. In fact, he only appears more immature as the show goes on.

And speaking of not growing....that young kid (I forgot his name so i'll call him the DJ clone from Roseanne :lol:)....it's the 4th season and he never seems to grow! He's still the same size kid he was in the first season. Does he stay this size till the end?!
By the 4th season even DJ began shooting up in height over on Roseanne. This kid just never changes. :eek:

Lorimar Television
08-25-2020, 06:37 PM
I think s4 is testing their marriage for sure.

The youngest is Jake, he is definitely older if you rewatch s1 you will see a big difference. He will finally have some storylines soon.

JO Sweet Heart
08-25-2020, 07:08 PM
:eek::lol:Yep we can see why Cheyenne was so stressed out which Jo doesn’t seem to understand. Van was spending all their money on nonsense thinking it will never run out while Cheyenne is putting all the pressure on herself to finish school.
While I agree that Van should've included Cheyenne more when making his decision about Denver was concerned, but actually Cheyenne was no different compared to Van when his settlement money was first given to him. At one point she was at the kitchen table asking her mom which vehicle went better with her eyes from the two pictures that she held up to each side of her face.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. Van going to Denver in my opinion though was the right thing to do because it only meant more money for them and Elizabeth and he remained true to his word about coming home as much as he could. Staying in Houston only would've made him wonder anyway what would've happened if he had gone to Denver instead. Now we know and if his spine issue had been discovered after making the decision to stay in Houston, his settlement money may not have been as much as he ended up getting by going to Denver, money that could not only go towards them getting a house, but also getting the rest of Cheyenne's college education paid for.

Lorimar Television
08-25-2020, 11:44 PM
It may have been the right thing to do but deciding it all without even talking about it with your wife is a recipe for disaster. He was dumb to do that

cfr1970
08-26-2020, 12:47 AM
I think s4 is testing their marriage for sure.

The youngest is Jake, he is definitely older if you rewatch s1 you will see a big difference. He will finally have some storylines soon.

I can't believe I forgot his name. :lol:

He always just squeaks out a couple of lines and then quickly runs out of the room or up the stairs. Maybe if I pop in season 1 i'd see the difference, but it struck me the other night when I was watching that he doesn't seem to grow and it's been over 3 years where i'm at in the show.

I'll finish season 4 this weekend and then onto season 5...I really don't want to finish it because i'm enjoying the series. I wish it lasted a few more seasons so I have more to watch.

BTW why was it cancelled? Usually sitcoms run for 8+ years and this only went 6. Seems strange it didn't go on longer because it's a good show. Was it low ratings that killed it?

cfr1970
08-26-2020, 12:52 AM
While I agree that Van should've included Cheyenne more when making his decision about Denver was concerned, but actually Cheyenne was no different compared to Van when his settlement money was first given to him. At one point she was at the kitchen table asking her mom which vehicle went better with her eyes from the two pictures that she held up to each side of her face.

And she's a hypocrite for that because remember how she scolded Van when he bought his car and preached about saving money and not spending it on expensive things? Now here she was shopping for cars that match her eyes. :lol:

Lorimar Television
08-26-2020, 01:48 AM
BTW why was it cancelled? Usually sitcoms run for 8+ years and this only went 6. Seems strange it didn't go on longer because it's a good show. Was it low ratings that killed it?

No the network it was on, The WB, was discontinued after season 5 of Reba. The new network didn’t want reba on its schedule and basically cancelled Reba. They only renewed last min for s6 because they had been renewed for two more seasons prior and they would have to pay them if they cancelled it. I won’t spoil anything but the s5 finale was originally a cliffhanger that they edit out cuz they weren’t sure if that was going to be the series finale. Season 6 was the highest rated comedy on the new CW but they still cancelled it anyway.

JO Sweet Heart
08-26-2020, 03:02 PM
And she's a hypocrite for that because remember how she scolded Van when he bought his car and preached about saving money and not spending it on expensive things? Now here she was shopping for cars that match her eyes. :lol:
Exactly.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

cfr1970
08-26-2020, 03:47 PM
No the network it was on, The WB, was discontinued after season 5 of Reba. The new network didn’t want reba on its schedule and basically cancelled Reba. They only renewed last min for s6 because they had been renewed for two more seasons prior and they would have to pay them if they cancelled it. I won’t spoil anything but the s5 finale was originally a cliffhanger that they edit out cuz they weren’t sure if that was going to be the series finale. Season 6 was the highest rated comedy on the new CW but they still cancelled it anyway.

It's a shame another network didn't pick it up after CW cancelled it. Though i'm only on season 4 so I can't really form an opinion until I see the end of the series. Maybe i'll think it was time to fold up tent when I get to it, but so far it hasn't gotten stale yet.
Who knows? By the time I get to season 6 I may be saying "Oh God end it!" :lol:

Lorimar Television
08-26-2020, 06:20 PM
It's a shame another network didn't pick it up after CW cancelled it. Though i'm only on season 4 so I can't really form an opinion until I see the end of the series. Maybe i'll think it was time to fold up tent when I get to it, but so far it hasn't gotten stale yet.
Who knows? By the time I get to season 6 I may be saying "Oh God end it!" :lol:

Haha maybe, but most fans think it still was good

JO Sweet Heart
08-27-2020, 06:15 PM
To me, the show deserved a full sixth season if it couldn't get anymore after that.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

cfr1970
08-28-2020, 04:03 PM
I saw the Reba Complete Series today in Walmart for just $29.96!! I was shocked!! :eek:

On Amazon it's going for $59.99 so when I bought my copies, I ordered them from E bay and got 3 seasons used and the others new and paid in total $36.87 which isn't that bad either since it comes out to just $6.14/season.

But I wish I saw this $29 copy at Walmart before I bought mine because it would've been nice to have the whole series in one neat little case, not to mention the 7 bucks I would've saved.

Christopher
08-29-2020, 02:09 PM
Haha maybe, but most fans think it still was good

I didn't. Season 6 is my least favorite because they repeated a story that was done to death previous seasons. I would have preferred they made the main story of season 6 a follow up to the season 5 finale. I'm glad it ended when it did since they didn't have a lot of creativity that last season.

Lorimar Television
08-29-2020, 07:47 PM
I didn't. Season 6 is my least favorite because they repeated a story that was done to death previous seasons. I would have preferred they made the main story of season 6 a follow up to the season 5 finale. I'm glad it ended when it did since they didn't have a lot of creativity that last season.

Hmm interesting. I enjoy s6 but I get what u mean. They needed some tension to close out the show tho

cfr1970
08-30-2020, 01:32 AM
Watched 3 episodes tonight. Was supposed to watch 4 but got behind on things. :(

1. "Who Killed Brock?"----It was ok, but definitely not a favorite. I think the whole story was silly and a little boring and the ending seen coming a mile away and a little too abrupt.
I did make notice how Reba & Cheyenne both referred to BJ's dog as an "it" while Van & BJ referred the dog as "she". We know who the animal lovers and haters here are. :lol:

2. "The Pageant of Grandmas"----I hated BJ in this one. Oh my God what a selfish bitch she was going on and on how she wanted to be in the pageant and win it.
Jake wanted his Mom to be in the pageant and Cheyenne even said it was his idea to even have the pageant just so Reba can be in it because he thought she was the prettiest Grandma.
I get that BJ probably wasn't aware of this, but Reba did mention to her how Jake wanted this without going into specifics. Bj should've put the child's needs before her own.
She acted silly, immature and selfish and I wanted so bad for Reba to tell her this was for the child and not her. Grow the hell up!
Yes, Jake did wind up saying he wanted BJ in it but it doesn't matter to me because he originally wanted Reba and the whole idea was made with Reba in mind. And selfish BJ stole that.
She really grated on my nerves in this one that I have to use valentina's hammer on her. :bash::bash::bash::bash:

3. "Reba's Rules of Real Estate"----This was a good one and I like Dolly Parton--but that woman's plastic surgery is a big distraction for me. I just couldn't take my eyes off her face and feel pity on what she did to it.
I mean, she's not hideous---but she's not natural either. She looks like a living wax figure and it was hard to stay in the story wondering all the work she did to it. :lol:
I'm surprised she didn't sing and would've liked to have seen her play a singer in a bar or something. Maybe the singer in Reba didn't want to be upstaged on her own show? :lol:

The final 4 episodes of the season I watch tomorrow!! I can't believe next weekend is season 5 already. This is why I like to only watch on weekends----to make it last longer. :):wave:

Lorimar Television
08-30-2020, 04:17 AM
She really grated on my nerves in this one that I have to use valentina's hammer on her. :bash::bash::bash::bash:


:rofl: Agreed, BJ was very rude to Reba. Glad you enjoyed the ep. WKB was a fun ep I thought, kinda like when they made the video tape for Elizabeth.

Christopher
08-30-2020, 09:05 AM
The final 4 episodes of the season I watch tomorrow!! I can't believe next weekend is season 5 already. This is why I like to only watch on weekends----to make it last longer. :):wave:

I'm curious to see what you think of season 5 after you're finished. For me, that's when the show really starts losing ideas for stories. I like seasons 1 - 3 the most of this series with season 2 being the best. There's so many fun episodes in season 2. It was hard for the show to top that one.

Hmm interesting. I enjoy s6 but I get what u mean. They needed some tension to close out the show tho

When cfr is done with season 6 or gets to the point of what I'm talking about, I'll respond more on this. I know he hates spoilers so I'm holding back the best I can :lol: :p

cfr1970
08-30-2020, 10:59 AM
:rofl: Agreed, BJ was very rude to Reba. Glad you enjoyed the ep. WKB was a fun ep I thought, kinda like when they made the video tape for Elizabeth.

The videotape one I liked. Maybe because it seemed like a rehash of that episode it bored me. And I saw that Jake had the dog a mile away.

I usually like BJ (except when she acts like a complete buffoon). She really should've put the child's feelings before her own and this only made her look immature and selfish. The woman is in her 30's and acts like she's 13. I know it's a sitcom, but she's a sad character and seems to be regressing rather than growing.

cfr1970
08-30-2020, 11:11 AM
I'm curious to see what you think of season 5 after you're finished. For me, that's when the show really starts losing ideas for stories. I like seasons 1 - 3 the most of this series with season 2 being the best. There's so many fun episodes in season 2. It was hard for the show to top that one.

Now i'm kind of dreading season 5. I think seasons 1-3 were great also but felt the split with Brock & BJ at the beginning of season 4 signaled the downfall. But it picked up after that story resolved with more good episodes and got back on track.
I know there's something to do with Cheyenne and alcohol coming and i'm curious to see what happens there. If they take a heavy dramatic route next season, i'm conflicted about that.
On one hand, I love dramatic episodes, but on the other Reba isn't that kind of show imo. It's light and happy. So if they get too heavy handed with that, I may not enjoy it. Next week I start season 5 so i'll know soon enough.




When cfr is done with season 6 or gets to the point of what I'm talking about, I'll respond more on this. I know he hates spoilers so I'm holding back the best I can :lol: :p

You can start a new thread and title it "Spoiler Talk" so this way you guys can talk about anything without having to wait until i'm done watching. Also, other newbies of the show will know off the bat to veer away from the thread.
I won't finish the series for another month, and I don't want to keep anyone from discussing things till then! :)

Christopher
08-30-2020, 02:28 PM
Don’t dread the upcoming episodes. You may end up liking them. I just don’t find them as strong as the early seasons. Cheyenne’s drinking is a good story. Van is my favorite part of it.

cfr1970
08-30-2020, 06:10 PM
Don’t dread the upcoming episodes. You may end up liking them. I just don’t find them as strong as the early seasons. Cheyenne’s drinking is a good story. Van is my favorite part of it.

Just watched "Driving Miss Kyra" and really liked it. When Reba found out Cheyenne was at a martini bar I thought this was the start of her drinking problem, but she was just doing bad karaoke to get out of her rut. :lol:

I heard earlier in this thread Reba sings 9 to 5 and this was the episode, but I wish she had sang the whole thing instead of a bitty part of it.

The end scene was funny when Van & Cheyenne sang in the living room and Reba brought down the divider to the kitchen.

I flipped over the disc for the last 3 episodes to watch later and see the finale is titled "Hello, my name is Cheyenne"....I guess she's already in AA by then? Damn that's quick!! :eek:

Lorimar Television
08-30-2020, 09:28 PM
Now i'm kind of dreading season 5. I think seasons 1-3 were great also but felt the split with Brock & BJ at the beginning of season 4 signaled the downfall. But it picked up after that story resolved with more good episodes and got back on track.
I know there's something to do with Cheyenne and alcohol coming and i'm curious to see what happens there. If they take a heavy dramatic route next season, i'm conflicted about that.
On one hand, I love dramatic episodes, but on the other Reba isn't that kind of show imo. It's light and happy. So if they get too heavy handed with that, I may not enjoy it. Next week I start season 5 so i'll know soon enough.



You can start a new thread and title it "Spoiler Talk" so this way you guys can talk about anything without having to wait until i'm done watching. Also, other newbies of the show will know off the bat to veer away from the thread.
I won't finish the series for another month, and I don't want to keep anyone from discussing things till then! :)

Don’t dread s5! I find s5 way better than S4 but s6 is better than both. It’s nowhere near FOL levels of shark jump. I’m fact Idt it jumps what so eve. S5 is great, and better than s4.

cfr1970
08-30-2020, 10:20 PM
Don’t dread s5! I find s5 way better than S4 but s6 is better than both. It’s nowhere near FOL levels of shark jump. I’m fact Idt it jumps what so eve. S5 is great, and better than s4.

I just finished season 4.

Go Far---Jake playing football. Now I see why they always have that kid just run upstairs to his room after saying a few lines. I was bored with this one. Best to leave that kid in the background. :lol:

Help Wanted---Van works for Reba as her assistant was good. A fun episode, but not a standout. Then the end comes out of nowhere when Reba finds an empty liquor bottle suspecting it's his....but it's Cheyenne's! :eek:

"Hello, My Name is Cheyenne"---Ok, I have to be honest and say this was a terrible episode. So much cringe!! For one, having Van actually GO to an AA meeting to appease Reba when he's covering for Cheyenne was silly.
And how everyone crowded at BJ's for drinks so Cheyenne couldn't see them almost seemed like they were mocking the whole issue. It was weird and so cringy.
Now to Cheyenne....she has ONE bottle of Schnapps (LOL) that took 2 months to finish.....and she's an alcoholic?! GMAB!!
Then the final scene where she pours herself a glass of wine and tells Reba when she drinks did NOT sound like an alcoholic to me. It sounded like a normal adult who had a couple of drinks now and then to calm down with all the stress of school and being a mom and Van moving to Denver.

And NO ONE has seen her drunk. She was at a martini bar a few episodes earlier stone sober. To do this type of story successfully, you need a few episodes to build it up. A half season story arc that cumulated in the season finale would've been much more effective storytelling for a subject like this.

As it was, it felt like a tacked on finale just to have a cliffhanger and imo it failed miserably. Alcoholism is a serious subject and should be treated as such. I feel Reba treated it in a mocking and frivolous manner.

I bet in the season 5 opener they'll have Cheyenne finished with her 12 step program and we'll never hear about it again. I hope you're right Lorimar and season 5 is better.

I hated the beginning and end of this season. The opener with Brock/BJ fighting and closing with the fake drinking problem. This show fails when they try going too deep and should stick to the lighthearted fare imo.

Oh well---i'll start season 5 next Saturday. :wave:

cfr1970
08-30-2020, 10:28 PM
Don’t dread the upcoming episodes. You may end up liking them. I just don’t find them as strong as the early seasons. Cheyenne’s drinking is a good story. Van is my favorite part of it.

So it does continue into season 5? Her drinking came out of nowhere and Schnapps is the weakest liquor you can drink. It all came across silly to me.

When you say Van is your favorite part of it, do you mean where he went to the AA meeting by himself to cover for her? I thought it was so silly that he would actually go to one when he didn't have a problem.

To make this story work, we needed to see Cheyenne slipping drinks for a few episodes, and be drunk around the family. I don't expect a Lifetime movie of the week, but more time was needed to build up this kind of story imo.

It will be interesting to see if this becomes a whole story arc in the next season...but damn....it all just came out of nowhere.

Lorimar Television
08-30-2020, 11:09 PM
So it does continue into season 5? Her drinking came out of nowhere and Schnapps is the weakest liquor you can drink. It all came across silly to me.

When you say Van is your favorite part of it, do you mean where he went to the AA meeting by himself to cover for her? I thought it was so silly that he would actually go to one when he didn't have a problem.

To make this story work, we needed to see Cheyenne slipping drinks for a few episodes, and be drunk around the family. I don't expect a Lifetime movie of the week, but more time was needed to build up this kind of story imo.

It will be interesting to see if this becomes a whole story arc in the next season...but damn....it all just came out of nowhere.

The point of the arc is to show people can be alcoholics even if it doesn’t seem like it. Cheyenne will continue her process through all of season 5 and go through a lot of development. Her most significant in the series. I see why you think it came outta nowhere but you saw the hints. Think about it, lots of Eps ending on Cheyenne looking helpless and sad. Her husband left her for Denver and kept ignoring her. Her struggle when he gets injured and him not wanting to talk about it. Her issues actually do make sense if you pay attention. No offense to Christopher but he also thinks Sue Ann is a bad char in s1 so his opinions don’t hold much weight :happyface (kidding Christopher haha just had to bust your balls a bit ;) )

cfr1970
08-31-2020, 12:46 AM
The point of the arc is to show people can be alcoholics even if it doesn’t seem like it. Cheyenne will continue her process through all of season 5 and go through a lot of development. Her most significant in the series. I see why you think it came outta nowhere but you saw the hints. Think about it, lots of Eps ending on Cheyenne looking helpless and sad. Her husband left her for Denver and kept ignoring her. Her struggle when he gets injured and him not wanting to talk about it. Her issues actually do make sense if you pay attention. No offense to Christopher but he also thinks Sue Ann is a bad char in s1 so his opinions don’t hold much weight :happyface (kidding Christopher haha just had to bust your balls a bit ;) )

I'll keep an open mind as I go into season 5 and I get that she's been through a lot this season, but I wish they had gone more in depth with the storytelling.

As it was told in the finale, Cheyenne took 2 months to finish a bottle of Schnapps. Reba found her in the Martini Bar doing Karaoke, yet she clearly wasn't drinking.
From what she told Reba, she really was just having a couple of glasses here and there to ease her stress. (btw the exact same was shown as Reba and the gang was in BJ's house but perfectly normal behavior for them.)

Her character wasn't being depicted as a problem drinker. People who drink to the point where it's a problem is always noticeable to others. Here she is having a couple of glasses here and there and she's shipped off to AA meetings.

It was poor storytelling imo and needed to be unfolded more gradually and it should've been a bottle of Scotch or Vodka in her closet rather than Schnapps for heavens sake. :lol:

If they wanted to convey the character as an alcoholic, they should have written her as one. Two months to finish a bottle of Schnapps doesn't warrant a trip to AA meetings.

Also, she's been doing well in school, driving herself back and forth with no issue and taking care of her child as well. A couple of drinks here and there is perfectly normal.

They should've had her stumble home drunk one day to show that her drinking has escalated to the point of being a problem but they didn't...so it comes off as a tacked on at the last minute season finale just to have a dramatic cliffhanger and a story as serious as that deserves more in depth and gradual unfolding.

Granted, it's a light hearted and bubbleheaded sitcom so I perhaps i'm expecting too much from it. On the other hand, I think they're out of their league with such a heavy handed story.

But I will keep an open mind for next season---though I have to admit, part of me is dreading it because I have a feeling this story is going to annoy the hell out of me. :lol:

Lorimar Television
08-31-2020, 01:14 AM
Dont worry, its not the biggest arc of the season. S5 has a lot of great storylines you should enjoy. Better than s4s imo.

Christopher
08-31-2020, 09:03 AM
"Hello, My Name is Cheyenne"---Ok, I have to be honest and say this was a terrible episode. So much cringe!! For one, having Van actually GO to an AA meeting to appease Reba when he's covering for Cheyenne was silly.
And how everyone crowded at BJ's for drinks so Cheyenne couldn't see them almost seemed like they were mocking the whole issue. It was weird and so cringy.
Now to Cheyenne....she has ONE bottle of Schnapps (LOL) that took 2 months to finish.....and she's an alcoholic?! GMAB!!
Then the final scene where she pours herself a glass of wine and tells Reba when she drinks did NOT sound like an alcoholic to me. It sounded like a normal adult who had a couple of drinks now and then to calm down with all the stress of school and being a mom and Van moving to Denver.

And NO ONE has seen her drunk. She was at a martini bar a few episodes earlier stone sober. To do this type of story successfully, you need a few episodes to build it up. A half season story arc that cumulated in the season finale would've been much more effective storytelling for a subject like this.

As it was, it felt like a tacked on finale just to have a cliffhanger and imo it failed miserably. Alcoholism is a serious subject and should be treated as such. I feel Reba treated it in a mocking and frivolous manner.

I bet in the season 5 opener they'll have Cheyenne finished with her 12 step program and we'll never hear about it again. I hope you're right Lorimar and season 5 is better.

I hated the beginning and end of this season. The opener with Brock/BJ fighting and closing with the fake drinking problem. This show fails when they try going too deep and should stick to the lighthearted fare imo.

Oh well---i'll start season 5 next Saturday. :wave:

Did you at least get a few good laughs from Van in this episode? He was my favorite part. When he gave Reba the cup of vinegar to drink, I laughed out loud. Then they give it to BJ saying it's coffee :lol:

Did you ever watch Bree's alcohol storyline on Desperate Housewives or remember Alison's drinking storyline on Melrose Place? I think we're used to shows doing alcoholism to the extreme like that and forget that there's also quiet ways a person can become an alcoholic. It would have been nice to see more of the effects the alcohol had on her than just the one time she skipped class to go to a bar and then having an empty bottle in the closet.

When you say Van is your favorite part of it, do you mean where he went to the AA meeting by himself to cover for her? I thought it was so silly that he would actually go to one when he didn't have a problem.

To make this story work, we needed to see Cheyenne slipping drinks for a few episodes, and be drunk around the family. I don't expect a Lifetime movie of the week, but more time was needed to build up this kind of story imo.

It will be interesting to see if this becomes a whole story arc in the next season...but damn....it all just came out of nowhere.

No, it wasn't the AA meeting. In that episode it was the vinegar he had Reba drink and then announcing he's getting a beer when Cheyenne comes in saying she's an alcoholic. In the season 5 opener, he's also hilarious at the end. You'll see what I mean.

But I will keep an open mind for next season---though I have to admit, part of me is dreading it because I have a feeling this story is going to annoy the hell out of me. :lol:

This is too good of a quote to not say "don't have all your dreading on that story because there's another one coming that will take that instead" :D :lol:

Don’t dread s5! I find s5 way better than S4 but s6 is better than both. It’s nowhere near FOL levels of shark jump. I’m fact Idt it jumps what so eve. S5 is great, and better than s4.

Wow, really? You think season 6 is better? Maybe we need a new thread to discuss this :lol: Just kidding. I can wait until cfr is done watching it so we can all discuss at once :) He's only got 35 episodes left to watch of the series. That'll go by fast.

cfr1970
08-31-2020, 10:46 AM
Did you at least get a few good laughs from Van in this episode? He was my favorite part. When he gave Reba the cup of vinegar to drink, I laughed out loud. Then they give it to BJ saying it's coffee :lol:

Yeah that was funny. It was a mix of prune juice and vinegar. (I can only imagine how gross that tastes!) It was funny how BJ kept on drinking the crap to not insult her idol Reba. :lol:

Did you ever watch Bree's alcohol storyline on Desperate Housewives or remember Alison's drinking storyline on Melrose Place? I think we're used to shows doing alcoholism to the extreme like that and forget that there's also quiet ways a person can become an alcoholic. It would have been nice to see more of the effects the alcohol had on her than just the one time she skipped class to go to a bar and then having an empty bottle in the closet.

I tuned out of Desperate Housewives before that story began but I did see Alison's drinking on Melrose. They showed her drunk and how her drinking was causing problems which concerned others around her. (Was this before or after Kimberly blew up the building? I think her injuries from that caused her drinking as well?)
To make Cheyenne's story to work, I think we needed a couple of episodes where we saw how her escalated drinking was affecting her life and those around her.
She could've left Elizabeth at the store or something to cause people around her to see how far it went. All the audience got was one bottle of Schnapps that took 2 months to finish. It's absurd to call that an alcoholic. :lol:


No, it wasn't the AA meeting. In that episode it was the vinegar he had Reba drink and then announcing he's getting a beer when Cheyenne comes in saying she's an alcoholic. In the season 5 opener, he's also hilarious at the end. You'll see what I mean.
This is too good of a quote to not say "don't have all your dreading on that story because there's another one coming that will take that instead" :D :lol:

I start season 5 this Saturday, and with Lorimar saying it's great and you saying it's not, i'm looking forward to how i'll feel about it. I'd hate for the show to go out on a creative slump, but I can already see cracks in the foundation. But I guess it happens to almost all sitcoms after a few seasons.
Even my favorite ones have creative slumps by the 5th season so it's probably to be expected.

Wow, really? You think season 6 is better? Maybe we need a new thread to discuss this :lol: Just kidding. I can wait until cfr is done watching it so we can all discuss at once :) He's only got 35 episodes left to watch of the series. That'll go by fast.

I should finish Reba by Sunday 10/4---then will have to find a new series to watch Saturday nights. I bought season 1 of Rhoda which I never saw so i'll probably start that one the following weekend.

Christopher
08-31-2020, 01:34 PM
I heard season 1 of Rhoda is syndicated cuts. The following are uncut. I think a show you all should watch is Desperate Housewives :D cfr, you missed out on some of the great stories for that show. Season 2 got really dark and twisted for Bree. Season 8 is my favorite because it’s dark, suspenseful, and most of all Bree is the center of attention :lol: It’s very similar to The Facts of Life or The Golden Girls about a bunch of women friends going through life. They also have great guest stars for the story arcs. Dixie Carter was on the season 3 mystery arc and did a superb job as the villain. I’m just throwing it out there, it’s a funny dramedy with a great cast :)

Alison became a drunk before Kimberly blew up the apartment complex. Her drinking started after Keith but no one noticed. It gradually escalated to season 3 when she blew off Jo’s custody hearing because of the guy she was running around with. They got her sober in the middle of season 3, but she fell off the wagon over Billy and Brooke getting married. That’s when she was drunk at the end of the season getting blinded by the explosion. That season was so adventurous with all these turns. Sydney joining the cult with former porn star Traci Lords gets an honorable nod from me as well :)

But back to what I was saying, people can become alcoholics in different ways. I think Reba was showing us the uncommon quiet way a person can become dependent on alcohol.

cfr1970
08-31-2020, 04:25 PM
I heard season 1 of Rhoda is syndicated cuts. The following are uncut. I think a show you all should watch is Desperate Housewives :D cfr, you missed out on some of the great stories for that show. Season 2 got really dark and twisted for Bree. Season 8 is my favorite because it’s dark, suspenseful, and most of all Bree is the center of attention :lol: It’s very similar to The Facts of Life or The Golden Girls about a bunch of women friends going through life. They also have great guest stars for the story arcs. Dixie Carter was on the season 3 mystery arc and did a superb job as the villain. I’m just throwing it out there, it’s a funny dramedy with a great cast :)

I tuned out of DH after season 2 but would check in here and there and saw bits of Dixie Carter because I like her. But for the most part, all I know is the first season of that show.
I tuned in because of Marcia Cross and I think the first season was good, but then I became bored and tuned out. It didn't help that the only one I liked of those women was Marcia Cross---those other 3 I never warmed up to.
And after hearing about Felicity Huffman and the college scandal, i'm not too thrilled at the thought of having her on my TV screen. I despise people like that but that's for another forum altogether. :lol:
That said, I won't rule out not giving the show a try sometime in the future.



Alison became a drunk before Kimberly blew up the apartment complex. Her drinking started after Keith but no one noticed. It gradually escalated to season 3 when she blew off Jo’s custody hearing because of the guy she was running around with. They got her sober in the middle of season 3, but she fell off the wagon over Billy and Brooke getting married. That’s when she was drunk at the end of the season getting blinded by the explosion. That season was so adventurous with all these turns. Sydney joining the cult with former porn star Traci Lords gets an honorable nod from me as well :)

It's over 25 years ago, but I clearly remember that scene where Alison was drunk and missed Jo's custody hearing and it caused her to lose the child. I remember when Jo ripped into her for that and how terrible Alison felt about it. Her alcoholism story line was really great and it unfolded and evolved nicely. I know Reba is only a half hour sitcom, but I wish Cheyenne would've been shown to the audience as having a problem with minor signs shown here and there rather than having it all dropped in our laps at once.

And the whole cult story of MP was another favorite. That whole season was the high peak of the series imo.

But back to what I was saying, people can become alcoholics in different ways. I think Reba was showing us the uncommon quiet way a person can become dependent on alcohol.

I agree with that, but they didn't portray Cheyenne as being a person with a dependency and that's the writer's fault. Cheyenne clearly said to Van it took her 2 months to finish off a bottle of Schnapps, which is like the weakest liquor. That hardly qualifies as a dependency imo.

If Reba found more than 1 bottle in the closet then it would've given more credence to the story. I understand dependency is a gradual thing that starts slow and escalates over time.

One bottle of Schnapps and everyone is ready to ship her off to AA. It was almost laughable. I love the show, but they dropped the ball in telling this story imo.

Now if she falls off the wagon in season 5 and has episodes of drunkenness that begins to affect her life, then i'll buy it more. But if season 5 opens with her just being in AA and staying sober then it's all laughable to me because we never saw the character with a real drinking problem.

I'm not saying any of this without experience. Back in my 30's I would down a 1.75 liter of vodka in just 2 days! And then go back for more! And that went on for at least a couple of years before I got through the personal crisis that was leading me to do that. So I know a little about alcohol dependency.

I think Reba dropped the ball on this story and as I stated earlier, it feels like it was just tacked on to have a dramatic season finale rather than wanting to tell a story about drinking.

I won't hold it against the show and just chalk it up to a creative slump.

Lorimar Television
08-31-2020, 06:58 PM
The schnapps was her excuse though, she claims it was just schnapps but at the end we can deduce it was more than just that. Ik you wanted to see her drunk like at the end of Girls Night Out in s3 though.

Wow, really? You think season 6 is better? Maybe we need a new thread to discuss this :lol: Just kidding. I can wait until cfr is done watching it so we can all discuss at once :) He's only got 35 episodes left to watch of the series. That'll go by fast.

I do! I think s6 has storylines a show can only have in its final season or it would mess the plot too much to stretch the series longer. BJ sees alot of growth in s6 for instance. But still wanna keep it vague for cfr lol.

Christopher
09-01-2020, 09:06 AM
I do! I think s6 has storylines a show can only have in its final season or it would mess the plot too much to stretch the series longer. BJ sees alot of growth in s6 for instance. But still wanna keep it vague for cfr lol.

Yeah BJ is one of the things I want to discuss when cfr is finished with season 6.

I tuned out of DH after season 2 but would check in here and there and saw bits of Dixie Carter because I like her. But for the most part, all I know is the first season of that show.
I tuned in because of Marcia Cross and I think the first season was good, but then I became bored and tuned out. It didn't help that the only one I liked of those women was Marcia Cross---those other 3 I never warmed up to.
And after hearing about Felicity Huffman and the college scandal, i'm not too thrilled at the thought of having her on my TV screen. I despise people like that but that's for another forum altogether. :lol:
That said, I won't rule out not giving the show a try sometime in the future.

Did you stay long enough in season 2 to see the George story end or Carol Burnett making an appearance as Bree's mother in law? Season 2 was mainly focused on Bree and that's why I like it more than season 1. Marcia Cross is the reason I stuck with the show because she was brilliant as Bree. I didn't care for season 5. Of all 8 seasons, that is the season where the women are so different than how we saw them. It was boring. Her character in the remaining seasons was solid. In season 8, another Bree season, it's just so fast pace and jam packed with excitement. I was sad to see the show end but it went out showing they can still entertain viewers with good material.

One thing about Felicity Huffman though is she took responsibility unlike Lori from Full House. Felicity owned her mistake and didn't fight prison time. Lori was a selfish coward who tried fighting it every time. This is why Felicity's actions don't ruin my rewatch of Desperate Housewives. She knew she screwed up. I hope that kind of helps with your decision on watching it again since you despise those kind of people :)




It's over 25 years ago, but I clearly remember that scene where Alison was drunk and missed Jo's custody hearing and it caused her to lose the child. I remember when Jo ripped into her for that and how terrible Alison felt about it. Her alcoholism story line was really great and it unfolded and evolved nicely. I know Reba is only a half hour sitcom, but I wish Cheyenne would've been shown to the audience as having a problem with minor signs shown here and there rather than having it all dropped in our laps at once.

And the whole cult story of MP was another favorite. That whole season was the high peak of the series imo.

Yay, 25 years ago we're acknowledging here :lol: :violin:

Alison wasn't a favorite of mine because she was so damn obsessed over Billy and trying to be a goody two shoes all the time. Her story in the first half of season 3 was really good. I also liked her with Hayley, Brooke's father, in season 4.

Most alcoholics start in silence though. Alison's drinking on Melrose Place started after Keith but no one paid attention. She would come in and pour a glass of vodka every time something went wrong in her life. Cheyenne may have done the same thing only not telling anyone about it. In that finale, Cheyenne told Reba she's really good about being an alcoholic because she could keep the drinking from everyone knowing. This established Cheyenne was dishonest and sneaky to everyone that season.



I agree with that, but they didn't portray Cheyenne as being a person with a dependency and that's the writer's fault. Cheyenne clearly said to Van it took her 2 months to finish off a bottle of Schnapps, which is like the weakest liquor. That hardly qualifies as a dependency imo.

If Reba found more than 1 bottle in the closet then it would've given more credence to the story. I understand dependency is a gradual thing that starts slow and escalates over time.

One bottle of Schnapps and everyone is ready to ship her off to AA. It was almost laughable. I love the show, but they dropped the ball in telling this story imo.

Now if she falls off the wagon in season 5 and has episodes of drunkenness that begins to affect her life, then i'll buy it more. But if season 5 opens with her just being in AA and staying sober then it's all laughable to me because we never saw the character with a real drinking problem.

I'm not saying any of this without experience. Back in my 30's I would down a 1.75 liter of vodka in just 2 days! And then go back for more! And that went on for at least a couple of years before I got through the personal crisis that was leading me to do that. So I know a little about alcohol dependency.

I think Reba dropped the ball on this story and as I stated earlier, it feels like it was just tacked on to have a dramatic season finale rather than wanting to tell a story about drinking.

I won't hold it against the show and just chalk it up to a creative slump.

Yeah as you mentioned prior, Reba is a light hearted show so they didn't portray Cheyenne to those levels of alcoholism. If you watch Mom, another great series, you can see something like that though :lol: Mom really goes dark into those levels of addictions and the consequences of those choices.

cfr1970
09-01-2020, 11:16 AM
Did you stay long enough in season 2 to see the George story end or Carol Burnett making an appearance as Bree's mother in law? Season 2 was mainly focused on Bree and that's why I like it more than season 1. Marcia Cross is the reason I stuck with the show because she was brilliant as Bree. I didn't care for season 5. Of all 8 seasons, that is the season where the women are so different than how we saw them. It was boring. Her character in the remaining seasons was solid. In season 8, another Bree season, it's just so fast pace and jam packed with excitement. I was sad to see the show end but it went out showing they can still entertain viewers with good material.

I don't recall Carol Burnett being on that show so I must have tuned out by then. I know I watched the whole first season and afterwards would turn it on here and there. I too originally tuned into the show for Marcia Cross and liked her character.
I guess I just never cared much for the other 3 women and probably why I eventually tuned out. :lol:

One thing about Felicity Huffman though is she took responsibility unlike Lori from Full House. Felicity owned her mistake and didn't fight prison time. Lori was a selfish coward who tried fighting it every time. This is why Felicity's actions don't ruin my rewatch of Desperate Housewives. She knew she screwed up. I hope that kind of helps with your decision on watching it again since you despise those kind of people :)

What did she do, like a month in a Hollywood prison? Oh poor thing! :lol:

Her owning up to what she did doesn't impress me. IMO she knew what she was doing and using her clout to take advantage of the system while shortchanging others who could've been accepted to the school on merit.

People like that make me sick, and it will be a long time before I tune into the show because every time I see her face it will just remind me of it and anger me. Other people shouldn't have to pay because her daughter is too stupid to get accepted into college on merit. What she did speaks volumes about her both as a parent and a human being.


, 25 years ago we're acknowledging here :lol: :violin:
Alison wasn't a favorite of mine because she was so damn obsessed over Billy and trying to be a goody two shoes all the time. Her story in the first half of season 3 was really good. I also liked her with Hayley, Brooke's father, in season 4.
Most alcoholics start in silence though. Alison's drinking on Melrose Place started after Keith but no one paid attention. She would come in and pour a glass of vodka every time something went wrong in her life. Cheyenne may have done the same thing only not telling anyone about it. In that finale, Cheyenne told Reba she's really good about being an alcoholic because she could keep the drinking from everyone knowing. This established Cheyenne was dishonest and sneaky to everyone that season.

But it also establishes that her drinking was really a glass here and there and never to the point of being visibly drunk. IMO what she was doing was the same thing they all were doing in BJ's kitchen with the wine, only Cheyenne was doing it by herself.

I get they were trying to say she's a closet alcoholic, but the way they told it didn't compute with me. Had Cheyenne been tipsy at the Karaoke bar when Reba sang 9 to 5, then there's a sign showing beforehand that would make the audience believe the story. But she was stone cold sober...in a BAR!! :lol:

So to suddenly turn her into this alcoholic in the next episode is too strange. The whole storyline seemed rushed and done in haste in order to stick it in the finale and have a cliffhanger imo.


Yeah as you mentioned prior, Reba is a light hearted show so they didn't portray Cheyenne to those levels of alcoholism. If you watch Mom, another great series, you can see something like that though :lol: Mom really goes dark into those levels of addictions and the consequences of those choices.

See, Mom started off being a heavy handed show and why I loved it from the get go. It established itself as a dark comedy/drama from the start which is why those stories work much better than on lighthearted Reba. Reba doing it is like having Chrissy from Threes Company developing a drinking problem and hilarity ensues. :lol:

Mom's writing and acting is phenomenal but I tuned out after the 2nd season and by the time I was interested in tuning back in, I missed a whole lot and I hate jumping back into a show after missing big chunks especially sicne this is a show that has continuous story lines.

So I have to just wait now until the series is over and buy the complete series and do with that show what i'm doing with Reba. I think it's going into it's 8th season this fall if it comes back during the pandemic. So there will be a lot of episodes to keep me entertained....I just have to wait until they finish the series which will probably be a while since it's still a big hit I think.

cfr1970
09-05-2020, 11:18 PM
Was Barbara Jean pregnant in season 5? I'm on the second episode and she looks 9 months pregnant!! Was the actress pregnant when filming it? It looks so obvious. :confused:

And they made Cheyenne's bedroom closet the entryway to her bedroom. Why did they do that?! It used to be on the right side of the stage, now it's where the closet was.

cfr1970
09-06-2020, 01:26 AM
Watched the first 3 episodes of Season 5:

1. "Where There's Smoke"----Oh good lord what a silly and dumb episode. Not a good sign for a season opener....I see shark fins in the waters. :lol:
Cheyenne is in her 12 step program for taking 2 months to finish a bottle of Schnapps. :rolleyes: However, she admits that she stopped going because they "Cheyenne" her with a little bell to signal that she shut the hell up because she rambles on about shopping, fashion and American Idol while speaking to the alcoholics.

If this girl seriously had a drinking problem, she would NOT be doing that no matter how flaky she is. This really shows me the intelligence level of the writers and how inept they are at handling such a serious subject.

This whole story line is so absurd that I was glad to see it resolved and by episode 3 barely mentioned again. I knew it was just a tacked on season finale and wouldn't be seriously told in the following season.

But moving on to other atrocities. In place of her dropped AA meetings for her Schnapps addiction, Cheyenne decides that pills and smoking will help her craving for sweet, candy flavored liquor.

We actually see her light up and smoke...and not only her. They toss in a side story of Brock sensually inhaling his cigarette like it's giving him the best orgasm of his life. It's a stupid subplot because it makes it seem like he's just smoking because he sees his addictive daughter doing it.

So rather than help her...he goes to the corner store and buys a pack of puffs for himself. Nice! :rolleyes:

But this train wreck of an episode gets even worse if you can believe it! The pills Cheyenne takes are meant to make one "violently ill" if you drink alcohol after popping it. (Why on earth would anybody take such a thing?! Even if you don't plan to drink.....WHY?!)

Anyway....Reba goes through Cheyenne's purse and i'm already dreading a really bad Lucy-esque, scenery chewing debacle to occur after Reba swallows one.

Thankfully, we're avoided that hilarity ensuing....but Van, who knows about these pills....doesn't stop Reba from taking them! Reba comes home to prepare for an alcohol filled party for realtors and Van doesn't warn her what the pills are for because he doesn't want Reba to know Cheyenne's taking them.

So---he chooses instead to jeopardize Reba's health?! It's so stupid it's unbelievable!....AND it gets worse!....Yes, it really does!! :eek:

During the party, Van is such an imbecile that he starts taking Reba's drinks and downing them himself. At one point he chugs vodka straight from the bottle like it's water rather than pouring it out over the sink he's standing next to!

He admits earlier he downed Scotch...and we see him down red wine...and then a bottle of beer....that alone would make him super sick and pass out---yet he keeps going. I know from experience that you DON'T mix those kind of drinks together in an evening.

Then Reba finally gets her hands on a glass of wine and gets ready to give her speech/toast to her party. Neither Van or Cheyenne step forward to tell her the the danger of drinking it with the pill inside her and just stand there like idiots while she takes a swig!!

It's beyond belief that they would allow her to do this knowing the consequences with the pill in her system. It's almost evil that neither of them stop her and come clean.

Afterwards, Cheyenne tries to turn the whole thing into something Reba will laugh at later on. I don't think she will because it's too serious to be funny. What if her reaction brought her to the ER?! :eek:

I was glad when it was over...definitely without a doubt the absolute worst episode of the entire series. I hated it. :mad:

And why on earth did they change Cheyenne & Van's bedroom layout?! Turning the closet door into the entrance to the room is baffling as all hell. There has to be a logical reason for this change?! :confused:

2. "Reba and the One"---We're finally brought back to Earth and things back to normal in the next episode. I liked this one where Reba wants to get away from the house for some time to spend with herself under the guise of having a new boyfriend since BJ egged her on to this dating service Reba had no interest in. But it was a good cover to get away from all those clowns and have some needed downtime for herself. :lol:
It was a classic Reba episode and I enjoyed the end scene where everyone came to catch Reba with her "date" and hilarity ensued.
I'm noticing BJ is looking 9 months pregnant under the loose shawl she's wearing. I know she's a big gal, but it looks pretty obvious she's with child here...I'm thinking the actress was pregnant and it reminds me of the Nanny when the woman who played CC was pregnant, and they did nothing to hide it. :lol:

3. "As Is" ---I liked this one too and vaguely remember it from years ago in syndication. I like that Reba & Van are working together as realtors and Van in the end of this episode showed surprising clarity and maturity which is unlike him.
This is an example of the uneven writing. At times Van is dumber than Chrissy Snow and Rose Nylund combined, but others he's pretty intelligent. You can't go back and forth like this imo, because the inconsistency is distracting. I'm left thinking "When did Van grow a brain?!" :lol:

Kyra was startling to see. She looks shockingly anorexic in this episode that I literally gasped when they showed her sitting on the couch in the living room. She looked sick and they didn't show too much of her.
I'm wondering if the actress really was going through something like that because the change from season 4 is glaring. :eek:

And BJ sitting in the car for the whole episode pretty much confirms my pregnancy suspicions to hide her tummy. :lol:

I remember the whole bit with the computer voice in the car from when I watched it years ago, and it seems this was all they could come up with to have her shown only from the shoulders up.

So after an atrocious season opener, the next 2 episodes got the train back on track and the shark fins went back under the water....for now.

Will watch the next 4 episodes tomorrow night. :wave:

Lorimar Television
09-06-2020, 04:26 AM
Was Barbara Jean pregnant in season 5? I'm on the second episode and she looks 9 months pregnant!! Was the actress pregnant when filming it? It looks so obvious. :confused:

And they made Cheyenne's bedroom closet the entryway to her bedroom. Why did they do that?! It used to be on the right side of the stage, now it's where the closet was.

Yes Melissa is pregnant in the beginning of s5.

I have no idea why they switched the entrance but that was the last ep that shows their bedroom anyway.

Lorimar Television
09-06-2020, 04:32 AM
So after an atrocious season opener, the next 2 episodes got the train back on track and the shark fins went back under the water....for now.

Will watch the next 4 episodes tomorrow night. :wave:

Glad you enjoyed eps 2 and 3, sorry you didn't enjoy the premiere. Sadly thats the only ep to feature the whole cast in s5. You are correct about Kyra, her actress was battling anorexia and only filmed 2 eps in s5. As Is was filmed second but shown third and is Kyra's last ep til s6 while she got treated for her eating disorder.

Christopher
09-06-2020, 08:33 AM
You are correct about Kyra, her actress was battling anorexia and only filmed 2 eps in s5. As Is was filmed second but shown third and is Kyra's last ep til s6 while she got treated for her eating disorder.


Since this was mentioned, I'm going to add to this. I hated that they made jokes of Scarlett's anorexia in season 6. That was so insensitive to the people who battle eating disorders. The whole, "I just went to go get something to eat" line she keeps saying in the first episode wasn't funny. They should think about others before trying to get a few laughs off an illness that could cause someone to die from.

cfr1970
09-06-2020, 11:00 AM
Glad you enjoyed eps 2 and 3, sorry you didn't enjoy the premiere. Sadly thats the only ep to feature the whole cast in s5. You are correct about Kyra, her actress was battling anorexia and only filmed 2 eps in s5. As Is was filmed second but shown third and is Kyra's last ep til s6 while she got treated for her eating disorder.

Wow, I had no idea she was really going through that. I'm sure it was in the media but not being a Reba fan back then I never knew. Her look is startling so it must have been bad.

Did the actress ever talk openly about what led her to having the disorder? I wonder if it was Hollywood related and being in front of the camera that put pressure on her to be thin. I hope she successfully overcame it.

Since this was mentioned, I'm going to add to this. I hated that they made jokes of Scarlett's anorexia in season 6. That was so insensitive to the people who battle eating disorders. The whole, "I just went to go get something to eat" line she keeps saying in the first episode wasn't funny. They should think about others before trying to get a few laughs off an illness that could cause someone to die from.


I haven't seen the episode and while I do agree it's insensitive of the writers, I would think the actress would have given her ok on saying it. I think if she found it insensitive she would have objected. But you say "jokes"---so does that mean there's even more jokes about it after that?! Or just that one time? :eek:

I think it would've been a good idea to incorporate her experience into the show. But after seeing how silly they depicted alcoholism, perhaps it's better that they didn't.

But to get laughs out of it is tacky. She looked so unhealthy in the episode I watched last night I gasped, and it's not something I would laugh at. Do they explain her absence during the rest of the season?

Christopher
09-06-2020, 02:20 PM
I haven't seen the episode and while I do agree it's insensitive of the writers, I would think the actress would have given her ok on saying it. I think if she found it insensitive she would have objected. But you say "jokes"---so does that mean there's even more jokes about it after that?! Or just that one time? :eek:

I think it would've been a good idea to incorporate her experience into the show. But after seeing how silly they depicted alcoholism, perhaps it's better that they didn't.

But to get laughs out of it is tacky. She looked so unhealthy in the episode I watched last night I gasped, and it's not something I would laugh at. Do they explain her absence during the rest of the season?


I only remember the first episode when she walks in and they’re like, “where have you been?” and she’s like, “I went to go get something to eat”. One of the times they mention that on her, because it’s more than once, Van says, “see you next year” ohno: I thought it was disrespectful to the condition Scarlett and others go through with the illness.

I would have preferred they make it serious too and educate viewers on anorexia. I felt Scarlett had nothing for character growth through the series. Her absence is not mention in season 5. They probably didn’t know if she would be back.

JO Sweet Heart
09-06-2020, 05:18 PM
Scarlett (Kyra) in my opinion couldn't have been anymore of a stick figure during the season five opener when Brock is telling her and Jake about smoking. I pray that she is doing better these days.

God bless you and her always!!!

Holly

P.S. When she is shown going to her dad's refrigerator in the only scene that we see her in during that episode, you can see how much she didn't weigh anymore. :eek: :eek: :eek:

cfr1970
09-06-2020, 05:30 PM
I only remember the first episode when she walks in and they’re like, “where have you been?” and she’s like, “I went to go get something to eat”. One of the times they mention that on her, because it’s more than once, Van says, “see you next year” ohno: I thought it was disrespectful to the condition Scarlett and others go through with the illness.

I would have preferred they make it serious too and educate viewers on anorexia. I felt Scarlett had nothing for character growth through the series. Her absence is not mention in season 5. They probably didn’t know if she would be back.

So after those 2 episodes in the beginning of the season, she's gone till season 6? I think she would have evolved during season 5 had she not got sick. In season 4 she was starting a band and dating so I think we would've seen more in depth stories of her there.

It's a shame because her character really grew on me as the series progressed. I know season 6 is a very short one since it was cancelled early, so she probably doesn't get to do much in that final one. I too hope she's fully recovered from it and is ok today.

Lorimar Television
09-06-2020, 06:20 PM
I only remember the first episode when she walks in and they’re like, “where have you been?” and she’s like, “I went to go get something to eat”. One of the times they mention that on her, because it’s more than once, Van says, “see you next year” ohno: I thought it was disrespectful to the condition Scarlett and others go through with the illness.

I would have preferred they make it serious too and educate viewers on anorexia. I felt Scarlett had nothing for character growth through the series. Her absence is not mention in season 5. They probably didn’t know if she would be back.

I believe she did ok the jokes, the cast is still very close to this day and wouldn't do anything to make one another feel uncomfortable.


It's a shame because her character really grew on me as the series progressed. I know season 6 is a very short one since it was cancelled early, so she probably doesn't get to do much in that final one. I too hope she's fully recovered from it and is ok today.

She's very involved in s6 and has some good development

cfr1970
09-07-2020, 01:36 AM
I believe she did ok the jokes, the cast is still very close to this day and wouldn't do anything to make one another feel uncomfortable.
She's very involved in s6 and has some good development

It's nice to know the cast is still close all these years later. I'd love to see a reunion show sometime in the future.

I watched the next 4 episodes tonight:

1. "And God Created Van"---A good episode about faith in God and Van's lack of faith since he lost his football career. It's kind of a serious episode where we learn that even Reba lost her faith there for a while when she & Brock separated which is understandable. Van seems to be going through the same thing which I predict he'll eventually come out of.

It is disturbing how little Elizabeth didn't include him in her family drawing. This clearly shows that she feels a lack of attention from daddy who seems glued to sports on TV. This is something he really should take more seriously, but he apparently doesn't which is a little strange since we know he loves his daughter.

BJ is a little annoying getting openly hot and bothered for the church minister. Didn't she act like this in a past episode with a guy Reba had potential to date? Why she does this I don't know, but it tells me her marriage to Brock is still on shaky ground if she's looking at other men so openly.

I thought this would be the start of a relationship (finally!) for Reba with the minister...but I doubt we'll ever see him again. Reba really needs to have a permanent man in her life at this point and i'd like to see it. Hopefully, it comes in this season or the final one.

2. "No Good Deed"---Oh dear Lord this episode did not age well. ohno:

Reba takes in 20 black refugees of Hurricane Katrina and hilarity supposedly ensues. All I did was cringe throughout most of this episode. I think it was even cringeworthy back in 2005 to be honest.

