Since that character was always made fun of and laughed at like she was so unattractive. The girl who played Hotsie was unattractive and would have fit that Judy Borden character a lot better. Especially since all the sweathoggs acted like she was so unattractive.


the girl who played Judy was a hottie and should have definitely been the Hotsie Totsie character:):):):)

Since that character was always made fun of and laughed at like she was so unattractive. The girl who played Hotsie was unattractive and would have fit that Judy Borden character a lot better. Especially since all the sweathoggs acted like she was so unattractive.


the girl who played Judy was a hottie and should have definitely been the Hotsie Totsie character:):):):)

I agree that Judy was prettier than Hotsie ! ;)However the actress that played Hotsie Totsie had a more ;" bad girl, tramppy " look about her and Judy had a " sweet good girl" look. I don't think she would have played a good Hotsie Totsie type , and the other girl wouldn't seem like a believable smart nerdy girl type ! I think they casted them right ! ;)

I agree that Judy was prettier than Hotsie ! ;)However the actress that played Hotsie Totsie had a more ;" bad girl, tramppy " look about her and Judy had a " sweet good girl" look. I don't think she would have played a good Hotsie Totsie type , and the other girl wouldn't seem like a believable smart nerdy girl type ! I think they casted them right ! ;)

No they would have made the who played Judy dress trampy like that so she could be hot and trashy. The one who actually played her was unattractive and trashy:lol:

No they would have made the who played Judy dress trampy like that so she could be hot and trashy. The one who actually played her was unattractive and trashy:lol:


I just can't picture cute little Judy looking trashy !! :)

I agree that Judy was prettier than Hotsie ! ;)

You’re just mad she makes out with Michael in that movie.

You’re just mad she makes out with Michael in that movie.

Not only makes out , loses her virginity to him !! :D


The actress that plays Hotsie Totsie was in a movie with Michael Lembeck ( my crush Max from One day at a time) ! :)She played a tramp in that movie too! That is what Opus and I are referring to in our posts! ;)

Not only makes out , loses her virginity to him !! :D


Even better. More reason to hate her :wave:

Even better. More reasons to hate her :wave:

Or pretend to be her friend , and find out some personal stuff about him !! :happyface:D

Judy Borden I thought her name for the show was "Judy Cohen." Maybe I'm wrong.

I thought her name for the show was "Judy Cohen." Maybe I'm wrong.

That was a character from Good Times from the 4th season called the Judy Cohen Story

That was a character from Good Times from the 4th season called the Judy Cohen Story

Oh, right, that's the chubby red-headed girl that JJ was managing!

OOOOPS!

Oh, right, that's the chubby red-headed girl that JJ was managing!

OOOOPS!

The Sweathoggs was acting like she was Judy Cohen:lol::lol:

Oh, right, that's the chubby red-headed girl that JJ was managing!

OOOOPS!

Yeah, Judy Cohen from Good Times could have no way played bad girl Hotsie Totsie on Kotter ! No body would have wanted to do her !! :lol:

Yeah, Judy Cohen from Good Times could have no way played bad girl Hotsie Totsie on Kotter ! No body would have wanted to do her !! :lol:

OR JUDY BORDEN:lol::lol:

OR JUDY BORDEN:lol::lol:

Isn't there an episode where Barbarino & Judy become a romantic pair?

The Sweathoggs was acting like she was Judy Cohen:lol::lol:

I think the Sweathogs made fun of Judy cause they knew she wouldn't he with any of them! She was smarter than them and a good girl ! So they probably did find her cute but pretended they didn't to keep their pride ! If they flirted with her she probably would turn them down, want a boy who was more her intellectual equal and a good boy she could take home to meet her parents ! ;)

I think the Sweathogs made fun of Judy cause they knew she wouldn't he with any of them! She was smarter than them and a good girl ! So they probably did find her cute but pretended they didn't to keep their pride ! If they flirted with her she probably would turn them down, want a boy who was more her intellectual equal and a good boy she could take home to meet her parents ! ;)

she asked Freddie, Epstein and Arnold to the Sadie Hawkins dance and they acted like she was a mud duck and ran away:lol:

Isn't there an episode where Barbarino & Judy become a romantic pair?

Yep!! She tutored him and they bickered and insulted each other , but than they ended up falling for each other !:) But the other sweathogs made fun ! :( And it ended up not working out cause they were from two different worlds! :(

she asked Freddie, Epstein and Arnold to the Sadie Hawkins dance and they acted like she was a mud duck and ran away:lol:


They probably figured they couldn't " get lucky " with her after the dance like they could with a girl like Hotsie Totsie ! :cool:

Judy has such a repulsive voice, I wouldn't want to be with someone who sounded like her. Debralee Scott was very attractive, it is too bad she left for Mary Hartman and couldn't continue with her Kotter role.

Judy has such a repulsive voice, I wouldn't want to be with someone who sounded like her. Debralee Scott was very attractive, it is too bad she left for Mary Hartman and couldn't continue with her Kotter role.



Oh yeah!! She was Cathy Shumway , Mary's Sister on Mary Hartman!;) And she also dated the love of my life , Michael Lembeck / Clete Meizenheimer on there too , along with lots of other men on Mary Hartman , Debralee Scott always seems to play a bad girl! :):D

Judy's voice was very put on / exaggerated for her role as a Brooklyn girl on Welcome back Kotter ! ;) Although her family / The Lembeck's were originally from Brooklyn ! Her and her Brother ( my crush Michael Lembeck ) pretty much grew up in LA !;) I saw Helaine ( Judy ) on Match game and her voice wasn't nearly as Brooklyn - ish as Judy's !! ;)

Oh yeah!! She was Cathy Shumway , Mary's Sister on Mary Hartman!;) And she also dated the love of my life , Michael Lembeck / Clete Meizenheimer on there too , along with lots of other men on Mary Hartman , Debralee Scott always seems to play a bad girl! :):D

Judy's voice was very put on / exaggerated for her role as a Brooklyn girl on Welcome back Kotter ! ;) Although her family / The Lembeck's were originally from Brooklyn ! Her and her Brother ( my crush Michael Lembeck ) pretty much grew up in LA !;) I saw Helaine ( Judy ) on Match game and her voice wasn't nearly as Brooklyn - ish as Judy's !! ;)

Just found out that Judy is only in 13 eps out of 95:(

Oh yeah!! She was Cathy Shumway , Mary's Sister on Mary Hartman!;) And she also dated the love of my life , Michael Lembeck / Clete Meizenheimer on there too , along with lots of other men on Mary Hartman , Debralee Scott always seems to play a bad girl! :):D

Judy's voice was very put on / exaggerated for her role as a Brooklyn girl on Welcome back Kotter ! ;) Although her family / The Lembeck's were originally from Brooklyn ! Her and her Brother ( my crush Michael Lembeck ) pretty much grew up in LA !;) I saw Helaine ( Judy ) on Match game and her voice wasn't nearly as Brooklyn - ish as Judy's !! ;)

I saw her on Match Game and her voice was more normal. She was very pretty and still is.

I saw her on Match Game and her voice was more normal. She was very pretty and still is.

My retro crush:wave: