I noticed a couple of times Molly gave the same advice as Mrs. G., but in a different style.

In Dieting, Molly tells Sue Ann that it's stupid for Sue Ann to starve herself for a stupid boy she never met and Mrs. G. says the same thing to Sue Ann later on, but in a much more subtle and caring way. Sue Ann at 15 to17 probably would listen to a caring adult more than someone young enough to be her annoying younger sister who hasn't even hit puberty yet.

In another episode that I forgot which one (this was not the major theme), Molly chided Tootie for knowingly taking the wrong change from the pizza parlor while Mrs. G. would tell Tootie the story of Mrs. G. working as a clerk in her younger days and any shortage of change came out of her paycheck. Mrs. G. provided a more gentle rebuttal of why what Tootie did was wrong.

Molly Parker has some sound advice, but comes across as too direct and abrasive. Similar to how Molly Ringwald can sound sometimes.

Good point! Give Molly Parker a few decades and maybe she can become a cause-rallying guitar-playing ham radio-using photographer who gives young girls good advice!

Yes Molly being an ultra feminist tends to give advice a lot

That pizza scene is always dang tricky to place. It stands out so much, yet has nothing to do with the man story. It's either "Emily Dickinson" or "The Facts of Love".

I noticed a couple of times Molly gave the same advice as Mrs. G., but in a different style.

In Dieting, Molly tells Sue Ann that it's stupid for Sue Ann to starve herself for a stupid boy she never met and Mrs. G. says the same thing to Sue Ann later on, but in a much more subtle and caring way. Sue Ann at 15 to17 probably would listen to a caring adult more than someone young enough to be her annoying younger sister who hasn't even hit puberty yet.

In another episode that I forgot which one (this was not the major theme), Molly chided Tootie for knowingly taking the wrong change from the pizza parlor while Mrs. G. would tell Tootie the story of Mrs. G. working as a clerk in her younger days and any shortage of change came out of her paycheck. Mrs. G. provided a more gentle rebuttal of why what Tootie did was wrong.

Molly Parker has some sound advice, but comes across as too direct and abrasive. Similar to how Molly Ringwald can sound sometimes.

This is a really good post, for several reasons.

I think you've revealed why Mrs. Garrett's advice is so effective: she's often very subtle about it. She takes a very gentle approach. For example, in "Dieting", Mr. Bradley makes a comment saying that essentially, he's going to march upstairs and force Sue Ann to eat. That was never going to work, and the very idea is childlike in its stupidity. Mrs. Garrett's calm discussion is much more helpful in this situation.

As you say, Molly is very forceful, much like a social justice warrior today would be. But that "direct, abrasive" approach has consequences: it can actually turn people off from listening.

Mrs. Garrett's advice was not only helpful to the girls, it was helpful to millions of viewers who needed some subtle, patiently-delivered advice: be mad and let it all out; don't let other people tell you who you are inside; don't let other people determine what's best for you; take care of yourself. These are universal messages.

in "Dieting", Mr. Bradley makes a comment saying that essentially, he's going to march upstairs and force Sue Ann to eat.

Mrs. Garrett says, "I'm not gonna let you upstairs and rip into Sue Ann!" (poster's emphasis, lol)


That was never going to work, and the very idea is childlike in its stupidity. Mrs. Garrett's calm discussion is much more helpful in this situation.

But kind of expected since Mr. Bradley was a man with a short fuse, and a man without kids.

Good morning RetroVampireGuy! You've started posting at this hour! My, you got up late today! ;) :lol:

Mrs. Garrett says, "I'm not gonna let you upstairs and rip into Sue Ann!" (poster's emphasis, lol)




But kind of expected since Mr. Bradley was a man with a short fuse, and a man without kids.

