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rusty spike 06-07-2020, 10:56 PM When watching the series on netflix, the G rating pops up with the words Fear and Violence.
Has anyone else noticed this?
FYI- Netflix has an onscreen notice that TAGS will be leaving their lineup 7-1-2020.
GentlemanJim 06-08-2020, 09:03 AM When watching the series on netflix, the G rating pops up with the words Fear and Violence.
Has anyone else noticed this?
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I guess that Floyd's brutality with those scissors has finally been construed as intolerance? :crazy:
Torgo 06-08-2020, 12:39 PM Aunt Bee is scary.
cbikle 06-08-2020, 03:08 PM There were a few episodes that involved criminals and the potential of violence and I think I remember a few episodes with actual violence.
GentlemanJim 06-08-2020, 04:29 PM Whenever Briscoe Darling and the boys are around, I guess there is an implied threat that things could turn for the worse with just one careless comment.
vitoscotti 06-08-2020, 04:40 PM Whenever Briscoe Darling and the boys are around, I guess there is an implied threat that things could turn for the worse with just one careless comment.
Never got that impression. The show is an escape from political correctness, and hyper monitoring of what people say to use against them like in today's crazy world.
GentlemanJim 06-08-2020, 07:26 PM Never got that impression..
Perhaps the threat is just below your threshold of detection?
Darling is the only character* in the series who dictates to the Sheriff "the ways things are gonna be" where the sheriff actually humors him....and there is always that panned shot that shows the sheriff would be dealing not only with Briscoe, but the entire clan.
I think the threat is real.
Of course, I have lived on the brink of Applachia before, so i know first hand how quickly those smiles can "go Deliverance" on you, if you fail to go with the program. :D
I don't believe that they sent Aunt Bee to the Darling household in "Briscoe declares for Aunt Bee" just to keep from bruising feelings. There is definitely an air of forced compliance.
* (edit add) other than the mayor
GentlemanJim 06-08-2020, 08:16 PM Additionally, I don't recall the episode name, but there is a sequence where Andy and Barney are trying to undo some omen by sneaking out and burying something under a tree.
The Darlings catch them, and it is definitely a sphincter-clenching moment for them when they get caught. There is definitely some intimidation there. People don't sneak around afraid of their own shadows for personal amusement.
vitoscotti 06-09-2020, 09:36 AM Additionally, I don't recall the episode name, but there is a sequence where Andy and Barney are trying to undo some omen by sneaking out and burying something under a tree.
The Darlings catch them, and it is definitely a sphincter-clenching moment for them when they get caught. There is definitely some intimidation there. People don't sneak around afraid of their own shadows for personal amusement.
You do realize it's a sitcom? All always turns out well? They're always welcome at the Taylor home in the end. The Darlings are harmless.
GentlemanJim 06-09-2020, 09:59 AM Then, of course, there is the ethnic-fueled vendetta of Ernest T against Malcom Meriwether (Malcom at the cross roads)
Not to mention every soccer mom's nightmare: Opie and the Bully. With the sheriff actually encouraging a fist 2 fist show-down and ending with battle damage.
And then there was that decades-long pugilists show-down "The case of a punch in the nose" with even mild mannered Floyd caught up in the heat of the moment.
And who can forget that brute Al in Mt Pilot who blackened Andy's eye in "Barney mends a broken heart"?
And the two farmers selling illegal produce in "Lawman Barney" with their serial threats.
"Barney's Uniform" with the deft ringer Andy hand selects to administer a beating?
Scary Luke Comstock and his suspect motives in giving a "gift" to Andy?
The electrified cash register at Wally's garage.
The hostage in the mobile home in the episode "Jailbreak"
While none of these episodes threatens my personal sense of decency, considering the likelihood that children might be in the viewing audience there does seem to be an element that crosses with modern day thinking that "violence can never be the solution"
I don't think the rating lies with the show being dangerous so much as it simply reflects the quivering mass of sensitivities that our society has become, "don't blame me for not teaching my child right from wrong, blame TV violence".
GentlemanJim 06-09-2020, 10:07 AM And the legend of old man Rimshaw and his axe definitely would have the Fred Rogers crowd spilling their marshmallows and hot co co all over the floor
GentlemanJim 06-09-2020, 11:35 AM And, I'd just like to add, that the "electrified cash register" likely gives the series a deserved rating for violence all on its own.
I remember that looked like an absolutely brilliant solution to my young mind the first time I saw the episode. I wanted to employ that technology myself, except at 7 years old, I don't think I had the resources or know how.
So yeah,put the "V" rating on the entire series, just to shield from parents who might otherwise claim that the failure to warn them was negligent.
GentlemanJim 06-09-2020, 04:30 PM And then there is Luke Ranier
Mr. Television 06-09-2020, 05:04 PM Ernest T shouldn't have thrown those rocks. I don't know how I survived such violence.
Hazel Anyday 06-09-2020, 08:41 PM Oh, my shattered nerves. Just listening to all the horrors that the Andy Griffith Show portrayed. How, oh how, could I ever have survived "The horror", as Marlon Brando says in Apocalypse Now. I hope all the little delicate flakes of today will be told to hang on to their beanies as Andy is now going to have to be Rated X by those that know so much better than we, the unwashed.