BJ acting "black" and with her hair in cornrows was so cringey and embarrassing. She even says at one point "Is it because we're black?" Ugh. I found none of it funny at all. I liked the serious parts between Reba and I think Ruby was the black lady's name towards the end of the episode and found it touching when she thanked Reba for letting her family stay at her home by pointing out a quote from the bible. It was a nice moment.

Without BJ's buffoonish behavior, this could've been a much better episode about the devastating Hurricane Katrina, which hit less than 2 months before this aired.

3. "Best Lil' Haunted House in Texas"---A really fun Halloween episode. We see a touch of Roseanne here when Reba is shown being a big Halloween prankster like Roseanne is. But just like one of Roseanne's episodes, the tables are turned and the trickster is the trickee....Only Reba doesn't blow up the house in the end. :lol:

4. "Have Your Cake"---To cover for Melissa Peterman's obvious late stage pregnancy, the episode focuses on BJ's weight gain and how fat and unattractive she feels. It's a little ironic with the actress who plays Kyra temporarily off the show due to anorexia.
It's an ok episode and Reba was nice to help make BJ feel better about herself at the end.

Of all 4 watched tonight, my favorite was the Halloween one. pumpkin::wave:

Lorimar Television
09-07-2020, 02:51 AM
Glad to see you enjoyed the Episodes. Yeah Bj flirting with the minister was like Dr Jack Morgan. You’re right we won’t see him again. Best Lil' Haunted House in Texas is a great Ep it’s too bad it’s Rebas only halloween ep.

cfr1970
09-13-2020, 01:14 AM
Watched episodes 8-11 tonight:

"Grannies Gone Wild" --This was my favorite of the bunch tonight. Just as I suspected, flaky Cheyenne doesn't want to be a dentist anymore and wants to go into social work so she can help people.
She explains in a logical and adult way how she's given it a lot of thought and since her bout with alcohol, she wants to help others now. Van on the other hand is all about the money at first and wants her to stick with dentistry so they won't be poor.
But Cheyenne is convincing when she says it's not about making money, and she really wants to help people. Van comes around in the end mainly because he felt left out that she came to this life changing decision without consulting him.....(the same way Van took that Denver job without consulting her lol...so tit for tat there! :lol:)

We learn though that Cheyenne's way of helping people is to take a bunch of old ladies at the home and turn them into 80 year old Cheyennes by giving them ridiculous makeovers. This is where I realize she's just being flaky again...and we learn soon just how flaky she is with this new venture.

In the side story, Barbara Jean had to go to jury duty where she annoyed both the judge and me. She just acted like a crazy person and I was glad when the scene was over and she was tossed out of court. Not the best BJ story, but still a solid episode.


"Invasion" ---I guess Melissa Peterson was having her baby since she was MIA in this episode. We got treated instead to her annoying brother who's named "Buzzard" who shows up on the most boring Thanksgiving Day ever at Reba's. And throughout the entire episode no one is seen cooking any dinner in the kitchen yet that frozen turkey Reba brought home in the beginning is thawed and cooked by the end of the show. :lol:


"Issues"----Another boring episode. Melissa Peterson is back and still pregnant, so it must have been filmed out of order. She and Brock are having sleep issues and it turns out she's physically abusing him in bed while they're asleep, which incredibly never wakes up Brock no matter how many times she tosses punches on him. He wakes in the mornings wondering why he's so tired. None of it makes any sense and it's all too absurd.
There's a hamster named "Elton" involved that's the cause of the nighttime abuse and in the end Brock takes the animal and flushes it down the toilet. WTF?! Animal abuse is NEVER funny and it completely turned me off. Ugh.

Meanwhile, Reba & Van are bickering at work. We learn that Reba works at a realtor office and has a boss. But I thought she was an independent realtor because she hired Van to assist her. Wouldn't she have to have her boss hire him?!
Anyway, their bickering is causing tension to coworkers in the office who have no lines so we never actually see how irritated they are lol. They're all just background extras...
But we have that annoying guy from "Mad About You" playing a psychologist who comes to the office to help. He suggests Reba and Van switch workloads, to Reba's horror because she thinks he's not experienced enough to handle more than small tasks.
Isn't Reba new to this herself?! While I understand Van isn't too experienced to handle much, but Reba's cavalier attitude to his feelings of not feeling appreciated were kind of off putting. At one point she actually mocks him while playing an imaginary violin as he's airing his feelings. Not nice Reba!
The end scene where the house was robbed during a showing was too unrealistic to be funny. It would never happen lol. So it fell flat. Not a favorite episode especially for that hamster killing. :mad:


"Brock's Got Stones" ---Brock has kidney stones and it brought back memories of my experience with it a few years ago making the whole story uncomfortable to watch. It's the worst pain ever and 2 days of sheer torture!! Brock is in pain and Reba takes care of him since BJ is away (probably nursing her baby since her baby bump seems to be gone) She makes a small appearance at the beginning and end though.

Brock passes his stone, but enjoys that Reba is caring for him in a friendly way rather than always insulting him normally that he fakes still being in pain to extend things. Reba finds out and they have a nice talk which was the only part of the episode I liked.

Reba asks why they can't just move forward and be friends?...And right on cue in walks BJ. :lol:

Meanwhile, Cheyenne is upset because her volunteer work at a homeless shelter has her doing dishes rather than show everyone at the shelter how wonderful she is. Here's her flakiness again....she wants to volunteer and help people, but doesn't want to get her hands dirty. She's so delusional and doesn't seem to know what the heck she wants.

I bet if we peeked into Reba in 2020, we'd see her still living home and working as a cashier at the Piggly Wiggly. :lol:

It's an ok episode but i'm missing Kyra and can't wait for her to come back. There's one funny scene at the end when the homeless guy from the shelter rings Reba's door and announces to her that he won her house in a poker game. He doesn't say anything else, but we all know it's because of Van. :lol:

Hopefully things pick up more in the mid season episodes i'll watch tomorrow. :wave:

Lorimar Television
09-13-2020, 03:37 AM
Van comes around in the end mainly because he felt left out that she came to this life changing decision without consulting him.....(the same way Van took that Denver job without consulting her lol...so tit for tat there! :lol:)
Haha that's what they call karma. ;)

In the side story, Barbara Jean had to go to jury duty where she annoyed both the judge and me. She just acted like a crazy person and I was glad when the scene was over and she was tossed out of court. Not the best BJ story, but still a solid episode.

Aww I liked that part, it was pure hilarity.

I guess Melissa Peterson was having her baby since she was MIA in this episode.
Well you guess correctly! :D


There's a hamster named "Elton" involved that's the cause of the nighttime abuse and in the end Brock takes the animal and flushes it down the toilet. WTF?! Animal abuse is NEVER funny and it completely turned me off. Ugh.
Yeah that was too far.

Brock has kidney stones and it brought back memories of my experience with it a few years ago making the whole story uncomfortable to watch. It's the worst pain ever and 2 days of sheer torture!!
Ahh sorry to hear about that, sounds terrible.

I bet if we peeked into Reba in 2020, we'd see her still living home and working as a cashier at the Piggly Wiggly. :lol:

Hmmm you think? :happyface;)

It's an ok episode but i'm missing Kyra and can't wait for her to come back.
Yeah Kyra will be back and in the fold soon enough.

cfr1970
09-13-2020, 11:06 AM
Aww I liked that part, it was pure hilarity.


The way she just ripped the number off the juror next to her when that number was called so she can get on the jury was a little shocking. The woman just sat there instead of slapping her silly. BJ was a little more crazy than usual in this one. Just for taking that woman's number she would've been tossed out of the court...or worse maybe locked up too. :lol:



Yeah that was too far.


I was shocked they did that for laughs. I guess they felt small animals are disposable. :eek:



sorry to hear about that, sounds terrible.

I though my appendix burst or something. :lol: The pain is absolutely excruciating and I went to the ER. Took about 2 days to pass it and even the vicodin the doc gave me did nothing for the pain. When Brock was doubled over in pain, I cringed lol. I hope to never have that again! :eek:


Hmmm you think? :happyface;)

She had Reba & Brock shell out 2 years by this point for dental school. And remember how they gave Kyra the shaft because of Cheyenne's flakiness with school? I can't remember specifics now, but I think when she originally wanted to go into dentistry, she made her parents pay the extra funds for it and it cost Kyra her school semester in Europe.

Now here she is dropping the whole thing! Poor Kyra when she learns about that! Too bad her character wasn't here for this because it would've been good scenes to watch.

Cheyenne is clearly showing a flighty pattern of not sticking to things, so I think by today she'd be in a dead end job like Becky turned out to have in Roseanne. I think she'd be divorced from Van and still leeching off Reba.


Yeah Kyra will be back and in the fold soon enough.

I can't wait. Her absence is leaving a big hole in the show. :(

Lorimar Television
09-13-2020, 05:25 PM
She had Reba & Brock shell out 2 years by this point for dental school. And remember how they gave Kyra the shaft because of Cheyenne's flakiness with school? I can't remember specifics now, but I think when she originally wanted to go into dentistry, she made her parents pay the extra funds for it and it cost Kyra her school semester in Europe.

Now here she is dropping the whole thing! Poor Kyra when she learns about that! Too bad her character wasn't here for this because it would've been good scenes to watch.

Cheyenne is clearly showing a flighty pattern of not sticking to things, so I think by today she'd be in a dead end job like Becky turned out to have in Roseanne. I think she'd be divorced from Van and still leeching off Reba.


No in season 2 Cheyenne had no major and was dropping so many classes she didn't realize she wouldn't be a full-time student, (something the college should've told her but whatever....) She decided to be a dentist in early season 3 after they told her she had to decide a major. I was a liberal arts major and they didn't make us pick an actual major til the end of year two.

Cheyenne decided because of her alcoholism to do a more meaningful career to her. Her goal is to be a drug and alcohol counselor and is starting to volunteer at the homeless shelter.

cfr1970
09-13-2020, 07:52 PM
No in season 2 Cheyenne had no major and was dropping so many classes she didn't realize she wouldn't be a full-time student, (something the college should've told her but whatever....) She decided to be a dentist in early season 3 after they told her she had to decide a major. I was a liberal arts major and they didn't make us pick an actual major til the end of year two.

Cheyenne decided because of her alcoholism to do a more meaningful career to her. Her goal is to be a drug and alcohol counselor and is starting to volunteer at the homeless shelter.

If that was early season 3 when she decided to go into dentistry, that means she spent 2 years of college on dentistry classes that she's never going to use. It seems such a huge waste after investing all that time and money on it. I get that she wants to help people, but she was this gung ho about dentistry too so her personality shows me that after a couple of years of this she'll be bored and want to be an astronaut or something. :lol:

And who the hell is taking care of Elizabeth with Reba & Van working f/t and Cheyenne in school and volunteer work? Are we to believe that maid Conseula is still there? (I forgot her name, but when I think of tv maids I think of Suzanne Sugarbaker's never seen maid Conseula :lol:)

Anyway, this is why I say that 15 years later we'd still see Cheyenne bouncing from job to job because she's so fickle and flighty.

cfr1970
09-14-2020, 01:12 AM
"Parenting with Puppets"---Good episode. Reba & BJ fight about disciplining BJ's son Henry who's gotten really big. He looks almost 5 already! Maybe because i'm watching so quick it's startling to see him so big already and I forget 4 years have gone by since it began. :lol:

Their fight is weird because BJ is the one bringing her kid there unannounced and uninvited and gets all offended when Reba punishes him. Reba does point this out to BJ who stands there all shocked by it. This woman is so damn dense...I don't know how on earth Reba puts up with her crap sometimes!

A lamp is broken and Reba disciplines Henry for breaking it which sends BJ through the roof and a fed up Reba opens the front door and tells her to "Get Out!" Yay Reba!! :clap:

But.....oops!....It turns out that her own kid Jake actually broke the lamp and now Reba has some apologizing to do. :lol:

The side story is Brock and Van going to a man spa because Brock likes stuff like this. But he has to pull teeth to get Van to go...who winds up enjoying the experience until the male gay masseuse starts bawling at what a wonderful couple Brock & Van are. :lol: Funny stuff...and I liked Van making fun of Brock's name saying it sounds like a parrot warning. "BRAWK!" :rofl:

"Don't Mess with Taxes" ---An ok 2 parter where we learn that Brock and Reba are being audited from when they were married and learn they both owe the IRS a whopping $75,000! Yikes! And the side story is Van going to Cheyenne's class where the females all fawn over him irking Cheyenne.

Oh and BJ gets really uncomfortably creepy when talking about the tax audit and how she'll be Reba's girlfriend in prison. Why does she say these weird things?! Reba even told her to stop creeping her out. I'm beginning to wonder if BJ's obsession with Reba is taking a dark turn. :lol:

"The Goodbye Guy"---Part 2 of the audit where Brock decides to sell his house and head to Las Vegas with BJ and Henry to Reba's incredible delight and joy lol.
But BJ isn't having any of that because she knows deep in her twisted heart that her best friend, wannabe prison girlfriend, and creepy obsession loves her too much to let her go and will stop Brock from selling the house.

Reba actually does convince him not to sell, but because of Jake needing his father close and not BJ who thinks it's all about her when she finds out Brock changed his mind. This woman is starting to scare me...and Reba should be afraid too because the woman climbed her home to the second floor to creep inside her bedroom window at 2am because she thought it rude to ring the bell at that time. She's freaking psycho! :eek:

I think Brock decided to take on the whole 75k debt himself leaving Reba off the hook in the end? :confused:

"Money Blues"----Oh boy did this one irritate me! Cheyenne wants to do some frivolous shopping and asks Van for some cash before he leaves for work in the morning. He gives her a wad of bills and she happily trots off to the mall to buy shoes and stuff.

Reba sees Van give her the money and gets involved saying Van shouldn't be the one in control of the money and the marriage should be equal when it comes to finances.

Van says that since he's the one working, it's his money. He's correct, up to a point. Yes he earned the money, but when you're married, it's all jointly owned money.

So Van IMO does the right thing and puts Cheyenne on a weekly allowance which deeply offends her. I wonder to myself, how this is offensive to her when asking him for cash isn't?! Isn't it the same thing?!

With a weekly allowance, she doesn't have to ask him for money. Besides, Ricky did it with Lucy and they got along wonderfully! (Yes I know it was the 1950's...but it worked! :lol: )

In any case, the best solution and realistic one is for them to have a joint checking account each with their own debit card to use freely. In real life this would be the case.

But an allowance to me isn't offensive because he's giving her enough funds for what she needs for Elizabeth, shopping etc. I don't see anything wrong or demeaning about it but Cheyenne feels he's "putting a price" on her. Whatever.

The most logical thing to do is for the both of them to sit down and make a weekly or monthly budget together to decide where the money goes. And an allowance for her as well as him is naturally part of that. Hell, i'm single and do that myself each month.

I give myself X amount of money as an allowance after the bills/utilities are paid. Maybe i'm demeaning myself though. :lol:

It was all so silly and just showed how these two are still incredibly immature even after 4 years of marriage. And didn't they already have this financial discussion when Van was raking in the money with football?

They decided then what should go where and how to spend/save after Van bought Rhonda the car.

Oh and speaking of Rhonda...when Reba found out she was in for half that 75k taxes owed, she told Van he had to sell the car. WTF?! Why on earth should he have to do that to pay her taxes?! I found that incredibly selfish of her to say that.
Van offering is one thing, but for Reba to just say "sell your car" was really out of line. It didn't look like she was joking either. :eek:

There was a side story where Jake was selling cans of soda to his classmates because his school banned soda. But he was only doing it because he overheard everyone in the house talking about money problems and wanted to help out. Aww....but how the hell was he buying all those cans of soda to sell in the first place?! :eek:

Still missing Kyra....it's odd how no one even mentions her whereabouts and like she never even existed. I can't wait till she returns though.

Lorimar Television
09-14-2020, 02:01 AM
Haha these are some great reviews Cfr! The allowance offended Cheyenne because he was basically treating her like a kid and not his equal partner. It’s not like cheyenne is a housewife, she’s still in school working on her degree.

I do wonder if kyra were on this season if they would’ve had a storyline about her parents wanting her moving back in with Reba since Brock was planning to move away.

Christopher
09-19-2020, 09:32 PM
Still missing Kyra....it's odd how no one even mentions her whereabouts and like she never even existed. I can't wait till she returns though.

When this happened, they weren't sure if she would be back. There was the possibility of pulling a Judy from Family Matters and act as if she never existed in the first place. Luckily though, Scarlett made a full recovery to come back the last season.

Are you at season 6 yet? I'm curious to see your opinion on the final season.

Lorimar Television
09-19-2020, 09:36 PM
When this happened, they weren't sure if she would be back. There was the possibility of pulling a Judy from Family Matters and act as if she never existed in the first place. Luckily though, Scarlett made a full recovery to come back the last season.

Are you at season 6 yet? I'm curious to see your opinion on the final season.

I don’t believe that was the case. They knew Scarlett was recovering by episode 10 as she was at the 100th Ep celebration party, but they wanted her to take the rest of the season off for her health. They still referenced Kyra in episodes, notably the thanksgiving Ep, brocks got stones, and bj saying she had three tickets in St. Louis was obviously for herself, Henry, and Kyra.

cfr1970
09-20-2020, 01:18 AM
3 episodes tonight:

"The Trouble with Dr. Hunky" ---Ugh, it's Desperate Housewives guy back again. This was filmed in 2006 when he was doing that show, so why couldn't they hire an out of work actor who needed the money instead of this guy hogging up all the TV parts? :lol: Can you tell I don't care for this actor?

The good news is he's married and we'll never see him again. Hooray! It was a good story showing Reba on the other side of the fence and playing the part of Barbara Jean which horrified her. :lol:

And once again Barbara Jean openly lusts after this guy right in front of him and Reba, Van and Cheyenne....what the hell is wrong with her?! It's not funny to me, but major psycho behavior. It's times like this that I despise her. And to make it even worse, this is another guy that Reba's with that it makes you wonder if she's purposely targeting the men in her life. It's sick!

Still a good episode though. And Cheyenne popping out of the chest was pretty funny. :lol:

"Reba the Landlord"---I have to be honest and say I didn't understand ANY of this. Why on earth would Reba buy Brock & Barbara Jean's house so they can remain there and pay her rent?! NO ONE in their right mind would do such a thing.

She's basically taking out a whole 30 year MORTGAGE for these two and allowing them to pay her back in rent. I doubt she had the funds to buy that house outright. It just makes no sense that anyone would do this.

Why couldn't Brock & BJ just get a nice apartment or condo close by? He's still a successful dentist and most likely making enough money. I just didn't understand the whole thing so when they got to the story about Reba being their landlord, I just couldn't get into it because I kept wondering throughout the whole episode why Reba would do this...and HOW could she?

What bank would give a 30 year mortgage to her, especially since she's most likely still paying on her first house? Well, maybe Brock is, but still....I can't see her successfully getting a mortgage for this situation. And in real life there would be lawyers drawing up those leases for Brock & BJ.

It was all so unbelievable that I just couldn't get into it.

"The Blond Leading the Blind" ---Reba suddenly needs glasses to drive. (she never did before) so after she sideswipes Van's car "Rhonda", she goes to have laser surgery to correct her vision. (It didn't help that I watched this right after seeing Final Destination 5 where a girl's eye is hideously lasered during her death scene :lol:)

Hilarity ensues when Reba has to wear dark glasses and is blind until her eyes heal. The kitchen scene was funny with BJ hiding while Reba tried to make a sandwich.
Reba insults BJ thinking she's talking to Cheyenne but it's BJ standing there to a blind Reba and listening and runs off hurt. And they have their umpteenth scene where they make up and Reba once again grudgingly tells BJ how much she cares for her. We've seen this before so it feels like a rehash.

Still an ok episode, but i'm glad there's only 4 episodes to watch tomorrow before starting season 6 next week. I want Kyra back already!! :crybaby:

cfr1970
09-20-2020, 01:28 AM
When this happened, they weren't sure if she would be back. There was the possibility of pulling a Judy from Family Matters and act as if she never existed in the first place. Luckily though, Scarlett made a full recovery to come back the last season.

Are you at season 6 yet? I'm curious to see your opinion on the final season.

I start season 6 next Saturday and i'm looking forward to it because I miss Kyra. I'm upset that it's only 13 episodes and not a full season so I have to prepare for the ending that's quickly going to come. I'm gonna miss it when i'm finished. Overall, it's been a really fun watch.

I'll have to find a new series for my weekends after this. I bought the first season of "Rhoda" i'll start for Sunday nights because that's when I watch MTM and they'll pair good together.

I caught a couple of episodes of the 1970's "Bob Newhart Show" on Decades channel and it looked good. I never watched that series because it was always an "adult" show like MTM was so at my age, it's right up my alley now. :lol:

JO Sweet Heart
09-20-2020, 08:27 AM
"The Blond Leading the Blind" ---Reba suddenly needs glasses to drive. (she never did before)
I guess right then is when Reba's age where her eye sight is concerned was starting to set in since getting younger is not in the cards for anyone unfortunately.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

Christopher
09-20-2020, 10:14 AM
I don’t believe that was the case. They knew Scarlett was recovering by episode 10 as she was at the 100th Ep celebration party, but they wanted her to take the rest of the season off for her health. They still referenced Kyra in episodes, notably the thanksgiving Ep, brocks got stones, and bj saying she had three tickets in St. Louis was obviously for herself, Henry, and Kyra.

I remember back when this happened, the producers used the word "if" she comes back in interviews. They weren't sure if she would but said she's always welcome. It was Scarlett's choice. That's why in the last episodes of season 5 it's like Kyra never existed. Her name is never mention.


"The Trouble with Dr. Hunky" ---Ugh, it's Desperate Housewives guy back again. This was filmed in 2006 when he was doing that show, so why couldn't they hire an out of work actor who needed the money instead of this guy hogging up all the TV parts? :lol: Can you tell I don't care for this actor?

Well he was pretty popular back then along with Jesse Metcalf, the guy who played the gardener. The guys were lucky on Desperate Housewives. They were able to go do other shows on different networks. The core 4 had to go through hoops if they could guest star on shows on other networks. ABC didn't like competition.


The good news is he's married and we'll never see him again. Hooray!

Are you sure about that? You still have another season to go ;) :p


And once again Barbara Jean openly lusts after this guy right in front of him and Reba, Van and Cheyenne....what the hell is wrong with her?!

She's in an unhappy marriage with Brock. That's why she looks around and flirts.


"Reba the Landlord"---I have to be honest and say I didn't understand ANY of this. Why on earth would Reba buy Brock & Barbara Jean's house so they can remain there and pay her rent?! NO ONE in their right mind would do such a thing.

She's basically taking out a whole 30 year MORTGAGE for these two and allowing them to pay her back in rent. I doubt she had the funds to buy that house outright. It just makes no sense that anyone would do this.

Why couldn't Brock & BJ just get a nice apartment or condo close by? He's still a successful dentist and most likely making enough money. I just didn't understand the whole thing so when they got to the story about Reba being their landlord, I just couldn't get into it because I kept wondering throughout the whole episode why Reba would do this...and HOW could she?

What bank would give a 30 year mortgage to her, especially since she's most likely still paying on her first house? Well, maybe Brock is, but still....I can't see her successfully getting a mortgage for this situation. And in real life there would be lawyers drawing up those leases for Brock & BJ.

It was all so unbelievable that I just couldn't get into it.

They were going for laughs with this episode than having a factual point to the story. The most ridiculous scene is the ending when Van holds up all those photoshop pictures. It's stupid.


"The Blond Leading the Blind" ---Reba suddenly needs glasses to drive. (she never did before) so after she sideswipes Van's car "Rhonda", she goes to have laser surgery to correct her vision. (It didn't help that I watched this right after seeing Final Destination 5 where a girl's eye is hideously lasered during her death scene :lol:)

Hilarity ensues when Reba has to wear dark glasses and is blind until her eyes heal. The kitchen scene was funny with BJ hiding while Reba tried to make a sandwich.
Reba insults BJ thinking she's talking to Cheyenne but it's BJ standing there to a blind Reba and listening and runs off hurt. And they have their umpteenth scene where they make up and Reba once again grudgingly tells BJ how much she cares for her. We've seen this before so it feels like a rehash.

Still an ok episode, but i'm glad there's only 4 episodes to watch tomorrow before starting season 6 next week. I want Kyra back already!! :crybaby:


Have you noticed the decrease in quality for this show yet? After season 3, it just doesn't have the great writing anymore. I got tired of the Van / Cheyenne drama and especially the Brock / BJ crap. You would think they would want to have Reba as the focus in a whole season for a change, but no. They reuse plots from before.




I start season 6 next Saturday and i'm looking forward to it because I miss Kyra. I'm upset that it's only 13 episodes and not a full season so I have to prepare for the ending that's quickly going to come. I'm gonna miss it when i'm finished. Overall, it's been a really fun watch.

I'll have to find a new series for my weekends after this. I bought the first season of "Rhoda" i'll start for Sunday nights because that's when I watch MTM and they'll pair good together.

I caught a couple of episodes of the 1970's "Bob Newhart Show" on Decades channel and it looked good. I never watched that series because it was always an "adult" show like MTM was so at my age, it's right up my alley now. :lol:


Have you ever heard of Shameless? It's Van's other TV series. The first 7 seasons are superb. If you ever find that one on a streaming site for free, I recommend giving that a shot. It's similar to Roseanne and Married With Children.

cfr1970
09-20-2020, 10:51 AM
I guess right then is when Reba's age where her eye sight is concerned was starting to set in since getting younger is not in the cards for anyone unfortunately.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

Ok it makes sense that this was the first time she needed glasses due to middle age setting in. Van made a comment that "You drove without your glasses?" that threw me because we never saw her before needing them. But it's possible it was a new development with her eyes so not a big plot hole.

cfr1970
09-20-2020, 11:00 AM
Well he was pretty popular back then along with Jesse Metcalf, the guy who played the gardener. The guys were lucky on Desperate Housewives. They were able to go do other shows on different networks. The core 4 had to go through hoops if they could guest star on shows on other networks. ABC didn't like competition.

Are you sure about that? You still have another season to go ;) :p


Oh God no, he returns again!? Please don't say Reba ends up with him. Ugh. I liked the guy from season 2 she dated briefly and even the minister BJ lusted after would've been good. Anyone but Desperate Housewives guy. :lol:

She's in an unhappy marriage with Brock. That's why she looks around and flirts.

It's the way she does it about Reba's potential men. This is a woman who already took her husband and is openly lusting after her dates now. It's pathological and sick. Reba should've been really concerned there. BJ acts like she's Reba's best friend, yet openly and shamelessly lusts after all her men right in front of her. I'd have tossed her out of my home forever.



They were going for laughs with this episode than having a factual point to the story. The most ridiculous scene is the ending when Van holds up all those photoshop pictures. It's stupid.

I thought that end was dumb too. I like how in the early seasons they stayed rooted in reality yet still managed to be funny. Reba up and buying Brock's house was just too over the top unbelievable to enjoy the ensuing humor of her being the landlord. The whole show i'm scratching my head wondering how this was possible to do that I didn't laugh at anything.



Have you noticed the decrease in quality for this show yet? After season 3, it just doesn't have the great writing anymore. I got tired of the Van / Cheyenne drama and especially the Brock / BJ crap. You would think they would want to have Reba as the focus in a whole season for a change, but no. They reuse plots from before.


Yeah I noticed it back in season 4. Most shows unfortunately hit the wall by the fifth year. Even my favorite "All in the Family" is a downhill spiral after the 5th season. I think 5 seasons is the shelf life of most shows and after that, they're just pushing things along to get syndication packages over quality.


Have you ever heard of Shameless? It's Van's other TV series. The first 7 seasons are superb. If you ever find that one on a streaming site for free, I recommend giving that a shot. It's similar to Roseanne and Married With Children.

I never heard of that one, but will look it up and see if it's worth a look.

Christopher
09-20-2020, 11:34 AM
Oh God no, he returns again!? Please don't say Reba ends up with him. Ugh. I liked the guy from season 2 she dated briefly and even the minister BJ lusted after would've been good. Anyone but Desperate Housewives guy. :lol:

No, he doesn't come back but I had to say that in response to your post :lol:


It's the way she does it about Reba's potential men. This is a woman who already took her husband and is openly lusting after her dates now. It's pathological and sick. Reba should've been really concerned there. BJ acts like she's Reba's best friend, yet openly and shamelessly lusts after all her men right in front of her. I'd have tossed her out of my home forever.

BJ going after Reba's men is more concerning than the time she dyed her hair red doing an exact single white female on Reba? Oh if you haven't seen Single White Female, that's a good movie. But yeah, BJ does way too much to be in Reba's life. It's not natural. It's forced so whatever Reba feels, it's because BJ forced it on her.


Yeah I noticed it back in season 4. Most shows unfortunately hit the wall by the fifth year. Even my favorite "All in the Family" is a downhill spiral after the 5th season. I think 5 seasons is the shelf life of most shows and after that, they're just pushing things along to get syndication packages over quality.

With Reba, they redo the same plot of a couple in despair. Starting back in season 2 or 3 with Van and Cheyenne, they switch to Brock and BJ. You'll see Van and Cheyenne fighting again in the last couple of episodes of season 5. There wasn't a lot of originality after season 3.


I never heard of that one, but will look it up and see if it's worth a look.

There's a UK version and a US version. I haven't seen the UK version. I like the first 7 seasons the best of the US version. I feel like season 7's finale would have been a great series finale. Unfortunately, it wasn't and unfortunately I watched up to the end of season 9 :lol: It ends next year so I'll just binge watch seasons 10 and 11 when it's done. I've followed it this long that I've got to see how it ends. I hope it's something you can get into.

cfr1970
09-20-2020, 12:37 PM
No, he doesn't come back but I had to say that in response to your post :lol:

Thank God is all I can say to that. I'd hate to see Reba end up with him. puke:


going after Reba's men is more concerning than the time she dyed her hair red doing an exact single white female on Reba? Oh if you haven't seen Single White Female, that's a good movie. But yeah, BJ does way too much to be in Reba's life. It's not natural. It's forced so whatever Reba feels, it's because BJ forced it on her.

Well, it's already accepted that BJ is obsessive of Reba so that didn't raise any red flags with me. She loves Reba too much which is concerning, but not in a "Single White Female" way imo. (I saw that movie back when it came out and loved it btw).

I think BJ openly chasing after Reba's men after she already took her husband is way more concerning and a line being majorly crossed. I think in reality, Reba would've thrown her out of the house and said never come back.

Wanting to emulate her idol is one thing, but openly wanting her dates is crossing the line imo, especially given the history.



With Reba, they redo the same plot of a couple in despair. Starting back in season 2 or 3 with Van and Cheyenne, they switch to Brock and BJ. You'll see Van and Cheyenne fighting again in the last couple of episodes of season 5. There wasn't a lot of originality after season 3.

Yeah, nothing seems to advance anymore. I'm STILL waiting for Reba to get serious with someone and this seems the perfect season for a whole season long story arc for it to play out....but I only have a few episodes left of season 5 and it doesn't look like it's coming. :(


There's a UK version and a US version. I haven't seen the UK version. I like the first 7 seasons the best of the US version. I feel like season 7's finale would have been a great series finale. Unfortunately, it wasn't and unfortunately I watched up to the end of season 9 :lol: It ends next year so I'll just binge watch seasons 10 and 11 when it's done. I've followed it this long that I've got to see how it ends. I hope it's something you can get into.

Used dvds of season 1 are going for 6 bucks on Amazon, so i'll pick it up and check that out.

Christopher
09-21-2020, 01:16 AM
Yeah, nothing seems to advance anymore. I'm STILL waiting for Reba to get serious with someone and this seems the perfect season for a whole season long story arc for it to play out....but I only have a few episodes left of season 5 and it doesn't look like it's coming. :(


Used dvds of season 1 are going for 6 bucks on Amazon, so i'll pick it up and check that out.

Nope. For a show called Reba, it's rarely ever about her. It's always about her family.

I'm surprise Shameless is that cheap. It's worth it though. I know you like serious topic shows with humor. Shameless did this perfectly the first 7 seasons.

cfr1970
09-21-2020, 01:33 AM
Final 4 episodes of season 5!

"Here We Go Again"----Every sitcom has it and it's inevitable to appear somewhere around the fifth season....the dreaded "clip show" rears it's nasty ugly head. omg:

I know some people like them but I detest them with a fiery passion. At least Reba tried to insert some new stuff in between the clips but still...I can just never get into these episodes.

One of those new things was the revelation that the court mandated these therapy sessions that's STILL going on 5 years later. WTF?! I never heard of such a thing. :lol:

In any case, this was to be their last one (after FIVE YEARS?!) and Reba was thrilled to not have to do them anymore. Well, who wouldn't?! I just thought since it went on that long, it should've been a running gag throughout the series.

Like each episode have a small scene at their latest therapy session where hilarity ensued regarding the plot of that particular show. I think that would've been fun.

Oddly, Kyra isn't ever invited to these family sessions....but i'll get to her later on....


"Red Alert"----Barbara Jean gets a job as an insurance salesperson and of course in her creepy obsession with Reba, digs into her insurance files and goads her into updating her policy.

We learn Reba has high blood pressure at the physical when Reba transported to the 1950's and had a doctor make a house call to perform the physical right in her living room. That would never happen in the 21st century unless you're a homebound invalid on Medicare. Reba would surely have to go to the doctor for that!

Her high blood pressure is naturally thought by Reba (and me) to be caused by Barbara Jean and her creepy obsessiveness of her. When she thinks she has to stay away from Reba forever to keep her healthy, she actually asks for a lock of her hair as a keepsake. Ew!! The woman is certifiable!

It was an ok episode, but Barbara Jean seems to be getting crazier with each episode. I wish they'd tone down her cartoonish behavior and make her more of a real person.

"Two Weddings and a Funeral"---Van and Cheyenne are getting married again for their 5th wedding anniversary. Barbara Jean takes control and rearranges Reba's church decorations by adding a giant gaudy popcorn stand, a merry go round horse, a dozen doves in a box...(make that 11, one died lol) and a huge pink banner saying "Van & Cheyenne 4 Ever!". It looks more like a prom than a church wedding. This woman is insane.

Reba of course is horrified but Cheyenne is also horrified when she looks out into the church, but for different reasons. Van invited his coworkers and clients to the wedding and she's very upset about it saying they agreed only people they cared about would attend.

She confronts Van asking why her friends from her group aren't there and the place is filled with his clients instead. He tells her that her group friends are all downers and depressing. She takes offense because she's one of those people.