Good morning RetroVampireGuy! You've started posting at this hour! My, you got up late today! ;) :lol:

:lol:

Mrs. Garrett says, "I'm not gonna let you upstairs and rip into Sue Ann!" (poster's emphasis, lol)

Exactly: she realizes how damaging his approach actually could be. She describes it as ripping into her. As in, tearing part of her psyche. How damaging would that have been? Mrs. Garrett knows you can't do that to a girl obsessed with losing even more weight.


But kind of expected since Mr. Bradley was a man with a short fuse, and a man without kids.

And... just a man. And I don't want to get into stereotyping too much, but how is a 40-something year-old man going to know what to say to a teenage girl to make her feel better about her weight?


Good morning RetroVampireGuy! You've started posting at this hour! My, you got up late today! ;) :lol:

Haha! :lol:

I've been up for many hours, but I had some serious gardening chores and a small BBQ to prepare for!

Exactly: she realizes how damaging his approach actually could be. She describes it as ripping into her. As in, tearing part of her psyche. How damaging would that have been? Mrs. Garrett knows you can't do that to a girl obsessed with losing even more weight.



And... just a man. And I don't want to get into stereotyping too much, but how is a 40-something year-old man going to know what to say to a teenage girl to make her feel better about her weight?



Haha! :lol:

I've been up for many hours, but I had some serious gardening chores and a small BBQ to prepare for!



I don't think MR BRADLEY was quite that old: on the episode 'Flash flood', when BLAIR has a crush on him he tells her he's old enough to be her father, in which she replies "barely...." (meaning he was probably 35 if BLAIR was 15):bash::bash::bash:

And... just a man. And I don't want to get into stereotyping too much, but how is a 40-something year-old man going to know what to say to a teenage girl to make her feel better about her weight?

Oh, just about how a 40-something-year-old man who "rips into" FOL in his weekly TV critic reviews is supposed to know how a show geared for teenage girls should be (from one of the FOL documentaries or online articles, but I can't remember which one).


Haha! :lol:

I've been up for many hours, but I had some serious gardening chores and a small BBQ to prepare for!

Oh! Yes, I'll accept the invitation to the BBQ, thanks! :wave: I'll even bring cheese dip! ;)

I don't think MR BRADLEY was quite that old: on the episode 'Flash flood', when BLAIR has a crush on him he tells her he's old enough to be her father, in which she replies "barely...." (meaning he was probably 35 if BLAIR was 15):bash::bash::bash:

Well you're not too far off, valentina; I mean, we don't know his age, but John Lawlor the actor was 38 at the time!

Steven: "Blair, I'm old enough to be your father!"
Blair: "Barely!"
Steven: "This is true."

:lol:

And hey, 80s Dude and gang, there's another forceful Molly "Mrs. Garrettism"!

"Running". Molly blasts Sue Ann with, "You're both acting stupid! You guys have been best friends all year! How can you hate each other now??"

Wow, it really is interesting how often Molly was the voice of reason, but she wouldn't be taken seriously by the older girls because, yes, she was the age for them to see her as an "annoying little sister".

I've been up for many hours, but I had some serious gardening chores and a small BBQ to prepare for!

Oooh a BBQ! Nice. Hope you all maintained at least 6 feet apart though ;)

John Lawlor definitely was old enough to be Lisa's father. He was born the same year my mother was and I am one year younger than Lisa.

Oh, just about how a 40-something-year-old man who "rips into" FOL in his weekly TV critic reviews is supposed to know how a show geared for teenage girls should be (from one of the FOL documentaries or online articles, but I can't remember which one).

I think there's a difference, though: in one case, we have a man who has never been a parent and who previously only worked at a boys' school. He's decided he's going to go up to Sue Ann's room and lay down the law by ordering her to eat. Mrs. Garrett knows how wrong he is, and how damaging that could be to her. We have the show itself telling us that he's mistaken to try to solve the issue himself: he's never been in her position before.