GentlemanJim 06-09-2020, 10:01 PM "The Loaded Goat" would probably offend some groups, as well.
GentlemanJim 06-09-2020, 10:11 PM I also just read that HBO is taking Elmer Fudd's rifle away, and making him hunt wabbits with a scythe
Hazel Anyday 06-09-2020, 11:08 PM Come on, you ought to know. Why you just ain't nobody unless you can feign to be offended at any least little thing. Why, I'm offended by all those others who are constantly offended. Isn't it wonderful to be always offended? But, with all our self-righteous offense being constantly taken, are we a happier world?:rolleyes: I sincerely hope not. Esp. to all those who are always offended.:D
GentlemanJim 06-10-2020, 09:54 AM I'm watching an episode from the color era, season 8's "Howard's Main Event", with our old friend Allan Melvin.
Once again ...fear, intimidation, and bluster......
GentlemanJim 06-10-2020, 10:08 AM Come on, you ought to know. Why you just ain't nobody unless you can feign to be offended at any least little thing. Why, I'm offended by all those others who are constantly offended. Isn't it wonderful to be always offended? But, with all our self-righteous offense being constantly taken, are we a happier world?:rolleyes: I sincerely hope not. Esp. to all those who are always offended.:D
Approx 25 years ago,California really souped up it's "workplace harassment" protections, and made even nearly benign events targets for litigation. Literally even the wrong look in your eye could cost your employers big, and then by default, cost you your job.
It was such a big deal that they brought consultants in to help us transition into the "new era".
I recall that one guy they brought in was a lawyer, and he told us that the actual intent of the "offender" really isn't relevant. It's up to the person claiming offense to determine what's "offensive".
I guess that goes a long ways towards explaining how little Bo peep turned that bee in her bonnet into empowerment?
Of course, it probably helps to know the 800 number for a handful of fortune 500 companies so you can threaten a boycott.
Scrabjan1 06-14-2020, 10:36 AM This post is hilarious. Imagine sticking a warning to parents that TAGS contains fear and violence. Over the top for sure!!
Samme 06-14-2020, 11:55 AM The sad part is Netflix taking it off. They had the best picture quality I've ever seen for the show. The color episodes look great. If I bought one of those Cloner boxes they would be the first thing I'd record. We may not see it in that quality again.
GentlemanJim 06-14-2020, 03:29 PM https://i.imgur.com/X6mZbcf.jpg
I guess that is what this thread is about isn't it? Those V-chip triggers that they put on all programming now to allow parents to shelter their children via "parental controls"
So, I don't think that it's so much a matter of someone singling out TAGS as a notorious offender. I think it's more a matter of the content provider having to label it anyways, and based upon a few instances that do qualify as borderline violent, simply put a tag on the whole series that would protect them from some karen who might otherwise try to stir up a storm with them at it's center? There is a definite risk of under rating precautions, especially when self professed moralists are on crusade. Better safe than sorry.
I've seen those "violence" tags affixed to Bugs Bunny/Roadrunner cartoons
vitoscotti 06-15-2020, 04:13 AM Is this thread a prank? There should be "The Twilight Zone" music playing in the background or this; https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F9DJJQm19OM
stevea 06-15-2020, 08:05 AM Check on the TV Guide for MeTV TAGS. All PG.
It's ridiculous, but if you think like the PC police, you could probably find something to be offended by in every episode. Ernest T. picks up "Romena" and carries her off, horrors!
So, the parent must "guide" their child through things like that. "Now, Johnny, you must not pick up a woman and carry her away like Ernest T." Johnny isn't listening--he's ROFL about Ernest T. Johnny is smart.
GentlemanJim 06-15-2020, 12:05 PM Is this thread a prank? There should be "The Twilight Zone" music playing in the background or this; https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F9DJJQm19OM
Moralists seem to always favor riding a "high horse".
They are ":evolved" and not amused by slapstick violence the way we uncivilized "animals" are.
GentlemanJim 06-15-2020, 12:39 PM I'd think that Dick Van Dyke would be similarly branded for that nasty tumble he takes over the footstool, and goodness only knows how Granny Clampett's shotgun antics must torment the refined ruling class?
GentlemanJim 06-18-2020, 12:15 PM And lets not forget this sequence from "My fair Ernest T Bass". When Howard Morris is snarling "Who are you calling a creature?" at poor defenseless Mrs Wiley...there is no way to sugar coat that Nobody is laughing, nobody is smiling
https://youtu.be/Us17OAaCfq4?t=59
Will Dockery 04-13-2021, 06:58 AM Then, of course, there is the ethnic-fueled vendetta of Ernest T against Malcom Meriwether (Malcom at the cross roads)
Not to mention every soccer mom's nightmare: Opie and the Bully. With the sheriff actually encouraging a fist 2 fist show-down and ending with battle damage.
And then there was that decades-long pugilists show-down "The case of a punch in the nose" with even mild mannered Floyd caught up in the heat of the moment.
And who can forget that brute Al in Mt Pilot who blackened Andy's eye in "Barney mends a broken heart"?
And the two farmers selling illegal produce in "Lawman Barney" with their serial threats.
"Barney's Uniform" with the deft ringer Andy hand selects to administer a beating?
Scary Luke Comstock and his suspect motives in giving a "gift" to Andy?
The electrified cash register at Wally's garage.
The hostage in the mobile home in the episode "Jailbreak"
While none of these episodes threatens my personal sense of decency, considering the likelihood that children might be in the viewing audience there does seem to be an element that crosses with modern day thinking that "violence can never be the solution"
I don't think the rating lies with the show being dangerous so much as it simply reflects the quivering mass of sensitivities that our society has become, "don't blame me for not teaching my child right from wrong, blame TV violence".
Opie got another black eye from Helen Crump's niece in a color episode also.
I like the camera trickery with the Rimshaw house which seems to be a good ways from Andy's street but is actually right next door to Andy.
https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.18172-8/10974512_947262655286922_2590190186128954371_o.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=cdbe9c&_nc_ohc=ekfdRfP3G0UAX-M2vOJ&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&oh=b51bc489e220e2ff41ad26ce3c6a02ff&oe=609C095E
Will Dockery 04-13-2021, 07:36 AM I'm watching an episode from the color era, season 8's "Howard's Main Event", with our old friend Allan Melvin.
Once again ...fear, intimidation, and bluster......
Allan Melvin was constantly up to no good in Mayberry!
Check out the Professor from Land of the Giants looking like a peeping Tom on Andy's front porch.
https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.18172-8/10497139_947262685286919_1943219296345980623_o.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=cdbe9c&_nc_ohc=ZDD8TbbjrkEAX-VE5QO&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&oh=371466c2f596b00c7b0e88a37c7a4f89&oe=6099EB19
Will Dockery 04-15-2021, 01:57 PM When watching the series on netflix, the G rating pops up with the words Fear and Violence.
Has anyone else noticed this?
FYI- Netflix has an onscreen notice that TAGS will be leaving their lineup 7-1-2020.
The horrifying Rimshaw house... right next door to Andy.
http://retroweb.com/40acres_tour.html
Will Dockery 04-16-2021, 08:13 PM When watching the series on netflix, the G rating pops up with the words Fear and Violence.
Has anyone else noticed this?
FYI- Netflix has an onscreen notice that TAGS will be leaving their lineup 7-1-2020.
https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/174527839_10159844288889363_3158656191613541158_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8631f5&_nc_ohc=g-sR5IrhJJEAX_TImzv&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&oh=e0bf22b6edda6d0ca3808bd7fbfb53a9&oe=609ECAE5
Mayberry on the Edge of Forever.
GentlemanJim 04-22-2021, 11:54 AM https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/174527839_10159844288889363_3158656191613541158_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8631f5&_nc_ohc=g-sR5IrhJJEAX_TImzv&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&oh=e0bf22b6edda6d0ca3808bd7fbfb53a9&oe=609ECAE5
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I don't get it? So does that mean that Ben Weaver was on top of the barbershop when he was snooping through the jail cell window in the Christmas episode?
Will Dockery 04-24-2021, 10:53 AM I don't get it? So does that mean that Ben Weaver was on top of the barbershop when he was snooping through the jail cell window in the Christmas episode?
I'm thinking that Floyd's barber shop is really small and opens out into the area Ben Weaver was in?
Didn't Floyd mention having a garden out back in one (probably color) episode?
GentlemanJim 04-24-2021, 12:10 PM I'm thinking that Floyd's barber shop is really small and opens out into the area Ben Weaver was in?
Didn't Floyd mention having a garden out back in one (probably color) episode?
Weaver was peering in through the window of the front-most cell, where only a narrow closet (or in later seasons, a free standing room heater) stood between the cell and the front facade of the courthouse.. SO, at most the window would be 11-12 feet from the sidewalk
Even more mysterious, the window in the other cell (Otis' cell) comes and goes from episode to episode. Must be from when Barney pulled the bars off with the squad car? :D
Will Dockery 04-25-2021, 10:49 PM Weaver was peering in through the window of the front-most cell, where only a narrow closet (or in later seasons, a free standing room heater) stood between the cell and the front facade of the courthouse.. SO, at most the window would be 11-12 feet from the sidewalk
Even more mysterious, the window in the other cell (Otis' cell) comes and goes from episode to episode. Must be from when Barney pulled the bars off with the squad car? :D
I suppose we have to have the "willful suspension of disbelief" on such matters.
GentlemanJim 04-28-2021, 07:49 PM Malcom at the Crossroads, Barney's Uniform, Lawman Barney, The Haunted House, My Fair Ernest T Bass, Convicts at Large, A Feud is a Feud, Andy the Marriage Counselor, Barney gets His Man, Opie and the Bully, Barney Mends a Broken Heart, One Punch Opie, High Noon in Maytberry, Mountain Wedding, Ernest T Bass Joins the Army, Briscoe Declares for Aunt Bee, Barney's Bloodhound, The Case of the Punch in the Nose, and Banjo Playing Deputy
All either use some form of direct violence or the threat of same as a plot device.
That's where the advisory messages come from.
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