They have more words and the wedding is off! :eek:

Barbara Jean and Brock decide to renew their vows in their place, but before Reba can make the announcement, she sees BJ's doves fly in front of her and passes out. (to be continued...)

And again...no sign or mention of Kyra for this important episode that she would naturally be in. Yet she's still showing in the opening credits. So she's clearly still existing in the universe of the show....it's just never explained just where the hell she is. They could've just sent her off to that Europe school for a year to explain her absence if they wanted to keep her in the opening credits.

"Reba's Heart"---Reba is taken to the hospital and through a mix up she's told she has to have surgery, but no one tells her what the hell for...but they're prepping her for that surgery in a few minutes. LOL...would never happen but I just went with it.

Everyone is wondering what surgery Reba needs and BJ is being annoying with a camera and filming everything and even asks Reba for final last words. OMG someone just throw this woman out of the room!

Van & Cheyenne argue in the waiting room about their marriage. Her mother was just taken to the hospital after passing out and this is what they talk about?! There are more pressing issues here you two!!

I get that Van was a major ass to not invite her friends to the wedding, but Cheyenne kind of annoyed me with her "I'm a changed person now that I have an addiction and have my support groups!"

Actually her character is different, but not for the better imo. I liked Cheyenne before the whole alcohol story line. She was flaky, but a good character. Her whole existence seems to revolve around her support group and she's neglecting her child and husband.

In this whole season, I rarely saw her with her daughter at all. It's like she stopped taking care of her completely! They bicker and argue through most of the episode until the rushed end where they try and make Reba happy by saying their vows to each other in her hospital room, but while saying them, they realize they still love each other and quickly make up.

And still no mention of Kyra or where she is while her mother is laid up in the hospital! :lol:

Reba learns of the mix up and that she doesn't need surgery and she just fainted. Everybody is all happy and the show is over. And what comes next is a whole montage of the entire series that looks like it's a Series Finale which make me wonder did I pop in Season 6 and watch the last episode of that season instead of 5? :lol:

I went to the Wikipedia page and read this :

The show was cancelled when The WB and UPN merged into The CW. However, in an 11th hour move on May 17, 2006, The CW renewed Reba with a 13-episode order, reportedly to fulfill a syndication contract worth $20 million

This episode aired on May 5 so at the time, the show was cancelled and this was the finale. Oh boy what a slap to viewers that would've been if it was. It was so lame for a finale and I only hope the last one of season 6 closes things better. At least they included Kyra in the clips showed.


So season 5 is done. I can't say I enjoyed most of it. I think the first 3 seasons are the best, though i'm hoping season 6 isn't a total train wreck. Will watch the first 8 episodes next weekend! :wave:

cfr1970
09-21-2020, 01:42 AM
Nope. For a show called Reba, it's rarely ever about her. It's always about her family.

I'm surprise Shameless is that cheap. It's worth it though. I know you like serious topic shows with humor. Shameless did this perfectly the first 7 seasons.


It would've been nice to see a long story arc about her in a relationship though. And I would've liked to have had more Reba and less Barbara Jean.

The Shameless dvds going for 6 bucks are used copies. I only buy brand new if it's something I know I love and want to keep forever. Otherwise, if it's just something I want to check out or will watch only once, I go for the used copies.

Brand new it's going for $17.34 on Amazon.

Lorimar Television
09-21-2020, 02:49 AM
In this whole season, I rarely saw her with her daughter at all. It's like she stopped taking care of her completely! They bicker and argue through most of the episode until the rushed end where they try and make Reba happy by saying their vows to each other in her hospital room, but while saying them, they realize they still love each other and quickly make up.

To be fair they rarely show Henry or Elizabeth at all after a while. Elizabeth was only in 3 eps, and the moment that sticks out most was not including Van in her family drawing. :lol: We just have to assume the kids are taken care of off screen.


Reba learns of the mix up and that she doesn't need surgery and she just fainted. Everybody is all happy and the show is over. And what comes next is a whole montage of the entire series that looks like it's a Series Finale which make me wonder did I pop in Season 6 and watch the last episode of that season instead of 5? :lol:
Yeah, they actually had another scene instead of the montage that was a cliffhanger. Van and Cheyenne basically talk and realize they're not the same people they were and it ended with them deciding to split up. None of this ever aired so no need to keep any of this in mind as it will never come up. :lol:


This episode aired on May 5 so at the time, the show was cancelled and this was the finale. Oh boy what a slap to viewers that would've been if it was. It was so lame for a finale and I only hope the last one of season 6 closes things better. At least they included Kyra in the clips showed.
It absolutely closes it far better, thankfully they got a proper final season and got Kyra back.


So season 5 is done. I can't say I enjoyed most of it. I think the first 3 seasons are the best, though i'm hoping season 6 isn't a total train wreck. Will watch the first 8 episodes next weekend! :wave:
That's too bad, hope you enjoy s6. I do agree s3 is probably the best season but I still enjoy the others.

Christopher
09-21-2020, 02:59 AM
"Here We Go Again"----Every sitcom has it and it's inevitable to appear somewhere around the fifth season....the dreaded "clip show" rears it's nasty ugly head. omg:

I know some people like them but I detest them with a fiery passion. At least Reba tried to insert some new stuff in between the clips but still...I can just never get into these episodes.

One of those new things was the revelation that the court mandated these therapy sessions that's STILL going on 5 years later. WTF?! I never heard of such a thing. :lol:

In any case, this was to be their last one (after FIVE YEARS?!) and Reba was thrilled to not have to do them anymore. Well, who wouldn't?! I just thought since it went on that long, it should've been a running gag throughout the series.

Like each episode have a small scene at their latest therapy session where hilarity ensued regarding the plot of that particular show. I think that would've been fun.

Oddly, Kyra isn't ever invited to these family sessions....but i'll get to her later on....

I never understood why they had to be in therapy again since it was dropped after season 1. I don't care for recap shows so this isn't one of my favorites either.

"Red Alert"----Barbara Jean gets a job as an insurance salesperson and of course in her creepy obsession with Reba, digs into her insurance files and goads her into updating her policy.

We learn Reba has high blood pressure at the physical when Reba transported to the 1950's and had a doctor make a house call to perform the physical right in her living room. That would never happen in the 21st century unless you're a homebound invalid on Medicare. Reba would surely have to go to the doctor for that!

Her high blood pressure is naturally thought by Reba (and me) to be caused by Barbara Jean and her creepy obsessiveness of her. When she thinks she has to stay away from Reba forever to keep her healthy, she actually asks for a lock of her hair as a keepsake. Ew!! The woman is certifiable!

It was an ok episode, but Barbara Jean seems to be getting crazier with each episode. I wish they'd tone down her cartoonish behavior and make her more of a real person.

Yeah they kind of increased BJ's obsession over Reba as the seasons went on. I would say it gets better in season 6, but it doesn't. Reba and BJ's relationship is serious single white female territory.


And again...no sign or mention of Kyra for this important episode that she would naturally be in. Yet she's still showing in the opening credits. So she's clearly still existing in the universe of the show....it's just never explained just where the hell she is. They could've just sent her off to that Europe school for a year to explain her absence if they wanted to keep her in the opening credits.

It's been so long ago but they kept her in the credits to show Scarlett she's still part of the show. They were all very supportive of Scarlett from what I read in interviews back then.


And still no mention of Kyra or where she is while her mother is laid up in the hospital! :lol:

Nope and did you notice Jake is there at the beginning of the episode? Right after the "previous segment", we see Jake walking down the hallway as the doctor comes out. They were preparing themselves in case Scarlett told them she didn't want to act anymore.

Reba learns of the mix up and that she doesn't need surgery and she just fainted. Everybody is all happy and the show is over. And what comes next is a whole montage of the entire series that looks like it's a Series Finale which make me wonder did I pop in Season 6 and watch the last episode of that season instead of 5? :lol:

I went to the Wikipedia page and read this :

The show was cancelled when The WB and UPN merged into The CW. However, in an 11th hour move on May 17, 2006, The CW renewed Reba with a 13-episode order, reportedly to fulfill a syndication contract worth $20 million

This episode aired on May 5 so at the time, the show was cancelled and this was the finale. Oh boy what a slap to viewers that would've been if it was. It was so lame for a finale and I only hope the last one of season 6 closes things better. At least they included Kyra in the clips showed.


So season 5 is done. I can't say I enjoyed most of it. I think the first 3 seasons are the best, though i'm hoping season 6 isn't a total train wreck. Will watch the first 8 episodes next weekend! :wave:


First, you can tell by the way a certain actress looks in season 6 if you had the wrong disc in :lol:

Yes, this was intended to be the series finale since The CW didn't want this type of show on their network. Back then the woman who ran The CW wanted nothing but teeny bopper shows on the network. She tried sabotaging Smallville and more importantly Supernatural :lol: She was one of those women who loved the Aaron Spelling shows by greenlighting 90210 and Melrose Place remakes. Oh cfr if you didn't see the Melrose Place follow up, you are lucky. They had the gull to bring Sydney back to life just to kill her off again :rolleyes: Dumb ass network thinking fans would accept that ohno:

Anyways, yes they rewrote the final moment of the season 5 finale to do a montage honoring what they accomplished. I miss The WB. That network really became a hit with the young adults by allowing a variety of all kinds of shows and not just teeny bopper shows.

It would've been nice to see a long story arc about her in a relationship though. And I would've liked to have had more Reba and less Barbara Jean.

I would have liked to have seen Reba meet someone and have a happy ending starting her life over again. She's too busy trying to fix all these other people's problems, that she's neglecting her own health and happiness.

cfr1970
09-21-2020, 10:27 AM
To be fair they rarely show Henry or Elizabeth at all after a while. Elizabeth was only in 3 eps, and the moment that sticks out most was not including Van in her family drawing. :lol: We just have to assume the kids are taken care of off screen.

But everyone else in the house is working f/t now....I guess we're to assume that nanny we saw once is taking care of them? Poor Elizabeth's family drawing would have no one in it at this point. :lol:

We do see BJ with Henry a lot more than we do Cheyenne with Elizabeth.

Yeah, they actually had another scene instead of the montage that was a cliffhanger. Van and Cheyenne basically talk and realize they're not the same people they were and it ended with them deciding to split up. None of this ever aired so no need to keep any of this in mind as it will never come up. :lol:

Too bad they didn't include this on the dvd. I would've liked to have seen it.


It absolutely closes it far better, thankfully they got a proper final season and got Kyra back.

I'm glad to know they closed the show properly and with Kyra there. I'm really looking forward to the final season now.

That's too bad, hope you enjoy s6. I do agree s3 is probably the best season but I still enjoy the others.

I think all shows lose their creative quality around the 5th season. It's difficult to maintain the same quality as from the beginning. Maybe all shows should be capped to 5 season maximum.

cfr1970
09-21-2020, 10:43 AM
I never understood why they had to be in therapy again since it was dropped after season 1. I don't care for recap shows so this isn't one of my favorites either.


I guess since they thought the show was cancelled and this was the end, they tried for a full circle angle...ending the show where it began. But the therapy did seem to come out of nowhere. I don't think it was mentioned that they were still going weekly much less mandated by the court!

Yeah they kind of increased BJ's obsession over Reba as the seasons went on. I would say it gets better in season 6, but it doesn't. Reba and BJ's relationship is serious single white female territory.


I'm not liking that! BJ's behavior is growing more bizarre each episode and the whole "single white female" thing is more creepy than funny. They're turning that woman into a caricature at this point.


It's been so long ago but they kept her in the credits to show Scarlett she's still part of the show. They were all very supportive of Scarlett from what I read in interviews back then.


I get that, but I wish they would have acknowledged Kyra's whereabouts if she was still a part of the show. Say she went to boarding school or something. Not even mentioning her even in important episodes like the wedding and hospital only makes the viewer wonder where she is.

They even could've done a "Roseanne" and hired Sarah Chalke to play her for a while. :lol:


Nope and did you notice Jake is there at the beginning of the episode? Right after the "previous segment", we see Jake walking down the hallway as the doctor comes out. They were preparing themselves in case Scarlett told them she didn't want to act anymore.


Yeah, I found that strange because he just runs off down the hall and we never see him again. Where the hell did he go?!


First, you can tell by the way a certain actress looks in season 6 if you had the wrong disc in :lol:


When I did a search on Meleissa Peterson to see what she's doing now, I saw the pictures of her stick thin and then an article from back then how they incorporated it into the show. So I know about the weight loss and looking forward to seeing the new BJ in season 6...but not if they amp up her SWF behavior. :eek:

Yes, this was intended to be the series finale since The CW didn't want this type of show on their network. Back then the woman who ran The CW wanted nothing but teeny bopper shows on the network. She tried sabotaging Smallville and more importantly Supernatural :lol: She was one of those women who loved the Aaron Spelling shows by greenlighting 90210 and Melrose Place remakes. Oh cfr if you didn't see the Melrose Place follow up, you are lucky. They had the gull to bring Sydney back to life just to kill her off again :rolleyes: Dumb ass network thinking fans would accept that ohno:


I remember in 2009 being excited for MP returning and all the viewers were pissed off what they did to Sydney and imo that's when the show tanked. Viewers massively tuned out after they killed her off. It was all so pointless, but I still tuned into it until they yanked it off the air.

No one wanted to see a new crop of 20 somethings---we tuned in to see the original cast....same with the new 90210 but incredibly, that one lasted a few seasons and actually became a hit for them.

Anyways, yes they rewrote the final moment of the season 5 finale to do a montage honoring what they accomplished. I miss The WB. That network really became a hit with the young adults by allowing a variety of all kinds of shows and not just teeny bopper shows.


I remember when the CW started and it was all comic book superhero shows. puke:


I would have liked to have seen Reba meet someone and have a happy ending starting her life over again. She's too busy trying to fix all these other people's problems, that she's neglecting her own health and happiness.

I think it's terrible that they didn't do that for her character and think audiences wanted that for her. Don't tell me how it ends, but even if she had just met a man that insinuates it would go long term would've been enough.

Lorimar Television
09-21-2020, 06:36 PM
I dont think they amp up BJ's SWF behavior in s6, its pretty even to where it was in s4 and 5. If anything she gains more confidence with the weight loss.

Lorimar Television
09-21-2020, 06:38 PM
We do see BJ with Henry a lot more than we do Cheyenne with Elizabeth.


Well if it makes you feel better Henry and Elizabeth are each only in one ep in the last season and Elizabeth's scene is with Cheyenne while Henry's is with Brock.

cfr1970
09-27-2020, 01:44 AM
Started Season 6 tonight!! Watched first 3 episodes--

"Let's Get Physical"---Melissa Peterson lost a ton of weight and it's incorporated into the show as Barbara Jean flaunts her newly thin figure. The opening scene with a 300 pound Reba eating everything in sight was funny---and then Barbara Jean makes her entrance and boy is she really thin!! :eek:

I may get flack for this but---I don't like it!! Nope, I honestly don't. Let me explain...for one, I immediately had a flashback to 1988 when I saw Oprah make her entrance on stage the first time she went thin and i'm not the only one who gasped at first sight.

Oprah head suddenly looked bigger and she had a "bug eyed" appearance. Sure she was stick thin, but it just didn't match her. It's difficult to explain, but I felt the same way tonight when I saw Barbara Jean.

She had the same "bug eyed" look Oprah did in '88 and it just didn't fit her imo. I truly believe some people's frames are just meant to carry more weight that when they lose too much, they don't look right or proportional anymore.

Melissa Peterson has a large frame and imo needs to carry more weight to look "normal" (I know that's a poor choice of words but it's the only way I can explain.

Also, it changes the character too. Barbara Jean's humor stems from her being a big gal imo. Making her stick thin takes away some of the core essence of that character. It's the same if Ethel Mertz walked out and was thinner than Lucy. She just wouldn't be "Ethel" anymore.

Even in the next 2 episodes I watched, there was something lost from the Barbara Jean character with the weight loss and she's not "Barbara Jean" anymore.

I think she's gained some of it back afterwards which is good because more weight just works better for her frame imo. I remember when she did that atrocious game show "Bet on your Baby" (Yes I was one of the 10 people who watched it lol) and she was a little chubbier again in that.

Kyra thankfully returns!! (and the irony isn't lost on me that she returns during an episode that's all about weight loss!) She only has those couple of in jokes about her condition and exits the stage. I wanted more Kyra and less Barbara Jean!!

It was a very funny episode still. When Van made fun of Reba doing her power walks heading to a sale on false teeth made me LOL...I guess now that i'm 50 I can appreciate old people humor. But the way he kept ragging on her power walks was really funny. :lol:

The story for this was Brock feeling insecure with the new BJ and asks Reba to spy on her workouts with her young hunky personal trainer. Reba wasn't the only one shocked at the outright sexual positions they bent their limbs getting into, but as soon as the trainer literally grabbed BJ's boob it was obvious he was going to turn out gay. Absolutely NO straight man would dare do that! :lol:

"Just Business"---A real estate firm wants to hire Van but not Reba and since they're partners, Van's loyalty lies with Reba and he's not interested. Reba wants him to accept the offer but he declines because Reba has done so much for him.

Van has been extra funny this season and the way he tells Cheyenne how Reba's a chatterbox was :lol:. It's another good episode only slightly brought down with Brock's second bout with mid life crisis and buying an electric ab blaster that "old people use when they give up" as Van says to Jake. :lol:

Brock also buys a Harley dresses like a biker in a leather gay bar and hideously perms his hair. It's not just any mid life crisis though---it's because his wife is now prettier than he is. Oh whatever---it's all so silly because he has a hot wife to bang and that's all he would be thinking of now.

But when he told Reba how he's always been the pretty one in his relationships it was really funny. As I said, I think the jokes are really good this season and better than past ones. It's a shame it's the last season just when things seem to be firing on all cylinders again. Ugh.

"Trading Spaces"----Definitely my favorite episode of the 3 watched tonight. Van turns the garage into a home office for him and Reba to become more productive and snag more clients.

Van shows Reba the transformed garage to Reba's delight, and just when he tells her how she has a genius for a son in law, he presses the garage door opener button and the whole wall of files lifts up and everything splatters all over the floor. I think I laughed out loud for a full minute at that. :rofl:

Later on he puts red tape all over the button with big letters saying "DON'T TOUCH!" but Kyra purposely presses it on the way out of the garage at the end of the episode and the wall flies up again and it was just as funny as the first time around. :lol:

Speaking of Kyra, when Reba reminds her that college of only 10 months away she decides she wants to move back home to spend those months with her Mom.

When she tells BJ about it she gets all crazed and drills a bolt and chain on her bedroom door to keep her there. The whole scene falls flat with stick thin BJ. It's funnier when she gets like this when she was fat. It's hard to explain.

It's like "The Kind of Queens"---remember when Carrie got fat and she was suddenly more bitchy but funnier? And on "Designing Women", after Suzanne got fat, she was funnier too. I think these kinds of characters just work best when they're a little chunky. Well, that's my personal theory and i'm sticking with it. :lol:

Tomorrow i'll watch 3 more. I hate that i'm getting close to the end of the series, especially since this season opened so well. Oh and Cheyenne is back to normal again!!

She even mentions that all that helping the needy was just a phase (thank God) and she's back to her shallow and flaky self again!! The train is back on it's track this season.

I almost forgot!! Cheyenne is pregnant again and she and Van are planning to move out and get their own place for their growing family. It seems they knew this was the final season and it's all being set up for closure, which is great because it will all be wrapped up nicely when it finishes. (at least I hope!) :wave:

Lorimar Television
09-27-2020, 04:15 AM
Tomorrow i'll watch 3 more. I hate that i'm getting close to the end of the series, especially since this season opened so well. Oh and Cheyenne is back to normal again!!

She even mentions that all that helping the needy was just a phase (thank God) and she's back to her shallow and flaky self again!! The train is back on it's track this season.

I almost forgot!! Cheyenne is pregnant again and she and Van are planning to move out and get their own place for their growing family. It seems they knew this was the final season and it's all being set up for closure, which is great because it will all be wrapped up nicely when it finishes. (at least I hope!) :wave:
Hooray :clap:party:

Glad to hear you are enjoying the final season. I agree they set up nicely for the last season. I guess I get what you're saying about Melissa, I still think Barbra Jean is funny though.

cfr1970
09-27-2020, 11:17 AM
Hooray :clap:party:

Glad to hear you are enjoying the final season. I agree they set up nicely for the last season. I guess I get what you're saying about Melissa, I still think Barbra Jean is funny though.

It's sad though because it seems that the writing is better and everything is working great that there's new life in the series now...and it's going to end in 10 episodes.

I think it should've gone on at least a couple of more seasons, but oh well. I'll enjoy these last 10 that I have left. :wave:

cfr1970
09-27-2020, 10:03 PM
“Roll With It”---Kind of a bizarre episode here. Kyra walks into the kitchen, opens the fridge, pulls out a beer and starts chugging it right in front of Reba---almost daring her to say something. Of course she does and a defiant Kyra is all “I’m 18 and can drink if I want.” :eek:

Um, no sweetie….until you’re 21 it’s against the law and Reba can get into trouble if word got out she allows her teen daughter to drink at home. I drank at 18 myself, but I wouldn’t dare do it at home in front of my Mom. I did my drinking out with friends and out of my parent's sight. :lol:

I wondered if she was purposely doing it to rebel, but then she said Brock & BJ allowed it over at their house so it wasn't rebellion. And OMG at that!...As Reba said…”Those two are dumber than a 5 pound sack of stupid.” Even their reasoning for it made no sense causing Reba to adjust that to a “10 pound sack of stupid”. :lol:

Even alcoholic Cheyenne sides with them too and tells Reba it should be ok to let her drink. Wow---it’s all very Twilight Zone because she of all people should be against it. And besides...it’s against the law!!

Then, after a strange guy strolls down the stairs one morning from Kyra’s room after spending the night, Reba finally puts her foot down and sets rules for no more drinking and no more boys sleeping over---even if it’s on the floor as he was the previous night. Go Reba!!

It was all weird because Kyra’s defiance seemed to come out of nowhere. Where was the buildup to this? I guess since she’s 18 she felt the need to test Reba to treat her like an adult...but she went about it all wrong.

There’s an uninteresting side story of Jake faking a disability to join a wheelchair basketball team that went nowhere and ended abruptly with him running up the stairs like he always does. I think they never knew just what to do with that poor kid. All in all it was a blah episode….oh and Brock’s hideous perm is thankfully gone.

“The Break Up”---Van is still being courted by the flashy realtor company that wants him. After telling Reba, who says it’s ok to take the job, he mentions he wants to keep his client list. Reba objects and I don’t understand why.

If he brought those clients in, then he has a right to keep them with his new job, but Reba won’t budge and she’s being pretty selfish imo. She makes him a bet for the client that she thinks he’ll lose. The bet is whoever sells a specific unsellable house that’s been on the market for a long time gets the list.

Van wins the bet selling the home which is near the loud airport, with constant flights overhead to a deaf person. Reba concedes and they make up, but I don’t get why Reba put up a fight in the first place if they were clients Van brought in himself.

The side story is Barbara Jean auditioning for a weather girl job. The audition scene would’ve been funnier imo when she was fat. I swear the character has lost something with the weight loss and I prefer fat BJ to thin BJ---she’s just funnier when chubby. Skinny BJ is not funny. :(

And skinny BJ is kind of a bitch too. Now that she’s thin she talks to Brock in a bitchy and condescending tone. The end scene where she told him she got the job and gloated before walking up the stairs acting like she was all that was pretty bitchy and I didn’t like her there. :mad:

This does happen with some women who lose a lot of weight though, and their inner bitch comes out after they drop the pounds. It was an ok episode though.

"Sweet Child O' Mine"---Feels like a rehashed episode where Cheyenne and Kyra are at odds with each other, have a heart to heart moment at the end and hug. I remember they did this exact same thing a few seasons ago.

And for an episode involving Kyra, her scenes are pretty short and few. The focus is more on Cheyenne here and I would’ve preferred more of Kyra. I guess after her being gone for a whole season, they don’t exactly know what to do with her anymore and she seems to be the odd girl out now.

It’s too bad they didn’t give her more to do for this final season, but then again perhaps that was her choice too and she didn’t want to work too much after recovering. I would’ve loved to have seen a story arc spanning a few episodes with Kyra at the center like they did when she wanted to move out. But oh well. I guess it wasn’t meant to be.

Another blah episode for me and so far the first 3 this season were the best. And weren’t Van and Cheyenne planning to move out?! She mentioned it a few episodes ago but they appear to have no plans to leave.

“Locked and Loaded”---Brock gets his vasectomy reversed so he can knock Barbara Jean up and bring them closer together. It feels like another rehashed episode where these two are once again having problems and on the verge of breaking up. You’d think they’d have come up with new stuff for this final season.

I’m wondering if they knew they only had a half season to wrap things up and decided to just coast till the end rather than be creative. I guess what’s the point when the end is drawing near?

Kyra again has small scenes where she pretty much just gives facial expressions to the other actors behavior and lines. And the whole Brock/BJ stuff is boring because we’ve been through it all before.

This would’ve been the perfect time to focus on Reba’s relationship with a new man while Van & Cheyenne move into a new place and maybe Kyra’s searching for the right college and wanting to go across the country to NY or something causing Reba to be against it.

There were so many possibilities for this season and with just 6 episodes to go, maybe there’s still time to squeeze it all in...but it looks like the next episode will deal with more Brock/BJ conflict. Ugh. :rolleyes:

Vans You Tube clip was pretty dumb, but it was funny that he put the doofus sign on his own back because he liked that it made him popular and people shouted on the street “Hey Doofus!” to him. :lol:

Last 6 episodes next week and by the way it’s going, I think it’s time to end it before it gets any worse! :wave:

Lorimar Television
09-28-2020, 01:25 AM
Hmm i disagree about SCOM being a rehash, they've had eps where they fight before but never really got down to the root of their issues. After this ep Kyra and Cheyenne no longer argue so it seems it resolved things.

Van and Cheyenne are still moving, it will be a focus soon.

cfr1970
09-28-2020, 10:44 AM
Hmm i disagree about SCOM being a rehash, they've had eps where they fight before but never really got down to the root of their issues. After this ep Kyra and Cheyenne no longer argue so it seems it resolved things.

Van and Cheyenne are still moving, it will be a focus soon.

I remember an earlier episode where they fought and it stemmed from their childhood and then they talked and made up just like in SCOM. I can't remember which exact episode it was but it was very similar to this one.

I see the episode before the last one is titled "The Housewarming", so that must be the move.

Christopher
09-28-2020, 08:24 PM
There were so many possibilities for this season and with just 6 episodes to go, maybe there’s still time to squeeze it all in...but it looks like the next episode will deal with more Brock/BJ conflict. Ugh. :rolleyes:



This is why I don't care for Reba after season 3. The later years feel like recycled plots of problems the couples are going through. Brock and BJ's relationship takes up a lot of screen time over the course of the show. I would have liked by season 6 that they were happy and didn't have anymore drama.

Did you notice BJ's obsession again with Reba as she's offering advice to Cheyenne in Sweet Child of Mine? I thought it was creepy she's right behind Reba and acting like she's a God. Her worshipping of Reba was stale by season 6 too.

There's other things of season 6 that I don't feel made sense by that point. There's one that stands out the most in the episode Cheyenne's Rival. I'll wait until you see it but there's a total contradiction on Van's part from the season 5 finale to his speech in that season 6 episode.

cfr1970
09-29-2020, 01:35 PM
This is why I don't care for Reba after season 3. The later years feel like recycled plots of problems the couples are going through. Brock and BJ's relationship takes up a lot of screen time over the course of the show. I would have liked by season 6 that they were happy and didn't have anymore drama.

Did you notice BJ's obsession again with Reba as she's offering advice to Cheyenne in Sweet Child of Mine? I thought it was creepy she's right behind Reba and acting like she's a God. Her worshipping of Reba was stale by season 6 too.

There's other things of season 6 that I don't feel made sense by that point. There's one that stands out the most in the episode Cheyenne's Rival. I'll wait until you see it but there's a total contradiction on Van's part from the season 5 finale to his speech in that season 6 episode.

The first 3 episodes of season 6 were good but took a downward slide after that with the plot rehashing. I agree the first 3 seasons are the best.

BJ's obsession with Reba is so old at this point and with her drastic weight loss, she's not even BJ anymore but POD BJ. :lol:

I notice her lower half is still kind of wide and chunky while her face if gaunt and thin and this makes her look sickly and disproportional. Whenever she's on screen now i'm too distracted by the weight loss to even pay attention to what she's doing now. IMO this transformation ruined the character.

I have the last 6 episodes to watch Saturday & Sunday and I just hope the series finale wraps everything up nicely. Looking back at the series in hindsight now, there seemed to be so many missed opportunities and as a whole the series was uneven imo.

Even though I didn't care for the Cheyenne alcoholic and then finding herself story, it was weird how they just dropped the whole thing at the start of season 6 instead of continuing that whole story arc.

And who knows all the stories Kyra would've had if she stayed during season 5? I think we would've seen a lot of good stuff there.

cfr1970
10-03-2020, 11:02 PM
"As We Forgive Those..."---This was a really funny one. I feel like an idiot because it wasn't until halfway through that I realized that was Kelly Clarkson playing Kelly the intern. I kept thinking she reminds me an awful lot of Reese Witherspoon, but it's not her. :lol:

I don't think i've ever seen her act before, but she was very natural and not bad at all.

My favorite scenes were of Van not wanting to name the new baby after Brock. And when Cheyenne told him Van was a weird name too, and he shoots back at Cheyenne's name and called her "Hiawatha" and "Pocahantas" :lol:

Still not warming up to skinny BJ and wouldn't mind if Kelly Clarkson had taken over the part---she was great as doppleganger BJ.

The last scene where they spooked American Idol was funny, and I was glad I figured out it was Kelly Clarkson before that scene came---I would've felt REALLY dumb at that point, so i'm glad I figured it out on my own even if it took half the episode. :lol:

Will watch 2 more tonight and final 3 tomorrow.

cfr1970
10-04-2020, 12:58 AM
"Bullets Over Brock"---This was a stinker. Brock is sleeping in Reba's garage because he told BJ he's away on business but just wants to get away from her. Oh good lord we've been around this block before---does anybody care at this point? They announce their divorce at the end but really--just do it and put us out of our misery already.

And wouldn't it have been so funny if Brock left BJ for a tall chubby blond? :lol:

The only thing that saved this episode was Van's psychotic break on the soccer field while coaching Jake's team. This season this character has been extra funny and are where all my laughs come from. It's sad that just when he gets really funny, the show's about to end. The things he says and does is LOL funny.


"Cheyenne's Rival"---Thankfully a good one after the last stinker. Van & Cheyenne are house shopping and Cheyenne just HAS to have a English Tudor style house.
Reba finds one in town, but it's being sold by Cheyenne's old HS rival...who has to be all of 22 years old and selling a house? Did her whole family die in a plane crash or something? It's a bit too young to be selling a home like that, but I just went along with it.

Hilarity ensues as Cheyenne and old rival trade barbs with one another while Reba is trying to get her to come down in price and sell her daughter the house--but their bickering and insulting is making things worse.

Van is hilarious when he ogles the hot rival and can't even get words out when speaking to her. When Reba tells the two women to make up....Van eagerly suggests they hug to make up. The way he said it while leering at them was hysterical, especially because he was saying this in front of and about his wife. :lol:

The side story was BJ and Brock boring me to tears having a "date" to discuss their impending divorce. It was all so dumb but the whole Cheyenne/rival story made up for that.

And the house they were buying was so weird. It was just a living room with nothing else. Cheyenne opened what looked like a closet door behind the stairs and said "nice kitchen"....but on the other side of that wall was clearly the front of the house. :lol:

And they were seriously ready to sign the papers without even looking through the whole house either! LOL...no one buys a house just looking at the living room!

Sure Van ran upstairs all of 30 seconds to look at the game room...but Cheyenne never left the living room at all! Then again, I remember when I bought my home and I literally did the same thing as Van. After walking inside, I instantly loved the layout, went through all the rooms in like 60 seconds and told the realtor "Call and make an offer right now! I want this!"....But at least I ran through all the rooms first. :lol:

Kyra sadly just makes 2 minute appearances and exits stage left. I seriously think the show just didn't know what to do with her when she came back, and it appears to me the actress playing her seemed tense and uncomfortable there. It makes me wonder if she wasn't warmly welcomed back by the cast/producers or just didn't want to be there. Or maybe i'm just reading into things too much...but that's the feeling I get when watching her. It's like she's not into things. :(

It's sad because in the first 3 seasons I was really liking her character.

Oh well....last 3 episodes tomorrow night! Part of me doesn't want to finish it because I began enjoying my Reba Saturday & Sunday nights. I'll start on Rhoda next week....but it just won't be the same. :violin:

Lorimar Television
10-04-2020, 02:39 AM
"As We Forgive Those..."---This was a really funny one. I feel like an idiot because it wasn't until halfway through that I realized that was Kelly Clarkson playing Kelly the intern. I kept thinking she reminds me an awful lot of Reese Witherspoon, but it's not her. :lol:

I don't think i've ever seen her act before, but she was very natural and not bad at all.

My favorite scenes were of Van not wanting to name the new baby after Brock. And when Cheyenne told him Van was a weird name too, and he shoots back at Cheyenne's name and called her "Hiawatha" and "Pocahantas" :lol:

Still not warming up to skinny BJ and wouldn't mind if Kelly Clarkson had taken over the part---she was great as doppleganger BJ.

The last scene where they spooked American Idol was funny, and I was glad I figured out it was Kelly Clarkson before that scene came---I would've felt REALLY dumb at that point, so i'm glad I figured it out on my own even if it took half the episode. :lol:

Will watch 2 more tonight and final 3 tomorrow.

LMAO! Agreed that was a good ep.

Lorimar Television
10-04-2020, 02:43 AM
"Cheyenne's Rival"---Thankfully a good one after the last stinker. Van & Cheyenne are house shopping and Cheyenne just HAS to have a English Tudor style house.
Reba finds one in town, but it's being sold by Cheyenne's old HS rival...who has to be all of 22 years old and selling a house? Did her whole family die in a plane crash or something? It's a bit too young to be selling a home like that, but I just went along with it.

Hilarity ensues as Cheyenne and old rival trade barbs with one another while Reba is trying to get her to come down in price and sell her daughter the house--but their bickering and insulting is making things worse.

Van is hilarious when he ogles the hot rival and can't even get words out when speaking to her. When Reba tells the two women to make up....Van eagerly suggests they hug to make up. The way he said it while leering at them was hysterical, especially because he was saying this in front of and about his wife. :lol:

The side story was BJ and Brock boring me to tears having a "date" to discuss their impending divorce. It was all so dumb but the whole Cheyenne/rival story made up for that.

And the house they were buying was so weird. It was just a living room with nothing else. Cheyenne opened what looked like a closet door behind the stairs and said "nice kitchen"....but on the other side of that wall was clearly the front of the house. :lol:

And they were seriously ready to sign the papers without even looking through the whole house either! LOL...no one buys a house just looking at the living room!

Sure Van ran upstairs all of 30 seconds to look at the game room...but Cheyenne never left the living room at all! Then again, I remember when I bought my home and I literally did the same thing as Van. After walking inside, I instantly loved the layout, went through all the rooms in like 60 seconds and told the realtor "Call and make an offer right now! I want this!"....But at least I ran through all the rooms first. :lol:

Kyra sadly just makes 2 minute appearances and exits stage left. I seriously think the show just didn't know what to do with her when she came back, and it appears to me the actress playing her seemed tense and uncomfortable there. It makes me wonder if she wasn't warmly welcomed back by the cast/producers or just didn't want to be there. Or maybe i'm just reading into things too much...but that's the feeling I get when watching her. It's like she's not into things. :(

It's sad because in the first 3 seasons I was really liking her character.

Oh well....last 3 episodes tomorrow night! Part of me doesn't want to finish it because I began enjoying my Reba Saturday & Sunday nights. I'll start on Rhoda next week....but it just won't be the same. :violin:
Haha ok so that's five eps you enjoyed! Two more and thats over half ;)

cfr1970
10-04-2020, 10:58 AM
Haha ok so that's five eps you enjoyed! Two more and thats over half ;)

With just 3 more episodes to go I hope I can do it. I really hope the finale is good and I don't hate it. This was overall a very good show so i'd hate to see it go out terrible.

Lorimar Television
10-04-2020, 07:03 PM
With just 3 more episodes to go I hope I can do it. I really hope the finale is good and I don't hate it. This was overall a very good show so i'd hate to see it go out terrible.

It wraps the show pretty nicely I'd say :wave:

JO Sweet Heart
10-04-2020, 09:44 PM
I love the smile on Reba's face as she listens to what Barbra Jean has to say about Kelly. :D :D :D

God bless you always!!! :) :) :)

Holly

cfr1970
10-04-2020, 09:58 PM
It wraps the show pretty nicely I'd say :wave:

I finally finished! :cheers:

"She's With The Band"---Finally a Kyra focused episode! She wants to focus on her band rather than go to college and Reba of course is against it. They fight, then discuss and make up and Kyra comes back home. I would've loved to have seen this story play out over a few episode arc rather than one episode. But i'm glad to see Kyra the center of attention at least for an episode.

Van & Cheyenne go furniture shopping and Van is hilarious trying to get comfortable on the hideous couch Cheyenne likes. I mean it was so ugly and uncomfortable looking that I don't think she would ever pick that for her home. Van was also funny with these idiotic ideas he came up with like a vibrating couch and pulling out his phone to remind himself of his new idea. I could see a Van & Cheyenne spin off...too bad it didn't happen.

Brock & BJ are still fighting and boring me!!

"The Housewarming"---More of Brock & BJ's separation taking center stage again....did anyone care at this point about these two? It's exhausting to the point where I just want to go back to the other characters.

Van & Cheyenne begin nesting in their new home and Reba still unable to completely let go starts popping in on them too much and they get so fed up that Van tells Reba the worst thing she can hear----That she's their Barbara Jean! :lol: That was so funny and it really did a number on poor Reba who went back home still reeling from that.

It ended with everything unresolved and I noticed that this and the finale played on the same night....so perhaps it was meant to be a 2 parter even though they have different titles?

The Kids Are Alright ----Van tries to fix the heater in the new home with a butter knife and causes a massive fire. His reaction to the flames was hysterical. :lol:

Of course Reba is delighted to have them back over at her house to stay while the home is repaired, but they wind up not even staying the night because they realize it's better to deal with their mistakes on their own and head back to the house at the end.

Brock & Barbara Jean again exhaust me with their separation. I really didn't care what happened to them at this point and when she announces her plan to move to Arkansas for her job I was like "Bye!" :wave:

In the end she decides to stay in Houston and work on her marriage to Brock. Reba is happy and actually calls BJ her best friend and they hug. Then everyone decides to take a family picture and Kyra and Jake appear from the kitchen even though everyone's acting like they were never really a central part of the show. :lol:

Really....Brock, BJ. Reba, Cheyenne and Van are all looking back together on the past 6 years together like it was always just them. No Kyra or Jake in sight that I began wondering if they were even going to be in the end scene or on the phone like FOL did to poor Natalie and Tootie her best friend of 9 years just hung up on her in the final few seconds. :lol:

But just as Van is setting up the camera, in walk a sullen Kyra & Jake like they knew they weren't really a part of this but took part because they had too.

Also telling is how Kyra is standing next to Cheyenne and her hands are folded in front of her rather than putting her arm around Cheyenne or vice versa. I suspect discord between them from that body language. Pictures always tell a deeper story!

Then it ended and i'm upset for 2 reasons....I have no more Reba to watch on weekend evenings anymore and that Reba ended without giving her a love interest. Even Van said what we all were probably thinking....poor Reba is all alone!

But she says she's not with her big dysfunctional family around her (neither Kyra or Jake was in the room when she said it!)

I would've liked to have seen Reba at least MEET someone that implied a lasting relationship to come for her....even if it were the final 30 seconds where she bumps into someone in the supermarket and their eyes meet telling us something good is coming for Reba ahead.

But no....she winds up a middle aged divorcee all alone forever and ever. :(

I'd love to see a reunion show where they all come back and we see Reba happily married with someone.

I think i'll wait a while and then pop in the first few seasons again. This is a show I can watch over--at least the first 3 seasons.

Well that's it for Reba!! Onto Rhoda next Saturday. I don't know if that's a show worthy of discussion, but if it is---i'll be heading over to the Rhoda board to either praise it or tear it apart! :lol::wave:

cfr1970
10-05-2020, 12:36 AM
I just realized that it's entirely possible for Cheyenne to be a grandmother by now since Elizabeth would be 18 and history repeated itself. :lol:

Lorimar Television
10-05-2020, 01:14 AM
I just realized that it's entirely possible for Cheyenne to be a grandmother by now since Elizabeth would be 18 and history repeated itself. :lol:

Haha you’re right! :crazy: I guess they still held out hope that there would be another season and they thought giving Reba a love interest would spell certain end for the series. The premise of the show is Reba being a divorcee. So what are your final thoughts on s6? Like the last 3 eps or...? I wouldn’t read much in that picture, Scarlett might still be self concours about her weight and just wanted to keep to herself. Who knows? Kyra and Cheyenne in real life are all friends as well as the entire cast, they have a group text they talk everyday. The only one not in this is Jake, I guess he was too young to develop a lasting bond like the rest.

cfr1970
10-05-2020, 01:35 AM
Haha you’re right! :crazy: I guess they still held out hope that there would be another season and they thought giving Reba a love interest would spell certain end for the series. The premise of the show is Reba being a divorcee. So what are your final thoughts on s6? Like the last 3 eps or...? I wouldn’t read much in that picture, Scarlett might still be self concours about her weight and just wanted to keep to herself. Who knows? Kyra and Cheyenne in real life are all friends as well as the entire cast, they have a group text they talk everyday. The only one not in this is Jake, I guess he was too young to develop a lasting bond like the rest.

I'm happy to be proven wrong in my impression of the picture and that they're all close today and group text. I love that! I guess Scarlett was still feeling a little insecure being back which is understandable and it showed a little in her acting.

As far as my final impressions of season 6?....What I noticed most of all (other than Melissa's massive weight loss) was how funnier the character of Van became.

Before season 6 he was kind of dumb and goofy, but in the final season he was just funnier both with is lines and his acting. Most of his scenes in s6 had me LOL when in earlier seasons i'd just roll my eyes at his stupidity. :lol:

Reba thankfully never changed and stayed consistent through the entire series and I like that. I just hate there wasn't a final season to set up for her long term happiness with a partner. But they emphasized in the end how her family brings her happiness....but like Van said in the end "SHE'S ALL ALONE!!" :lol:

Brock & BJ were insufferable by s6. I just couldn't take either one of them, so in a nutshell it's Van, Cheyenne and Reba who make that final season work and without them it would've been unwatchable imo.

I hope one day they get together for a reunion show but sadly I don't think the show was ever that big to warrant one. :(

At least I have the dvds to watch over again whenever I want. It's definitely a show i'd revisit again. :):wave:

Lorimar Television
10-05-2020, 01:42 AM
Well that’s awesome that it warrants a rewatch for you! I rewatch it constantly. I agree Van has great comedic timing and really shines in s6. A spin off with Cheyenne and Van would’ve been great to me too.

Reba has lots of fans who will watch anything with her in it. The final season was the highest rated comedy on the new CW, and the show is constantly rerun on tv. I could definitely see it coming back for a reunion or revival.

JO Sweet Heart
10-05-2020, 07:10 AM
Well that's it for Reba!! Onto Rhoda next Saturday. I don't know if that's a show worthy of discussion, but if it is---i'll be heading over to the Rhoda board to either praise it or tear it apart! :lol::wave:
Forgive me if I overlooked it, but what is your overall grade for this show now that you have seen it all? Was it worth every second or nothing but a complete and total waste of time?

God bless you always!!!

Holly

cfr1970
10-05-2020, 11:29 AM
Forgive me if I overlooked it, but what is your overall grade for this show now that you have seen it all? Was it worth every second or nothing but a complete and total waste of time?

God bless you always!!!

Holly

If I were rating it on a 1 to 10 scale I'd put it at a solid 7. There were things that took away ratings for me like the recycled plots and the unevenness of the overall show especially from season 5 to 6 where storylines were just dropped.

Also Kyra's season long absence made a dent on things too but of course that's not her fault. And BJ's antics were a bit over the top at times for me. By the end I wanted to toss her out a window! 🤣

And not giving Reba a partner in the end was not what I would've chose. After 6 seasons it would've been a nice way to close the show giving her happiness in a new relationship.

But I still loved the show and a 7 is a good rating imo. :):wave:

Christopher
10-05-2020, 12:16 PM
"Cheyenne's Rival"---Thankfully a good one after the last stinker. Van & Cheyenne are house shopping and Cheyenne just HAS to have a English Tudor style house.


I don't care for this episode. It contradicts what Van said to Cheyenne in the season 5 finale. He said he always loved Cheyenne for how she was before she tried being a better person. Now in this episode, we're told Van couldn't stand her and wanted a way out of not having to date her in high school? I can't stand how they always need the useless drama between the couples in the show.

cfr1970
10-05-2020, 01:53 PM
I don't care for this episode. It contradicts what Van said to Cheyenne in the season 5 finale. He said he always loved Cheyenne for how she was before she tried being a better person. Now in this episode, we're told Van couldn't stand her and wanted a way out of not having to date her in high school? I can't stand how they always need the useless drama between the couples in the show.

To be fair, that is going way back to HS when they were 17--and possibly even earlier if they dated a while---so maybe even 16. And from what I gather that the rival was saying, this was before they even started dating so probably didn't even know each other that well.

So i'd give that a pass since they were both young teens and i'm sure his feelings changed once he started dating Cheyenne.

Lorimar Television
10-05-2020, 05:49 PM
I don't care for this episode. It contradicts what Van said to Cheyenne in the season 5 finale. He said he always loved Cheyenne for how she was before she tried being a better person. Now in this episode, we're told Van couldn't stand her and wanted a way out of not having to date her in high school? I can't stand how they always need the useless drama between the couples in the show.

That doesnt contradict that. S2 ep 8 Switch we found out Van had his buddy call him to say his dog ate a spark plug to get out of a bad date. Cheyenne replies that she was with him then. Clearly they didnt hit it off at first.

Lorimar Television
10-05-2020, 05:50 PM
If I were rating it on a 1 to 10 scale I'd put it at a solid 7. There were things that took away ratings for me like the recycled plots and the unevenness of the overall show especially from season 5 to 6 where storylines were just dropped.

Also Kyra's season long absence made a dent on things too but of course that's not her fault. And BJ's antics were a bit over the top at times for me. By the end I wanted to toss her out a window! 🤣

And not giving Reba a partner in the end was not what I would've chose. After 6 seasons it would've been a nice way to close the show giving her happiness in a new relationship.

But I still loved the show and a 7 is a good rating imo. :):wave:

I'd say 7 is a fantastic rating! You never said whether or not you liked the last 3 episodes though. You seemed to but is s6 a 5/13 an 8/13 or something else? :lol:

cfr1970
10-06-2020, 12:51 AM
I'd say 7 is a fantastic rating! You never said whether or not you liked the last 3 episodes though. You seemed to but is s6 a 5/13 an 8/13 or something else? :lol:


I liked "She's With the Band" because it was a Kyra focused episode, and I liked "The Housewarming" because of the fire Van started. :lol:

The finale "The Kids Are Alright" for Van, Cheyenne & Reba. You're not going to like me for this because I know you love Barbara Jean...but by these last 3 episodes, she annoyed the crap out of me. :lol:

I wish the last 3 episodes had more focus on Van, Cheyenne and Kyra and less Brock & BJ stuff and I felt their separation and bickering detracted from things because we've seen all that before.

I still enjoyed the last 3 episodes so added to the 5 I liked out of the others---that makes it 8 out of 13 which isn't bad.

The standouts for me are "Trading Spaces" and "As We Forgive Those" with Kelly Clarkson. (I still feel like an idiot for thinking she was Reese Witherspoon till I realized it was Kelly). :lol:

Lorimar Television
10-06-2020, 01:38 AM
I liked "She's With the Band" because it was a Kyra focused episode, and I liked "The Housewarming" because of the fire Van started. :lol:

The finale "The Kids Are Alright" for Van, Cheyenne & Reba. You're not going to like me for this because I know you love Barbara Jean...but by these last 3 episodes, she annoyed the crap out of me. :lol:

I wish the last 3 episodes had more focus on Van, Cheyenne and Kyra and less Brock & BJ stuff and I felt their separation and bickering detracted from things because we've seen all that before.

I still enjoyed the last 3 episodes so added to the 5 I liked out of the others---that makes it 8 out of 13 which isn't bad.

The standouts for me are "Trading Spaces" and "As We Forgive Those" with Kelly Clarkson. (I still feel like an idiot for thinking she was Reese Witherspoon till I realized it was Kelly). :lol:
Honestly I get it about BJ. My fav char was always Cheyenne so idc if you dislike bj :lol:. 8 of 13 is def good. Over half! More than FOL s9 was lol.

cfr1970
10-06-2020, 11:01 AM
Honestly I get it about BJ. My fav char was always Cheyenne so idc if you dislike bj :lol:. 8 of 13 is def good. Over half! More than FOL s9 was lol.

This was definitely a better final season than FOL was imo. I forgot how many episodes of FOL final season I liked out of the total, but I remember so many stinkers and Reba wasn't nearly as bad. :lol:

Lorimar Television
10-06-2020, 06:15 PM
This was definitely a better final season than FOL was imo. I forgot how many episodes of FOL final season I liked out of the total, but I remember so many stinkers and Reba wasn't nearly as bad. :lol:

Haha I know it was like 10 out of 24

cfr1970
10-06-2020, 06:39 PM
Haha I know it was like 10 out of 24

It's a shame JoAnna Garcia who played Cheyenne hasn't done all that much after Reba ended. Looking at her Wikipedia page, it seems she only did a few guest roles on other shows and only a couple of what looks like direct to video movies.

I think she would've been good in another sitcom right after Reba finished.

Lorimar Television
10-06-2020, 07:48 PM
It's a shame JoAnna Garcia who played Cheyenne hasn't done all that much after Reba ended. Looking at her Wikipedia page, it seems she only did a few guest roles on other shows and only a couple of what looks like direct to video movies.

I think she would've been good in another sitcom right after Reba finished.

She was actually a main in a lot of shows after Reba but unfortunately all lasted only one season. Comedies like Welcome to the captain (lasted six eps, wasn’t a very good show imo) and Better With You (lasted a full season and a very good show imo, even had Reba guest star. Also starred Debra Jo Rupp and Jennifer Finnigan). She was star of CW drama privileged as well. She has a show now on Netflix called Sweet magnolias which is her first show since Reba to get renewed for a second season, it’s pretty popular.

cfr1970
10-07-2020, 12:51 AM
She was actually a main in a lot of shows after Reba but unfortunately all lasted only one season. Comedies like Welcome to the captain (lasted six eps, wasn’t a very good show imo) and Better With You (lasted a full season and a very good show imo, even had Reba guest star. Also starred Debra Jo Rupp and Jennifer Finnigan). She was star of CW drama privileged as well. She has a show now on Netflix called Sweet magnolias which is her first show since Reba to get renewed for a second season, it’s pretty popular.

Sadly, I never heard of any of those shows, but i'm glad she's currently working steady on something. I looked at the Sweet Magnolias Wiki page and see Brooke Elliott is also in it from Drop Dead Diva which I really liked. I hate Netflix and will never give them my money, so i'll have to wait until it ever comes for free to stream somewhere else to see it.

Lorimar Television
10-07-2020, 02:59 AM
Sadly, I never heard of any of those shows, but i'm glad she's currently working steady on something. I looked at the Sweet Magnolias Wiki page and see Brooke Elliott is also in it from Drop Dead Diva which I really liked. I hate Netflix and will never give them my money, so i'll have to wait until it ever comes for free to stream somewhere else to see it.

I’m sure there’s some sites you can watch it on for free