In the other, we have a man who has watched this show and others Monday Morning quarterbacking (https://www.dictionary.com/browse/monday-morning-quarterback) how things should have been done. :lol:


Oh! Yes, I'll accept the invitation to the BBQ, thanks! :wave: I'll even bring cheese dip! ;)

Hey, if there were a way to have a long-distance BBQ, I'd invite ALL of you! :wave:

And who are you kidding? You're such a huge Cindy fan that you wouldn't bring the cheese dip! At least Lorimar would bring the rice pudding! :lol:

Oooh a BBQ! Nice. Hope you all maintained at least 6 feet apart though ;)

That's why it was a small BBQ: only family. I have no desire to catch the plague.

That's why it was a small BBQ: only family. I have no desire to catch the plague.

Haha agreed! Stay healthy my friend! :)

I think there's a difference, though: in one case, we have a man who has never been a parent and who previously only worked at a boys' school. He's decided he's going to go up to Sue Ann's room and lay down the law by ordering her to eat. Mrs. Garrett knows how wrong he is, and how damaging that could be to her. We have the show itself telling us that he's mistaken to try to solve the issue himself: he's never been in her position before.

In the other, we have a man who has watched this show and others Monday Morning quarterbacking (https://www.dictionary.com/browse/monday-morning-quarterback) how things should have been done. :lol:

I was just remarking on the similarity. Both situations have men sticking their male noses where they shouldn't be because they don't have the experience of having been teenage girls.

I think someone referred to the adult male critics slamming a show for teenage girls as a generality (it may have even been in Charlotte's book).

Haha agreed! Stay healthy my friend! :)

You too! :wave:

So did you generally make most of the food?

So did you generally make most of the food?

Yep.

Yep.

Burgers and hotdogs?

Burgers and hotdogs?

Just burgers and potato salad and macaroni salad and chips and soda. It's officially summer here, now (at least academically), so it's officially the BBQ season! :cool:

Will you guys do anything? Or would you prefer to wait until the risk of coronavirus has maybe lessened a bit more?

Did someone report my post to Retro? Or did not show up? It was just a harmless joke all in good fun. :confused:

Did someone report my post to Retro? Or did not show up? It was just a harmless joke all in good fun. :confused:

I saw it, and even replied. I'm baffled as to why it's not there now. :confused:

I saw it, and even replied. I'm baffled as to why it's not there now. :confused:

Wow, that is extremely odd.

Wow, that is extremely odd.
It was the one with the door, right? I can't even imagine that was objectionable. Rest assured, I had nothing to do with whatever happened. I'm as baffled as you are. I didn't even notice it was gone until you mentioned it.

It was the one with the door, right? I can't even imagine that was objectionable. Rest assured, I had nothing to do with whatever happened. I'm as baffled as you are. I didn't even notice it was gone until you mentioned it.

Oh, no, I think that's still in another thread (I saw your reply this morning).

But here, when you confirmed you made the food, I said something like, "Good, we can just use you now for all the banquets and catering then. ;)"

Oh, no, I think that's still in another thread (I saw your reply this morning).

But here, when you confirmed you made the food, I said something like, "Good, we can just use you now for all the banquets and catering then. ;)"

Oh! No, I never even saw that one.

And I wouldn't mind doing some catering. I mean, I'd never be as good as Mrs. Garrett, but I could at least cater a better spread than the Core Four! :lol::eek:
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:lol:

I think there's a difference, though: in one case, we have a man who has never been a parent and who previously only worked at a boys' school. He's decided he's going to go up to Sue Ann's room and lay down the law by ordering her to eat. Mrs. Garrett knows how wrong he is, and how damaging that could be to her. We have the show itself telling us that he's mistaken to try to solve the issue himself: he's never been in her position before.

In the other, we have a man who has watched this show and others Monday Morning quarterbacking (https://www.dictionary.com/browse/monday-morning-quarterback) how things should have been done. :lol:



Hey, if there were a way to have a long-distance BBQ, I'd invite ALL of you! :wave:

And who are you kidding? You're such a huge Cindy fan that you wouldn't bring the cheese dip! At least Lorimar would bring the rice pudding! :lol:


When did MR BRADLEY worked for a 'boy's school?' (Was it ever mentioned in the series?):confused::confused::confused:

When did MR BRADLEY worked for a 'boy's school?' (Was it ever mentioned in the series?):confused::confused::confused:

Yes, in one episode is completely exasperated and laments, "Oh, why did I leave that boys' school?? There, it was just, 'turn 'em loose!' "

It's possible he had been at Bates Academy before coming to Eastland, but the school isn't named, so it could have been there or elsewhere.

When did MR BRADLEY worked for a 'boy's school?' (Was it ever mentioned in the series?):confused::confused::confused:

In one of the episodes, Bradley indicates he wishes he'd never left that boys' school. Couldn't tell you which episode right now, but others here might.

In one of the episodes, Bradley indicates he wishes he'd never left that boys' school. Couldn't tell you which episode right now, but others here might.

Jinx! :lol:

I didn't know the episode either, but it's came to me---"The Facts of Love", a.k.a. "SEX Education"! :eek:

He's exasperated over Blair being out with Steve, who has a "love van", lol (though he doesn't actually call it that).

:lol:

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Haha, cheers!

:cheers:

(but you can have my half, 'cause I don't really drink Cokes* anymore, lol)

*(I'm from the region where we collectively call soft drinks "Cokes", lol)

Yeah, I had a friend from Texas who did the same thing. I started out life calling it "pop", but had to switch to "soda" to be understood. Nobody calls it "pop", here, and they look at you funny if you do.

Jinx! :lol:

I didn't know the episode either, but it's came to me---"The Facts of Love", a.k.a. "SEX Education"! :eek:

He's exasperated over Blair being out with Steve, who has a "love van", lol (though he doesn't actually call it that).

Thanks. I couldn't remember the exact ep. in S1, and didn't want to sift through videos looking.

Thanks. I couldn't remember the exact ep. in S1, and didn't want to sift through videos looking.

The word "sifter" was said 3 times in 1 episode of "Mama's Family". :)

There was some inconsistency of Mr. Bradley's past in the first season. One episode had him coming from a boys boarding school. Another episode had him coming from a public school.

There was some inconsistency of Mr. Bradley's past in the first season. One episode had him coming from a boys boarding school. Another episode had him coming from a public school.

What was the public school reference? Maybe he did both.

Haha, cheers!

:cheers:

(but you can have my half, 'cause I don't really drink Cokes* anymore, lol)

*(I'm from the region where we collectively call soft drinks "Cokes", lol)

Really? So do you just say "I want a coke?"
Yeah, I had a friend from Texas who did the same thing. I started out life calling it "pop", but had to switch to "soda" to be understood. Nobody calls it "pop", here, and they look at you funny if you do.
I'm from the soda region too! Soda buddies forever! :cheers:

Really? So do you just say "I want a coke?"

"Who's gonna bring cokes?" "Are there any cokes?" "I'll bring some cokes."

Yup! Or, "did" rather---I pretty much don't drink "cokes" anymore, so there's not really much reason for me to say it now. :lol:


I'm from the soda region too! Soda buddies forever! :cheers:

"Soda buddies forever"!! :rofl:

And I definitely don't be anybody's "coke buddy"! :eek:

;)

And I definitely don't be anybody's "coke buddy"! :eek:

;)

:eek: Maybe Blair's ex would though ;) I forget his name :lol:

Oh! No, I never even saw that one.

And I wouldn't mind doing some catering. I mean, I'd never be as good as Mrs. Garrett, but I could at least cater a better spread than the Core Four! :lol::eek:
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Did you bring any cheese dip?

Really? So do you just say "I want a coke?"

I'm from the soda region too! Soda buddies forever! :cheers:
RIGHT! Soda-pals to the end! :cheers:
:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Did you bring any cheese dip?

Even if I made cheese dip, I'd forget it in the kitchen. :lol: